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Mike Flynn Offers to Testify in Exchange for Immunity

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-offers-to-testify-in-exchange-for-immunity-1490912959

Former national security adviser tells FBI, the House and Senate intelligence committees he’s willing to be interviewed in exchange for deal, officials say

By
SHANE HARRIS,
CAROL E. LEE and
JULIAN E. BARNES
Updated March 30, 2017 9:00 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON—Mike Flynn, President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, has told the Federal Bureau of Investigation and congressional officials investigating the Trump campaign’s potential ties to Russia that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution, according to officials with knowledge of the matter.

As an adviser to Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign, and later one of Mr. Trump’s top aides in the White House, Mr. Flynn was privy to some of the most sensitive foreign-policy deliberations of the new administration and was directly involved in discussions about the possible lifting of sanctions on Russia imposed by the Obama administration.

He has made the offer to the FBI and the House and Senate intelligence committees through his lawyer but has so far found no takers, the officials said.

Mr. Flynn’s attorney, Robert Kelner, wouldn’t comment on details of his discussions involving Mr. Flynn, but noted he is a decorated Army veteran with a lifetime of public service

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“General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit,” Mr. Kelner said.

It wasn’t clear if Mr. Flynn had offered to talk about specific aspects of his time working for Mr. Trump, but the fact that he was seeking immunity suggested Mr. Flynn feels he may be in legal jeopardy following his brief stint as the national security adviser, one official said.

Representatives for the FBI and Senate Intelligence Committee declined to comment. Officials with the House Intelligence Committee didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

Mr. Flynn was forced to resign after acknowledging that he misled White House officials about the nature of his phone conversations with ...ambassador to the U.S. during the presidential transition.

Mr. Flynn’s communications with the Russian ambassador, Sergei Kislyak, have been...by the FBI, which is examining whether Trump campaign personnel colluded with Russian officials who are alleged to have interfered with the presidential election, according to current and former U.S. officials. Russia has denied the allegations.

Mr. Flynn also was paid tens of thousand... companies, including the state-sponsored media network RT, for speeches he made shortly before he became a formal adviser to Mr. Trump’s campaign, according to documents obtained by a congressional oversight committee.

At a House Intelligence Committee hearing last week, Democratic lawmakers requested a copy of the security-clearance form that Mr. Flynn was required to file before joining Mr. Trump in the White House, to see if he disclosed sources of foreign income.

And they have asked the Defense Department to investigate whether Mr. Flynn, a retired Army general, violated the Constitution’s emoluments clause by accepting money from RT, which U.S. intelligence officials say is part of a state-funded media apparatus, without authorization, according to a letter several Democratic lawmakers sent Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis in February.

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Democratic lawmakers are seeking a probe into Mike Flynn, saying he may have violated the U.S. Constitution's Emoluments Clause while a retired lieutenant general by accepting money from Russian network "RT." Photo: Win McNamee/Getty Images (Originally published Feb. 1, 2017)

Mr. Kelner, Mr. Flynn’s attorney, decried the “unfounded allegations, outrageous claims of treason” and other charges by lawmakers and media commentators.

“No reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch-hunt environment without assurances against unfair prosecution,” he said.

Congress and the executive branch have the power to grant immunity from prosecution in exchange for witness testimony or cooperation in an investigation. People granted immunity still can be prosecuted for perjury if they give false information.

Traditionally, investigators grant immunity when they believe a witness’s information is important to the investigation and might not be able to be obtained otherwise. During the investigation of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server, the FBI granted limited forms of immunity to some of her aides. Mrs. Clinton wasn’t charged in the matter.

A grant of immunity from Congress would require approval from two-thirds of the congressional committee requesting testimony or a majority vote in the full House or Senate. Congress would then need to notify the attorney general and get the approval of a district court judge.

Mr. Flynn, 58 years old, also has drawn questions about whether he properly disclosed aspects of his work after he left military service.

Earlier this month, Mr. Flynn filed registration forms acknowledging he had previously worked as a foreign agent on behalf of Turkish government interests. The Wall Street Journal reported that while serving as an adviser to the Trump campaign, Mr. Flynn met with top Turkish government ministers and discussed removing a Muslim cleric from the U.S. and taking him to Turkey, according to former Central Intelligence Agency Director James Woolsey, who attended, and others who were briefed on the meeting. The Turkish government has accused the cleric of being behind an attempted coup last year.

A spokesman for Mr. Flynn disputed the account, saying “at no time did Gen. Flynn discuss any illegal actions, nonjudicial physical removal or any other such activities.”

Mr. Flynn is one of at least four people associated with the Trump campaign who are part of a wide-ranging counterintelligence investigation by the FBI, according to the current and former U.S. officials.

The other three—former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and former Trump advisers Roger Stone and Carter Page—all have volunteered to speak to the House and Senate committees and haven’t asked for immunity from prosecution, according to the individuals, committee officials and representatives for the individuals.

—Aruna Viswanatha and Byron Tau contributed to this article.



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Reply #1 posted 03/31/17 5:55am

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not sure i or anyone can blame him... but I doubt there is anything illegal in any of this, it is a left wing ploy to pay back trump for winning.

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Reply #2 posted 03/31/17 6:20am

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Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

falloff x 1,000,000

This traitor said last year that anyone who got immuity was probably guilty of a crime. And now he's asking for immunity!

Throw that POS under the jail. That's my position.

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Reply #3 posted 03/31/17 6:33am

Ingela

Yeah I don't know how this will help get rid of Trump, but all the commie hating right wingers should be the ones with their loud angry mouths the happiest.

Us left wingers give things a chance to play out and the benefit of the doubt. So I'm chill till information shows I should feel otherwise.
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Reply #4 posted 03/31/17 6:40am

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RodeoSchro said:

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

falloff x 1,000,000

This traitor said last year that anyone who got immuity was probably guilty of a crime. And now he's asking for immunity!

Throw that POS under the jail. That's my position.

lol i am disappointed that you buy into any of this stuff

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Reply #5 posted 03/31/17 6:40am

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Ingela said:

Yeah I don't know how this will help get rid of Trump, but all the commie hating right wingers should be the ones with their loud angry mouths the happiest. Us left wingers give things a chance to play out and the benefit of the doubt. So I'm chill till information shows I should feel otherwise.

it is not going to happen, the only way trump leaves is of his own free will

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Reply #6 posted 03/31/17 6:41am

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Reply #1 shows how much koolaid has been consumed. Instantly spun into a "...left wing ploy to pay back trump for winning". Nothing steers the lemmings away from the cliff.

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #7 posted 03/31/17 6:44am

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purplepoppy said:

Reply #1 shows how much koolaid has been consumed. Instantly spun into a "...left wing ploy to pay back trump for winning". Nothing steers the lemmings away from the cliff.

really? you really think russia changed the course of the election? that they wanted trump over the feckless hillary? and it is the OP that is the kool aid... not my belief that there is nothing to any of this.

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #8 posted 03/31/17 6:47am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

purplepoppy said:

Reply #1 shows how much koolaid has been consumed. Instantly spun into a "...left wing ploy to pay back trump for winning". Nothing steers the lemmings away from the cliff.

really? you really think russia changed the course of the election? that they wanted trump over the feckless hillary? and it is the OP that is the kool aid... not my belief that there is nothing to any of this.

The OP posted a news story that is national and on every network - scandal!

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #9 posted 03/31/17 7:11am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

purplepoppy said:

Reply #1 shows how much koolaid has been consumed. Instantly spun into a "...left wing ploy to pay back trump for winning". Nothing steers the lemmings away from the cliff.

really? you really think russia changed the course of the election? that they wanted trump over the feckless hillary? and it is the OP that is the kool aid... not my belief that there is nothing to any of this.



It's been reported by multiple outlets that Putin hates Hillary Clinton. Putin's spokesman was on "Good Morning America" today and confirmed that Russia preferred Trump over Clinton. This is an indisputable fact.

So if you think Russia is our adversary, then the only conclusion you can reach is - Russia wanted Trump to win because they felt that with Trump in power, they would better be able to accomplish their goals.

If you think Russia's goals are in the United States' best interests, then of course you would see nothing of concern here.

But if you believe that what Russia wants in the world is at odds with what the United States wants, then you have to ask yourself if you're comfortable with Russia getting the candidate they wanted as president.

I would think that anyone who served in the United States Army would be nervous knowing that Russia got what they wanted.

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Reply #10 posted 03/31/17 7:13am

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purplepoppy said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

really? you really think russia changed the course of the election? that they wanted trump over the feckless hillary? and it is the OP that is the kool aid... not my belief that there is nothing to any of this.

The OP posted a news story that is national and on every network - scandal!

Exactly!

And this is stuff that the right always made the most noise about! Remember McCathyism?

But when it's about their own party it's just "hoopla"

Ah yes, typical right wing hipocrisy at it's glory. Possibly unsecure mails are un-american, but having been complicit with "the commies" to get at them. That's hoopla. Maybe even wholesome acording to this logic.

[Edited 3/31/17 7:23am]

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Reply #11 posted 03/31/17 7:41am

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purplepoppy said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

really? you really think russia changed the course of the election? that they wanted trump over the feckless hillary? and it is the OP that is the kool aid... not my belief that there is nothing to any of this.

The OP posted a news story that is national and on every network - scandal!

yeah I know. I am saying the media is in on the game.

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Reply #12 posted 03/31/17 7:47am

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RodeoSchro said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

really? you really think russia changed the course of the election? that they wanted trump over the feckless hillary? and it is the OP that is the kool aid... not my belief that there is nothing to any of this.



It's been reported by multiple outlets that Putin hates Hillary Clinton. Putin's spokesman was on "Good Morning America" today and confirmed that Russia preferred Trump over Clinton. This is an indisputable fact.


that is what they said... and you believe them? you just take them at their word? do you always take them at their word or only when it fits into your personal political narrative?

So if you think Russia is our adversary, then the only conclusion you can reach is - Russia wanted Trump to win because they felt that with Trump in power, they would better be able to accomplish their goals.


again you seem to just assume they really meant it when they said they wanted her to lose.

If you think Russia's goals are in the United States' best interests, then of course you would see nothing of concern here.

I do not.


But if you believe that what Russia wants in the world is at odds with what the United States wants, then you have to ask yourself if you're comfortable with Russia getting the candidate they wanted as president.

I think you got played by Russia who GOAL is just as likely as not was to cause problems so we are distracted and all in a twist....


I would think that anyone who served in the United States Army would be nervous knowing that Russia got what they wanted.


as someone that did serve I do not simply accept it when they said they preferred trump over hillary. to me that seems like a good line to get people in a twist.

No one is coming for your abortion: they just want common-sense abortion regulations: background checks, waiting periods, lifetime limits, take a class, and a small tax.
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Reply #13 posted 03/31/17 7:49am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

purplepoppy said:

The OP posted a news story that is national and on every network - scandal!

yeah I know. I am saying the media is in on the game.



..and what game is that? Flynn himself has publicly stated that anyone who seeks immunity "probably commited a crime"

So he's stating he probably commited a crime.

Another question, how would you react if this was on Hillary or Obama. lol

The same way? umm yeah right.

lol

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Reply #14 posted 03/31/17 7:53am

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Ingela said:

purplepoppy said:

The OP posted a news story that is national and on every network - scandal!

Exactly!

And this is stuff that the right always made the most noise about! Remember McCathyism?

But when it's about their own party it's just "hoopla"

Ah yes, typical right wing hipocrisy at it's glory. Possibly unsecure mails are un-american, but having been complicit with "the commies" to get at them. That's hoopla. Maybe even wholesome acording to this logic.

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in this case, there is zero hypocrisy from me. I simply believe that there was no illegal contact between the trump campaign and Russia and I certainly do not believe that Russia was able to alter the voting machines to give trump the win.

it is funny how when the DNC emails were hacked (and some say it was russia some say it was not so there is no reason to accept either story) that was a non-issue because they were stolen. When hillaruy was found to have mishandled highly classified material and was found to have deleted 1000s of work related emails that she KNEW was the subject of an investigation that was a non-issue too! But now this is the new watergate? that smells more like hypocrisy to me.

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Reply #15 posted 03/31/17 7:59am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Ingela said:

Exactly!

And this is stuff that the right always made the most noise about! Remember McCathyism?

But when it's about their own party it's just "hoopla"

Ah yes, typical right wing hipocrisy at it's glory. Possibly unsecure mails are un-american, but having been complicit with "the commies" to get at them. That's hoopla. Maybe even wholesome acording to this logic.

[Edited 3/31/17 7:23am]

in this case, there is zero hypocrisy from me. I simply believe that there was no illegal contact between the trump campaign and Russia and I certainly do not believe that Russia was able to alter the voting machines to give trump the win.

it is funny how when the DNC emails were hacked (and some say it was russia some say it was not so there is no reason to accept either story) that was a non-issue because they were stolen. When hillaruy was found to have mishandled highly classified material and was found to have deleted 1000s of work related emails that she KNEW was the subject of an investigation that was a non-issue too! But now this is the new watergate? that smells more like hypocrisy to me.

lol

No, you're turning a blind eye to your blatant hipocrisy. or rather both eyes.

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Reply #16 posted 03/31/17 8:01am

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No, fuck that. I want heads to roll.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #17 posted 03/31/17 8:07am

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Ingela said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

in this case, there is zero hypocrisy from me. I simply believe that there was no illegal contact between the trump campaign and Russia and I certainly do not believe that Russia was able to alter the voting machines to give trump the win.

it is funny how when the DNC emails were hacked (and some say it was russia some say it was not so there is no reason to accept either story) that was a non-issue because they were stolen. When hillaruy was found to have mishandled highly classified material and was found to have deleted 1000s of work related emails that she KNEW was the subject of an investigation that was a non-issue too! But now this is the new watergate? that smells more like hypocrisy to me.

lol

No, you're turning a blind eye to your blatant hipocrisy. or rather both eyes.

I simply do not believe that anything Russia said can or should be accepted as the truth. I do not believe there was any illegal contact or deals made. I do believe that this testimony will not reveal anything.

some are all gitty thinking this is something and I just do not think is.

if there is even any evidence I will be the fist to say they need to use whatever laws to push for whatever form of justice is available.

As to hypocrisy? again remember hillary was found to have violated the law 1000s of times... and the FBI invented a defence for her. So when nothing comes of this...just remember I said it was all nothing.

And what law was broken?

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Reply #18 posted 03/31/17 8:09am

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She didn't violate any laws or she would be in jail. Do you have any ethics? Name something good you did lately? Tell us. No, feeding the birds doesnss't count.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #19 posted 03/31/17 8:13am

Ingela

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Ingela said:

lol

No, you're turning a blind eye to your blatant hipocrisy. or rather both eyes.

I simply do not believe that anything Russia said can or should be accepted as the truth. I do not believe there was any illegal contact or deals made. I do believe that this testimony will not reveal anything.

some are all gitty thinking this is something and I just do not think is.

if there is even any evidence I will be the fist to say they need to use whatever laws to push for whatever form of justice is available.

As to hypocrisy? again remember hillary was found to have violated the law 1000s of times... and the FBI invented a defence for her. So when nothing comes of this...just remember I said it was all nothing.

And what law was broken?

The hipocrisy is your double standard my friend. You are, as usual trying to distract because that's all you have.


Again, how would you, Rush, Hannity, Fox, The Drudge and trhe whole ball of morons have reacted in this was on Hillary or Obama?

A humoungous ginormous amount of hipocrisy by your cabal.

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2freaky4church1 said:

She didn't violate any laws or she would be in jail. Do you have any ethics? Name something good you did lately? Tell us. No, feeding the birds doesnss't count.

Comey said she did. she had deleted 1000s of emails that were work related and all of them were subject of a subpoena. He also said she had numerous classified documents on her emails (Both sent and received)

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Reply #21 posted 03/31/17 8:31am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



RodeoSchro said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:





really? you really think russia changed the course of the election? that they wanted trump over the feckless hillary? and it is the OP that is the kool aid... not my belief that there is nothing to any of this.





It's been reported by multiple outlets that Putin hates Hillary Clinton. Putin's spokesman was on "Good Morning America" today and confirmed that Russia preferred Trump over Clinton. This is an indisputable fact.


that is what they said... and you believe them? you just take them at their word? do you always take them at their word or only when it fits into your personal political narrative?

So if you think Russia is our adversary, then the only conclusion you can reach is - Russia wanted Trump to win because they felt that with Trump in power, they would better be able to accomplish their goals.


again you seem to just assume they really meant it when they said they wanted her to lose.

If you think Russia's goals are in the United States' best interests, then of course you would see nothing of concern here.

I do not.


But if you believe that what Russia wants in the world is at odds with what the United States wants, then you have to ask yourself if you're comfortable with Russia getting the candidate they wanted as president.

I think you got played by Russia who GOAL is just as likely as not was to cause problems so we are distracted and all in a twist....


I would think that anyone who served in the United States Army would be nervous knowing that Russia got what they wanted.


as someone that did serve I do not simply accept it when they said they preferred trump over hillary. to me that seems like a good line to get people in a twist.





This is what you call a "true believer"... no facts will sway them. It's like religion ... faith without proof. It's like those who still supported Nixon even after he resigned
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OnlyNDaUsa said:

RodeoSchro said:



It's been reported by multiple outlets that Putin hates Hillary Clinton. Putin's spokesman was on "Good Morning America" today and confirmed that Russia preferred Trump over Clinton. This is an indisputable fact.


that is what they said... and you believe them? you just take them at their word? do you always take them at their word or only when it fits into your personal political narrative?

So if you think Russia is our adversary, then the only conclusion you can reach is - Russia wanted Trump to win because they felt that with Trump in power, they would better be able to accomplish their goals.


again you seem to just assume they really meant it when they said they wanted her to lose.

If you think Russia's goals are in the United States' best interests, then of course you would see nothing of concern here.

I do not.


But if you believe that what Russia wants in the world is at odds with what the United States wants, then you have to ask yourself if you're comfortable with Russia getting the candidate they wanted as president.

I think you got played by Russia who GOAL is just as likely as not was to cause problems so we are distracted and all in a twist....


I would think that anyone who served in the United States Army would be nervous knowing that Russia got what they wanted.


as someone that did serve I do not simply accept it when they said they preferred trump over hillary. to me that seems like a good line to get people in a twist.



Considering that it's already been confirrmed that the Russian government hired over 1,000 trolls to spread fake news against only Hillary Clinton, then yeah - I believe them when they say they wanted Trump over Clinton.

Considering that their hackers got into both Clinton and Trump's email servers, but only sent Clinton's emails to wikileaks for publication and kept Trump's private, then yeah - I believe them when they say they wanted Trump over Clinton.

Considering that Trump is a putz whose entire campaign staff seems to have been employed at various times by Russians and those with Russian interests - and those people did their best to hide those affiliations, then yeah - I believe them when they say they wanted Trump over Clinton.

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Reply #23 posted 03/31/17 9:12am

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Still no actual solid proof Rodeo.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #24 posted 03/31/17 9:22am

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RodeoSchro said:

OnlyN


Considering that it's already been confirrmed that the Russian government hired over 1,000 trolls to spread fake news against only Hillary Clinton, then yeah - I believe them when they say they wanted Trump over Clinton.


yeah proved by whom?

Considering that their hackers got into both Clinton and Trump's email servers, but only sent Clinton's emails to wikileaks for publication and kept Trump's private, then yeah - I believe them when they say they wanted Trump over Clinton.

But Russia and Wikileaks said it was not the russians! see you do pick and choose what you belive when russia says something

Considering that Trump is a putz

well yeah yet he beat hillary and that is President Putz Mr!

whose entire campaign staff seems to have been employed at various times by Russians and those with Russian interests - and those people did their best to hide those affiliations, then yeah - I believe them when they say they wanted Trump over Clinton.


yeah and what law was broken?

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Reply #25 posted 03/31/17 9:34am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Still no actual solid proof Rodeo.



Sure there is. I posted a great article outlining all the evidence that showed the Russian government hired and controlled the guys who broke into Clinton's server.

I don't have to prove the Russians gave it to wikileaks. The mere fact the Russians broke into Clinton's server is all the proof you need.

The article I posted was in an earlier thread. If you didn't read it then, that's on you.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

RodeoSchro said:



Considering that their hackers got into both Clinton and Trump's email servers, but only sent Clinton's emails to wikileaks for publication and kept Trump's private, then yeah - I believe them when they say they wanted Trump over Clinton.

But Russia and Wikileaks said it was not the russians! see you do pick and choose what you belive when russia says something
"I simply do not believe that anything Russia said can or should be accepted as the truth."


^this is why to me you have no credibility. *think* about it.

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Reply #27 posted 03/31/17 9:39am

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Rodeo, read Glenn Greenwald.

This just in: Flynn will not get immunity! nice

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Reply #28 posted 03/31/17 9:41am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Rodeo, read Glenn Greenwald.

This just in: Flynn will not get immunity! nice

So if they have enough on him to nail his ass, then all he can do is plea?

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Reply #29 posted 03/31/17 9:45am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Rodeo, read Glenn Greenwald.

This just in: Flynn will not get immunity! nice

So if they have enough on him to nail his ass, then all he can do is plea?

So does this mean he won't spill the beans?

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