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Thread started 05/18/15 2:28pm

babynoz

Mom jailed in circumcision lawsuit.



This is insane. The mom initially agreed to the procedure in the divorce settlement, then changed her mind. I don't think she should be in jail though...wtf? eek

I was unsure which forum is the correct one since there are a number of news items here already, please move if necessary.

http://www.sun-sentinel.c...story.html

Mom in circumcision battle still jailed; hearing set for Monday

After two months in hiding, Heather Hironimus, the mother at the center of a bitter circumcision battle, was booked Thursday into Broward County Jail, records show.
By Kate Jacobson Sun Sentinel

Mom at center of circumcision fight remains in jail

A mother at the center of a circumcision battle with the boy's father is asking a federal judge to take steps to prevent the surgery from occurring while she is jail facing contempt of court charges.


Heather Hironimus' attorney filed an emergency motion for a restraining order on behalf of her son against the child's father on Friday. Hironimus had previously been eluding her arrest by staying at a domestic violence shelter for women with her son, 4 1/2. She was arrested on Thursday and booked into the Broward County Jail.

An emergency hearing to address the motion is scheduled on Monday in federal court.

In the court filing, Hironimus' lawyer Thomas Hunker said she presumes her son is with his father, Dennis Nebus. Hironimus filed a lawsuit in April against Nebus, stating that the circumcision of their son would be violation of their son's constitutional rights.

In the motion filed Friday, Hunker argued if Nebus circumcised the boy before the federal lawsuit ran its course, it would make the lawsuit meaningless.


Courts around the country have in the past denied one parent insisting on circumcising a son because it is irreversible and can be done at the choice of the son as an adult. I have never heard of a court insisting a boy be cut when one parent objects, whether the boy wanted one or not. This...


"The circumcision will permanently and irreversibly mutilate his genitals and the federal lawsuit will be rendered moot," the motion states.

The fight between Hironimus and Nebus began in 2013 after Nebus wanted a circumcision performed on their son.

When the couple split in 2012, they signed a "parenting plan" that would allow for the circumcision, but court records show Hironimus changed her mind and didn't want the procedure done.


In May 2014, Palm Beach County Circuit Court Jeffrey Gillen ruled Nebus should be allowed to circumcise his son and in March ordered Hironimus to hand him over.

Gillen signed a warrant for her arrest in March after she failed to appear for court. She was booked into the Broward County Jail and remained there without bond on Friday. She is expected to be extradited back to Palm Beach County, but it is unclear when.

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Reply #1 posted 05/19/15 3:56pm

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eek yikes, what a mess. maybe the child should decide the fate of his own penis, when/if possible

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Reply #2 posted 05/19/15 7:12pm

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Her ex seems like a real dick. I bet this is just the tip of the iceberg. The father needs to cut it out.
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Reply #3 posted 05/21/15 7:14am

babynoz

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Her ex seems like a real dick. I bet this is just the tip of the iceberg. The father needs to cut it out.



In the eyes of the court the mother agreed to the procedure which constitutes a valid contract. Mom is in comtempt as far as the court is concerned, that's all they are going to look at.

When it comes to medical procedures on persons who cannot consent such as babies, the law needs to be reformed, particularly since this is not a medically necessary procedure. The kid can decide for himself as an adult.

I'm going to post the other story where the couple split and the ex is fighting for custody of the woman's eggs. eek

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Reply #4 posted 05/21/15 12:41pm

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babynoz said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:


Her ex seems like a real dick. I bet this is just the tip of the iceberg. The father needs to cut it out.



In the eyes of the court the mother agreed to the procedure which constitutes a valid contract. Mom is in comtempt as far as the court is concerned, that's all they are going to look at.

When it comes to medical procedures on persons who cannot consent such as babies, the law needs to be reformed, particularly since this is not a medically necessary procedure. The kid can decide for himself as an adult.

I'm going to post the other story where the couple split and the ex is fighting for custody of the woman's eggs. eek



I was making penis jokes. However, the argument that the such a contract may not be enforceable as it includes a third party as well as other issues that could make it meaningless.
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Reply #5 posted 05/21/15 2:10pm

babynoz

OnlyNDaUsa said:

babynoz said:



In the eyes of the court the mother agreed to the procedure which constitutes a valid contract. Mom is in comtempt as far as the court is concerned, that's all they are going to look at.

When it comes to medical procedures on persons who cannot consent such as babies, the law needs to be reformed, particularly since this is not a medically necessary procedure. The kid can decide for himself as an adult.

I'm going to post the other story where the couple split and the ex is fighting for custody of the woman's eggs. eek

I was making penis jokes. However, the argument that the such a contract may not be enforceable as it includes a third party as well as other issues that could make it meaningless.



Ha? eek

They should have let the case go to federal court instead of locking the woman up.

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Reply #6 posted 05/21/15 3:59pm

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babynoz said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

babynoz said: I was making penis jokes. However, the argument that the such a contract may not be enforceable as it includes a third party as well as other issues that could make it meaningless.



Ha? eek

lol I never said it was a good or funny!


They should have let the case go to federal court instead of locking the woman up.

She was arested for not showing to court...but i guess i can see her issue.. if i had a son he would not be clipped! I hope she wins...

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Reply #7 posted 05/25/15 9:44pm

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babynoz said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Her ex seems like a real dick. I bet this is just the tip of the iceberg. The father needs to cut it out.



In the eyes of the court the mother agreed to the procedure which constitutes a valid contract. Mom is in comtempt as far as the court is concerned, that's all they are going to look at.

When it comes to medical procedures on persons who cannot consent such as babies, the law needs to be reformed, particularly since this is not a medically necessary procedure. The kid can decide for himself as an adult.

I'm going to post the other story where the couple split and the ex is fighting for custody of the woman's eggs. eek

Agreed. I don't believe in circumcision at all. There is no medical benfit. It's an ancient practice steeped in religious and culturall tradition. If a man wants to have the procedure done, then let him make the decision as an adult when he understands the implications. Parents should not be making the decision at birth. The US is the only country in the world that practices routine circumcisions for nonreligious reasons. It needs to stop.

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Reply #8 posted 05/28/15 7:01am

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Im cut....i like it....I would cut any kids I had.
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