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Anzac Day Australia/New Zealand 4.25.2015

recreating from a removed thread on this rememberance day for Australia

this is not a race/religion/politics baiting thread

Sharing information about this countries day is what it's all about

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Anzac Day 2015 at the Australian War Memorial

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Reply #1 posted 04/22/15 5:32am

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So this is the what the movie Gallipoli was about.
I saw this back in the early 90s

Gallipoli(1981)

Two Australian sprinters face the brutal realities of war when they are sent to fight in the Gallipoli campaign in Turkey during World War I.

Director: Peter Weir

Writers: Peter Weir (story), David Williamson (screenplay), 1 more credit »

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Saturday 25 April 2015

Anzac Day goes beyond the anniversary of the landing on Gallipoli in 1915. It is the day on which we remember Australians who served and died in all wars, conflicts, and peacekeeping operations. The spirit of Anzac, with its human qualities of courage, mateship, and sacrifice, continues to have meaning and relevance for our sense of national identity.

In Canberra, the Memorial, in close cooperation with the Returned and Services League of Australia ACT, hosts the:

The Aboriginal and Torres...e Ceremony will be held after the Anzac Day Dawn Service at the Aboriginal Memorial plaque on the side of Mount Ainslie.

For more information about the Veterans’ March in 2015, please contact the ACT Branch of the Returne... Australia.

To find out what is happening at Gallipoli on 25 April 2015, please go to the Department of Veterans’...ipoli 2015 website.

History and tradition

Ceremonies

Photographs of Anzac Day ceremonies in Canberra

Photographs taken on 25 April 1915

  • A Lifeboat carrying unidentified men of the 1st Divisional Signal Company, 25 April 1915. A02781
  • Boats carrying troops to shore, Anzac Cove, 25 April 1915. A01000
  • Field 6th Battalion soldiers leaving the transport ship HMT Galeka, 25 April 1915. C01419
  • Members of 13th Battalion, AIF, occupying Quinn's Post above Anzac Cove, 25 April 1915. A05534
  • he position covering Quinn's Post and the Chessboard at Gallipoli, 25 April 1915. J05582
  • Soldiers of the 1st Battalion, Australian Imperial Force, awaiting orders, 25 April 1915. P01016.004
  • Australian troops going into action, Plugge's Plateau, 25 April 1915. G00907
  • The first field dressing station of the 7th Battalion, AIF, 25 April 1915. H15233

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Reply #4 posted 04/22/15 11:59am

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ANZAC stands for Australia and New Zealand Army Corps. Anzac Day is a joint commemoration for both countries. Lest we forget.
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Reply #5 posted 04/22/15 12:05pm

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Gallipoli - Memorial at Anzac Cove by Ataturk.
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives…
You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours…
You, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace, after having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Ataturk, 1934


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To this day I´ll never fully understand how young men from such far away countries such as New Zealand and Australia would go all the way up to Turkey to invade our country and fight against my ancestors and risk their lives or lose their limbs and become cannon fodder for the British Empire.

I also find it fascinating how that campaign created a very weird bond between the ANZAC´s descendants and today´s Turks. I spoke with expats from New Zealand who live in Turkey and it is, in my opinion, one of the strangest post war phenomena I know of.

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Russell Crowe was on Turkish TV the other day and spoke about his new movie that he directed. It´s about the battle of Gallipoli and it is called "The Water Diviner" and he shot it in Turkey, starring himself and two very famous and popular Turkish actors, one of Kurdish descent, and Russell was very down to earth and likeable on that show. It also helped that he´s very popular in Turkey.

I expected the show to be a disaster because of Russell Crowe´s bad reputation regarding interviews but I must admit I became a fan after seeing him on that show. Never seen him behave like that before or after. He was very humble and nice.

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The grand grandfather of a friend of mine fought there and saw Mustafa Kemal in person.

So many people died, and it was to this day the greatest loss for Australia and New Zealand when you consider the losses per capita per country, and of course a tragedy for the Turks (some of them were in their early teens, 14 or 15 years old without proper shoes), and a huge loss for the British , too. It was a disaster for all parties involved.

edit: Some pictures of the Ottoman troops since most of the pictures on this thread only show the ANZACs.

[Edited 4/22/15 12:35pm]

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"sharing information about this countries (sic) day " or "These countries´ day? " as in Turkey , New Zealand and Australia ?

I appreciate your "this is no race/religion/politics baiting " comment but I bet it will turn exactly into that sooner or later. And posting pictures of only Australian soldiers who look like they were having a picnic while omitting the New Zealanders and Turks does not really help matters but I´m sure you had good intentions when you created this thread. Let´s just hope that it stays positive.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

KoolEaze said:

"sharing information about this countries (sic) day " or "These countries´ day? " as in Turkey , New Zealand and Australia ?

I appreciate your "this is no race/religion/politics baiting " comment but I bet it will turn exactly into that sooner or later. And posting pictures of only Australian soldiers who look like they were having a picnic while omitting the New Zealanders and Turks does not really help matters but I´m sure you had good intentions when you created this thread. Let´s just hope that it stays positive.

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Reply #9 posted 04/22/15 4:03pm

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Typical Plan of an Anzac Day service here in New Zealand.

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6.00am on wards - Dawn services at War Memorials up and down the country. This coincides with the fact that the Anzac landings took place at dawn on April 25 1915. Sunrsie in NZ ranges from 6.45am at Gisborne to 7.25 am in Invercargill, so often the sun comes up during the 1 to 2 hour long service.

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Services start with the Last Post a tune played on the Bugle as this was played at Gallipoli.

Ministers often read passages from the Bible and do a reading of some war time dispatches.

People will sing loud often the lines "We will remember them as the sun goes down".

Wreaths are placed on the war memorials and a minutes silence is observed by all

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Surviving war veterans will wear uniforms or suits with their medals attached. Left hand side for veterans, right hand side for descendants of veterans. Men and women from all conflicts are included, the oldest now are World War 2 veterans in their 80s and 90s. The last Gallipoli veteran died in 2000 aged 100. Other veterans include Korean War, J Force (1945 -1950s), Vietnam, Malayan Conflict (1948 -1960), Iraq Gulf War and Afghanistan/Iraq (2002 - now). Soon they will be joined by Veterans of the ISIS war 2015 -.

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Current service personnel and families can also attend along with the general public. Everyone wears poppies which are often artificial and signify the poppies of Flanders field where much blood was shed. Mianly as the landings took place in the Turkish spring, and April 25 is mid autumn here, meaning they are not in bloom and it is usually cold and dark by this time of year in New Zealand at least. Often heavy clothes are worn to dawn services as temperatures are usually between 0c and 15c up and down the country.

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Later on around 10 - 11am, there is a parade of veterans, military personnel and descendants through most cities and towns in NZ that have memorials.

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At 11am RSA's (Returned Servicemens Association) open, these are bars/bistros with pool tables and gaming machines like taverns. Tea and Anzac Biscuits (Mostly oatmeal cookies) are served with coffee and navy rum for the soldiers. Usually a few rounds will be drunk for the boys.

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All shops and businesses except essential services (Petrol, hospitals, dairies) must be closed until 1pm on Anzac day and if it falls on a weekend, the next Monday is a Public Holiday. This year it is a Saturday and the date of Anza cDay is not movable. Ceremonies are observed on the day, but the Public Holiday is moved to Monday.

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Hope that clears it up for you all.

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There is now a spirit of reconciliation and forgiveness amongst the ANZACS and the Turkish army, and joint remembrances at Gallipoli happen each April 25.

[Edited 4/22/15 16:05pm]

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Reply #10 posted 04/23/15 1:33am

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I confess to not knowing a lot about Anzac Day but I found a couple of the pictures really moving. The one copied below particularly - these boys look so young!!!


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Reply #11 posted 04/23/15 1:34am

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This one too - the words are really moving.


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Reply #12 posted 04/23/15 1:40am

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Adorecream said:

Typical Plan of an Anzac Day service here in New Zealand.

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6.00am on wards - Dawn services at War Memorials up and down the country. This coincides with the fact that the Anzac landings took place at dawn on April 25 1915. Sunrsie in NZ ranges from 6.45am at Gisborne to 7.25 am in Invercargill, so often the sun comes up during the 1 to 2 hour long service.

.

Services start with the Last Post a tune played on the Bugle as this was played at Gallipoli.

Ministers often read passages from the Bible and do a reading of some war time dispatches.

People will sing loud often the lines "We will remember them as the sun goes down".

Wreaths are placed on the war memorials and a minutes silence is observed by all

.

Surviving war veterans will wear uniforms or suits with their medals attached. Left hand side for veterans, right hand side for descendants of veterans. Men and women from all conflicts are included, the oldest now are World War 2 veterans in their 80s and 90s. The last Gallipoli veteran died in 2000 aged 100. Other veterans include Korean War, J Force (1945 -1950s), Vietnam, Malayan Conflict (1948 -1960), Iraq Gulf War and Afghanistan/Iraq (2002 - now). Soon they will be joined by Veterans of the ISIS war 2015 -.

.

Current service personnel and families can also attend along with the general public. Everyone wears poppies which are often artificial and signify the poppies of Flanders field where much blood was shed. Mianly as the landings took place in the Turkish spring, and April 25 is mid autumn here, meaning they are not in bloom and it is usually cold and dark by this time of year in New Zealand at least. Often heavy clothes are worn to dawn services as temperatures are usually between 0c and 15c up and down the country.

.

Later on around 10 - 11am, there is a parade of veterans, military personnel and descendants through most cities and towns in NZ that have memorials.

.

At 11am RSA's (Returned Servicemens Association) open, these are bars/bistros with pool tables and gaming machines like taverns. Tea and Anzac Biscuits (Mostly oatmeal cookies) are served with coffee and navy rum for the soldiers. Usually a few rounds will be drunk for the boys.

.

All shops and businesses except essential services (Petrol, hospitals, dairies) must be closed until 1pm on Anzac day and if it falls on a weekend, the next Monday is a Public Holiday. This year it is a Saturday and the date of Anza cDay is not movable. Ceremonies are observed on the day, but the Public Holiday is moved to Monday.

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Hope that clears it up for you all.

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There is now a spirit of reconciliation and forgiveness amongst the ANZACS and the Turkish army, and joint remembrances at Gallipoli happen each April 25.

[Edited 4/22/15 16:05pm]

We have Anzac biscuits here and I didn't realise the significance. I've learned a lot from this thread (my knowledge of history is appalling). The day itself sounds much like poppy day here (Nov 11) except that our shops etc... stay open and at 11am everyone is supposed to observe a 2 minute silence (though many don't).

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