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Reply #90 posted 04/28/15 2:42pm

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V10LETBLUES said:

^ Pointing out other fools is not a argument. Baltimore seems be be lacking both MEN and brains. I would love to be proven wrong. All this shows is why the community is in the state its in. It shows a community needing a zookeeper instead of cops. MEN need to show up and be MEN. I see organizers can have people show up, can they also be more vocal for having them show dignity. [Edited 4/28/15 13:52pm]

My point is people in general don't consider these riots to be a commentary on the problems of white youth or the white community. Rioting in black communities is so infrequent and is usually the result of a lifetime of pent up anger. Rioting and looting over sporting events happens almost every year.

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Reply #91 posted 04/28/15 3:00pm

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Pointing out other fools is not a argument. Baltimore seems be be lacking both MEN and brains. I would love to be proven wrong. All this shows is why the community is in the state its in. It shows a community needing a zookeeper instead of cops. MEN need to show up and be MEN. I see organizers can have people show up, can they also be more vocal for having them show dignity.
[Edited 4/28/15 13:52pm]

It doesn't show a community needing an animal trainer. It shows a community frustrated and tired of being dehumanized, and many are acting those frustrations out. Again no one advocates violnce. Had elected officials in Baltimore did their job, you would not see this happening. Baltimore's local government is brokem.

So far the protests are going well, and I am sure some folks will not be happy about that.
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Reply #92 posted 04/28/15 3:07pm

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V10LETBLUES said:


^ Pointing out other fools is not a argument. Baltimore seems be be lacking both MEN and brains. I would love to be proven wrong. All this shows is why the community is in the state its in. It shows a community needing a zookeeper instead of cops. MEN need to show up and be MEN. I see organizers can have people show up, can they also be more vocal for having them show dignity. [Edited 4/28/15 13:52pm]

My point is people in general don't consider these riots to be a commentary on the problems of white youth or the white community. Rioting in black communities is so infrequent and is usually the result of a lifetime of pent up anger. Rioting and looting over sporting events happens almost every year.


The thing is the cameras are never around to show Black community members marching with elected officials and clergymen on any regular day against crimes in their community. The cameras wouldn'tt show the hard work and positive moves of those communities.

Nor are the loudest, most negative critics there, who only open their big mouths of nothing, when troublemakers interrupt peaceful protests, and they use that situation to spew their ingrained prejudices, and paint the whole community as thugs.
[Edited 4/28/15 15:08pm]
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Reply #93 posted 04/28/15 3:09pm

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2elijah said:

V10LETBLUES said:
^ Pointing out other fools is not a argument. Baltimore seems be be lacking both MEN and brains. I would love to be proven wrong. All this shows is why the community is in the state its in. It shows a community needing a zookeeper instead of cops. MEN need to show up and be MEN. I see organizers can have people show up, can they also be more vocal for having them show dignity. [Edited 4/28/15 13:52pm]
It doesn't show a community needing an animal trainer. It shows a community frustrated and tired of being dehumanized, and many are acting those frustrations out. Again no one advocates violnce. Had elected officials in Baltimore did their job, you would not see this happening. Baltimore's local government is brokem. So far the protests are going well, and I am sure some folks will not be happy about that.

Decent society is on the same side. Seeking to end police brutality is what you and me and all of decent society wants. There is though a way that is wrong. And there will always be an element that seeks to harm, and thats of all races. We need to focus on doing good, not pointing out how how others are. There will alwasy be things in society that need betterment, and going about it foolishly is not helpful meeting that objective.


We need to be a source of strengh for the decent, not give in base elements.

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Reply #94 posted 04/28/15 3:14pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

I am no longer going to advocate complete non violence. The system has to be non violent, first.



Jamal Bryant, the pastor, was all over the news. That guy really has his shit together. He is powerful.



The Bloods and Crips signed a peace treaty! wow. The Nation of Islam is in the mix too. Whitey shakin. lol


If the Blood and Crips actually stay true to that peace treaty, and work to protect one another from violence, they will be one powerful force. Let's see how that last.

Believe it or not, the Nation of Islam will be the ones to be able to calm some of the protesters there. The protests are going well today. I am sure some of the biggest, most negative critics regarding the Baltimore protesters will not be happy about that.
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Reply #95 posted 04/28/15 3:19pm

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2elijah said:


V10LETBLUES said:
^ Pointing out other fools is not a argument. Baltimore seems be be lacking both MEN and brains. I would love to be proven wrong. All this shows is why the community is in the state its in. It shows a community needing a zookeeper instead of cops. MEN need to show up and be MEN. I see organizers can have people show up, can they also be more vocal for having them show dignity. [Edited 4/28/15 13:52pm]

It doesn't show a community needing an animal trainer. It shows a community frustrated and tired of being dehumanized, and many are acting those frustrations out. Again no one advocates violnce. Had elected officials in Baltimore did their job, you would not see this happening. Baltimore's local government is brokem. So far the protests are going well, and I am sure some folks will not be happy about that.



Decent society is on the same side. Seeking to end police brutality is what you and me and all of decent society wants. There is though a way that is wrong. And there will always be an element that seeks to harm, and thats of all races. We need to focus on doing good, not pointing out how how others are. There will alwasy be things in society that need betterment, and going about it foolishly is not helpful meeting that objective.



We need to be a source of strengh for the decent, not give in base elements.


Of course most people want to live in a decent and safe society. There is a lot of work and resources needed to rebuild and empower Baltimore and other areas like Baltimore. They can put the youth to work to restore businesses that were affected by the destruction that took place. Neighbors helping neighbors to rebuild.
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Reply #96 posted 04/28/15 3:38pm

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Dauphin said:



2freaky4church1 said:


I am no longer going to advocate complete non violence. The system has to be non violent, first.



Jamal Bryant, the pastor, was all over the news. That guy really has his shit together. He is powerful.



The Bloods and Crips signed a peace treaty! wow. The Nation of Islam is in the mix too. Whitey shakin. lol




Is there a Causal relationship between Black violent protest and White Flight or Gentrification?

If so, is there a Pro vs Con summary list?

Are we headed for increased voluntary segregation in Baltimore, as well as a loss of small businesses in favor of larger corporations? How does this affect us as minorities in terms of lost or gained economic opportunity?

Just some questions I have from a "non-emotional" perspective. The emotional side of me can't rationally handle the abuses of the police department. The destruction/vandalization of non-animated objects vs the harassment and murder of people is no comparison, IMO.





Watch Don lemon on CNN tonight. He will be talking to gang members who said they had nothing to do with the looting. They said it was kids who came out of school who were doing the looting and took advantage of the situation, and that the gang members were the ones trying to stop the high school and junior high school kids from looting and destroying the community. I will check out Don's interview to see what they have to say. There is also a town meeting being held and They may show it live within the hour.

Last riot in Baltimore took place when MLK Jr. was assassinated.
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Reply #97 posted 04/28/15 3:40pm

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2elijah said:

SoulAlive said:

All over social media,I keep seeing people criticizing the protesters,calling them "thugs" and focusing primarily on their actions.I think we shouldn't lose sight of the main reason they're rioting in the first place.Until we deal with the root of the problem (police brutality),these type of riots are gonna keep happening over and over and over.This week it's in Baltimore...two weeks from now,it could happen again in another city.


Absolutely and that is the problem. Some are quick to dwell on the actions of the protesters to feed their own assumptions and prejudices, because they don't have genuine interest or give a shit about the root of the social ills that led to these protests.
[Edited 4/28/15 15:09pm]


Exactly, this is why I posted those links. How many just complaining about the rioters will actually take the time to read them?
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Reply #98 posted 04/28/15 3:50pm

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2elijah said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Decent society is on the same side. Seeking to end police brutality is what you and me and all of decent society wants. There is though a way that is wrong. And there will always be an element that seeks to harm, and thats of all races. We need to focus on doing good, not pointing out how how others are. There will alwasy be things in society that need betterment, and going about it foolishly is not helpful meeting that objective.


We need to be a source of strengh for the decent, not give in base elements.

Of course most people want to live in a decent and safe society. There is a lot of work and resources needed to rebuild and empower Baltimore and other areas like Baltimore. They can put the youth to work to restore businesses that were affected by the destruction that took place. Neighbors helping neighbors to rebuild.

Exactly. We are on the same side, but you sometimes sound adversarial. And to add to what you have said, not destroying what little you have in the first place saves a lot of time, money and effort that has alwasy been so desperatly needed.

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Reply #99 posted 04/28/15 3:58pm

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Excellent article...the system is fucked up, and something better change soon.

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Reply #100 posted 04/28/15 4:03pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

I am no longer going to advocate complete non violence. The system has to be non violent, first.

Jamal Bryant, the pastor, was all over the news. That guy really has his shit together. He is powerful.

The Bloods and Crips signed a peace treaty! wow. The Nation of Islam is in the mix too. Whitey shakin. lol

Why should 'whitey' be shaking?

The Bloods & Crips (who were a demon to the black community) need to make ammends by helping their community

the NOI is stepping up to again help their community try to put some stuff in order. Get their house in order. But a lot of people today aren't hearing that 'religious' stuff like before.

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Reply #101 posted 04/28/15 4:04pm

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2elijah said:


Absolutely and that is the problem. Some are quick to dwell on the actions of the protesters to feed their own assumptions and prejudices, because they don't have genuine interest or give a shit about the root of the social ills that led to these protests.
[Edited 4/28/15 15:09pm]


Exactly, this is why I posted those links. How many just complaining about the rioters will actually take the time to read them?

Yes, that is the big question.
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Reply #102 posted 04/28/15 4:12pm

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V10LETBLUES said:



2elijah said:


V10LETBLUES said:




Decent society is on the same side. Seeking to end police brutality is what you and me and all of decent society wants. There is though a way that is wrong. And there will always be an element that seeks to harm, and thats of all races. We need to focus on doing good, not pointing out how how others are. There will alwasy be things in society that need betterment, and going about it foolishly is not helpful meeting that objective.



We need to be a source of strengh for the decent, not give in base elements.



Of course most people want to live in a decent and safe society. There is a lot of work and resources needed to rebuild and empower Baltimore and other areas like Baltimore. They can put the youth to work to restore businesses that were affected by the destruction that took place. Neighbors helping neighbors to rebuild.


Exactly. We are on the same side, but you sometimes sound adversarial. And to add to what you have said, not destroying what little you have in the first place saves a lot of time, money and effort that has alwasy been so desperatly needed.


Sorry about that. My passion sometimes speaks for me in these situations. Lol. I really think they need to make those kids who took part in any rioting or destroying any businesses, do community service by cleaning up the damages. Many of those kids were 12 and 13 years old. It was a joy ride for them and I hope their parents, whether from single or two-parent homes will reprimand them. I am hearing there was some message on social media about a 'purge' that went out that these kids followed, and was told they could go out and act out and they would not get in trouble.

So I think maybe the assumption of many, that all these kids have no parents at home or have parents that would allow that kind of behavior from their kids, should not be assumed so quickly, because of what happened last night. As we can see how that parent reacted in public when she caught her kid in it.

This of course is not excusing their actions.

There is a town meeting in Baltimore with clergyman, residents, and others going on right now. That meeting is so needed. Hopefully positive results will come from it.
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Reply #103 posted 04/28/15 4:57pm

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V10LETBLUES said:

Exactly. We are on the same side, but you sometimes sound adversarial. And to add to what you have said, not destroying what little you have in the first place saves a lot of time, money and effort that has alwasy been so desperatly needed.

Sorry about that. My passion sometimes speaks for me in these situations. Lol. I really think they need to make those kids who took part in any rioting or destroying any businesses, do community service by cleaning up the damages. Many of those kids were 12 and 13 years old. It was a joy ride for them and I hope their parents, whether from single or two-parent homes will reprimand them. I am hearing there was some message on social media about a 'purge' that went out that these kids followed, and was told they could go out and act out and they would not get in trouble. So I think maybe the assumption of many, that all these kids have no parents at home or have parents that would allow that kind of behavior from their kids, should not be assumed so quickly, because of what happened last night. As we can see how that parent reacted in public when she caught her kid in it. This of course is not excusing their actions. There is a town meeting in Baltimore with clergyman, residents, and others going on right now. That meeting is so needed. Hopefully positive results will come from it. [Edited 4/28/15 16:33pm]

I let my passions out well. We are both very passionalte about the issue. And I agree with you that the meeting is badly needed. I am sure there is a lot of frustration, as people have jobs, family and lives to tend to, then have all this bs happen around them. I know it is a further burden on citizens who work hard for a better community and have assholes shit all over it. I am certain the residents were already overwhelmed before all of this rioting and abuse by the police, but when your community is on fire, people need to stop what they are doing and tend to it. People need to show what a community and a family is all about.
I know that is a lot to ask for, but such is life if we expect a better place for our kids and grandkids.

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Reply #104 posted 04/28/15 6:07pm

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2elijah said:


V10LETBLUES said:



Exactly. We are on the same side, but you sometimes sound adversarial. And to add to what you have said, not destroying what little you have in the first place saves a lot of time, money and effort that has alwasy been so desperatly needed.



Sorry about that. My passion sometimes speaks for me in these situations. Lol. I really think they need to make those kids who took part in any rioting or destroying any businesses, do community service by cleaning up the damages. Many of those kids were 12 and 13 years old. It was a joy ride for them and I hope their parents, whether from single or two-parent homes will reprimand them. I am hearing there was some message on social media about a 'purge' that went out that these kids followed, and was told they could go out and act out and they would not get in trouble. So I think maybe the assumption of many, that all these kids have no parents at home or have parents that would allow that kind of behavior from their kids, should not be assumed so quickly, because of what happened last night. As we can see how that parent reacted in public when she caught her kid in it. This of course is not excusing their actions. There is a town meeting in Baltimore with clergyman, residents, and others going on right now. That meeting is so needed. Hopefully positive results will come from it. [Edited 4/28/15 16:33pm]


I let my passions out well. We are both very passionalte about the issue. And I agree with you that the meeting is badly needed. I am sure there is a lot of frustration, as people have jobs, family and lives to tend to, then have all this bs happen around them. I know it is a further burden on citizens who work hard for a better community and have assholes shit all over it. I am certain the residents were already overwhelmed before all of this rioting and abuse by the police, but when your community is on fire, people need to stop what they are doing and tend to it. People need to show what a community and a family is all about.
I know that is a lot to ask for, but such is life if we expect a better place for our kids and grandkids.


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The good thing is that the community came out in full force young and old, and got together this morning to clean up the damage in their community, and most condemned those who went on a joy ride, causing damage. I won't judge all of Baltimore based on what a group of kids did, to cause damage there yesterday including some older ones who were not about the protests for Freddie. I doubt seriously if longtime Baltimore residents want their community destroyed, and I am sure there are many caring parents there. The media doesn't focus on that positive side of many families in Baltimore. There hadn't been a riot in Baltimore since MLK Jr. was assassinated.
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Reply #105 posted 04/28/15 6:52pm

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CNN is saying the community members are "confused" by asking the media to leave. Community members are rightly saying that CNN is creating a circus. That the are further inciting this mess. Is that arrogance or just plain stupidity? Is the media that fucked up in the head not to see they have been a HUGE part of the problem. Trying to squeeze a bad situation for profit.

Sensationalism in the name of "news" is the most vile aspect of today's "news" Where were they a month ago, a year ago, a decade ago putting cameras on people's faces on prime time seeking answers. If the news media cared enough they would have been doing their job listening and giving voice to all the screams of people in despair tugging at their ear for attention. Oh no, they are only there with donuts and coffee waiting for the action and ratings to come
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V10LETBLUES said:

CNN is saying the community members are "confused" by asking the media to leave. Community members are rightly saying that CNN is creating a circus. That the are further inciting this mess. Is that arrogance or just plain stupidity? Is the media that fucked up in the head not to see they have been a HUGE part of the problem. Trying to squeeze a bad situation for profit. Sensationalism in the name of "news" is the most vile aspect of today's "news" Where were they a month ago, a year ago, a decade ago putting cameras on people's faces on prime time seeking answers. If the news media cared enough they would have been doing their job listening and giving voice to all the screams of people in despair tugging at their ear for attention. Oh no, they are only there with donuts and coffee waiting for the action and ratings to come

yeah, the media certainly does not help matters............I can't stand CNN.......almost as bad as Fox News......and I hope people are not stupid enough to believe that any of the criminal actions that happened yesterday were a form of protesting.......and I love the fact that the police remained calm the entire day yesterday (they all deserve medals)

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Reply #107 posted 04/28/15 7:24pm

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V10LETBLUES said:


CNN is saying the community members are "confused" by asking the media to leave. Community members are rightly saying that CNN is creating a circus. That the are further inciting this mess. Is that arrogance or just plain stupidity? Is the media that fucked up in the head not to see they have been a HUGE part of the problem. Trying to squeeze a bad situation for profit. Sensationalism in the name of "news" is the most vile aspect of today's "news" Where were they a month ago, a year ago, a decade ago putting cameras on people's faces on prime time seeking answers. If the news media cared enough they would have been doing their job listening and giving voice to all the screams of people in despair tugging at their ear for attention. Oh no, they are only there with donuts and coffee waiting for the action and ratings to come


yeah, the media certainly does not help matters.....I can't stand CNN.....almost as bad as Fox News.....and I hope people are not stupid enough to believe that any of the criminal actions that happened yesterday were a form of protesting.....and I love the fact that the police remained calm the entire day yesterday (they all deserve medals)




If they would at least time delay their coverage. Film it but have have a blackout as not not air it until the following morning. Listen, they do this at the Oscars in case someone curses or shows a nipple. They are in fact inciting and have turned themselves into part of the story and part of the problem.
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Reply #108 posted 04/28/15 7:27pm

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The police setting smoke canisters to me doesn't seem like a good idea. It just people cover to be assholes under cover of the smoke
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Reply #109 posted 04/28/15 7:31pm

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... and I don't condone violence but if someone punched Chris Cuomo in the face, I woundnt be mad.
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Protest all you want but when you start trying to burn down a library I say release the hounds.

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Reply #111 posted 04/28/15 8:23pm

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As I said before.....these riots are gonna keep happening over and over and over,until we deal with the root of the problem (police brutality and racism).Focusing exclusively on the rioters is a mistake.We need to look at the police and the Freddie Gray incident.When these protesters shout "No justice,no peace",let's take them seriously.

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2elijah said:

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Remember, this was the same "genius" who recently said that I (of all people), just wanted to "exist in an all Black world" and was "hostile" towards Whites ....my wife got a good laugh out of that one... lol

nod and I know why your wife laughed. Lol. He jumps on these types threads and makes false accusstions towards Black orgers who challenge his questionable, stereotyped views of Blacks, and if you do, he is quick to lie, whine, use personal attacks and make false accusations against you, like calling you a racist, yet he is the one who admitted on this forum that he racially profiled Black males. A wolf in sheep's clothing for sure. lol. He is already degrading a dead Freddie Grey and his body hasn't been in the ground for 24 hours. Typical. [Edited 4/28/15 5:30am]

And his response to you that the rioters were "the same color" as you was pure race baiting. Imagine if we were discussing Bernie Madoff and his crimes, and I said to a Jewish poster, "See, he's one of your fellow yarmulke wearers, so face the facts"....That would be just as stupid and hateful

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As I said before.....these riots are gonna keep happening over and over and over,until we deal with the root of the problem (police brutality and racism).Focusing exclusively on the rioters is a mistake.We need to look at the police and the Freddie Gray incident.When these protesters shout "No justice,no peace",let's take them seriously.

I don't condone violence, and I believe that anyone committing a crime should pay the price. HOWEVER, these type of events do not exist in a vacuum, and the causes of these incidents should not be forgotten or ignored or swept under the rug

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Reply #114 posted 04/28/15 10:30pm

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CNN is saying the community members are "confused" by asking the media to leave. Community members are rightly saying that CNN is creating a circus. That the are further inciting this mess. Is that arrogance or just plain stupidity? Is the media that fucked up in the head not to see they have been a HUGE part of the problem. Trying to squeeze a bad situation for profit. Sensationalism in the name of "news" is the most vile aspect of today's "news" Where were they a month ago, a year ago, a decade ago putting cameras on people's faces on prime time seeking answers. If the news media cared enough they would have been doing their job listening and giving voice to all the screams of people in despair tugging at their ear for attention. Oh no, they are only there with donuts and coffee waiting for the action and ratings to come

it's all about "neilsen ratings" folks.

read on this:

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2 excerpts:

1. According to Nielsen Media Research, Fox News Channel led Monday night cable news network ratings in total viewers, averaging about 5.6 million people during its prime-time coverage from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. EST.

also:

2. During the 9 p.m. EST hour, when the decision was announced by prosecutor Bob McCulloch, Fox News' "The Kelly File" was the No. 1 most watched overall with 7.25 million viewers. It was second in the desired demo with about 2.2 million viewers.

yep, read the whole article: http://www.latimes.com/en...story.html

then tell me, if i thought like a conspiracy theorist, would i say much of the police stuff that's going on is of a financial benifit to the major news channels?

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Reply #115 posted 04/28/15 11:06pm

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SoulAlive said:

As I said before.....these riots are gonna keep happening over and over and over,until we deal with the root of the problem (police brutality and racism).Focusing exclusively on the rioters is a mistake.We need to look at the police and the Freddie Gray incident.When these protesters shout "No justice,no peace",let's take them seriously.

I don't condone violence, and I believe that anyone committing a crime should pay the price. HOWEVER, these type of events do not exist in a vacuum, and the causes of these incidents should not be forgotten or ignored or swept under the rug

nod I don't condone violence,either.I'm not happy with what these rioters did to their own city.But in order to prevent things like this,changes have to be made.We gotta examine the root cause and deal with the real problems going on here.Otherwise,these riots are gonna keep happening on a regular basis.Police brutality is a very real issue that we can't keep ignoring.

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SoulAlive said:

jjhunsecker said:

I don't condone violence, and I believe that anyone committing a crime should pay the price. HOWEVER, these type of events do not exist in a vacuum, and the causes of these incidents should not be forgotten or ignored or swept under the rug

nod I don't condone violence,either.I'm not happy with what these rioters did to their own city.But in order to prevent things like this,changes have to be made.We gotta examine the root cause and deal with the real problems going on here.Otherwise,these riots are gonna keep happening on a regular basis.Police brutality is a very real issue that we can't keep ignoring.



The sad thing is as a society we've been ignoring it and the riots do keep happening over and over. The media sensationalizes the looting and distracts us from the real issues of racism and police brutality.

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CNN is saying the community members are "confused" by asking the media to leave. Community members are rightly saying that CNN is creating a circus. That the are further inciting this mess. Is that arrogance or just plain stupidity? Is the media that fucked up in the head not to see they have been a HUGE part of the problem. Trying to squeeze a bad situation for profit. Sensationalism in the name of "news" is the most vile aspect of today's "news" Where were they a month ago, a year ago, a decade ago putting cameras on people's faces on prime time seeking answers. If the news media cared enough they would have been doing their job listening and giving voice to all the screams of people in despair tugging at their ear for attention. Oh no, they are only there with donuts and coffee waiting for the action and ratings to come

it's all about "neilsen ratings" folks.


read on this:


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2 excerpts:



1. According to Nielsen Media Research, Fox News Channel led Monday night cable news network ratings in total viewers, averaging about 5.6 million people during its prime-time coverage from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. EST.


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2. During the 9 p.m. EST hour, when the decision was announced by prosecutor Bob McCulloch, Fox News' "The Kelly File" was the No. 1 most watched overall with 7.25 million viewers. It was second in the desired demo with about 2.2 million viewers.



yep, read the whole article: http://www.latimes.com/en...story.html



then tell me, if i thought like a conspiracy theorist, would i say much of the police stuff that's going on is of a financial benifit to the major news channels?



nod with the media, it has always been about ratings and money from advertisers. That's why I pay no attention to their sensationalism. Some tend to overdose on their reporting.
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Reply #118 posted 04/29/15 4:09am

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I don't condone violence, and I believe that anyone committing a crime should pay the price. HOWEVER, these type of events do not exist in a vacuum, and the causes of these incidents should not be forgotten or ignored or swept under the rug




nod I don't condone violence,either.I'm not happy with what these rioters did to their own city.But in order to prevent things like this,changes have to be made.We gotta examine the root cause and deal with the real problems going on here.Otherwise,these riots are gonna keep happening on a regular basis.Police brutality is a very real issue that we can't keep ignoring.





The sad thing is as a society we've been ignoring it and the riots do keep happening over and over. The media sensationalizes the looting and distracts us from the real issues of racism and police brutality.



Because they know there is an audience that feeds off that kind of negativity of specific groups, and use what the media portrays of that group, as their ignorant, cultural education. We have seen that kind of negativity of the looting posted here by some orgers who can't wait to post about it, which only serves their own prejudices.
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Reply #119 posted 04/29/15 5:01am

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Suppose to be a peaceful demonstration in support of Baltimore protesters in NYC at Union Square this week.
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