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Reply #180 posted 04/09/15 7:35am

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Chris Rock had a routine about this very topic : He said "No white peron in here would trade places with me, and I'M RICH ! There's a white bus boy in the kitchen who is saying 'Nah, I'll stick with this white thing' "...

And while yes, things are a lot better than the 1960s, it would foolish to even consider the idea that we now live in a "color-blind society" where all that matters is "the content of your character". Race STILL matters in this country, and don't kid yourself otherwise

Thank you. Only the naive go for this "color-blind" or "post-racial" bs. Some folks will always hate others who are different, that's just reality. Unfortunately, too many of them are in power.

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Reply #181 posted 04/09/15 9:30pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

jjhunsecker said:

I DOUBT very highly that he ever said he grew up in "the Burbs". He has always spoken of growing up in the "hood" in Brooklyn (and he was bused to an all White school on the other side of Brooklyn when he was young). In fact, his childhood in Bed-Stuy was the BASIS of his autobiographical TV show "Everybody hates Chris". ! I'll assume that you are confusing him with some other Black comedian

It's over, it's not an issue

He said it in an interview, it could easily have been about a movie discussion or something

so it's not an issue to contest

He was either joking about that and you didn't get it, or you dreamt that he said it...because as recently as December he was talking in the NY Times about how he periodically returns to his old "hood", and how he's received by the locals there. He said he often rents out an ice cream truck to give free treats to the people in the neighborhood

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Reply #182 posted 04/10/15 4:17am

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This might not be a Chris Rock problem but a US problem.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #183 posted 04/10/15 5:56am

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jjhunsecker said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

It's over, it's not an issue

He said it in an interview, it could easily have been about a movie discussion or something

so it's not an issue to contest

He was either joking about that and you didn't get it, or you dreamt that he said it...because as recently as December he was talking in the NY Times about how he periodically returns to his old "hood", and how he's received by the locals there. He said he often rents out an ice cream truck to give free treats to the people in the neighborhood

Stop trying to create a flame war on this

I didn't read beyond the first line of sarcasm

Let it go seriously

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Reply #184 posted 04/10/15 5:58am

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udo said:

This might not be a Chris Rock problem but a US problem.

It's a Chris Rock issue, because it's centered on Chris Rock trying to prove something.
But when he provides all information that I can look at the full picture of what's happened to him.

As long as he withholds information about this then it's just a comedian capitalizing on a part of his routine

1.) Was Chris Rock stopped 3 times or 2 times?

2.) Why was Chris Rock stopped 2 times?

3.) Who was driving the 3rd alleged 'Chris Rock' stop?

4.) What is the race/ethnicity of the person driving on the 3rd stop?

5.) What is the race/ethnicity of each cop that 'stopped' each time?

6.) What is the gender of each cop that 'stopped' each time?

7.) Why won't Chris Rock share with the same Media outtlet, on why he was stopped?

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Reply #185 posted 04/11/15 6:45am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

jjhunsecker said:

He was either joking about that and you didn't get it, or you dreamt that he said it...because as recently as December he was talking in the NY Times about how he periodically returns to his old "hood", and how he's received by the locals there. He said he often rents out an ice cream truck to give free treats to the people in the neighborhood

Stop trying to create a flame war on this

I didn't read beyond the first line of sarcasm

Let it go seriously

I'm not trying to start a "flame war", I was simply correcting an inaccurate statement. I'm sorry if you found that offensive in any way.....

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Reply #186 posted 04/11/15 7:02am

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Pokeno4Money said:

free2bfreeda said:

if you recall correctly, i'm the orger who posted the original thread for jessica chambers. at first i checked daily for a status report on finding her murder(s). now i check once a week. still no find.

this is the latest info on her : http://www.clarionledger..../25328365/

however i have one queswtion. why is it that there seems to be a counter rebuttal by bringing her up in this thread?

rolleyes


Oh I absolutely do remember you reviving that thread (I started the thread, but whatever) and I expressed my appreciation to you for doing so. You are one of the more fairer and unbiased posters here, that's why I like you. smile

I brought her up as an example that African Americans aren't the only ones who sometimes are on the receiving end of injustice. I think you'd agree that if Jessica was African American, there'd be plenty of people here saying the cops haven't solved the murder because it's not a priority due to her blackness ... or they'd be saying the cops haven't made an arrest because it's part of a conspiracy.

[Edited 4/8/15 8:33am]

I don't think there is anybody on here who would say that justice is always fair, even for whites. If Jessica was poor, then there is probably classism at work here. Perhaps if she was richer, there would have been a different response. But can you honestly say that whites and blacks are treated equally in this society, even today ? And don't just rely on the "media", there is a lot of factual information available, on-line and in acadeic writings, that illustrates this disparity. If anything, this Chris Rock incident(s) illustrate that "classism" is often not even a factor for Black people, in that even well-off Blacks are often viewed with suspicion. If you choose not to believe Chris, look at that time that Oscar Winning Actor Forest Whittaker was accused of being a common thief in a grocery store, or the way Oprah was treated by that department store overseas

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Reply #187 posted 04/11/15 7:33am

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Pokeno4Money said:


Oh I absolutely do remember you reviving that thread (I started the thread, but whatever) and I expressed my appreciation to you for doing so. You are one of the more fairer and unbiased posters here, that's why I like you. smile

I brought her up as an example that African Americans aren't the only ones who sometimes are on the receiving end of injustice. I think you'd agree that if Jessica was African American, there'd be plenty of people here saying the cops haven't solved the murder because it's not a priority due to her blackness ... or they'd be saying the cops haven't made an arrest because it's part of a conspiracy.

[Edited 4/8/15 8:33am]

I don't think there is anybody on here who would say that justice is always fair, even for whites. If Jessica was poor, then there is probably classism at work here. Perhaps if she was richer, there would have been a different response. But can you honestly say that whites and blacks are treated equally in this society, even today ? And don't just rely on the "media", there is a lot of factual information available, on-line and in acadeic writings, that illustrates this disparity. If anything, this Chris Rock incident(s) illustrate that "classism" is often not even a factor for Black people, in that even well-off Blacks are often viewed with suspicion. If you choose not to believe Chris, look at that time that Oscar Winning Actor Forest Whittaker was accused of being a common thief in a grocery store, or the way Oprah was treated by that department store overseas

sidebar: from an honest redneck POV to reinforce ^^^^^^^ this (embolded) POV

an honest man who has a lot to say nod

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Reply #188 posted 04/11/15 7:33am

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jjhunsecker said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Stop trying to create a flame war on this

I didn't read beyond the first line of sarcasm

Let it go seriously

I'm not trying to start a "flame war", I was simply correcting an inaccurate statement. I'm sorry if you found that offensive in any way.....

Dude, It was already corrected by the other member.

The post of mine you replied to was me accepting the info from someone else who said it

nothing to do with being offended.

You just kept replying about something that was already explained.

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Reply #189 posted 04/11/15 8:03am

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jjhunsecker said:

I don't think there is anybody on here who would say that justice is always fair, even for whites. If Jessica was poor, then there is probably classism at work here. Perhaps if she was richer, there would have been a different response. But can you honestly say that whites and blacks are treated equally in this society, even today ? And don't just rely on the "media", there is a lot of factual information available, on-line and in acadeic writings, that illustrates this disparity. If anything, this Chris Rock incident(s) illustrate that "classism" is often not even a factor for Black people, in that even well-off Blacks are often viewed with suspicion. If you choose not to believe Chris, look at that time that Oscar Winning Actor Forest Whittaker was accused of being a common thief in a grocery store, or the way Oprah was treated by that department store overseas

sidebar: from an honest redneck POV to reinforce ^^^^^^^ this (embolded) POV

an honest man who has a lot to say nod

U will NEVER see this on U.S. tel-LIES-vision.

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Reply #190 posted 04/11/15 8:11am

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Can somebody send this to Chris Rock?



An honest man who has a lot to say nod

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Reply #191 posted 04/12/15 8:39pm

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uPtoWnNY said:



Graycap23 said:


Any brother with an expensive car.....understands this nonsense.




....or an inexpensive car driving through certain Long Island neighborhoods. wink



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Reply #192 posted 04/13/15 5:04am

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I'm still waiting for Chris Rock to tell the full story

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Reply #193 posted 04/13/15 5:58am

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free2bfreeda said:



jjhunsecker said:




Pokeno4Money said:




Oh I absolutely do remember you reviving that thread (I started the thread, but whatever) and I expressed my appreciation to you for doing so. You are one of the more fairer and unbiased posters here, that's why I like you. smile

I brought her up as an example that African Americans aren't the only ones who sometimes are on the receiving end of injustice. I think you'd agree that if Jessica was African American, there'd be plenty of people here saying the cops haven't solved the murder because it's not a priority due to her blackness ... or they'd be saying the cops haven't made an arrest because it's part of a conspiracy.


[Edited 4/8/15 8:33am]




I don't think there is anybody on here who would say that justice is always fair, even for whites. If Jessica was poor, then there is probably classism at work here. Perhaps if she was richer, there would have been a different response. But can you honestly say that whites and blacks are treated equally in this society, even today ? And don't just rely on the "media", there is a lot of factual information available, on-line and in acadeic writings, that illustrates this disparity. If anything, this Chris Rock incident(s) illustrate that "classism" is often not even a factor for Black people, in that even well-off Blacks are often viewed with suspicion. If you choose not to believe Chris, look at that time that Oscar Winning Actor Forest Whittaker was accused of being a common thief in a grocery store, or the way Oprah was treated by that department store overseas



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an honest man who has a lot to say nod




Just seeing this. Wow, talk about honesty. He speaks some ugly and harsh truths about racial profiling to the past and current atmosphere of race in America. I don't know why some are so afraid to discuss these types of truths that he has mentioned. I commend him for his honesty. Would be a good topic for discussion here, but then again that may not go over well here.

Anyway, I guess some think with a celeb like Chris, sharing being stopped police, opened a can of worms for some. Those who choose to sugarcoat these issues is certainly no solution whatsoever, because all that does is give support to the problem and keeps it in denial stage.
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Reply #194 posted 04/13/15 6:22am

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that 'racist' saying was said by blacks to other blacks

free2bfreeda said:

OldFriends4Sale said:



Despite the broad parameters set for the "known" location of weapons of mass destruction, they were never found.
4.
Bernie Madoff
HowStuffWorks reports:

When Bernie Madoff admitted that his investment firm was "just one big lie," it was an understatement [source: Esposito]. In 2008, he confessed to having conned about $50 billion from investors who trusted him with their savings. Madoff used the f ormula of a Ponzi scheme to keep up the fraud for more than a decade.

This classic lie is named after the notorious Charles Ponzi, who used the ploy in the early 20th century. It works like this: A schemer promises investors great returns, but instead of investing the money, he keeps some for himself and uses the funds from new investments to pay off earlier investors.

note:

chris rock has not been proven to be lying about his claims inspite of all the hollow accusations and innuendos that are being made by many here.

eek

makes me think about an old racist saying:

1. if you are white you are always right

2. if you are brown you can stick around

3. if you are black you better stand back

of course this "old racist saying" does not apply around here. right?

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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #195 posted 04/13/15 12:06pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

that 'racist' saying was said by blacks to other blacks

free2bfreeda said:

note:

chris rock has not been proven to be lying about his claims inspite of all the hollow accusations and innuendoes that are being made by many here.

eek

makes me think about an old racist saying: *

1. if you are white you are always right

2. if you are brown you can stick around

3. if you are black you better stand back

of course this "old racist saying" does not apply around here. right?

i guess whoever originated the * saying must have observed and experienced this racist reality in their own life.

confused

it's almost the same as the concept of the acceptance as "blond" haired whites as being more beautiful, pure and less racially mixed, vs dark haired whites as not as appealing or beautiful.

the dark haired white was considered as being questionable as being pure white, as they seemed more racially mixed, aka; mongrolized or crossbred.

but then,

i guess it's a parralell "racist" concept that was originated by whites to other whites.

rolleyes


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Reply #196 posted 04/13/15 12:29pm

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free2bfreeda said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

that 'racist' saying was said by blacks to other blacks

i guess whoever originated the * saying must have observed and experienced this racist reality in their own life.

confused

it's almost the same as the concept of the acceptance as "blond" haired whites as being more beautiful, pure and less racially mixed, vs dark haired whites as not as appealing or beautiful.

the dark haired white was considered as being questionable as being pure white, as they seemed more racially mixed, aka; mongrolized or crossbred.

but then,

i guess it's a parralell "racist" concept that was originated by whites to other whites.

rolleyes


Yep

From all my readings it's definately a creation of Colored people, originated by internalized racism.

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Reply #197 posted 04/13/15 12:34pm

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Pokeno4Money said:


Oh I absolutely do remember you reviving that thread (I started the thread, but whatever) and I expressed my appreciation to you for doing so. You are one of the more fairer and unbiased posters here, that's why I like you. smile

I brought her up as an example that African Americans aren't the only ones who sometimes are on the receiving end of injustice. I think you'd agree that if Jessica was African American, there'd be plenty of people here saying the cops haven't solved the murder because it's not a priority due to her blackness ... or they'd be saying the cops haven't made an arrest because it's part of a conspiracy.

[Edited 4/8/15 8:33am]

I don't think there is anybody on here who would say that justice is always fair, even for whites. If Jessica was poor, then there is probably classism at work here. Perhaps if she was richer, there would have been a different response. But can you honestly say that whites and blacks are treated equally in this society, even today ? And don't just rely on the "media", there is a lot of factual information available, on-line and in acadeic writings, that illustrates this disparity. If anything, this Chris Rock incident(s) illustrate that "classism" is often not even a factor for Black people, in that even well-off Blacks are often viewed with suspicion. If you choose not to believe Chris, look at that time that Oscar Winning Actor Forest Whittaker was accused of being a common thief in a grocery store, or the way Oprah was treated by that department store overseas


Oh I completely agree, there's all sorts of groups who have dealt with all sorts of discrimination. Life is more often unfair than fair, that's just the way it is.

Nobody is always treated equally, but to answer your question better I'd have to know by whom? If you mean cops, yes of course there are racist cops in the US. There's 900,000 law enforcement officers in the US, which means even if only 1% is racist that's still 9,000 bad cops.

Now for every black celebrity that gets hassled by cops it's probably safe to say there's 10 black celebrities that were given a verbal warning instead of a ticket, just because of their fame.

"This verdict said that there's a different rule for a cultural icon than there is for a regular defendant. It takes a higher threshold and a cleaner case to convict someone of that stature." ---- Alameda Public Defender Jay Gaskill on the OJ verdict.

I can give plenty of other examples of preferential treatment for black celebrities. Look at all the people that helped cover up for Bill Cosby!

Bottom line, no matter what the skin color we are all basically the same. We all put our shoes on one foot at a time.

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Reply #198 posted 04/13/15 1:03pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

free2bfreeda said:

i guess whoever originated the * saying must have observed and experienced this racist reality in their own life.

confused

it's almost the same as the concept of the acceptance as "blond" haired whites as being more beautiful, pure and less racially mixed, vs dark haired whites as not as appealing or beautiful.

the dark haired white was considered as being questionable as being pure white, as they seemed more racially mixed, aka; mongrolized or crossbred.

but then,

i guess it's a parralell "racist" concept that was originated by whites to other whites.

rolleyes


Yep

From all my readings it's definately a creation of Colored people, originated by internalized r

cool

acism.

Big Bill Broonzy

: http://www.culturalequity...roonzy.php

One of Broonzy's best known songs, the protest song, "Black, Brown, and White", addressed the experiences of black war vets and the painful issue of preferential treatment by gradations of skin color:

This little song that I'm singing about,
Brother you know it's true.
If you're black and gotta work for a living
This is what they will say to you.
Chorus:
They say if you's white, should be all right,
If you's brown, stick around,
But if you's black, well, brothers, get back, get back, get back.

I was in a place one night,
They was all having fun.
They was all buyin' beer and wine
But they would not sell me none.

Me and a man was workin' side by side.
This is what it meant:
He was making a dollar an hour,
They was paying me fifty cent.

I helped build this country,
I fought for it too.
Now I guess you can see
What a black man have to do

so the saying was not (as you say) a definite creation of "colored" people as a whole is incorrect. actually the saying came into creation from a song by one black blues man, "Big Bill Broonzy."

if you post your source then i will stand corrected. neutral

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Well my post was refuting your post that said 'as a whole' white people/racism created it. Which is incorrect.

As I said it came from Colored people,

Your posts opens a can of worms.
Did he 'invent' that line?

or was it something he collectively created with others?

was it something colored folk were already saying, and 'like a lot of musicians' he added it to his song?
Also his piece in the song is different and excludes Yellow (and Red in some cases)

And that does not prove Bill Broonzy created it.

.
White/Light you are alright

Yellow you are mellow

Brown stick around

Black step/get(I've also read 'get the hell') back

.

I doubt Yellow is Asian and Brown Latino in this usage.

.

PaigeFrench.wordpress.com

said it can from a Nursery rhyme

.

@ BlackTokyo.com

A Rev. Joseph Lowery

said in a benediction he grew up with

If you're white you're right

If you're yellow you're mellow

If you're red, you're dead

If you're brown stick around

And if you are black get back

free2bfreeda said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I was in a place one night,
They was all having fun.
They was all buyin' beer and wine
But they would not sell me none.

Me and a man was workin' side by side.
This is what it meant:
He was making a dollar an hour,
They was paying me fifty cent.

I helped build this country,
I fought for it too.
Now I guess you can see
What a black man have to do

so the saying was not (as you say) a definite creation of "colored" people as a whole is incorrect. actually the saying came into creation from a song by one black blues man, "Big Bill Broonzy."

if you post your source then i will stand corrected. neutral

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

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What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
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Reply #200 posted 04/13/15 5:23pm

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Well my post was refuting your post that said 'as a whole' white people/racism created it. Which is incorrect.

As I said it came from Colored people,

Your posts opens a can of worms.
Did he 'invent' that line?

or was it something he collectively created with others?

was it something colored folk were already saying, and 'like a lot of musicians' he added it to his song?
Also his piece in the song is different and excludes Yellow (and Red in some cases)

And that does not prove Bill Broonzy created it.

.
White/Light you are alright

Yellow you are mellow

Brown stick around

Black step/get(I've also read 'get the hell') back

.

I doubt Yellow is Asian and Brown Latino in this usage.

.

PaigeFrench.wordpress.com

said it can from a Nursery rhyme

.

@ BlackTokyo.com

A Rev. Joseph Lowery

said in a benediction he grew up with

If you're white you're right

If you're yellow you're mellow

If you're red, you're dead

If you're brown stick around

And if you are black get back

free2bfreeda said:

rolleyes whatever!

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free2bfreeda said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well my post was refuting your post that said 'as a whole' white people/racism created it. Which is incorrect.

As I said it came from Colored people,

Your posts opens a can of worms.
Did he 'invent' that line?

or was it something he collectively created with others?

was it something colored folk were already saying, and 'like a lot of musicians' he added it to his song?
Also his piece in the song is different and excludes Yellow (and Red in some cases)

And that does not prove Bill Broonzy created it.

.
White/Light you are alright

Yellow you are mellow

Brown stick around

Black step/get(I've also read 'get the hell') back

.

I doubt Yellow is Asian and Brown Latino in this usage.

.

PaigeFrench.wordpress.com

said it can from a Nursery rhyme

.

@ BlackTokyo.com

A Rev. Joseph Lowery

said in a benediction he grew up with

If you're white you're right

If you're yellow you're mellow

If you're red, you're dead

If you're brown stick around

And if you are black get back

rolleyes whatever!

I'm on the other side of the fence, so I get 'whatever' lol

thought we were sharing info

I doubt though the Chris Rock can use this as an excuse to getting pulled over

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What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
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Reply #202 posted 04/13/15 7:23pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PaigeFrench.wordpress.com

said it can from a Nursery rhyme - what year?

.

@ BlackTokyo.com -

A Dr Joseph Lowery ***

said in a benediction he grew up with

If you're white you're right

If you're yellow you're mellow

If you're red, you're dead

If you're brown stick around

And if you are black get back

^^^^^please post your online link so i know it's valid info :

free2bfreeda said:

rolleyes whatever!

lol you didn't have to reply

I'm on the other side of the fence, so I get 'whatever' lol

thought we were sharing info

: http://www.bottleneckcafe...l-broonzy/

Broonzy said he wrote Black-Brown and White in 1939 while he was working as a molder. After he put in many long hours on the job he was told to train an new co-worker (who happened to be white). Broonzy did as he was told and took the new hire under his wing, teaching him all he knew about molding. Shortly after his training was complete the man he trained was promoted and became Broonzy’s boss! Weather or not this actually happened to Broonzy is inconsequential. Situations like these did (and unfortunately still sometimes do) happen in our society.

cool

note: http://www.play-blues-gui...y-link.php

During the benediction at the 2009 inauguration ceremony of President Barack Obma , the civil rights leader Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery*** paraphrased Broonzy's song "Black, Brown and White Blues". Broonzy recorded over 350 compositions.

falloff

seems one of us has more factual information on the origin of the saying, that seems to be moi.

reading and check your sources more in depth my man. nod

>

i hope chris rock will use thiese lines in one of his performances. black- brown - white

it should get some questionable laughter.

[Edited 4/13/15 19:31pm]

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #203 posted 04/13/15 7:35pm

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free2bfreeda said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

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said it can from a Nursery rhyme - what year?

.

@ BlackTokyo.com -

A Dr Joseph Lowery ***

said in a benediction he grew up with

If you're white you're right

If you're yellow you're mellow

If you're red, you're dead

If you're brown stick around

And if you are black get back

^^^^^please post your online link so i know it's valid info :

lol you didn't have to reply

I'm on the other side of the fence, so I get 'whatever' lol

thought we were sharing info

: http://www.bottleneckcafe...l-broonzy/

Broonzy said he wrote Black-Brown and White in 1939 while he was working as a molder. After he put in many long hours on the job he was told to train an new co-worker (who happened to be white). Broonzy did as he was told and took the new hire under his wing, teaching him all he knew about molding. Shortly after his training was complete the man he trained was promoted and became Broonzy’s boss! Weather or not this actually happened to Broonzy is inconsequential. Situations like these did (and unfortunately still sometimes do) happen in our society.

cool

note: http://www.play-blues-gui...y-link.php

During the benediction at the 2009 inauguration ceremony of President Barack Obma , the civil rights leader Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery*** paraphrased Broonzy's song "Black, Brown and White Blues". Broonzy recorded over 350 compositions.

falloff

seems one of us has more factual information on the origin of the saying, that seems to be moi.

reading and check your sources more in depth my man. nod

My questions still stand

No proof that he created that 'poem'

and it is something created from the Colored community

ahhh this is a pissing contest

None of that info sheds any light on who originated this

You still did not shed any knew light on this

all you did was post part of what I quoted and a youtube clips of the same song

how did Rev Dr Lowery (whom I poste on 1st) paraphrase Broonzy's song

when the Rev quoted a totally diff piece with more parts not included in Broonzy's song?

but you prove my case that it was not a 'white' creation

.

hugs & kisses

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A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

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Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #204 posted 04/13/15 8:40pm

free2bfreeda

OldFriends4Sale said:

free2bfreeda said:

: http://www.bottleneckcafe...l-broonzy/

Broonzy said he wrote Black-Brown and White in 1939 while he was working as a molder. After he put in many long hours on the job he was told to train an new co-worker (who happened to be white). Broonzy did as he was told and took the new hire under his wing, teaching him all he knew about molding. Shortly after his training was complete the man he trained was promoted and became Broonzy’s boss! Weather or not this actually happened to Broonzy is inconsequential. Situations like these did (and unfortunately still sometimes do) happen in our society.

cool

note: http://www.play-blues-gui...y-link.php

During the benediction at the 2009 inauguration ceremony of President Barack Obma , the civil rights leader Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery*** paraphrased Broonzy's song "Black, Brown and White Blues".Broonzy recorded over 350 compositions.

falloff

seems one of us has more factual information on the origin of the saying, that seems to be moi.

reading and check your sources more in depth my man. nod

My questions still stand

No proof that he created that 'poem'

and it is something created from the Colored community

ahhh this is a pissing contest

None of that info sheds any light on who originated this

You still did not shed any knew light on this

all you did was post part of what I quoted and a youtube clips of the same song

how did Rev Dr Lowery (whom I poste on 1st) paraphrase Broonzy's song

when the Rev quoted a totally diff piece with more parts not included in Broonzy's song?

but you prove my case that it was not a 'white' creation

.

hugs & kisses

and no proof that it was something that it was "created from the Colored community." for all you know it was more than likely created by the Caucasian community. 'if you're white you're right.'

(seems a need to be that way in this case.)

cool

kudos to Big Bill Broonzy for making it a well known phrase that was paraphrased by Dr Lowery

eek

so as far as a "pissing contest" goes, that is something that (a lot) of men do as they seem to have a need to stand to prove themselves as being dominant and have an ongoing quest to always be right. (as proven here). the "pissing contest" it's not a woman thing.

now back on topic:

'Chris Rock stopped by the cops 3 times in seven weeks!'

i'll send the following to chris rock. hopefully he can use it on his next stand up performance.

>

remember while driving

if you're black watch out u might be under a cop attack

if you're brown most cops say stay from down town

if you're white cops say you can drive any time & always be right.

hug if you need to be right, it's alright.

[Edited 4/13/15 20:49pm]

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #205 posted 04/13/15 8:54pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

free2bfreeda said:

: http://www.bottleneckcafe...l-broonzy/

Broonzy said he wrote Black-Brown and White in 1939 while he was working as a molder. After he put in many long hours on the job he was told to train an new co-worker (who happened to be white). Broonzy did as he was told and took the new hire under his wing, teaching him all he knew about molding. Shortly after his training was complete the man he trained was promoted and became Broonzy’s boss! Weather or not this actually happened to Broonzy is inconsequential. Situations like these did (and unfortunately still sometimes do) happen in our society.

cool

note: http://www.play-blues-gui...y-link.php

During the benediction at the 2009 inauguration ceremony of President Barack Obma , the civil rights leader Rev. Dr. Joseph Lowery*** paraphrased Broonzy's song "Black, Brown and White Blues". Broonzy recorded over 350 compositions.

falloff

seems one of us has more factual information on the origin of the saying, that seems to be moi.

reading and check your sources more in depth my man. nod

My questions still stand

No proof that he created that 'poem'

and it is something created from the Colored community

ahhh this is a pissing contest

None of that info sheds any light on who originated this

You still did not shed any knew light on this

all you did was post part of what I quoted and a youtube clips of the same song

how did Rev Dr Lowery (whom I poste on 1st) paraphrase Broonzy's song

when the Rev quoted a totally diff piece with more parts not included in Broonzy's song?

but you prove my case that it was not a 'white' creation

.

hugs & kisses

That was a common saying in the Black community in the past (I recall people of my Grandparent's generation saying it)...It is a DESCRIPTION of the views of the larger society based on skin color, not a statement of Black "self-hatred" or anything like that

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free2bfreeda said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

My questions still stand

No proof that he created that 'poem'

and it is something created from the Colored community

ahhh this is a pissing contest

None of that info sheds any light on who originated this

You still did not shed any knew light on this

all you did was post part of what I quoted and a youtube clips of the same song

how did Rev Dr Lowery (whom I poste on 1st) paraphrase Broonzy's song

when the Rev quoted a totally diff piece with more parts not included in Broonzy's song?

but you prove my case that it was not a 'white' creation

.

hugs & kisses

and no proof that it was something that it was "created from the Colored community." for all you know it was more than likely created by the Caucasian community. 'if you're white you're right.'

(seems a need to be that way in this case.)

cool

kudos to Big Bill Broonzy for making it a well known phrase that was paraphrased by Dr Lowery

eek

so as far as a "pissing contest" goes, that is something that (a lot) of men do as they seem to have a need to stand to prove themselves as being dominant and have an ongoing quest to always be right. (as proven here). the "pissing contest" it's not a woman thing.

now back on topic:

'Chris Rock stopped by the cops 3 times in seven weeks!'

i'll send the following to chris rock. hopefully he can use it on his next stand up performance.

>

remember while driving

if you're black watch out u might be under a cop attack

if you're brown most cops say stay from down town

if you're white cops say you can drive any time & always be right.

hug if you need to be right, it's alright.

[Edited 4/13/15 20:49pm]

lol you are defeating your own arguement.

And as far as pissing, well yes I'm a man, and I can piss further and more accurately lol

But you brought the 'moi' & the 'whatever' into it not me, which mean you probably where more 'invested'

lol that is a subject by itself. Women are extremely competitive and can be down right vicious. And tend to try to 'piss' to prove themselves in 'a man's world'

.

White you're alright

Yellow you're mellow

brown stick around

red you are dead

black step back

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A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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jjhunsecker said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

My questions still stand

No proof that he created that 'poem'

and it is something created from the Colored community

ahhh this is a pissing contest

None of that info sheds any light on who originated this

You still did not shed any knew light on this

all you did was post part of what I quoted and a youtube clips of the same song

how did Rev Dr Lowery (whom I poste on 1st) paraphrase Broonzy's song

when the Rev quoted a totally diff piece with more parts not included in Broonzy's song?

but you prove my case that it was not a 'white' creation

.

hugs & kisses

That was a common saying in the Black community in the past (I recall people of my Grandparent's generation saying it)...It is a DESCRIPTION of the views of the larger society based on skin color, not a statement of Black "self-hatred" or anything like that

I said nothing of it being of self hatred. And yes I'm very aware (as we've pointed out) it's roots are in the Colored community of origin.

And most likely where people internalize racism, people use it to attack 'there own' or themselves.

When someone like Michael Jackson changes, and someone like Lil Kim goes from this to now almost looking asian, it's internalized self hatred.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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Reply #208 posted 04/13/15 10:23pm

free2bfreeda

OldFriends4Sale said:

jjhunsecker said:

That was a common saying in the Black community in the past (I recall people of my Grandparent's generation saying it)...It is a DESCRIPTION of the views of the larger society based on skin color, not a statement of Black "self-hatred" or anything like that

I said nothing of it being of self hatred. And yes I'm very aware (as we've pointed out) it's roots are in the Colored community of origin.

And most likely where people internalize racism, people use it to attack 'there own' or themselves.

When someone like Michael Jackson changes, and someone like Lil Kim goes from this to now almost looking asian, it's internalized self hatred.

as a moderator you seem to be going all wackadoo and continuously going off topic.

i hope you're not having any personal problems, 'cause you keep going all over the place with your post and not mentioning chris rock who is the subject of this thread.

aren't you breaking one of the rules at prince.org:

Keep messages on-topic,

eek just asking.

back on topic:

Chris Rock Claims He Was .... - YouTub ▶ 0:45

[Edited 4/13/15 22:40pm]

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free2bfreeda said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I said nothing of it being of self hatred. And yes I'm very aware (as we've pointed out) it's roots are in the Colored community of origin.

And most likely where people internalize racism, people use it to attack 'there own' or themselves.

When someone like Michael Jackson changes, and someone like Lil Kim goes from this to now almost looking asian, it's internalized self hatred.

as a moderator you seem to be going all wackadoo and continuously going off topic.

i hope you're not having any personal problems, 'cause you keep going off topic.

Well U actually introduced that topic

I replied to it, your post #140, you connected it to Chris Rock

But it was good information good discussion

(I won't go personal on you, won't criticize you)

And who doesn't have personal problems, the human race is born into personal problems

look what we are talking about, some serious personal problems in the world

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

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What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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