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lazycrockett

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Mitt To Announce VP Pick Tomorrow @ 8:45 a.m Its Paul Ryan

Tweets have went out and according to some who have looked at charter flights it appears Paul Ryan is his pick.

According to MSNBC and Huffington its Paul Ryan.

[Edited 8/10/12 21:20pm]

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Reply #1 posted 08/10/12 9:24pm

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Looks like it.

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Reply #2 posted 08/10/12 9:25pm

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No idea why Ryan wants to jump on a sinking ship though.

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Reply #3 posted 08/10/12 9:27pm

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Ryan brings nothing but a few tea baggers and loses the elderly and the independents. Mitt has no clue how to actually win an election, now buying one is a different matter.

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Reply #4 posted 08/10/12 10:04pm

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I think Ryan is a good pick if true. At least he is someone with ideals, whether you agree with or not. I think that he is passionate about what he works for. I like Ryan, I think he's smart and stands his ground in an unapologetic way.

I don't think I could ever vote for him, but of the republicans out there he is amongst the one's I respect.
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Reply #5 posted 08/10/12 10:16pm

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i really hope its ryan as thats a bad pick

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Reply #6 posted 08/10/12 10:19pm

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cborgman said:

i really hope its ryan as thats a bad pick

I agree.

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Reply #7 posted 08/10/12 10:26pm

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Nothing says "Winning" like telling the largest group of registered voters that actually show up to the polls(The Elderly) that the government is going to replace their favorire program (medicare) with vouchers.

nuts

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Reply #8 posted 08/10/12 10:29pm

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and look at his voting record...

http://www.ontheissues.or..._Ryan.htm/

pray please let it be ryan.

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Reply #9 posted 08/10/12 10:37pm

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Reply #10 posted 08/10/12 10:38pm

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First Paul Ryan, now Chris Christie. Conservative thought leaders are turning up the heat on Mitt Romney to go bold in his choice of running mate – and away from the “safe” choices of Rob Portman and Tim Pawlenty.

The call for Congressman Ryan of Wisconsin – the young Budget Committee chairman dubbed the intellectual leader of the GOP – has more backers, including The Wall Street Journal editorial page and top editors at The Weekly Standard. The chatteringclasses treat Governor Christie of New Jersey, floated for vice president by Washington Post columnistMichael Gerson, as a less serious possibility, given his blunt style, big persona, and short time in office.

But the larger point is this: The conventional wisdom that Mr. Romney will play it safe, and choose between Senator Portman of Ohio and former Governor Pawlenty, has sparked worry among some leading Republicans.

RECOMMENDED: Mitt Romney's five biggest assets and five biggest liabilities as GOP nominee

Why? Just look at the polls. Romney, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, is clearly trailingPresident Obama, and conservatives are worried that loyal but bland understudies won’t help give Romney’s candidacy the juice it apparently needs. The most recent polls, CNN/Opinion Research and Fox News, have Obama up by seven and nine percentage points, respectively.

In their Weekly Standard piece, Stephen Hayes and William Kristol tackle the argument that “the Ryan budget” – a bold, controversial blueprint for spending cuts and entitlement reforms – makes the congressman a risky choice. Romney embraced the Ryan plan during the primaries, and willcontinue to campaign on it, they say, so why not have its author out there making the case himself?

“Having Paul Ryan on the ticket may well make it easier to defend the plan convincingly,” Messrs. Hayes and Kristol write. “Ryan's pretty good at that.”

The Wall Street Journal editorial argues that Americans are hungry for a leader willing to take on tough issues – and that the choice of Ryan would reinforce that message.

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Reply #11 posted 08/10/12 10:38pm

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N wait till he has to actually explain logically/financially how his budget plan works. blunt

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Reply #12 posted 08/10/12 10:41pm

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lazycrockett said:

N wait till he has to actually explain logically/financially how his budget plan works. blunt

mmm-hmm.

it's full of vague points and leaves a LOT to be questioned

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Reply #13 posted 08/11/12 4:46am

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I welcome the Ryan pick actually. Maybe now we can get the debate we as a country deserves.

However, we got to remember Ryan's not on the top of the ticket. So, it will be interesting to see if Romney tries to incorporate Ryan's plans into his campaign or the RNC platform.

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Reply #14 posted 08/11/12 5:45am

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Please be Ryan. That would so be awesome. lol
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Reply #15 posted 08/11/12 6:26am

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Ryan? Wow. Just when you thought R-Money's campaign team had done everything wrong that was possible, they hit new highs (or lows, depending on your outlook).

Paul Ryan does NOT inspire confidence. He never looks like he got enough sleep, and we all know about his uncanny resemblance to Eddie Munster. In fact, R-Money could be made up to look like Herman Munster pretty easily. I'm sure the Photoshoppers will have fun with that.

But back to the pick. I said R-Money needed to pick a senator or governor, and we're going to soon see why I felt that way. Representatives aren't well-known outside their own district, no matter who they are.

Right now, Wisconsin and its 10 electoral votes are seen going with Obama. http://www.electoral-vote.com/ I'm going to predict right now that the Ryan pick doesn't change that. Now, I don't live in Wisconsin (nor do I have a special condo loan there) but I cannot see any representative having a high enough profile to matter throughout the rest of the state. Wisconsin's just too large a state for a representative to be known much outside his own district.

However, that's not Ryan's biggest weakness. His budget is. It calls for the elimination of Medicare. Who cares what replaces it? It calls for the elimination of Medicare. Ask a senior citizen how they feel about THAT. And understand this - all the senior citizens have already fully funded their Medicare plans. They couldn't care LESS about how us younger folks are going to get our medical care when we're senior citizens. They've already got theirs and all they're going to hear is that Ryan wants to take it away.

Ka-BOOM.

Joe Biden is going to absolutely kill Ryan in their debate. At least Sarah Paln was pretty and could wink at all the guys. Eddie Munster doesn't have that going for him, which isn't nice.

IMO, this was a giant swing-and-a-miss for R-Money.

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Reply #16 posted 08/11/12 10:32am

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Musicslave said:

I welcome the Ryan pick actually. Maybe now we can get the debate we as a country deserves.

However, we got to remember Ryan's not on the top of the ticket. So, it will be interesting to see if Romney tries to incorporate Ryan's plans into his campaign or the RNC platform.

What other reason was there to pick him as VP?

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Reply #17 posted 08/11/12 10:49am

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SUPRMAN said:

Musicslave said:

I welcome the Ryan pick actually. Maybe now we can get the debate we as a country deserves.

However, we got to remember Ryan's not on the top of the ticket. So, it will be interesting to see if Romney tries to incorporate Ryan's plans into his campaign or the RNC platform.

What other reason was there to pick him as VP?

Exactly!!

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lazycrockett said:

Nothing says "Winning" like telling the largest group of registered voters that actually show up to the polls(The Elderly) that the government is going to replace their favorire program (medicare) with vouchers.

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That is an outright lie.

No one over age 55 ("The Elderly" - as you call them) will be affected by any proposed changes to Medicare. Those under 55 will have the option — if they wish — to purchase health plans that reflect their tastes and preferences - a choice members of Congress currently have. In addition, the federal government will provide financial assistance to help people buy coverage, depending on their level of income. The rich will get less help, the poor will get more. And any senior (present or future) who finds this unattractive is welcome to remain in Medicare as we know it.

Of course, whether they will want to stay on the current Medicare is debatable, since Obama and Congress stole a half a trillion dollars from Medicare to pay for Obamacare. There are currently a lot of seniors who are having trouble getting care, since the Medicare reimbursement rate is so low - and expected to sink further.

But, hey - let's just stick with the fearmongering and "pushing Grandma off a cliff" imagery. Far better to let the current system crash and burn (which it will) than to try to reform it. shrug

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Reply #19 posted 08/11/12 5:42pm

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Genesia said:

lazycrockett said:

Nothing says "Winning" like telling the largest group of registered voters that actually show up to the polls(The Elderly) that the government is going to replace their favorire program (medicare) with vouchers.

nuts


That is an outright lie.

No one over age 55 ("The Elderly" - as you call them) will be affected by any proposed changes to Medicare. Those under 55 will have the option — if they wish — to purchase health plans that reflect their tastes and preferences - a choice members of Congress currently have. In addition, the federal government will provide financial assistance to help people buy coverage, depending on their level of income. The rich will get less help, the poor will get more. And any senior (present or future) who finds this unattractive is welcome to remain in Medicare as we know it.

Of course, whether they will want to stay on the current Medicare is debatable, since Obama and Congress stole a half a trillion dollars from Medicare to pay for Obamacare. There are currently a lot of seniors who are having trouble getting care, since the Medicare reimbursement rate is so low - and expected to sink further.

But, hey - let's just stick with the fearmongering and "pushing Grandma off a cliff" imagery. Far better to let the current system crash and burn (which it will) than to try to reform it. shrug

Sure, fearmongering seems the way to go...... lol

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Reply #20 posted 08/11/12 7:54pm

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Many opponents are focusing on changes to the Medicare program that will reduce the federal deficit by more than $500 billion in the next decade, deceivingly claiming these savings come from devastating cuts to the program. Opponents of the law also misstate that seniors will be negatively affected by the changes. They conveniently leave out some important details, among them that the Affordable Care Act actually:

  • Provides many preventive services and screenings for free
  • Reduces prescription costs for Medicare enrollees
  • Improves the care and coverage provided to senior citizens
  • Extends the life of the program by keeping costs under control and paying for care more efficiently

To say the Affordable Care Act takes money away from Medicare and raises costs for seniors is grossly misleading and overly simplistic. Obamacare actually improves the program for Medicare beneficiaries. Here’s why.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/07/obamacare_medicare.html

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Reply #22 posted 08/12/12 10:29am

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lazycrockett said:


That's hilarious and depressing at the same time
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Reply #23 posted 08/12/12 1:36pm

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de-lurking for a moment.

Watching some of the news yesterday on Paul Ryan, the Republicans seem to be playing up his "all-american" upbrining, how likable he is, and putting emphasis on the fact that his dad died when he was a teen and he made his own way, and every U.S. citizen is presented with the same opportunities to do the same. And every mentally and physically abled bodied person has no reason not to be working, and nothing is keeping them from working but themselves. It's hard to believe these guys are this out of touch with reality.

I had to laugh when one CNN reporter added "well assuming there are jobs to be had" after a clip of Rommney's speech in Va was shown.

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Reply #24 posted 08/12/12 1:54pm

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Yeah the "he spent his whole life in Zanesville, Wi" except for the last 15 years where hes been living in DC as a washington insider. But just ignore that and looky he likes to catch fish with his bare handsand he loves him some Led Zepplin we can trust that good ole boy to protect our country and get us back on track, Yee Haw. smile

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Reply #25 posted 08/12/12 3:14pm

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I know nothing about him but I am guessing they are all just the same. Just another rich white politician. We really need a smart female in the race.

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Reply #26 posted 08/12/12 4:37pm

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Shanti0608 said:

I know nothing about him but I am guessing they are all just the same. Just another rich white politician. We really need a smart female in the race.

shrug

We tried that in 2008.

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Reply #27 posted 08/12/12 5:06pm

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SUPRMAN said:

Shanti0608 said:

I know nothing about him but I am guessing they are all just the same. Just another rich white politician. We really need a smart female in the race.

shrug

We tried that in 2008.

She said smart female.

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Reply #28 posted 08/12/12 5:14pm

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^ confused

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Reply #29 posted 08/12/12 5:32pm

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SUPRMAN said:

We tried that in 2008.

She said smart female.

I am sorry but she was not smart. Jill Stein seems smart from the Green Party but this country wants celebs to be politicians. People seem to forget the elections are not a reality show.

I am fed up with all of it to be honest.

I used to care a lot about politics.

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