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Graycap23

Stylish shoe or symbol of slavery?

Stylish shoe or symbol of slavery?

(Adidas)

(Adidas)

After first defending the design of a new line of sneakers against accusations of racism, Adidas announced Tuesday it would pull its JS Roundhouse Mid shoe from production.

Adidas made the move after critics of the sneaker, which features plastic orange chains and a cuff that strapped around the ankle, said the straps resembled shackles – an image reminiscent of slavery.

In brushing off critics, Adidas said in a statement that the shoe was the ‘outrageous and unique take on fashion’ by noted fashion designer Jeremy Scott.

The shoe, which was going to sell for $350 a pair, was previewed months ago and generated little chatter until Adidas recently started promoting it on its Facebook page.

http://blogs.ajc.com/business-beat/2012/06/19/stylish-shoe-or-symbol-of-slavery/?cxntlid=thbz_hm

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Reply #1 posted 06/19/12 1:53pm

SUPRMAN

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Who is being forced to wear it? It doesn't even link tyhe shoes together.

No one. Rather than focus on real problems, create a sideshow.

Just stylin'.

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Reply #2 posted 06/19/12 3:09pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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there is a topic on this shoe already.

and you posted in it!

[Edited 6/19/12 15:10pm]

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Reply #3 posted 06/19/12 4:36pm

XxAxX

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Graycap23 said:

Stylish shoe or symbol of slavery?

(Adidas)

(Adidas)

After first defending the design of a new line of sneakers against accusations of racism, Adidas announced Tuesday it would pull its JS Roundhouse Mid shoe from production.

Adidas made the move after critics of the sneaker, which features plastic orange chains and a cuff that strapped around the ankle, said the straps resembled shackles – an image reminiscent of slavery.

In brushing off critics, Adidas said in a statement that the shoe was the ‘outrageous and unique take on fashion’ by noted fashion designer Jeremy Scott.

The shoe, which was going to sell for $350 a pair, was previewed months ago and generated little chatter until Adidas recently started promoting it on its Facebook page.

http://blogs.ajc.com/business-beat/2012/06/19/stylish-shoe-or-symbol-of-slavery/?cxntlid=thbz_hm

i think adidas is trying to make the point that Adidas shoes are so precious to the wearer that said wearer must attach the shoes to their body, like a courier handcuffed to a briefcase filled with bearer bonds.

but, imo, (and i'm not feeling all that savvy about race relations right now, okay?) wearing shackles is never really going to be a good thing eh? i mean....? it might make things worse, imo, and here's specifically why:

racist white folk will laugh their asses off at black folk caught wearing them. how silly? voluntarily embracing a hated symbol??

and black folk who hate the man might feel the chafe of those things (they look uncomfortable)and recall an ancestral memory of severe oppression, which would bring that anger into the right here right now.

besides, they look like when the wearer's foot flexes, the shackle will tug and pull (even though it's foam) the lower leg. it's just a bad design all around imo

[Edited 6/19/12 16:51pm]

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Reply #4 posted 06/19/12 8:29pm

2elijah

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It's just an ugly ass sneaker period. lol The designer must have been bored. Looks like oversized, gawdy jewelry got caught in the sneaker.

Rest in Power Elijah Cummings. Thank you for your fight for human rights/justice. Your legacy will never die in vain.
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Reply #5 posted 06/19/12 9:55pm

vainandy

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2elijah said:

It's just an ugly ass sneaker period. lol The designer must have been bored. Looks like oversized, gawdy jewelry got caught in the sneaker.

Looks like some God awful multicolored clown shoes even without the chains. lol

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Reply #6 posted 06/20/12 12:16am

rialb

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They seem terribly impractical and look like they would not be very uncomfortable.

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Reply #7 posted 06/20/12 4:49am

SquirrelMeat

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lol America looking for racism in everything again!

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Reply #8 posted 06/20/12 6:17am

2elijah

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vainandy said:

2elijah said:

It's just an ugly ass sneaker period. lol The designer must have been bored. Looks like oversized, gawdy jewelry got caught in the sneaker.

Looks like some God awful multicolored clown shoes even without the chains. lol

falloff Especially the back heel of the sneaker. Just bad taste, and Adidas approved them, that's what's funny.

[Edited 6/20/12 6:19am]

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Reply #9 posted 06/20/12 6:51am

Graycap23

SquirrelMeat said:

lol America looking for racism in everything again!

Cause we all know................it doesn't exist.

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Reply #10 posted 06/20/12 9:08am

XxAxX

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Graycap23 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

lol America looking for racism in everything again!

Cause we all know................it doesn't exist.

sure it does. see my thread on modern day slavery.

[Edited 6/20/12 16:41pm]

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Reply #11 posted 06/20/12 9:26am

imago

2elijah said:

It's just an ugly ass sneaker period. lol The designer must have been bored. Looks like oversized, gawdy jewelry got caught in the sneaker.

When I read the title Stylish Shoe, I was NOT expect that! falloff

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Reply #12 posted 06/20/12 9:41am

SquirrelMeat

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Graycap23 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

lol America looking for racism in everything again!

Cause we all know................it doesn't exist.

Of course it does. It just doesn't apply to every sneaker, every pop video, every statement etc etc.

Thats just paranoia.

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Reply #13 posted 06/20/12 9:43am

Graycap23

SquirrelMeat said:

Graycap23 said:

Cause we all know................it doesn't exist.

Of course it does. It just doesn't apply to every sneaker, every pop video, every statement etc etc.

Thats just paranoia.

I see that same attitude 2 stuff that is important and where it does apply.

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Reply #14 posted 06/20/12 9:45am

Graycap23

SquirrelMeat said:

Graycap23 said:

Cause we all know................it doesn't exist.

Of course it does. It just doesn't apply to every sneaker, every pop video, every statement etc etc.

Thats just paranoia.

I'll bet cash money if these shoes referenced the Holocaust in any way shape or form the response would be completely different.

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Reply #15 posted 06/20/12 10:04am

Empress

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lol America looking for racism in everything again!

Yes, American usually does. And your key word is everything.

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Reply #16 posted 06/20/12 10:09am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Graycap23 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Of course it does. It just doesn't apply to every sneaker, every pop video, every statement etc etc.

Thats just paranoia.

I'll bet cash money if these shoes referenced the Holocaust in any way shape or form the response would be completely different.

could be. but the people in the Holocaust wore shackles too. they were put in work camps as well as murdered in mass.

So they do in a way, intended or not, refer to all forms of being chained up. slavery, prison, death camps....

oh and i have noticed many teens and young adults with those ankle monitors on them and many have gone out of their way to draw attention to them as a status symbol.

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Reply #17 posted 06/20/12 10:30am

babynoz

I had already made a thread about this, but whatever... confuse

Actually, as this article points out, this isn't the first time there has been public backlash about a particular product being seen as offensive so let's not pretend it's just paranoia from a certain group of people.


adidas Tuesday: no comment on shackle shoes
6:24 PM, June 19, 2012


A new shoe by adidas is drawing some fire for including shackles. Many believe that the shackles invoke slavery. / Courtesy of adidas Facebook page
USA Today
By Michael Hiestand, USA TODAY


Tuesday, adidas spokeswoman Lauren Lamkin declined to comment further on a new sneaker that adidas had publicly backed Monday afternoon -- but sacked by Monday night.

The adidas JS Roundhouse Mid sneakers, which adidas recently posted on Facebook, were two months from being released. But even if adidas never mentions them again, they've already joined the marketing gaffe hall of fame.

Since adidas says it markets about 47,000 products, occasional errors seem understandable. But to many, the cancelled shoes appear to have shackles -- reminiscent of slavery or prisons -- attached with chain-like links.

And that wave of criticism Monday, says David Carter, a Los Angeles-based sports business consultant, suggests online and social media might have helped adidas.

"I was immediately aware that adidas has been caught flat-footed," says Carter. "And I was amazed that this could have gotten through so many levels and checks and balances at adidas."

But in the pre-Internet era, he suggests, things would have been worse for adidas: "Then, there might have been a picture in a newspaper or magazine but the shoes probably would have gotten in stores. And adidas would have been stuck with massive inventory and had big ad dollars invested."

But, back then, could the shoes have ended up being a hit?

"Maybe," says Carter. "Or the shoes could have created even more damage for adidas as being tone-deaf."

Fashion designer Jeremy Scott created the controversial shoes but said, in a statement sent to the Associated Press: "my work has always been inspired by cartoons, toys and my childhood." With the Roundhouse Mids, he said he was inspired by My Pet Monster, a plush toy introduced in 1986 that had blue fur and horns and sported orange plastic handcuffs.

Other famous sneaker gaffes included Nike pulling Black and Tan shoes when the company was alerted that moniker referred to British paramilitary groups that terrorized Irish people in the 1920s. And Umbro apologized and pulled the Zyklon branded shoes in 2002 -- while Zyklon is German for cyclone it also was the name of a fatal gas that Nazis used in concentration camps. Also in 2002, Converse drew criticism for sneakers called Loaded Weapons.

But great marketing gaffes go beyond sports.

Coors once used a "Turn It Loose" slogan whose initial translation into Spanish amounted to "Get Diarrhea" while KFC's "Finger Lickin' Good" slogan, in an initial translation for use in China, came out like this: "Eat Your Fingers Off."



Copyright 2012 USATODAY.com





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Reply #18 posted 06/20/12 10:35am

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SquirrelMeat said:

lol America looking for racism in everything again!

Maybe there weren't going for the slave look afterall. Since shit hop still rules and it idolizes criminals, maybe they were aiming towards that crowd. They could wear the chains with the sagging pants and have the complete prison convict look they idolize so much. lol I can see some of those idiots wearing those shoes and not having the good sense to know that chains were used for slaves also. They're not too bright for idolizing criminals anyway so I wouldn't be surprised if they embraced those shoes. lol

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Reply #19 posted 06/20/12 10:40am

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2elijah said:

vainandy said:

Looks like some God awful multicolored clown shoes even without the chains. lol

falloff Especially the back heel of the sneaker. Just bad taste, and Adidas approved them, that's what's funny.

[Edited 6/20/12 6:19am]

I have always hated sneakers, even back in the day when they didn't look near as gawdy as they do nowadays. When I do buy some, I buy solid black leather ones that look as little like a sneaker as possible. I want something to make my foot look smaller, not bigger so I never even liked the white ones such as Nike back in the day because white drew attention to your feet. But all these multi colors these days, they don't match anything you have on and look like something Bozo the Clown would wear. lol

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #20 posted 06/20/12 10:41am

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XxAxX said:

Graycap23 said:

Stylish shoe or symbol of slavery?

(Adidas)

(Adidas)

After first defending the design of a new line of sneakers against accusations of racism, Adidas announced Tuesday it would pull its JS Roundhouse Mid shoe from production.

Adidas made the move after critics of the sneaker, which features plastic orange chains and a cuff that strapped around the ankle, said the straps resembled shackles – an image reminiscent of slavery.

In brushing off critics, Adidas said in a statement that the shoe was the ‘outrageous and unique take on fashion’ by noted fashion designer Jeremy Scott.

The shoe, which was going to sell for $350 a pair, was previewed months ago and generated little chatter until Adidas recently started promoting it on its Facebook page.

http://blogs.ajc.com/business-beat/2012/06/19/stylish-shoe-or-symbol-of-slavery/?cxntlid=thbz_hm

i think adidas is trying to make the point that Adidas shoes are so precious to the wearer that said wearer must attach the shoes to their body, like a courier handcuffed to a briefcase filled with bearer bonds.

That was my immediate thought as well.

But then, I come from a place of privilege. So of course I would.

I doubt it was the intent but when they found how it was being received they pulled it. That's the best anyone can do.

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Reply #21 posted 06/20/12 10:43am

prittypriss

As I said in the previous thread, I see these going more for the chain gang reference than a reference to slavery. Keep in mind that chain gangs often wore the black and white striped outfits, while this has a grey and white stripe pattern across the top of the shoe.

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Reply #22 posted 06/20/12 10:50am

free2bfreeda

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lol America looking for racism in everything again!

imo, this shoe does not represent "racism." it just represents slavery. there is not one racial group on the globe that does not have a history of it's people being enslaved at one time or another.

not many people realize that the irish were enslaved.

see here: The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves

link: http://www.africaresource...te-slaves/

also: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...of_slavery

so in regard to the ridiculous looking shoe, raising a rascist pov is moot-imo.

[Edited 6/20/12 10:51am]

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #23 posted 06/20/12 12:24pm

babynoz

free2bfreeda said:

SquirrelMeat said:

lol America looking for racism in everything again!

imo, this shoe does not represent "racism." it just represents slavery. there is not one racial group on the globe that does not have a history of it's people being enslaved at one time or another.

not many people realize that the irish were enslaved.

see here: The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves

link: http://www.africaresource...te-slaves/

also: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...of_slavery

so in regard to the ridiculous looking shoe, raising a rascist pov is moot-imo.

[Edited 6/20/12 10:51am]

I wouldn't go so far as to declare others pov "moot".

But I will re-iterate what I said in the other thread...

These are the days of meat dresses and satanic grammy performances. The "anything goes" crowd is really trying to outdo each other.

It's just so damn tiresome.

I mean, how far are we gonna go with this whole gimmick driven quest to be more "edgy" than the next person? It's all part of the race to the bottom mentaliy that permeates pop culture.

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Reply #24 posted 06/20/12 12:54pm

2elijah

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free2bfreeda said:

SquirrelMeat said:

lol America looking for racism in everything again!

imo, this shoe does not represent "racism." it just represents slavery. there is not one racial group on the globe that does not have a history of it's people being enslaved at one time or another.

not many people realize that the irish were enslaved.

see here: The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves

link: http://www.africaresource...te-slaves/

also: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...of_slavery

so in regard to the ridiculous looking shoe, raising a rascist pov is moot-imo.

[Edited 6/20/12 10:51am]

Oh yes, freeda, I do believe many know about 'Irish Slavery' and there has been threads posted on it but little reaction. There's a book called "To Hell or Barbados" by Sean O'Callaghan, that I posted about sometime ago in this forum. Not to take the thread off topic, but just responding to your post.

According to what is written in the history of Irish slaves In America, Irish slaves were worth less than African slaves, and many Irish children were left orphaned and begging for food in the streets. Many were tortured as well. This is well indicated in the book "To Barbados or Die". Many Irish were also forced by the English to be put on slave ships with Africans and Native Americans to work as slaves in Barbados, and many other Caribbean islands. (This is why it is not unusual today, when you listen to many Black Bejans' accents, you can hear a twist of an Irish accent.)

Anyway, back during the days of slavery, many Irish men, in order to fit in, during the time the Fugitive Slave Laws was enacted around 1850, took jobs as bounty hunters because they were denied jobs, as other Whites and seen as unequals to other Whites in America, because of their Irish ancestry. So taking a job as bounty hunters, put food on the Irish's tables and it was a way of winning the trust of European ethnic groups already living in America at the time, to try to gain their acceptance, and eventually they were pretty much embraced by European ethnic groups in America, and became part of the 'majority' so-to-speak, even though it took years for that to happen.

This is all mentioned in some part of that book "Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl" also. The author who was a former slave, mentioned how many Irish immigrants were treated as inferior among other Whites in the North, and denied jobs and equal treatment as other Whites. It wasn't really until the Fugitive Slave Law was enacted around 1850, giving several states the right to capture runaway African slaves. This was a way for Irish men, to obtain jobs, and prove their loyalty and gain the trust of other Whites.

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Rest in Power Elijah Cummings. Thank you for your fight for human rights/justice. Your legacy will never die in vain.
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babynoz said:

free2bfreeda said:

I wouldn't go so far as to declare others pov "moot".

But I will re-iterate what I said in the other thread...

These are the days of meat dresses and satanic grammy performances. The "anything goes" crowd is really trying to outdo each other.

It's just so damn tiresome.

I mean, how far are we gonna go with this whole gimmick driven quest to be more "edgy" than the next person? It's all part of the race to the bottom mentaliy that permeates pop culture.

you sound like old... like my teachers and parents in school... i bet if you think about it you heard old people saying the same kind of junk about your generation's forms of expression. the music the clothes the hair styles....

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Reply #26 posted 06/20/12 1:59pm

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Graycap23 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Of course it does. It just doesn't apply to every sneaker, every pop video, every statement etc etc.

Thats just paranoia.

I'll bet cash money if these shoes referenced the Holocaust in any way shape or form the response would be completely different.

But they don't reference anything. And if they do, I bet its , slave to Nike, not slave to black / irish / jewish etc etc.

Some Nike designer is probably sitting at his drawing board with his head in his hands thinking, " I though my concept of Ain't nobody stealing my Nikes! was great...shit!

What next? Handcuffs are a sign of slavery oppression. White bed sheets to be banned?

It feels like a larger portion of US society is simply looking for an argument in everthing. As if there life serves no purpose unless they can have a machine to fight against, or an enemy to uphold.

Of course, its only an opinion, but it seems to raise its head on the org daily.

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Reply #27 posted 06/20/12 2:21pm

babynoz

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you sound like old... like my teachers and parents in school... i bet if you think about it you heard old people saying the same kind of junk about your generation's forms of expression. the music the clothes the hair styles....

I am old...it beats the hell outta the alternative which is a dirt nap. grandpa Heckling younglings is part of the fun, biggrin

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Reply #28 posted 06/20/12 2:26pm

babynoz

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Graycap23 said:

I'll bet cash money if these shoes referenced the Holocaust in any way shape or form the response would be completely different.

But they don't reference anything. And if they do, I bet its , slave to Nike, not slave to black / irish / jewish etc etc.

Some Nike designer is probably sitting at his drawing board with his head in his hands thinking, " I though my concept of Ain't nobody stealing my Nikes! was great...shit!

What next? Handcuffs are a sign of slavery oppression. White bed sheets to be banned?

It feels like a larger portion of US society is simply looking for an argument in everthing. As if there life serves no purpose unless they can have a machine to fight against, or an enemy to uphold.

Of course, its only an opinion, but it seems to raise its head on the org daily.

Like I already posted, negative responses to particular products being marketed isn't unique to any one group of people. See the bolded part of my reply number 17 above.

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Reply #29 posted 06/20/12 2:30pm

morningsong

These are stupid shoes. I can't get the image out of my head of sagging pants, with these shoes on. So does one wear the ankle chains over or under pant legs? I mean what would be the point is no one can see you wearing the chains? :eyeroll:

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