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Thread started 04/26/11 4:47pm

mimric

Do u follow all Bible standards or what suits you?

Wanted to entertain some thoughts, why is it that people pick and choose what parts of the Bible they want to follow? For example I was listening to the radio and they were talking about gay marriage so this lady was for it and a guy was against it. the reason he gave was Biblical, which is fine, but when the host asked him about sex before marriage which is against the Bible he said he does it. So whats up with that? Are you for all the standards in the Bible or what suits you for the moment? Not trying to debate any particular standard, please.

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Reply #1 posted 04/26/11 5:25pm

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What surprises me is that things that ppl who use The Bible to say why they are against something like Gay Marriage, Masturbation or Sex Before Marriage cannot recite one verse or even the book that condemns it. They just say, 'its in the Bible, look it up yourself'. Lame....

Ppl are just blind. They grew up not questioning it, they were conditioned to believe this and they think its fine. Anything to get into heaven.

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Reply #2 posted 04/26/11 5:41pm

morningsong

Is this another I heard something that made me mad so let's gang up and say rude and distasteful things about a group of people I know are on here so I can feel better thread?

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Reply #3 posted 04/26/11 6:03pm

PenelopePaige

mimric said:

Wanted to entertain some thoughts, why is it that people pick and choose what parts of the Bible they want to follow? For example I was listening to the radio and they were talking about gay marriage so this lady was for it and a guy was against it. the reason he gave was Biblical, which is fine, but when the host asked him about sex before marriage which is against the Bible he said he does it. So whats up with that? Are you for all the standards in the Bible or what suits you for the moment? Not trying to debate any particular standard, please.

I've thought alot about this as well and I think alot of times people just do what and abide by what works for them. Sex before marriage is a big one that people seem to disregard or not take seriously as if God didn't REALLY mean it when he said not to have sex before or outside of marriage.

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Reply #4 posted 04/26/11 6:05pm

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morningsong said:

Is this another I heard something that made me mad so let's gang up and say rude and distasteful things about a group of people I know are on here so I can feel better thread?

be Christian and forgive it.

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Reply #5 posted 04/26/11 6:58pm

IanRG

There are standards in the Bible that are specific to the time or the circumstance and standards in the Bible that are immutable forever. Technology, improved knowledge and new covenants have replaced both the health and spiritual reasons for the food standards in the Bible and related scriptures (eg 3 Maccabees is a Jewish extra-biblical scripture that has a number of the Jewish food standards but this book is not considered scripture to any Christians)

Personally, I have no problem at all with Civil gay marriage - indeed it is a human right that should have been allowed a long time ago. I do not support the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony as being anything other than a relationship between a wife, a husband and God but there are many marriages that are not considered to be this.

As to sex outside of Holy Matrimony - Personnally I have never done this, but I do not hold it against anyone who has. Indeed, I cannot. If I accept Civil gay marriage and other marriages outside of Holy Matrimony then I cannot have a problem with these people having sex within their union. Sex between consenting adults in a non-destructive loving relationship as equals is not something that I believe that God spends a lot of time worrying about.

We need to spend less time focusing on Pharisitic adherence to rules and more time focuing on Jesus' message of love and forgiveness for all with true worship and belief in God.

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Reply #6 posted 04/26/11 7:25pm

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leviticus 19 28

Or the verse that says do not have sex with your mom. Not because that is messed up. But because it will offend your dad. So I guess if dad is dead???

Or the part when the widow gets pregnant and is put to death.
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Reply #7 posted 04/26/11 8:05pm

mimric

morningsong said:

Is this another I heard something that made me mad so let's gang up and say rude and distasteful things about a group of people I know are on here so I can feel better thread?

No, not a bait I have no interest in how sum1 feels about gay marriage or sex b4 marriage or any other standard, just if accept all or what suits u. Like sum people say stealing is wrong cuz of the Bible but they will cheat on taxes or lie to get food stamps. now u stealing and lying.

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Reply #8 posted 04/26/11 8:57pm

LayDownMisty

no Bible standards suit me just fine

people are sheep

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Reply #9 posted 04/26/11 9:08pm

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Because it's a given no one abides by all biblical Law, I think the far more important question is: On what basis does a Bible believer not do so?

* Hubris

* Moments of doubt/futility

* Weakness

* Recognition that we are not slaves to a millennia-old Law, and that Scripture itself exhorts fidelity foremost to a Godly spirit only ever approximated by that Law in the first place.

I cannot speak for others, but when I assess my own disposition, I see traces of all of these factors. I believe my personal charge is to continue, trying earnestly to dispense with each as faith would empower me, toward a perpetual adoption of the last.

The Godly spirit I'm ever moving toward, I believe, calls me to accommodate our growing knowledge of humanity, the evolving material universe, etc. (in fact, I think it drives that knowledge). So while I aspire to a faithfulness akin to that of my brethren in the first-century Near East, the logistics of that faithfulness wouldn't be static -- as context hasn't been.

Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #10 posted 04/26/11 9:46pm

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It's impossible to adhere to the former and not be a sociopathic killer. That goes for the other Abrahamic religions too.



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Reply #11 posted 04/27/11 9:26am

morningsong

mimric said:

morningsong said:

Is this another I heard something that made me mad so let's gang up and say rude and distasteful things about a group of people I know are on here so I can feel better thread?

No, not a bait I have no interest in how sum1 feels about gay marriage or sex b4 marriage or any other standard, just if accept all or what suits u. Like sum people say stealing is wrong cuz of the Bible but they will cheat on taxes or lie to get food stamps. now u stealing and lying.

Okay, I not sure where there is a debate in that, but okay.

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Reply #12 posted 04/27/11 10:54am

seekingtruth

mimric said:

Wanted to entertain some thoughts, why is it that people pick and choose what parts of the Bible they want to follow? For example I was listening to the radio and they were talking about gay marriage so this lady was for it and a guy was against it. the reason he gave was Biblical, which is fine, but when the host asked him about sex before marriage which is against the Bible he said he does it. So whats up with that? Are you for all the standards in the Bible or what suits you for the moment? Not trying to debate any particular standard, please.

I think that total watering down of scripture removes it's power. If it cannot change me, then what good is it?

If I am merely going to adapt scripture to meet my lifestyle instead of the opposite, then I have disabled any ability for it to have an impact.

There have been times that trying to implement scripture into my life has been difficult, because it required change......on all counts, that change has represented a positive move in my life.

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Reply #13 posted 04/27/11 10:55am

seekingtruth

Another thing.....

The partial practice of the scripture has what has blinded the traditionalists in the church, and disallowed "seekers" (those trying to experience God) from having a true experience.

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Reply #14 posted 04/27/11 6:41pm

mimric

seekingtruth said:

Another thing.....

The partial practice of the scripture has what has blinded the traditionalists in the church, and disallowed "seekers" (those trying to experience God) from having a true experience.

I agree, no1 is going to follow perfectly we a make mistakes and fall short as the bible says. but where the problem comes in is when people & religious leaders hypocritically apply scripture. Mostly as a way to control others but won't follow themselves or as stated follow what they feel like following to sumhow seem "righteous". That has turned many off to religion.

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Reply #15 posted 04/30/11 3:12pm

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I think the question is... do u follow Bible" principles" (that are everlasting) or to the" laws " (that are changeable).??

feasible to say laws change with time & cultures now as much as in the past

Principles though...... preside behind the laws and are greater than the laws & are Eternal & therefore beneficial to the entire human family

But who sets the "standard" ? for Bible standards.... Biblically speaking God...

& to which standard do you refer...? the principle or the law? which law? Mosaic Law or Christ's Law? Jesus's teachings are of the principles behind the law

with all that in balance... then therefore, questionably & ultimately.... do you adhere to what suits you or to what suits mankind & it's social, spiritual infrastructure as a whole?

good question!

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[Edited 4/30/11 15:16pm]

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