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Are their any other Jehovah's Witnesses on Prince.Org?

Are their any other Jehovah's Witnesses on Prince.Org?
If so I would love to chat with you hug grouphug
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Reply #1 posted 09/10/10 12:06pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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oh

lord

You must be new round these parts lol

2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #2 posted 09/10/10 2:08pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

oh

lord

You must be new round these parts lol

lol

Yes, there are many, although I haven't read many posts from them lately. hmmm

Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are Discouraged From Using the Internet


Written by Jeffrey Byrge

Friday, 29 January 2010 11:33


At a recent series of Circuit Assemblies, the Governing Body put out warnings on what in their view is the latest danger from Satan, designed to break the faith of Jehovah's Witnesses everywhere.

Facebook.

Yes, thats right, apparantly, the GB is concerned because a lot of people are having "Facebook sex". They are meeting old friends who aren't Jehovah's Witnesses and getting it on with whomever would willingly sleep with them. Evidentally, the GB would like their flock to believe that when JW's get on Facebook and other social networking sites, fornication happens.

Now, this IS news. Because most people who are on Facebook, or Twitter, or other social networds, are clearly not having sex, as evidenced by the fact that they are actually typing status updates or playing games like Farmville.

This was used as more "evidence" that really, because the internet is of "the world that is controlled by Satan", JW's are really better off staying away, limiting their own use of the internet. Because too much use could only weaken their faith.

So why would the Governing Body lie about this?

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Reply #3 posted 09/10/10 2:41pm

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noimageatall said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

oh

lord

You must be new round these parts lol

lol

Yes, there are many, although I haven't read many posts from them lately. hmmm

Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are Discouraged From Using the Internet


Written by Jeffrey Byrge

Friday, 29 January 2010 11:33


At a recent series of Circuit Assemblies, the Governing Body put out warnings on what in their view is the latest danger from Satan, designed to break the faith of Jehovah's Witnesses everywhere.

Facebook.

Yes, thats right, apparantly, the GB is concerned because a lot of people are having "Facebook sex". They are meeting old friends who aren't Jehovah's Witnesses and getting it on with whomever would willingly sleep with them. Evidentally, the GB would like their flock to believe that when JW's get on Facebook and other social networking sites, fornication happens.

Now, this IS news. Because most people who are on Facebook, or Twitter, or other social networds, are clearly not having sex, as evidenced by the fact that they are actually typing status updates or playing games like Farmville.

This was used as more "evidence" that really, because the internet is of "the world that is controlled by Satan", JW's are really better off staying away, limiting their own use of the internet. Because too much use could only weaken their faith.

So why would the Governing Body lie about this?

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Reply #4 posted 09/10/10 2:50pm

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noimageatall said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

oh

lord

You must be new round these parts lol

lol

Yes, there are many, although I haven't read many posts from them lately. hmmm

Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are Discouraged From Using the Internet


Written by Jeffrey Byrge

Friday, 29 January 2010 11:33


At a recent series of Circuit Assemblies, the Governing Body put out warnings on what in their view is the latest danger from Satan, designed to break the faith of Jehovah's Witnesses everywhere.

Facebook.

Yes, thats right, apparantly, the GB is concerned because a lot of people are having "Facebook sex". They are meeting old friends who aren't Jehovah's Witnesses and getting it on with whomever would willingly sleep with them. Evidentally, the GB would like their flock to believe that when JW's get on Facebook and other social networking sites, fornication happens.

Now, this IS news. Because most people who are on Facebook, or Twitter, or other social networds, are clearly not having sex, as evidenced by the fact that they are actually typing status updates or playing games like Farmville.

This was used as more "evidence" that really, because the internet is of "the world that is controlled by Satan", JW's are really better off staying away, limiting their own use of the internet. Because too much use could only weaken their faith.

So why would the Governing Body lie about this?

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Reply #5 posted 09/10/10 3:04pm

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lol

rolleyes oh, please . . . talk to the hand please don't believe that mess. confused the lies are coming from that article.

i read this board every day, several times a day (among other sites). there just has not been much i've felt like commenting on.

Go to the source: http://www.jw.org/en

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Reply #6 posted 09/10/10 3:46pm

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You know, I'm still friends with many Jehovah's Witnesses. Hard as that may be to believe. rolleyes And my niece still goes to the meetings and assemblies. I got the email from someone who was there and heard it first hand--this is what she wrote me...

There was talk on the CA [circuit assembly] yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of Jehovah to delete their FB accounts. The talk was solely about FB. The speaker mentioned that JWs are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative. Many JWs are FB "friends" with persons that are DF'd or that have taken a stand against Jehovah and his organization.

He mentioned that JWs are posting inappropriate pictures of themselves in addition to joining "Watchtower" groups that are not sponored by the organization. He repeated several times that the organization does not have a FB account nor does it have any approved groups on FB. That many of such groups are actually created by apostates with the aim of having one began to doubt their faith. Then he mentioned that all it takes is a crack in your faith and they can take you out of God's organization into Satan's organization. Some use it to get a taste of the world but everything you need to know about the world, good and bad is in the bible, you don't need FB for that.

Then he mentioned how many are involved in serious sins but don't realize it because its all "online". Then he stated very deliberately that Facebook sex is not for true servants of Jehovah. Then went on to explain that in some cases that chatting across FB sex groups were not enough for some and that some had went on to arrange secret rendevous and this was occuring among single, married, young, old and sadly even those in positions of responsibility within the congregation.

Mentioned how some say they are selective about who they approve to be their FB "friends". Speaker said no need to be selective if you simply delete your account. Reminded everyone of the need to get and stay close to Jehovah's organization and that you have all the friends you need in the worldwide brotherhood.

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Reply #7 posted 09/10/10 3:49pm

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noimageatall said:

You know, I'm still friends with many Jehovah's Witnesses. Hard as that may be to believe. rolleyes And my niece still goes to the meetings and assemblies. I got the email from someone who was there and heard it first hand--this is what she wrote me...

There was talk on the CA [circuit assembly] yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of Jehovah to delete their FB accounts. The talk was solely about FB. The speaker mentioned that JWs are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative. Many JWs are FB "friends" with persons that are DF'd or that have taken a stand against Jehovah and his organization.

He mentioned that JWs are posting inappropriate pictures of themselves in addition to joining "Watchtower" groups that are not sponored by the organization. He repeated several times that the organization does not have a FB account nor does it have any approved groups on FB. That many of such groups are actually created by apostates with the aim of having one began to doubt their faith. Then he mentioned that all it takes is a crack in your faith and they can take you out of God's organization into Satan's organization. Some use it to get a taste of the world but everything you need to know about the world, good and bad is in the bible, you don't need FB for that.

Then he mentioned how many are involved in serious sins but don't realize it because its all "online". Then he stated very deliberately that Facebook sex is not for true servants of Jehovah. Then went on to explain that in some cases that chatting across FB sex groups were not enough for some and that some had went on to arrange secret rendevous and this was occuring among single, married, young, old and sadly even those in positions of responsibility within the congregation.

Mentioned how some say they are selective about who they approve to be their FB "friends". Speaker said no need to be selective if you simply delete your account. Reminded everyone of the need to get and stay close to Jehovah's organization and that you have all the friends you need in the worldwide brotherhood.

the level of mind-control is crazy. what weaklings and what a weak faith that cannot sustain itself among the real world.

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[Edited 9/10/10 15:50pm]

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Reply #8 posted 09/10/10 4:39pm

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I don't care where somebody got their second-hand information. confused

That is NOT what was said at the assemblies this year; I was personally at one.

Only that caution and discretion is strongly recommended (and rightfully so) regarding any online social interaction, especially for vulnerable young people. Perhaps the speaker was emphasizing problems peculiar to the area he was speaking; that's another matter and should be taken as such.

But you'll find nothing in any Watchtower publications condemning the internet nor any particular website.

If any here choose to believe their own opinions about my religion rather than the facts as I've described them, that's on them. But the real weakness is leaning on hearsay and rumor rather accepting the truth about a situation. shrug

Go to the source: http://www.jw.org/en

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Reply #9 posted 09/10/10 4:56pm

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noimageatall said:

You know, I'm still friends with many Jehovah's Witnesses. Hard as that may be to believe. rolleyes And my niece still goes to the meetings and assemblies. I got the email from someone who was there and heard it first hand--this is what she wrote me...

There was talk on the CA [circuit assembly] yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of Jehovah to delete their FB accounts. The talk was solely about FB. The speaker mentioned that JWs are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative. Many JWs are FB "friends" with persons that are DF'd or that have taken a stand against Jehovah and his organization.

He mentioned that JWs are posting inappropriate pictures of themselves in addition to joining "Watchtower" groups that are not sponored by the organization. He repeated several times that the organization does not have a FB account nor does it have any approved groups on FB. That many of such groups are actually created by apostates with the aim of having one began to doubt their faith. Then he mentioned that all it takes is a crack in your faith and they can take you out of God's organization into Satan's organization. Some use it to get a taste of the world but everything you need to know about the world, good and bad is in the bible, you don't need FB for that.

Then he mentioned how many are involved in serious sins but don't realize it because its all "online". Then he stated very deliberately that Facebook sex is not for true servants of Jehovah. Then went on to explain that in some cases that chatting across FB sex groups were not enough for some and that some had went on to arrange secret rendevous and this was occuring among single, married, young, old and sadly even those in positions of responsibility within the congregation.

Mentioned how some say they are selective about who they approve to be their FB "friends". Speaker said no need to be selective if you simply delete your account. Reminded everyone of the need to get and stay close to Jehovah's organization and that you have all the friends you need in the worldwide brotherhood.

Deleting their FB accounts won't prevent them from interacting with the general public, that they are surrounded by on a daily basis. So I don't see the point. I mean they can't snap theirr fingers and make everyone around them in society invisible who are not witnesses. lol

I see JWs everyday offering the Watchtower to people passing by. One of my neighbors is a JW, and I've known her and her husband for 10 years, and we stop and have small talk and then go about our business, but they have never tried to force any of their reading material or religion on me. I guess it depends on the individual JW. I open my door for them sometimes, and politely take the material, but tell them I don't have time to discuss anything with them at the moment, and they just say thank you and go on their way.

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Reply #10 posted 09/10/10 5:53pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

oh

lord

You must be new round these parts lol

No I'm not new around here are you? lol
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Reply #11 posted 09/10/10 6:09pm

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noimageatall said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

oh

lord

You must be new round these parts lol

lol

Yes, there are many, although I haven't read many posts from them lately. hmmm

Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are Discouraged From Using the Internet


Written by Jeffrey Byrge

Friday, 29 January 2010 11:33


At a recent series of Circuit Assemblies, the Governing Body put out warnings on what in their view is the latest danger from Satan, designed to break the faith of Jehovah's Witnesses everywhere.

Facebook.

Yes, thats right, apparantly, the GB is concerned because a lot of people are having "Facebook sex". They are meeting old friends who aren't Jehovah's Witnesses and getting it on with whomever would willingly sleep with them. Evidentally, the GB would like their flock to believe that when JW's get on Facebook and other social networking sites, fornication happens.

Now, this IS news. Because most people who are on Facebook, or Twitter, or other social networds, are clearly not having sex, as evidenced by the fact that they are actually typing status updates or playing games like Farmville.

This was used as more "evidence" that really, because the internet is of "the world that is controlled by Satan", JW's are really better off staying away, limiting their own use of the internet. Because too much use could only weaken their faith.

So why would the Governing Body lie about this?

I notice that last year several JW would post often. I haven't read anything from any JW lately.

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Reply #12 posted 09/10/10 6:12pm

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Uhope said:

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rolleyes oh, please . . . talk to the hand please don't believe that mess. confused the lies are coming from that article.

i read this board every day, several times a day (among other sites). there just has not been much i've felt like commenting on.

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noimageatall said:

You know, I'm still friends with many Jehovah's Witnesses. Hard as that may be to believe. rolleyes And my niece still goes to the meetings and assemblies. I got the email from someone who was there and heard it first hand--this is what she wrote me...

There was talk on the CA [circuit assembly] yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of Jehovah to delete their FB accounts. The talk was solely about FB. The speaker mentioned that JWs are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative. Many JWs are FB "friends" with persons that are DF'd or that have taken a stand against Jehovah and his organization.

He mentioned that JWs are posting inappropriate pictures of themselves in addition to joining "Watchtower" groups that are not sponored by the organization. He repeated several times that the organization does not have a FB account nor does it have any approved groups on FB. That many of such groups are actually created by apostates with the aim of having one began to doubt their faith. Then he mentioned that all it takes is a crack in your faith and they can take you out of God's organization into Satan's organization. Some use it to get a taste of the world but everything you need to know about the world, good and bad is in the bible, you don't need FB for that.

Then he mentioned how many are involved in serious sins but don't realize it because its all "online". Then he stated very deliberately that Facebook sex is not for true servants of Jehovah. Then went on to explain that in some cases that chatting across FB sex groups were not enough for some and that some had went on to arrange secret rendevous and this was occuring among single, married, young, old and sadly even those in positions of responsibility within the congregation.

Mentioned how some say they are selective about who they approve to be their FB "friends". Speaker said no need to be selective if you simply delete your account. Reminded everyone of the need to get and stay close to Jehovah's organization and that you have all the friends you need in the worldwide brotherhood.

We have to be careful you never know who you are talking to
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ladychel61 said:

noimageatall said:

You know, I'm still friends with many Jehovah's Witnesses. Hard as that may be to believe. rolleyes And my niece still goes to the meetings and assemblies. I got the email from someone who was there and heard it first hand--this is what she wrote me...

We have to be careful you never know who you are talking to

Yeah, I could be an apostate. lol

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Reply #15 posted 09/10/10 8:11pm

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lord

You must be new round these parts lol

She ain't new, but she is like a puppy who hasn't opened its eyes yet.

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2elijah said:

noimageatall said:

You know, I'm still friends with many Jehovah's Witnesses. Hard as that may be to believe. rolleyes And my niece still goes to the meetings and assemblies. I got the email from someone who was there and heard it first hand--this is what she wrote me...

Deleting their FB accounts won't prevent them from interacting with the general public, that they are surrounded by on a daily basis. So I don't see the point. I mean they can't snap theirr fingers and make everyone around them in society invisible who are not witnesses. lol

I see JWs everyday offering the Watchtower to people passing by. One of my neighbors is a JW, and I've known her and her husband for 10 years, and we stop and have small talk and then go about our business, but they have never tried to force any of their reading material or religion on me. I guess it depends on the individual JW. I open my door for them sometimes, and politely take the material, but tell them I don't have time to discuss anything with them at the moment, and they just say thank you and go on their way.

grouphug hug

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Reply #17 posted 09/10/10 8:18pm

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ernestsewell said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

oh

lord

You must be new round these parts lol

She ain't new, but she is like a puppy who hasn't opened its eyes yet.

Hey how are you doing lol batting eyes hug

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Reply #18 posted 09/10/10 8:21pm

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ladychel61 said:

2elijah said:

Deleting their FB accounts won't prevent them from interacting with the general public, that they are surrounded by on a daily basis. So I don't see the point. I mean they can't snap theirr fingers and make everyone around them in society invisible who are not witnesses. lol

I see JWs everyday offering the Watchtower to people passing by. One of my neighbors is a JW, and I've known her and her husband for 10 years, and we stop and have small talk and then go about our business, but they have never tried to force any of their reading material or religion on me. I guess it depends on the individual JW. I open my door for them sometimes, and politely take the material, but tell them I don't have time to discuss anything with them at the moment, and they just say thank you and go on their way.

grouphug hug

Hey don't get comfy now, lol j/k, although I take their material, it is only because I don't find any need to disrespect them for trying. I just don't like it when one takes on an elitist attitude and think their religion is better than someone else's or that theirs is the "truth" and everyone else could go potty somewhere. Also, don't like what I've been hearing about JWs dissassociating themselves from those who have been disfellowshipped, even if it's family members. I can't see someone brainwashing me to give up my family members over a religion, not a good thing. I also wasn't being rude towards noimageatall since she is an ex-jw and has had her own experience with that faith. I studied it at around age 10-11, but was not committed to it. Especially someone like me who has always been very outspoken, and don't like restrictions put on me, and I feel that's how the jw religion is. Just not for me.

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noimageatall said:

ladychel61 said:

We have to be careful you never know who you are talking to

Yeah, I could be an apostate. lol

It came out of your mouth, beg pray

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2elijah said:

ladychel61 said:

grouphug hug

Hey don't get comfy now, lol j/k, although I take their material, it is only because I don't find any need to disrespect them for trying. I just don't like it when one takes on an elitist attitude and think their religion is better than someone else's or that theirs is the "truth" and everyone else could go potty somewhere. Also, don't like what I've been hearing about JWs dissassociating themselves from those who have been disfellowshipped, even if it's family members. I can't see someone brainwashing me to give up my family members over a religion, not a good thing. I also wasn't being rude towards noimageatall since she is an ex-jw and has had her own experience with that faith. I studied it at around age 10-11, but was not committed to it. Especially someone like me who has always been very outspoken, and don't like restrictions put on me, and I feel that's how the jw religion is. Just not for me.

[Edited 9/10/10 20:43pm]

Only showing some love:lol: hug

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ladychel61 said:

2elijah said:

Hey don't get comfy now, lol j/k, although I take their material, it is only because I don't find any need to disrespect them for trying. I just don't like it when one takes on an elitist attitude and think their religion is better than someone else's or that theirs is the "truth" and everyone else could go potty somewhere. Also, don't like what I've been hearing about JWs dissassociating themselves from those who have been disfellowshipped, even if it's family members. I can't see someone brainwashing me to give up my family members over a religion, not a good thing. I also wasn't being rude towards noimageatall since she is an ex-jw and has had her own experience with that faith. I studied it at around age 10-11, but was not committed to it. Especially someone like me who has always been very outspoken, and don't like restrictions put on me, and I feel that's how the jw religion is. Just not for me.

[Edited 9/10/10 20:43pm]

Only showing some love:lol: hug

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lol

2elijah said:

ladychel61 said:

Only showing some love:lol: hug

cool

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Reply #23 posted 09/12/10 10:50am

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I am a Witness, but choose not to participate in this board as much as I used to a while ago. I do come on every now and then and read stuff and I may post once in a great while.

I too believe that the internet can be a dangerous place for any Christian who wants to please God. Nobody is immune to wrongdoing as we are all imperfect. We've just got to be careful both online and offline.

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If one's faith is strong, they wouldn't let the internet stand in the way of their beliefs or others' opinions about their faith, just like one who is true to their faith, doesn't allow people on the outside of the net, stray them in a direction they choose not to walk in.

Leaves one to question how really strong is their faith if they feel threatened by opinions/behaviors of others (non-JWs or other Christians) on social networks. I would think they would see those with a lifestyle, faith different from theirs, and difference of opinion(s) on various, societal/worldly topics, as a challenge to the strength of their own faith. JWs use the internet to promote their religion and obtain new members, and they can't presume those new members come without faults and negative behavior. As those they invite to their website, can't be seen through the computer screen, no more than many folks on facebook or any other social network.

If people stopped posting on the internet, it won't change how they feel about society or the world for that matter. More than likely their opinions still exists whether off or on the internet. Yes one has the right to choose what they don't want to read or expose themselves to, but no one puts a gun to JWs' heads and forces them to participate on the internet. Negative and positive comments/opinions/behaviors will continue to exist on or off the net. JWs need to understand that the internet is not solely responsible for the ills of society or the world. and by shutting themseleves away from it, that situations like societal ills, negative opinions/behaviors will somehow cease to exist. Whether they choose to participate on social networks is their individual/personal choice, but opposing opinions, negative behaviors, and other social ills in the world, will still exist.



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Reply #25 posted 09/12/10 11:46am

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2elijah said:

If one's faith is strong, they wouldn't let the internet stand in the way of their beliefs or others' opinions about their faith, just like one who is true to their faith, doesn't allow people on the outside of the net, stray them in a direction they choose not to walk in.

Leaves one to question how really strong is their faith if they feel threatened by opinions/behaviors of others (non-JWs or other Christians) on social networks. I would think they would see those with a lifestyle, faith different from theirs, and difference of opinion(s) on various, societal/worldly topics, as a challenge to the strength of their own faith. JWs use the internet to promote their religion and obtain new members, and they can't presume those new members come without faults and negative behavior. As those they invite to their website, can't be seen through the computer screen, no more than many folks on facebook or any other social network.

If people stopped posting on the internet, it won't change how they feel about society or the world for that matter. More than likely their opinions still exists whether off or on the internet. Yes one has the right to choose what they don't want to read or expose themselves to, but no one puts a gun to JWs' heads and forces them to participate on the internet. Negative and positive comments/opinions/behaviors will continue to exist on or off the net. JWs need to understand that the internet is not solely responsible for the ills of society or the world. and by shutting themseleves away from it, that situations like societal ills, negative opinions/behaviors will somehow cease to exist. Whether they choose to participate on social networks is their individual/personal choice, but opposing opinions, negative behaviors, and other social ills in the world, will still exist.



[Edited 9/12/10 11:17am]

Of course not, but it is a door that can lead to depravity,

porn for example, and that can be damaging to a person's spirituality.

There are also predators who use the internet as a tool who lure unsuspecting young ones or vulnerable, lonely women away from anyone that knows them,

and to meet up with, kidnap, and hold them against their will for their evil reasons.

Then there are examples where some have stalked and harrassed persons on social websites,

there is that one example where the woman pretended to be a boy who was interested in this teenage girl

and then all of a sudden wickedly started to verbally abuse her and drove her to suicide.

You never know who you are talking to.

These are some of the dangers that the internet can invite into a person's home.

The internet is a tool, it has it's good uses, and it's bad, the warning is to watch out for the harmfulness of it.

Wouldn't you warn your children or those who you care about of the dangers of the internet to keep them safe from harm?

[Edited 9/12/10 11:52am]

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Reply #26 posted 09/12/10 12:30pm

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wildgoldenhoney said:

2elijah said:

If one's faith is strong, they wouldn't let the internet stand in the way of their beliefs or others' opinions about their faith, just like one who is true to their faith, doesn't allow people on the outside of the net, stray them in a direction they choose not to walk in.

Leaves one to question how really strong is their faith if they feel threatened by opinions/behaviors of others (non-JWs or other Christians) on social networks. I would think they would see those with a lifestyle, faith different from theirs, and difference of opinion(s) on various, societal/worldly topics, as a challenge to the strength of their own faith. JWs use the internet to promote their religion and obtain new members, and they can't presume those new members come without faults and negative behavior. As those they invite to their website, can't be seen through the computer screen, no more than many folks on facebook or any other social network.

If people stopped posting on the internet, it won't change how they feel about society or the world for that matter. More than likely their opinions still exists whether off or on the internet. Yes one has the right to choose what they don't want to read or expose themselves to, but no one puts a gun to JWs' heads and forces them to participate on the internet. Negative and positive comments/opinions/behaviors will continue to exist on or off the net. JWs need to understand that the internet is not solely responsible for the ills of society or the world. and by shutting themseleves away from it, that situations like societal ills, negative opinions/behaviors will somehow cease to exist. Whether they choose to participate on social networks is their individual/personal choice, but opposing opinions, negative behaviors, and other social ills in the world, will still exist.



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Of course not, but it is a door that can lead to depravity,

porn for example, and that can be damaging to a person's spirituality.

There are also predators who use the internet as a tool who lure unsuspecting young ones or vulnerable, lonely women away from anyone that knows them,

and to meet up with, kidnap, and hold them against their will for their evil reasons.

Then there are examples where some have stalked and harrassed persons on social websites,

there is that one example where the woman pretended to be a boy who was interested in this teenage girl

and then all of a sudden wickedly started to verbally abuse her and drove her to suicide.

You never know who you are talking to.

These are some of the dangers that the internet can invite into a person's home.

The internet is a tool, it has it's good uses, and it's bad, the warning is to watch out for the harmfulness of it.

Wouldn't you warn your children or those who you care about of the dangers of the internet to keep them safe from harm?

[Edited 9/12/10 11:52am]

First of all, life in itself is a tool, as it can lead to depravity, social ills and negative behavior, and you don't need the internet to know those elements of society itself, exists or can stray one from their faith or into the wrong path in life. That was my point. Good/negative behavior exists on or off the internet, so the same teachings of "being careful, protecting loved ones and child(ren)"are already lessons that should be taught whether one is socializing on or off the internet. I mean protecting our loved ones/child(ren) from specific elements goes without question. In general, we have to always be careful of people we meet and who are children are exposed to. Not to mention that JWs are not exempt from people existing within their organization, whose behavior is "questionable". One's religion does not prevent one from displaying, expressing or practicing questionable behavior.

I was also specifically referring more to typical, everyday conversations that may pose no real danger, with various/opposing views on societal/religious/political matters, and even with that, I never said one should not be careful with whom they come in contact with on the internet, in those type conversations as well, but basically stating that the internet is not solely responsible or the only form of communication, where questionable behaviors exists, such as the behaviors mentioned in your post, that one has to be careful of.

Whether JWs choose to participate on social networks or not, which is their personal choice, society as a whole, will continue to express/display their opinions/behaviors, negative or positive, through those sources of communicaton. Thanks for your input.

[Edited 9/12/10 13:21pm]

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Reply #27 posted 09/12/10 1:34pm

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ladychel61 said:

ernestsewell said:

She ain't new, but she is like a puppy who hasn't opened its eyes yet.

Hey how are you doing

Better than any JW, because I'm not part of a cult, and I know the truth.

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2elijah said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

Of course not, but it is a door that can lead to depravity,

porn for example, and that can be damaging to a person's spirituality.

There are also predators who use the internet as a tool who lure unsuspecting young ones or vulnerable, lonely women away from anyone that knows them,

and to meet up with, kidnap, and hold them against their will for their evil reasons.

Then there are examples where some have stalked and harrassed persons on social websites,

there is that one example where the woman pretended to be a boy who was interested in this teenage girl

and then all of a sudden wickedly started to verbally abuse her and drove her to suicide.

You never know who you are talking to.

These are some of the dangers that the internet can invite into a person's home.

The internet is a tool, it has it's good uses, and it's bad, the warning is to watch out for the harmfulness of it.

Wouldn't you warn your children or those who you care about of the dangers of the internet to keep them safe from harm?

[Edited 9/12/10 11:52am]

First of all, life in itself is a tool, as it can lead to depravity, social ills and negative behavior, and you don't need the internet to know those elements of society itself, exists or can stray one from their faith or into the wrong path in life. That was my point. Good/negative behavior exists on or off the internet, so the same teachings of "being careful, protecting loved ones and child(ren)"are already lessons that should be taught whether one is socializing on or off the internet. I mean protecting our loved ones/child(ren) from specific elements goes without question. In general, we have to always be careful of people we meet and who are children are exposed to. Not to mention that JWs are not exempt from people existing within their organization, whose behavior is "questionable". One's religion does not prevent one from displaying, expressing or practicing questionable behavior.

I was also specifically referring more to typical, everyday conversations that may pose no real danger, with various/opposing views on societal/religious/political matters, and even with that, I never said one should not be careful with whom they come in contact with on the internet, in those type conversations as well, but basically stating that the internet is not solely responsible or the only form of communication, where questionable behaviors exists, such as the behaviors mentioned in your post, that one has to be careful of.

Whether JWs choose to participate on social networks or not, which is their personal choice, society as a whole, will continue to express/display their opinions/behaviors, negative or positive, through those sources of communicaton. Thanks for your input.

[Edited 9/12/10 13:21pm]

I realize that you were generalizing,

but the point I'm commenting on is the view that JW's are not told to not use the internet, period,

and we are taught to be aware of the dangers and how to avoid them.

We also learn of dangers in real life.

Recently the increased talks about the dangers of the internet are in response to the changing world and technology having been introduced into people's lives,

thus the need for internet specific info/warnings.

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Reply #29 posted 09/12/10 3:41pm

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wildgoldenhoney said:

2elijah said:

First of all, life in itself is a tool, as it can lead to depravity, social ills and negative behavior, and you don't need the internet to know those elements of society itself, exists or can stray one from their faith or into the wrong path in life. That was my point. Good/negative behavior exists on or off the internet, so the same teachings of "being careful, protecting loved ones and child(ren)"are already lessons that should be taught whether one is socializing on or off the internet. I mean protecting our loved ones/child(ren) from specific elements goes without question. In general, we have to always be careful of people we meet and who are children are exposed to. Not to mention that JWs are not exempt from people existing within their organization, whose behavior is "questionable". One's religion does not prevent one from displaying, expressing or practicing questionable behavior.

I was also specifically referring more to typical, everyday conversations that may pose no real danger, with various/opposing views on societal/religious/political matters, and even with that, I never said one should not be careful with whom they come in contact with on the internet, in those type conversations as well, but basically stating that the internet is not solely responsible or the only form of communication, where questionable behaviors exists, such as the behaviors mentioned in your post, that one has to be careful of.

Whether JWs choose to participate on social networks or not, which is their personal choice, society as a whole, will continue to express/display their opinions/behaviors, negative or positive, through those sources of communicaton. Thanks for your input.

[Edited 9/12/10 13:21pm]

I realize that you were generalizing,

but the point I'm commenting on is the view that JW's are not told to not use the internet, period,

and we are taught to be aware of the dangers and how to avoid them.

We also learn of dangers in real life.

Recently the increased talks about the dangers of the internet are in response to the changing world and technology having been introduced into people's lives,

thus the need for internet specific info/warnings.

Okay, so we're somewhat on the same page, as many non-JWs, are taught the same and made aware of the dangers of the ever-changing world, on or off the internet, includingl the technology that is oontinuously introduced into their lives. thumbs up!

(then edits)

[Edited 9/12/10 16:15pm]

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