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HiinEnkelte

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Buyer's Remorse

Poll time!

So how many democrats here are experiencing buyer's remorse over their candidate this election?

many? few? anybody?
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Reply #1 posted 09/12/08 3:39pm

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None. Hillary had her chance and she wanted to Run a Republican campaign. I didn't respect her for it. Now that she's out of the way, I think that Obama should run a Republican campaign lol
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Reply #2 posted 09/12/08 3:46pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

None. Hillary had her chance and she wanted to Run a Republican campaign.


.....rrrrright. convenient narrative, in my view.

I didn't respect her for it. Now that she's out of the way, I think that Obama should run a Republican campaign lol


oh of course you do. lol

the republican made him do it. all evil and bad things done by liberals and the left...? they are only done because they have to compete with the evil repugs, and the evil ones made them do it, against their better angelic, honest, tolerant, and compassionate natures.

again, a convenient (and unfalsifiable) narrative.

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Reply #3 posted 09/12/08 4:05pm

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hmmm I guess the assignment for this weekend is to try and stir up discord.

bored
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Reply #4 posted 09/12/08 4:28pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

hmmm I guess the assignment for this weekend is to try and stir up discord.

bored

weekend? He's been at it for 20 months! wink
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Reply #5 posted 09/12/08 4:45pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

hmmm I guess the assignment for this weekend is to try and stir up discord.

bored

weekend? He's been at it for 20 months! wink


lol I know but this weekend they'll need to try and keep the discussions off the week their candidates had as much as possible. shhh
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Reply #6 posted 09/12/08 4:48pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


weekend? He's been at it for 20 months! wink


lol I know but this weekend they'll need to try and keep the discussions off the week their candidates had as much as possible. shhh

you mean like Hiding Sarah Palin in a bunker so she doesn't have to face the media? lol
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Reply #7 posted 09/12/08 4:49pm

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my only regret was not picking Hils as the VP
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Reply #8 posted 09/12/08 4:52pm

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This is ridiculous... another example of the GOP trying to turn our own thoughts against us! How many Dems wonder if the GOP is regretting their ticket this year with every passing day and passing interview.

THAT'S what I want to know...

So GOPers, do YOU regret the choices made by your party for your ticket this year?
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Reply #9 posted 09/12/08 4:55pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



lol I know but this weekend they'll need to try and keep the discussions off the week their candidates had as much as possible. shhh

you mean like Hiding Sarah Palin in a bunker so she doesn't have to face the media? lol


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Reply #10 posted 09/12/08 4:58pm

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RenHoek said:

This is ridiculous... another example of the GOP trying to turn our own thoughts against us! How many Dems wonder if the GOP is regretting their ticket this year with every passing day and passing interview.

THAT'S what I want to know...

So GOPers, do YOU regret the choices made by your party for your ticket this year?

That's the Question. Moderates made the choice for the ticket this year and rejected the religious crazies Brownback and Huckabee. They got stuck with a Religious crazy anyway. That certainly cannot feel good.
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Reply #11 posted 09/12/08 5:37pm

SynthiaRose

I'm pulling for Obama but I started having voter's remorse in summer.

During the primaries, at the voting booth, I actually hesitated, before choosing Obama.

Hillary & Bill pissed me off so during her campaign, there was no way I could vote for her.

But this summer as Obama failed to adapt his well-worn message, I became concerned. I mean it's simple survival code. Adapt to the conditions. Right now, he's still using the same message -- and McCain has stolen it and improved on it.

And his strategy of trying to be likeable really pissed me off over the summer -- he'd say one thing. If someone disagreed, he's apologize and hedge. I mean you can't please everyone all the time. There is such a thing as too much diplomacy. Like Jesse, I wanted to cut off his balls -- but they were already gone.

Now, there's all this smiling and laughing and joking and sniping. This sniping Obama is not the Obama I fell in love with. And I think the strategy will backfire. Impress me with innovative strategies to address the crises in this country.

Hillary is brilliant and she knows how to navigate stuff. Her campaign sucked and failed at first but because she can ADAPT she created a huge comeback with the whole faux-feminism angle. I'm confident that Hillary would come up with some innovative ways to address our country's dilemma. She would stay up all night as a matter of ego to do it. During the convention, I was literally sickened that she was not up there to accept the nomination of President.

I kid you not -- during the roll call, I secretly wanted a surprise steal! I wanted Hillary to get the most votes and cause a bunch of drama by hijacking the Democratic convention. That would be sooo Hillary!

But alas, she stopped the roll call. It's a travesty that she's not on the ticket. But she would have outshined him as VP. He should be her VP if I can speak honestly. And if Bill and HIlllary had not made terribly offensive remarks during her campaign -- that's the way it would be.

I am hoping Obama wins ...but I do not expect it. I mean why is a mediocre candidate like McCain tied or leading with a slight edge? That's mindboggling.

He has not adapted and strategized properly and yes I made the wrong decision. He should be learning under HIllary as her VP candidate right now and he could have run in the future.

I can only hope that political master Bill Clinton can save his ass as he begins campaigning for him in the final stretch.

Whew. I guess I really needed to confess. neutral
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Reply #12 posted 09/12/08 8:10pm

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Gosh, I just KNEW this thread was about folks who voted for Bush twice...
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Reply #13 posted 09/12/08 8:12pm

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HiinEnkelte said:

Poll time!

So how many democrats here are experiencing buyer's remorse over their candidate this election?

many? few? anybody?




Not a Democrat, but don't regret backing Obama.
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Reply #14 posted 09/12/08 8:53pm

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SynthiaRose said:

I'm pulling for Obama but I started having voter's remorse in summer.

During the primaries, at the voting booth, I actually hesitated, before choosing Obama.

Hillary & Bill pissed me off so during her campaign, there was no way I could vote for her.

But this summer as Obama failed to adapt his well-worn message, I became concerned. I mean it's simple survival code. Adapt to the conditions. Right now, he's still using the same message -- and McCain has stolen it and improved on it.

And his strategy of trying to be likeable really pissed me off over the summer -- he'd say one thing. If someone disagreed, he's apologize and hedge. I mean you can't please everyone all the time. There is such a thing as too much diplomacy. Like Jesse, I wanted to cut off his balls -- but they were already gone.

Now, there's all this smiling and laughing and joking and sniping. This sniping Obama is not the Obama I fell in love with. And I think the strategy will backfire. Impress me with innovative strategies to address the crises in this country.

Hillary is brilliant and she knows how to navigate stuff. Her campaign sucked and failed at first but because she can ADAPT she created a huge comeback with the whole faux-feminism angle. I'm confident that Hillary would come up with some innovative ways to address our country's dilemma. She would stay up all night as a matter of ego to do it. During the convention, I was literally sickened that she was not up there to accept the nomination of President.

I kid you not -- during the roll call, I secretly wanted a surprise steal! I wanted Hillary to get the most votes and cause a bunch of drama by hijacking the Democratic convention. That would be sooo Hillary!

But alas, she stopped the roll call. It's a travesty that she's not on the ticket. But she would have outshined him as VP. He should be her VP if I can speak honestly. And if Bill and HIlllary had not made terribly offensive remarks during her campaign -- that's the way it would be.

I am hoping Obama wins ...but I do not expect it. I mean why is a mediocre candidate like McCain tied or leading with a slight edge? That's mindboggling.

He has not adapted and strategized properly and yes I made the wrong decision. He should be learning under HIllary as her VP candidate right now and he could have run in the future.

I can only hope that political master Bill Clinton can save his ass as he begins campaigning for him in the final stretch.

Whew. I guess I really needed to confess. neutral



From seeing that press conference at the barry/bill lunch I don't think bill's gonna be sharing many of his skills.

He can't fake it.
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Reply #15 posted 09/12/08 9:50pm

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lazycrockett said:

SynthiaRose said:

I'm pulling for Obama but I started having voter's remorse in summer.

During the primaries, at the voting booth, I actually hesitated, before choosing Obama.

Hillary & Bill pissed me off so during her campaign, there was no way I could vote for her.

But this summer as Obama failed to adapt his well-worn message, I became concerned. I mean it's simple survival code. Adapt to the conditions. Right now, he's still using the same message -- and McCain has stolen it and improved on it.

And his strategy of trying to be likeable really pissed me off over the summer -- he'd say one thing. If someone disagreed, he's apologize and hedge. I mean you can't please everyone all the time. There is such a thing as too much diplomacy. Like Jesse, I wanted to cut off his balls -- but they were already gone.

Now, there's all this smiling and laughing and joking and sniping. This sniping Obama is not the Obama I fell in love with. And I think the strategy will backfire. Impress me with innovative strategies to address the crises in this country.

Hillary is brilliant and she knows how to navigate stuff. Her campaign sucked and failed at first but because she can ADAPT she created a huge comeback with the whole faux-feminism angle. I'm confident that Hillary would come up with some innovative ways to address our country's dilemma. She would stay up all night as a matter of ego to do it. During the convention, I was literally sickened that she was not up there to accept the nomination of President.

I kid you not -- during the roll call, I secretly wanted a surprise steal! I wanted Hillary to get the most votes and cause a bunch of drama by hijacking the Democratic convention. That would be sooo Hillary!

But alas, she stopped the roll call. It's a travesty that she's not on the ticket. But she would have outshined him as VP. He should be her VP if I can speak honestly. And if Bill and HIlllary had not made terribly offensive remarks during her campaign -- that's the way it would be.

I am hoping Obama wins ...but I do not expect it. I mean why is a mediocre candidate like McCain tied or leading with a slight edge? That's mindboggling.

He has not adapted and strategized properly and yes I made the wrong decision. He should be learning under HIllary as her VP candidate right now and he could have run in the future.

I can only hope that political master Bill Clinton can save his ass as he begins campaigning for him in the final stretch.

Whew. I guess I really needed to confess. neutral



From seeing that press conference at the barry/bill lunch I don't think bill's gonna be sharing many of his skills.

He can't fake it.


To my knowledge the press was booted out early and weren't privy to what was actually discussed between the two. When they did reemerge, Clinton had his arm around Obama's back and were all smiles, amongst chants of "YES WE CAN" from the many people that packed the street. So if you saw something that gave you any indication that Clinton wouldn't be sharing many of his skills, please...by all means...post a link.
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Reply #16 posted 09/12/08 10:43pm

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Now if you thought that was getting behind the barry wagon, then you really need to back off the kool aid.
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Reply #17 posted 09/12/08 10:48pm

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Now if you thought that was getting behind the barry wagon, then you really need to back off the kool aid.


I don't know too many people who think that the Clintons really support Obama, that's true.
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Reply #18 posted 09/13/08 3:16am

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on the understanding I am not a Democrat or get to vote in the election
I thought Obama showed a lot of promise and potentially offered a genuine attempt at voicing the left in mainstream American Politics

sadly the very qualities and influences that made him genuinely appealing seem to be the very ones first jettisoned to win the prize.


quite what this says about the candidate and the system he is trying to succeed in probably do not bear thinking about.

That the American people can even contemplate voting for whatever candidate the Republican Party stands, given the absoluter and utter CRIMINALITY of the current administration potentially means America has gone totally to the far right of the political spectrum


And that is a God Damn shame.
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Reply #19 posted 09/13/08 4:44am

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lazycrockett said:



Now if you thought that was getting behind the barry wagon, then you really need to back off the kool aid.


As I said, that part was actually before their meeting. Now do I believe Bill Clinton will be Obama's biggest supporter, no I don't. However, I do believe that Bill Clinton would very much like to redeem himself in the eyes of the African American Community...especially and he'd like to help his wife become President...eventually.

So therefore, it would no doubt be in his best interest to assist Obama in whatever capacity asked of him. He is scheduled to be on the trail campaigning for Obama, in Florida, on September 29. I do believe that qualifies as sharing his skill. How well he does that, is yet to be seen but I'm certain, he will be being watched closely and no, he can't fake it.

You really need to back off the


It's just so unbecoming of you. hmph!
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Reply #20 posted 09/13/08 5:14am

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i think BOTH Obama and McCain should serve.

combine the republican and democratic candidates.
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Reply #21 posted 09/13/08 12:55pm

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ThreadBare said:

Gosh, I just KNEW this thread was about folks who voted for Bush twice...


confuse
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Reply #22 posted 09/13/08 1:00pm

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SynthiaRose said:

I'm pulling for Obama but I started having voter's remorse in summer.

During the primaries, at the voting booth, I actually hesitated, before choosing Obama.

Hillary & Bill pissed me off so during her campaign, there was no way I could vote for her.

But this summer as Obama failed to adapt his well-worn message, I became concerned. I mean it's simple survival code. Adapt to the conditions. Right now, he's still using the same message -- and McCain has stolen it and improved on it.

And his strategy of trying to be likeable really pissed me off over the summer -- he'd say one thing. If someone disagreed, he's apologize and hedge. I mean you can't please everyone all the time. There is such a thing as too much diplomacy. Like Jesse, I wanted to cut off his balls -- but they were already gone.

Now, there's all this smiling and laughing and joking and sniping. This sniping Obama is not the Obama I fell in love with. And I think the strategy will backfire. Impress me with innovative strategies to address the crises in this country.

Hillary is brilliant and she knows how to navigate stuff. Her campaign sucked and failed at first but because she can ADAPT she created a huge comeback with the whole faux-feminism angle. I'm confident that Hillary would come up with some innovative ways to address our country's dilemma. She would stay up all night as a matter of ego to do it. During the convention, I was literally sickened that she was not up there to accept the nomination of President.

I kid you not -- during the roll call, I secretly wanted a surprise steal! I wanted Hillary to get the most votes and cause a bunch of drama by hijacking the Democratic convention. That would be sooo Hillary!

But alas, she stopped the roll call. It's a travesty that she's not on the ticket. But she would have outshined him as VP. He should be her VP if I can speak honestly. And if Bill and HIlllary had not made terribly offensive remarks during her campaign -- that's the way it would be.

I am hoping Obama wins ...but I do not expect it. I mean why is a mediocre candidate like McCain tied or leading with a slight edge? That's mindboggling.

He has not adapted and strategized properly and yes I made the wrong decision. He should be learning under HIllary as her VP candidate right now and he could have run in the future.

I can only hope that political master Bill Clinton can save his ass as he begins campaigning for him in the final stretch.

Whew. I guess I really needed to confess. neutral


wow! thanks for sharing!

i think the media certainly failed to do its job, and the DNC.
I think that if the they had done their job, then Hillary would be the democratic nominee right now.
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Reply #23 posted 09/13/08 1:12pm

Mach

XxAxX said:

i think BOTH Obama and McCain should serve.

combine the republican and democratic candidates.


My dad and I just had a talk about this the other day nod
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Reply #24 posted 09/18/08 5:52am

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HiinEnkelte said:

ThreadBare said:

Gosh, I just KNEW this thread was about folks who voted for Bush twice...


confuse

oh, come on. you know why.
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Reply #25 posted 09/18/08 5:59am

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well, at least you tried something new instead of cut-and-pasting op-ed pieces or fake stories from littlegreenfootballs.

that's good.
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Reply #26 posted 09/18/08 6:27am

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SynthiaRose said:

I'm pulling for Obama but I started having voter's remorse in summer.

During the primaries, at the voting booth, I actually hesitated, before choosing Obama.

Hillary & Bill pissed me off so during her campaign, there was no way I could vote for her.

But this summer as Obama failed to adapt his well-worn message, I became concerned. I mean it's simple survival code. Adapt to the conditions. Right now, he's still using the same message -- and McCain has stolen it and improved on it.

And his strategy of trying to be likeable really pissed me off over the summer -- he'd say one thing. If someone disagreed, he's apologize and hedge. I mean you can't please everyone all the time. There is such a thing as too much diplomacy. Like Jesse, I wanted to cut off his balls -- but they were already gone.

Now, there's all this smiling and laughing and joking and sniping. This sniping Obama is not the Obama I fell in love with. And I think the strategy will backfire. Impress me with innovative strategies to address the crises in this country.

Hillary is brilliant and she knows how to navigate stuff. Her campaign sucked and failed at first but because she can ADAPT she created a huge comeback with the whole faux-feminism angle. I'm confident that Hillary would come up with some innovative ways to address our country's dilemma. She would stay up all night as a matter of ego to do it. During the convention, I was literally sickened that she was not up there to accept the nomination of President.

I kid you not -- during the roll call, I secretly wanted a surprise steal! I wanted Hillary to get the most votes and cause a bunch of drama by hijacking the Democratic convention. That would be sooo Hillary!

But alas, she stopped the roll call. It's a travesty that she's not on the ticket. But she would have outshined him as VP. He should be her VP if I can speak honestly. And if Bill and HIlllary had not made terribly offensive remarks during her campaign -- that's the way it would be.

I am hoping Obama wins ...but I do not expect it. I mean why is a mediocre candidate like McCain tied or leading with a slight edge? That's mindboggling.

He has not adapted and strategized properly and yes I made the wrong decision. He should be learning under HIllary as her VP candidate right now and he could have run in the future.

I can only hope that political master Bill Clinton can save his ass as he begins campaigning for him in the final stretch.

Whew. I guess I really needed to confess. neutral


clapping GREAT POST! very honest, very heart felt. I don't necessarily agree with everything you said but I just thought your post was so well said I had to say BRAVO!!! clapping
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #27 posted 09/18/08 7:09am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

hmmm I guess the assignment for this weekend is to try and stir up discord.

bored

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Reply #28 posted 09/18/08 9:04am

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ThreadBare said:

HiinEnkelte said:



confuse

oh, come on. you know why.


no, honestly, i really don't get it.
do you mean to imply that i voted for bush (twice)?
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Reply #29 posted 09/18/08 4:19pm

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None what so ever! I'm very happy with Obama and I really like his VP choice. I hope he wins, it seems like with every passing year with the republican's horrible economic philosphies and selfish agendas, our country has gotten more and more broke, stupid and fearful. If Obama wins I think it will create a psychological lift for this country, I really hope people's predjudice and irrational fears don't hold people back from voting in a new direction because I believe Obama has the right ideas.
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