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Thread started 07/13/08 7:34pm

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OBAMA ON THE COVER OF THE NEW YORKER!!

This should get everyone in a hot mess.

http://www.huffingtonpost...12429.html




Who knows if they'll get this in Dubuque, but they sure aren't going to like it in Chicago: This week's New Yorker cover features an image of Michelle and Barack Obama that combines every smeary right-wing stereotype imaginable: An image of Obama in a turban and robes fist-bumping his be-afro'd wife, dressed in the military fatigues of a revolutionary and packing a machine gun and some serious ammo. Oh yes, this quaint little scene takes place in the Oval Office, under a picture of Osama bin Laden above a roaring fireplace, in which burns an American flag. All that's missing is a token sprig of arugula.

The illustration, by Barry Blitt,is called "The Politics of Fear" and, according to the NYer press release, "satirizes the use of scare tactics and misinformation in the Presidential election to derail Barack Obama's campaign." Uh-huh. What's that they say about repeating a rumor?

Presumably the New Yorker readership is sophisticated enough to get the joke, but still: this is going to upset a lot of people, probably for the same reason it's going to delight a lot of other people, namely those on the right: Because it's got all the scare tactics and misinformation that has so far been used to derail Barack Obama's campaign — all in one handy illustration. Anyone who's tried to paint Obama as a Muslim, anyone who's tried to portray Michelle as angry or a secret revolutionary out to get Whitey, anyone who has questioned their patriotism— well, here's your image.

Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton called it "tasteless and offensive" and, according to Jake Tapper at ABC, another high-profile Obama supporter called it "as offensive a caricature as any magazine could publish."

The companion article by Ryan Lizza, who has written extensively about the campaign, traces Obama's early career and rise through Chicago politics. It's very long (18 pages!) and probably won't thrill a lot of Democratic party faithful, either, since it advances the image of Obama as a skilled and calculating politician who rose by becoming a master of the game:

"[P]erhaps the greatest misconception about Barack Obama is that he is some sort of anti-establishment revolutionary. Rather, every stage of his political career has been marked by an eagerness to accommodate himself to existing institutions rather than tear them down or replace them....he has always played politics by the rules as they exist, not as he would like them to exist. He runs as an outsider, but he has succeeded by mastering the inside game."

Is it the New Yorker's job to write uniformly flattering profiles of Obama? Do they have a duty to avoid controversial imagery that plays off the most dogged and damaging campaign smears? Of course not. Still, as Tapper says, there are probably "some angry, angry people in Chicago right now." Not to mention Washington, New York, and maybe even Dubuque.
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Reply #1 posted 07/13/08 11:29pm

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The Obama faithful are going to freak out.

Is it far from the truth? That remains to be seen. He has proven he has no problem pissing on the Constitution.
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Reply #2 posted 07/13/08 11:42pm

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After barry's vote on fisa its been very very quiet.

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Reply #3 posted 07/14/08 1:28am

Paris9748430

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The Obama faithful are going to freak out.

Is it far from the truth? That remains to be seen. He has proven he has no problem pissing on the Constitution.


Damn, I didn't know Obama was the person single handedly responsible for destroying the Constitution.

I could've sworn there were 99 other Senators, and 138 people in the House!!!

Obama's vote wasn't the vote that pushed the FISA bill over the top, either.

As far this cover goes, it's just stupid. I'm not offended, I get the joke, but it's just bad judgement on the part of The New Yorker.

There's already a pretty large segment of the population that thinks this is what the Obamas are like.

They think that Michelle Obama is some whitey-hating Black Nationalist.

They think that Barack is a Secret Muslim with possible Terrorist affiliation that wasn't born in this country. Oh yeah, he's also an Ivy Leauge snob who thinks he's better than everybody!!!

This just feeds the hatred and the ignorance.
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Reply #4 posted 07/14/08 2:58am

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Mars23 said:

The Obama faithful are going to freak out.

Is it far from the truth? That remains to be seen. He has proven he has no problem pissing on the Constitution.


Is it far from the truth?

Your response right there is the very reason why it's so wrong! Many, many people are looking for any excuse they can wrap their pea little brains around, in order not to vote for Obama. And that picture deliberately depicts every piece of fear inducing propaganda and flat out lie ever uttered about the Obama's but instead of seeing it for what it is, people like you are going to use it as another excuse to:

1) Validate your reasoning for not voting for him.
2) Talk shit to and about Obama supporters (which is funny as hell to me considering how many times I was warned about turning off Clinton supporters during the primaries but that's cool because the Obama supporters around here can hold their own and I guess we just don't go whining to mods but I digress).

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Reply #5 posted 07/14/08 5:14am

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it's about magazine sales, pure and simple. confused
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Reply #6 posted 07/14/08 6:30am

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Presumably the New Yorker readership is sophisticated enough to get the joke



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Reply #7 posted 07/14/08 6:48am

Mach

IrresistibleB1tch said:

it's about magazine sales, pure and simple. confused


Thank you
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Reply #8 posted 07/14/08 7:10am

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I think the visual impact will outweigh the educational impact. People will see the picture, not read the story and be misinformed. We'll all like it to be different but in reality it isn't.
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Reply #9 posted 07/14/08 7:10am

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lazycrockett said:

This should get everyone in a hot mess.

http://www.huffingtonpost...12429.html




Who knows if they'll get this in Dubuque, but they sure aren't going to like it in Chicago: This week's New Yorker cover features an image of Michelle and Barack Obama that combines every smeary right-wing stereotype imaginable: An image of Obama in a turban and robes fist-bumping his be-afro'd wife, dressed in the military fatigues of a revolutionary and packing a machine gun and some serious ammo. Oh yes, this quaint little scene takes place in the Oval Office, under a picture of Osama bin Laden above a roaring fireplace, in which burns an American flag. All that's missing is a token sprig of arugula.

The illustration, by Barry Blitt,is called "The Politics of Fear" and, according to the NYer press release, "satirizes the use of scare tactics and misinformation in the Presidential election to derail Barack Obama's campaign." Uh-huh. What's that they say about repeating a rumor?

Presumably the New Yorker readership is sophisticated enough to get the joke, but still: this is going to upset a lot of people, probably for the same reason it's going to delight a lot of other people, namely those on the right: Because it's got all the scare tactics and misinformation that has so far been used to derail Barack Obama's campaign — all in one handy illustration. Anyone who's tried to paint Obama as a Muslim, anyone who's tried to portray Michelle as angry or a secret revolutionary out to get Whitey, anyone who has questioned their patriotism— well, here's your image.

Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton called it "tasteless and offensive" and, according to Jake Tapper at ABC, another high-profile Obama supporter called it "as offensive a caricature as any magazine could publish."

The companion article by Ryan Lizza, who has written extensively about the campaign, traces Obama's early career and rise through Chicago politics. It's very long (18 pages!) and probably won't thrill a lot of Democratic party faithful, either, since it advances the image of Obama as a skilled and calculating politician who rose by becoming a master of the game:

"[P]erhaps the greatest misconception about Barack Obama is that he is some sort of anti-establishment revolutionary. Rather, every stage of his political career has been marked by an eagerness to accommodate himself to existing institutions rather than tear them down or replace them....he has always played politics by the rules as they exist, not as he would like them to exist. He runs as an outsider, but he has succeeded by mastering the inside game."

Is it the New Yorker's job to write uniformly flattering profiles of Obama? Do they have a duty to avoid controversial imagery that plays off the most dogged and damaging campaign smears? Of course not. Still, as Tapper says, there are probably "some angry, angry people in Chicago right now." Not to mention Washington, New York, and maybe even Dubuque.

Sharpton should organize a protest and call for the firing of Barry Blitt the guy who did this cartoon and David Remnick the editor of The New Yorker who allowed it to be published
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Reply #10 posted 07/14/08 7:12am

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Wow, I was wondering what was taking the racist haters so long to start the bashing and the faith and race hatred!!! LOL it is funny though!!
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Reply #11 posted 07/14/08 7:23am

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Good satire, plays on the stigma the right has attempted to attach to him. Nobody with half a braincell actually believes hes a islamic terrorist or that his wife is a violent black militant.
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Reply #12 posted 07/14/08 7:52am

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I'm more offended by the "Who knows if they'll get this in Dubuque" comment than I am by the cover.
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Reply #13 posted 07/14/08 8:34am

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Mars23 said:

The Obama faithful are going to freak out.

Is it far from the truth? That remains to be seen. He has proven he has no problem pissing on the Constitution.


What does "pissing on the Constitution" (that the entire Congress is doing) have to do with supposedly being a terrorist and having a wife that hates "whitey"?

This was to be expected. Before november half of America will believe Obama is a muslim terrorist with an America hating wife. And all they need to accomplish that is some stupid cartoon, some media hammering and millions of idiots to believe it, the latter which is no problem at all.
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Reply #14 posted 07/14/08 9:37am

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Mars23 said:

The Obama faithful are going to freak out.

Is it far from the truth? That remains to be seen. He has proven he has no problem pissing on the Constitution.

"Pissing" on the constitution and being portrayed as a black panther and Islamo fascists are clearly 2 differnt things. Don't muddy the waters because of your bitterness towards him as a candidate.

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Reply #15 posted 07/14/08 9:48am

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It's becoming embarrassing, the lows some folks get down with...I'm past angry, pity is what I feel now for people who have to stoop to these types of tactics. Pity and disgust.
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Reply #16 posted 07/14/08 10:36am

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Paris9748430 said:

Mars23 said:

The Obama faithful are going to freak out.

Is it far from the truth? That remains to be seen. He has proven he has no problem pissing on the Constitution.


Damn, I didn't know Obama was the person single handedly responsible for destroying the Constitution.

I could've sworn there were 99 other Senators, and 138 people in the House!!!

Obama's vote wasn't the vote that pushed the FISA bill over the top, either.

As far this cover goes, it's just stupid. I'm not offended, I get the joke, but it's just bad judgement on the part of The New Yorker.

There's already a pretty large segment of the population that thinks this is what the Obamas are like.

They think that Michelle Obama is some whitey-hating Black Nationalist.

They think that Barack is a Secret Muslim with possible Terrorist affiliation that wasn't born in this country. Oh yeah, he's also an Ivy Leauge snob who thinks he's better than everybody!!!

This just feeds the hatred and the ignorance.


I don't think the more radical of these notions, but I do think that he is a rather arrogant individual.
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Reply #17 posted 07/14/08 10:41am

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seekingtruth said:

Paris9748430 said:



Damn, I didn't know Obama was the person single handedly responsible for destroying the Constitution.

I could've sworn there were 99 other Senators, and 138 people in the House!!!

Obama's vote wasn't the vote that pushed the FISA bill over the top, either.

As far this cover goes, it's just stupid. I'm not offended, I get the joke, but it's just bad judgement on the part of The New Yorker.

There's already a pretty large segment of the population that thinks this is what the Obamas are like.

They think that Michelle Obama is some whitey-hating Black Nationalist.

They think that Barack is a Secret Muslim with possible Terrorist affiliation that wasn't born in this country. Oh yeah, he's also an Ivy Leauge snob who thinks he's better than everybody!!!

This just feeds the hatred and the ignorance.


I don't think the more radical of these notions, but I do think that he is a rather arrogant individual.


Arrogant as in McCain telling homeowners to get a second job or hiring staffers who tell the American people they are whiners when it cost them 500 to fill their gas tanks?
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Reply #18 posted 07/14/08 10:55am

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seekingtruth said:



I don't think the more radical of these notions, but I do think that he is a rather arrogant individual.


Arrogant as in McCain telling homeowners to get a second job or hiring staffers who tell the American people they are whiners when it cost them 500 to fill their gas tanks?


not just any staffer, Supa..his freakin Economic Advisor. Mccain said that he doesnt speak for him, but..yeah, he does. He advices your economic policy, dude. what a censored

***and now back to our free-speech protected, but ill-timed journalistic foolishness***.
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Reply #19 posted 07/14/08 10:59am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

seekingtruth said:



I don't think the more radical of these notions, but I do think that he is a rather arrogant individual.


Arrogant as in McCain telling homeowners to get a second job or hiring staffers who tell the American people they are whiners when it cost them 500 to fill their gas tanks?



I find no arrogance in telling somebody to do whatever it takes to get the job done.....should he take the democratic route and encourage them all to cry about how mistreated they are?

The comment by the staffer was very insensitive and unprofessional, but I don't necessarily think that you can point that at an arrogance by McCain.
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Reply #20 posted 07/14/08 11:00am

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unkemptpueblo said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Arrogant as in McCain telling homeowners to get a second job or hiring staffers who tell the American people they are whiners when it cost them 500 to fill their gas tanks?


not just any staffer, Supa..his freakin Economic Advisor. Mccain said that he doesnt speak for him, but..yeah, he does. He advices your economic policy, dude. what a censored

***and now back to our free-speech protected, but ill-timed journalistic foolishness***.



This cracks me up. You guys did not want any connection between an advisor and the candidate when it was Obama hiring down right crooks as his advisors, but now you want to make it something dramatic.

Typical....
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seekingtruth said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Arrogant as in McCain telling homeowners to get a second job or hiring staffers who tell the American people they are whiners when it cost them 500 to fill their gas tanks?



I find no arrogance in telling somebody to do whatever it takes to get the job done.....should he take the democratic route and encourage them all to cry about how mistreated they are?

The comment by the staffer was very insensitive and unprofessional, but I don't necessarily think that you can point that at an arrogance by McCain.

Yeah, that's the typical Republican response to free market thievery disbelief
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seekingtruth said:

unkemptpueblo said:



not just any staffer, Supa..his freakin Economic Advisor. Mccain said that he doesnt speak for him, but..yeah, he does. He advices your economic policy, dude. what a censored

***and now back to our free-speech protected, but ill-timed journalistic foolishness***.



This cracks me up. You guys did not want any connection between an advisor and the candidate when it was Obama hiring down right crooks as his advisors, but now you want to make it something dramatic.

Typical....


which advisor(s) are you referring to?
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Reply #23 posted 07/14/08 11:18am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

seekingtruth said:




This cracks me up. You guys did not want any connection between an advisor and the candidate when it was Obama hiring down right crooks as his advisors, but now you want to make it something dramatic.

Typical....


which advisor(s) are you referring to?



Jim Johnson - Crook who worked corrupt deals with Countrywide.
Robert Malley - Obama had to ax him after it was exposed that he was being investigated for terrorist ties.

Those were the 2 I was referring to, but You could throw Greg Craig in there since he is breaking attorney/client priviledge in his Obama-driven ax jobs on the Clintons.
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Reply #24 posted 07/14/08 11:21am

seekingtruth

seekingtruth said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



which advisor(s) are you referring to?



Jim Johnson - Crook who worked corrupt deals with Countrywide.
Robert Malley - Obama had to ax him after it was exposed that he was being investigated for terrorist ties.

Those were the 2 I was referring to, but You could throw Greg Craig in there since he is breaking attorney/client priviledge in his Obama-driven ax jobs on the Clintons.



I should probably clarify about Johnson.....His deals were not necessarily crooked. They were under the table deals, but they were not likely illegal.

The issue for the Obama campaign was that they directly contradicted his soap box at that same time....
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seekingtruth said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Arrogant as in McCain telling homeowners to get a second job or hiring staffers who tell the American people they are whiners when it cost them 500 to fill their gas tanks?



I find no arrogance in telling somebody to do whatever it takes to get the job done.....should he take the democratic route and encourage them all to cry about how mistreated they are?

The comment by the staffer was very insensitive and unprofessional, but I don't necessarily think that you can point that at an arrogance by McCain.



what if we are already at three jobs in one family and looking to make it four, so that we can survive? tell me how whiny we are, when we have children with needs, including needing their parents around, and yet the govt. has obliterated our economy? Whiners? Give me a break. And I see folks every day who are in need, and yet even the church can't help because people are just out of money.
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My first comment was unfair. His selling out of his ideals and constituents has nothing to do with what is depicted here.

I understand the satire, but many won't which is problematic. It is not fair to a candidate that is fighting falsehoods to portray them on a cover without explanation.
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Reply #27 posted 07/14/08 11:41am

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seekingtruth said:




I find no arrogance in telling somebody to do whatever it takes to get the job done.....should he take the democratic route and encourage them all to cry about how mistreated they are?

The comment by the staffer was very insensitive and unprofessional, but I don't necessarily think that you can point that at an arrogance by McCain.



what if we are already at three jobs in one family and looking to make it four, so that we can survive? tell me how whiny we are, when we have children with needs, including needing their parents around, and yet the govt. has obliterated our economy? Whiners? Give me a break. And I see folks every day who are in need, and yet even the church can't help because people are just out of money.



I did not justify the 'Whiners' comment.

I am saying that the statements made are not arrogant statements.

If somebody, and I don't mean this to offend anybody, is working 3 jobs and cannot support their family....

They either need to move to a different location or find different jobs. If there are not 'different jobs' than relocation needs to be an option, because there are jobs out there.

If that person is you....how many kids do you have?
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seekingtruth said:

bluesbaby said:




what if we are already at three jobs in one family and looking to make it four, so that we can survive? tell me how whiny we are, when we have children with needs, including needing their parents around, and yet the govt. has obliterated our economy? Whiners? Give me a break. And I see folks every day who are in need, and yet even the church can't help because people are just out of money.



I did not justify the 'Whiners' comment.

I am saying that the statements made are not arrogant statements.

If somebody, and I don't mean this to offend anybody, is working 3 jobs and cannot support their family....

They either need to move to a different location or find different jobs. If there are not 'different jobs' than relocation needs to be an option, because there are jobs out there.

If that person is you....how many kids do you have?


sorry, its been a stressfull few days. I apologize for not reading more carefully. As for the other, relocation is not an option. I serve a church, I love my church, and even moving costs more money. We are just trying to pay our bills and make sure we have time with our children that is quality time.
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Reply #29 posted 07/14/08 1:05pm

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Wow. The New Yorker really went waaaay to far on this one. I wonder how people would have felt if George W. Bush was on the cover of some magazine dressed like Hitler.
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