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Reply #30 posted 05/28/08 1:05pm

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Thank you, Supa, for initiating such a kind and positive thread. smile

I appreciate Jehovah's Witnesses for doing their utmost to truly practice what they preach, to be loving and peaceful people. It's a privilege to be a part of such an international, unified organization. nod

I haven't been on the board much (lots o' lurking, though!) -- unemployment and dire troubles with my son have had me very distracted these past few months. sad But another facet of my appreciation is the warm support from my friends and the knowledge I have from the Bible that no matter what the situation, I can throw all my anxiety on Jehovah because He cares for me -- and indeed, us all! (1 Peter 5:7) touched

Thank you all for your warm words; it's always a pleasure to converse with you.

Peace,


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Reply #31 posted 05/28/08 1:16pm

Mach

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Reply #32 posted 05/28/08 1:50pm

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At my old place I would get a very nice young couple stop by to pass out their literature. I was never rude to them, always smiled and had a short conversation with them every time. I really liked them.

One day I took the time to actually read what I was given and I couldn't believe some of the things I was reading. Just turned me off religion in all its forms even more.

But those people were beyond kind and I do believe that they were just trying to help others by spreading their word.
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Reply #33 posted 05/28/08 4:48pm

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Thank you Supa, nice, appreciate it. I've been away a bit, getting ready for some exporatory surgery tomorrow, not to worry peeps, it's piece of cake. Just me and hospitals, well go back along way, not much love there on my part. I will be back looking for some good things to read on here by weekend I'm sure.
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Reply #34 posted 05/28/08 4:56pm

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I'm sorry if I'm throwing a bucket of cold water on all the warm, positive feelings around here and taking the topic in a slightly different direction, but it strikes me how 'criticisms' are being taken as 'negative'.

Even negative comments/criticisms - aren't they supposed to make you think, re-assess, see things from varied angles, challenge yourself, in other words, grow?
If, when a child, my parents had only lavished praises on me and said positive things about me, I would consider they did a pretty bad job at bringing me up.

I realize this is a little off topic, and I apologize... but I'm wondering if this very effort to stay within our safe boundaries and hear only what pleases our ears do not have the effect of antagonizing others/other groups, of isolating us even more. If the JW religion is attracting weird looks from some, could it be partially linked to this?
Just raising the question...
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Reply #35 posted 05/28/08 4:58pm

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I was a JW since I was a child and up until I was around 17 years old.

To say I don't agree with their beliefs would be an understatement, but I love this thread. It's about time we had a little more positivity around here.
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Reply #36 posted 05/28/08 5:01pm

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Flo6 said:

I'm sorry if I'm throwing a bucket of cold water on all the warm, positive feelings around here and taking the topic in a slightly different direction, but it strikes me how 'criticisms' are being taken as 'negative'.

Even negative comments/criticisms - aren't they supposed to make you think, re-assess, see things from varied angles, challenge yourself, in other words, grow?
If, when a child, my parents had only lavished praises on me and said positive things about me, I would consider they did a pretty bad job at bringing me up.

I realize this is a little off topic, and I apologize... but I'm wondering if this very effort to stay within our safe boundaries and hear only what pleases our ears do not have the effect of antagonizing others/other groups, of isolating us even more. If the JW religion is attracting weird looks from some, could it be partially linked to this?
Just raising the question...


Yes and of course to all of what you said. 99.9% of the JW threads in this forum do all that. This isn't that thread.
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Reply #37 posted 05/28/08 5:13pm

Stymie

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Flo6 said:

I'm sorry if I'm throwing a bucket of cold water on all the warm, positive feelings around here and taking the topic in a slightly different direction, but it strikes me how 'criticisms' are being taken as 'negative'.

Even negative comments/criticisms - aren't they supposed to make you think, re-assess, see things from varied angles, challenge yourself, in other words, grow?
If, when a child, my parents had only lavished praises on me and said positive things about me, I would consider they did a pretty bad job at bringing me up.

I realize this is a little off topic, and I apologize... but I'm wondering if this very effort to stay within our safe boundaries and hear only what pleases our ears do not have the effect of antagonizing others/other groups, of isolating us even more. If the JW religion is attracting weird looks from some, could it be partially linked to this?
Just raising the question...


Yes and of course to all of what you said. 99.9% of the JW threads in this forum do all that. This isn't that thread.
Exactly.
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Reply #38 posted 05/28/08 5:26pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Flo6 said:

I'm sorry if I'm throwing a bucket of cold water on all the warm, positive feelings around here and taking the topic in a slightly different direction, but it strikes me how 'criticisms' are being taken as 'negative'.

Even negative comments/criticisms - aren't they supposed to make you think, re-assess, see things from varied angles, challenge yourself, in other words, grow?
If, when a child, my parents had only lavished praises on me and said positive things about me, I would consider they did a pretty bad job at bringing me up.

I realize this is a little off topic, and I apologize... but I'm wondering if this very effort to stay within our safe boundaries and hear only what pleases our ears do not have the effect of antagonizing others/other groups, of isolating us even more. If the JW religion is attracting weird looks from some, could it be partially linked to this?
Just raising the question...


Yes and of course to all of what you said. 99.9% of the JW threads in this forum do all that. This isn't that thread.



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Reply #39 posted 05/28/08 5:34pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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sosgemini said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Yes and of course to all of what you said. 99.9% of the JW threads in this forum do all that. This isn't that thread.



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Reply #40 posted 05/28/08 7:05pm

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Yes, I understood that this thread was different - that's why I was asking:)





SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Flo6 said:

I'm sorry if I'm throwing a bucket of cold water on all the warm, positive feelings around here and taking the topic in a slightly different direction, but it strikes me how 'criticisms' are being taken as 'negative'.

Even negative comments/criticisms - aren't they supposed to make you think, re-assess, see things from varied angles, challenge yourself, in other words, grow?
If, when a child, my parents had only lavished praises on me and said positive things about me, I would consider they did a pretty bad job at bringing me up.

I realize this is a little off topic, and I apologize... but I'm wondering if this very effort to stay within our safe boundaries and hear only what pleases our ears do not have the effect of antagonizing others/other groups, of isolating us even more. If the JW religion is attracting weird looks from some, could it be partially linked to this?
Just raising the question...


Yes and of course to all of what you said. 99.9% of the JW threads in this forum do all that. This isn't that thread.
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Reply #41 posted 05/29/08 5:09am

Mach

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Thank you Supa, nice, appreciate it. I've been away a bit, getting ready for some exporatory surgery tomorrow, not to worry peeps, it's piece of cake. Just me and hospitals, well go back along way, not much love there on my part. I will be back looking for some good things to read on here by weekend I'm sure.



Best wishes rose
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Reply #42 posted 05/29/08 5:20am

shanti0608

rodman2 said:

Thank you Supa, nice, appreciate it. I've been away a bit, getting ready for some exporatory surgery tomorrow, not to worry peeps, it's piece of cake. Just me and hospitals, well go back along way, not much love there on my part. I will be back looking for some good things to read on here by weekend I'm sure.


Take care, best wishes and see you when you return.
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Reply #43 posted 05/29/08 5:22am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Flo6 said:

I'm sorry if I'm throwing a bucket of cold water on all the warm, positive feelings around here and taking the topic in a slightly different direction, but it strikes me how 'criticisms' are being taken as 'negative'.

Even negative comments/criticisms - aren't they supposed to make you think, re-assess, see things from varied angles, challenge yourself, in other words, grow?
If, when a child, my parents had only lavished praises on me and said positive things about me, I would consider they did a pretty bad job at bringing me up.

I realize this is a little off topic, and I apologize... but I'm wondering if this very effort to stay within our safe boundaries and hear only what pleases our ears do not have the effect of antagonizing others/other groups, of isolating us even more. If the JW religion is attracting weird looks from some, could it be partially linked to this?
Just raising the question...


Yes and of course to all of what you said. 99.9% of the JW threads in this forum do all that. This isn't that thread.


I know it's not what this thread is about but I have to say that I don't agree with that at all. My experience is that while it seems more or less okay to critisize other religions here you are immediately reminded to be positive when it comes to the JWs. Say something negative about muslims, catholics or Scientology and there won't be the same reaction as if you say something negative about the JWs. Which is even more strange to me as the JWs are the religion who are trying to spread their faith the most here.
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Reply #44 posted 05/29/08 6:06am

iloveannie

Serious said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Yes and of course to all of what you said. 99.9% of the JW threads in this forum do all that. This isn't that thread.


I know it's not what this thread is about but I have to say that I don't agree with that at all. My experience is that while it seems more or less okay to critisize other religions here you are immediately reminded to be positive when it comes to the JWs. Say something negative about muslims, catholics or Scientology and there won't be the same reaction as if you say something negative about the JWs. Which is even more strange to me as the JWs are the religion who are trying to spread their faith the most here.
peace


There are a lot of things you can say about one group that you can't say about another. Take gingers for example. The last accepted form of racial abuse. And fatties.

I think it's really nice that people have faith (apart from when they kill in the name of it) but I still think they're away with the fairies... which I also don't believe in. Nor Santa, the bogeyman, ghosts or any other supernatural beings. And that includes anybody's version of a god. I just don't think getting fanatical over something is very healthy, be it Prince or God.

And to remain on topic I will again say how much I appreciate the JWs. For not finding my new address and getting me out of the shower. It's ok when it's the postman but... hold on that sounds well dodgy. I'll stop digging my hole now wink
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Reply #45 posted 05/29/08 9:20am

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I'm not sure I understood what Serious doesn't agree with - what I wrote? what Superfunky wrote?..
But anyway, the point I was trying to make is that criticism, even negative one, in fact especially negative one, can be a positive thing - quite the opposite actually.

A deluge of uncritical love and devotion do not necessarily amount imo to something positive.
But like I said, it's just my take on this.
I should shut up now and let the thread pursue its initially designated course.
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Reply #46 posted 05/29/08 9:27am

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EDIT TO PREVIOUS POST! [got some sentences mixed up!]

I'm not sure I understood what Serious doesn't agree with - what I wrote? what Superfunky wrote?..
But anyway, the point I was trying to make is that criticism, even negative one, in fact especially negative one, can be a positive thing.

A deluge of uncritical love and devotion do not necessarily amount imo to something positive - quite the opposite actually.
But like I said, it's just my take on this.
I should shut up now and let the thread pursue its initially designated course.
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Reply #47 posted 05/29/08 10:13am

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Serious said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Yes and of course to all of what you said. 99.9% of the JW threads in this forum do all that. This isn't that thread.


I know it's not what this thread is about but I have to say that I don't agree with that at all. My experience is that while it seems more or less okay to critisize other religions here you are immediately reminded to be positive when it comes to the JWs. Say something negative about muslims, catholics or Scientology and there won't be the same reaction as if you say something negative about the JWs. Which is even more strange to me as the JWs are the religion who are trying to spread their faith the most here.
peace

Who's reminding you and what threads is this happening on? the JW faith is savaged around here, I've done it too lol IMO all faiths are open for criticism but again, that's not for this thread.

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Reply #48 posted 05/29/08 10:25am

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Flo6 said:

EDIT TO PREVIOUS POST! [got some sentences mixed up!]

I'm not sure I understood what Serious doesn't agree with - what I wrote? what Superfunky wrote?..
But anyway, the point I was trying to make is that criticism, even negative one, in fact especially negative one, can be a positive thing.

A deluge of uncritical love and devotion do not necessarily amount imo to something positive - quite the opposite actually.
But like I said, it's just my take on this.
I should shut up now and let the thread pursue its initially designated course.

I was not agreeing with what Supa wrote. IMO the JWs get at least as much praise here on the org as criticism while the other religions I mentioned usually only are critisized.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #49 posted 05/29/08 10:26am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Serious said:



I know it's not what this thread is about but I have to say that I don't agree with that at all. My experience is that while it seems more or less okay to critisize other religions here you are immediately reminded to be positive when it comes to the JWs. Say something negative about muslims, catholics or Scientology and there won't be the same reaction as if you say something negative about the JWs. Which is even more strange to me as the JWs are the religion who are trying to spread their faith the most here.
peace

Who's reminding you and what threads is this happening on? the JW faith is savaged around here, I've done it too lol IMO all faiths are open for criticism but again, that's not for this thread.

hug

hug
I don't remember any particular threads, but as I just said one post above:
IMO the JWs get at least as much praise here on the org as criticism while the other religions I mentioned usually only are critisized.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #50 posted 05/29/08 10:42am

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Serious said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Who's reminding you and what threads is this happening on? the JW faith is savaged around here, I've done it too lol IMO all faiths are open for criticism but again, that's not for this thread.

hug

hug
I don't remember any particular threads, but as I just said one post above:
IMO the JWs get at least as much praise here on the org as criticism while the other religions I mentioned usually only are critisized.

And it's usually praise amonst themselves! lol Next time there are headhunters on the loose, I'll let you know wink
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Reply #51 posted 05/29/08 7:01pm

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Ah well it's clearer now.
I hadn't actually noticed the difference in treatment [of the diff. religions around here].

Anyway, Supafunky has the right to direct his initial post in any direction he/she wants and we should respect that. For my part I got the rules: praise in in, criticism is out.







Serious said:

Flo6 said:

EDIT TO PREVIOUS POST! [got some sentences mixed up!]

I'm not sure I understood what Serious doesn't agree with - what I wrote? what Superfunky wrote?..
But anyway, the point I was trying to make is that criticism, even negative one, in fact especially negative one, can be a positive thing.

A deluge of uncritical love and devotion do not necessarily amount imo to something positive - quite the opposite actually.
But like I said, it's just my take on this.
I should shut up now and let the thread pursue its initially designated course.

I was not agreeing with what Supa wrote. IMO the JWs get at least as much praise here on the org as criticism while the other religions I mentioned usually only are critisized.
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Reply #52 posted 05/30/08 11:17am

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Flo6 said:

EDIT TO PREVIOUS POST! [got some sentences mixed up!]

I'm not sure I understood what Serious doesn't agree with - what I wrote? what Superfunky wrote?..
But anyway, the point I was trying to make is that criticism, even negative one, in fact especially negative one, can be a positive thing.

A deluge of uncritical love and devotion do not necessarily amount imo to something positive - quite the opposite actually.
But like I said, it's just my take on this.
I should shut up now and let the thread pursue its initially designated course.


lol

Not likely to ever happen -- nor do we ever expect it (even on this thread wink ). But Supa's intent is greatly appreciated. cool

Rod -- Hope you feel better soon, my brother!


U.
Go to the source: http://www.jw.org/en

Thanks! biggrin
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Reply #53 posted 05/30/08 11:33am

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Uhope said:

Flo6 said:

EDIT TO PREVIOUS POST! [got some sentences mixed up!]

I'm not sure I understood what Serious doesn't agree with - what I wrote? what Superfunky wrote?..
But anyway, the point I was trying to make is that criticism, even negative one, in fact especially negative one, can be a positive thing.

A deluge of uncritical love and devotion do not necessarily amount imo to something positive - quite the opposite actually.
But like I said, it's just my take on this.
I should shut up now and let the thread pursue its initially designated course.


lol

Not likely to ever happen -- nor do we ever expect it (even on this thread wink ). But Supa's intent is greatly appreciated. cool

Rod -- Hope you feel better soon, my brother!


U.

Hi Sis ! All done 12 hours and pain killers, doc says all is okay, I'm a happy camper, doc wants some other tests and same again next year so, good to go. I feel good. Thanks all.
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