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JediMaster

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Newsweek takes a peek at Batman!!!

Batman, again: The real risk in the latest installment is the hero himself
By Devin Gordon
NewsweekJune 21 issue - The only major cast member on the set of the new "Batman" movie who doesn't have his own private trailer with his name on the door is Batman himself, actor Christian Bale. Michael Caine, who plays Batman's trusted butler, Alfred, has one, as does Katie Holmes, who plays love interest Rachel Dodson. But what about Bale? If you're looking for him, try knocking on the trailer door with a sign that reads BRUCE WAYNE. (That's Batman's alter ego. But you knew that.) If it all sounds a bit Method-actor fussy, well, it is. But Bale doesn't come across that way. Between takes of a scene in the dank, monstrous Batcave—erected on a soundstage at Shepperton Studios outside London and complete with lagoon, waterfall and subterranean bachelor pad—Holmes tries to engage Bale, 30, in a quick rehearsal. "Is Sergeant Gordon your friend?" she asks, running one of her lines. "Yes," a fully costumed Bale answers in his thick, icy baritone. "He's very warm, very comforting. I like to be held." Later, Bale hums as a makeup guy gives him a retouching. "The next one'll be a musical?" the man asks. Bale grins. "Yeah, they'll call it 'Batman!' with an exclamation point."



Let's just see how this new movie pans out first, shall we? After all, the comic-book franchise does have a checkered past. The new chapter, which will hit theaters in June 2005, is called "Batman Begins"—presumably because "Batman Sucked the Last Time So We're Starting Over" was too clunky. After the cultural phenomenon surrounding Tim Burton's operatic 1989 original, which rang up $251 million at the box office and untold more in bicycle caps and Prince cassette singles, the series plummeted over three sequels, bottoming out with 1997's disastrous "Batman & Robin," featuring George Clooney in a Batsuit studded with rubber nipples. But now there is buzz once again around the Warner Brothers franchise, and it's all because of the new film's 33-year-old director, England's Christopher Nolan, the creator of "Memento." "Batman is an absolutely iconic character, one of the great figures in pop culture, really," says Nolan. "But there has to be a reason for making this film as opposed to just renting Tim Burton's version." The hiring of the Welsh indie actor Bale ("American Psycho") was a healthy start—especially given the crass, movie-star jamboree (Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger) that mucked up the later "Batman" sequels.



Warner Brothers might appear to be rolling the dice by handing over a $150 million summer blockbuster to a man who's never directed an action movie before. But the real risk isn't Nolan. It's Batman. Seven years ago, moviegoers' interest in the character had flatlined. Even Nolan admits he's not certain enough time has passed for audiences to get excited about a new "Batman" movie. "But I know I am," he says, laughing. So was the studio. When Alan Horn took over Warner Brothers four years ago, "one of his mandates was to get 'Batman' back out there," says president of production Jeff Robinov. "But it took time to find the right person to redefine the franchise." Nolan won the job by vowing to strip away the later sequels' bombast and return "Batman" to its roots in character drama.

As exhaustively as the "Batman" legend has been told on film and TV, one chapter has never received comprehensive treatment: the first one. As a boy, Bruce Wayne sees his parents murdered before his eyes and dedicates his life to avenging them. But how, and why, does he become Batman? Where do the suit and cape come from? (Burton's film glossed over these questions.) Or, as Nolan puts it, "How did this guy who has no superpowers acquire all of these capabilities? He lives in the real world—it's sort of New York on steroids, but it's our world." Nolan pored over 65 years of comics and came up with this story: after a long exile, Wayne, now a 25-year-old scion, returns to Gotham City intent on kicking criminal butt. His family's military subcontracting business, Wayne Enterprises, has been seized by shareholders, who've relegated the company's most ambitious designs—and their inventor, Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman)—to the scrapheap. Wayne befriends Fox, using his designs to create an alter ego. And not a moment too soon because, naturally, there's a villain on the loose named the Scarecrow (Cillian Murphy of "28 Days Later"), who's hellbent on poisoning all of Gotham.

It's a comic-book tale, but Nolan promises that "Batman Begins," which also stars Liam Neeson and Gary Oldman, won't look anything like a comic-book movie. In contrast to the gothic fantasia of Burton's creation, Nolan has opted for gritty urban realism. At a converted airplane hangar an hour north of London, his crew has built a full city block of Gotham, much of it based on the towering slums of Kowloon in Hong Kong, which were razed in 1994. But the starting point for his vision, the director says, was the new Batmobile. Last year Nolan holed up in his garage in Los Angeles with production designer Nathan Crowley and hammered out a design that would make sense for the story. What they came up with is a drastic departure. The vehicle's rear is stacked with four 44-inch Humvee tires, and the front is covered in jagged plates of armor. It looks like something Pablo Picasso might take to a monster-truck rally. a car for a tortured soul. Perfect for Batman.

The Batmobile may have been step one, but on the set, nothing gets more attention than the Batsuit. Whenever Bale is in costume, two people trail him to keep it smudge-free; another person is charged with making sure his cape billows dramatically. On a converted parking lot at Shepperton, the crew has built an entire village of trailers, dubbed Cape Town, where chemists and costume art-ists churn out neoprene-and-foam-latex Batsuits by the bushel. In the movie, the suit is translucent at first: it's a futuristic military design complete with body armor and muscle-recovery devices. Wayne sprays it black to camouflage it. "Chris wanted a serious, matte finish—not shiny or gloopy," says costume designer Lindy Hemming. "We didn't want to depart from the classic silhouette, but we also didn't want to go too much in the homoerotic direction." Got it: no nipples.

On this particular day, Bale has been in the Batsuit for nine hours, and his brain is starting to boil. But he keeps up his good humor. After one take, Nolan instructs him to try a line again with more intensity, and Bale answers with a riff inspired by "This Is Spinal Tap": "How much more Batman can you get? The answer is: none. None more Batman." Later, freed of his suit, Bale plugs his nose with a handkerchief soaked in Olbas oil, a Swiss remedy for headaches. "This is obviously the highest-profile movie I will probably ever do," Bale says, taking a drag on his hand-rolled cigarette. "And sometimes on a huge movie like this, every take becomes an event. You can easily lose any kind of intimacy. But it feels as good as it can here, because at the core of this huge production is Chris Nolan." And if "Batman" is going to begin again, it's all up to the man at the top.

© 2004 Newsweek, Inc.


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Bale as Batman, putting the hurt on a villian:



The Dark Night Strikes!!!!!:






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[This message was edited Thu Jun 17 9:26:32 2004 by JediMaster]
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Reply #1 posted 06/17/04 9:10am

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Hi Jedi... hug

I was waiting to see how long this was going to take you to post something... Especially after the org notes between you and flutie!
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Reply #2 posted 06/17/04 9:24am

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BabyCakes said:

Hi Jedi... hug

I was waiting to see how long this was going to take you to post something... Especially after the org notes between you and flutie!


Hey Baby!!! hug
Ya man & I actually did the orgnote thing a couple of weeks ago about this very subject!! He and I are definitely of the same mind about this flick! It will absolutely kick all kinds of ass! At long last, we will have Batman on the big screen the way he should be!!! Golly, I use a lot of exclamation points!!!!!

Oh, and I know he's gotta be about to come out of his skin over Spidey 2! I feel like my heads gonna friggin explode from the wait!!!!
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Reply #3 posted 06/17/04 9:27am

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JediMaster said:

BabyCakes said:

Hi Jedi... hug

I was waiting to see how long this was going to take you to post something... Especially after the org notes between you and flutie!


Hey Baby!!! hug
Ya man & I actually did the orgnote thing a couple of weeks ago about this very subject!! He and I are definitely of the same mind about this flick! It will absolutely kick all kinds of ass! At long last, we will have Batman on the big screen the way he should be!!! Golly, I use a lot of exclamation points!!!!!

Oh, and I know he's gotta be about to come out of his skin over Spidey 2! I feel like my heads gonna friggin explode from the wait!!!!


Comic Nerds..... rolleyes

just kiddin..... wink
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BabyCakes said:

JediMaster said:



Hey Baby!!! hug
Ya man & I actually did the orgnote thing a couple of weeks ago about this very subject!! He and I are definitely of the same mind about this flick! It will absolutely kick all kinds of ass! At long last, we will have Batman on the big screen the way he should be!!! Golly, I use a lot of exclamation points!!!!!

Oh, and I know he's gotta be about to come out of his skin over Spidey 2! I feel like my heads gonna friggin explode from the wait!!!!


Comic Nerds..... rolleyes

just kiddin..... wink


Nonononono! We are Geeks! Nerds are those guys who study science & shit. Geeks are the ones into comics and crap like that!!!
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Reply #5 posted 06/17/04 9:56am

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THAKN YOU JEDI

KEEP IT COMING!

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POOK said:


THAKN YOU JEDI

KEEP IT COMING!


Thanks POOK!!! Glad to know its appreciated!
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Reply #7 posted 06/17/04 11:18am

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Hell yes, the epic bat-wings (tm) are back! I missed that huge, somewhat scary spread of wings it kinda just became a cloak in all the recent (and may I add SHIT) films.
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Reply #8 posted 06/17/04 11:27am

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Spookymuffin said:

JediMaster said:







Hell yes, the epic bat-wings (tm) are back! I missed that huge, somewhat scary spread of wings it kinda just became a cloak in all the recent (and may I add SHIT) films.


Hell, this is the way they ALWAYS should have looked!!!! Even the Burton films didn't get it as good as this!!! We shan't speak of the Shumacher "films". Those are just blasphemous!!
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Reply #9 posted 06/17/04 11:40am

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Thanks for the article and pics, JM! It all looks to be really good so far. I'm there!

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Reply #10 posted 06/17/04 12:24pm

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NCC2012 said:

Thanks for the article and pics, JM! It all looks to be really good so far. I'm there!

(from another comic book geek)giggle


thumbs up! To paraphrase Morrisey "comic book geeks of the world, unite and take over"!!!
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Reply #11 posted 06/17/04 1:55pm

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Sounds GREAT. I'm pumped. Pumped as a geek can be. geek!
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I loved the first two "Batman"s but I really don't look forward to this. I think Michael Keaton, even though he is older, should have put on the suit one more time to end it. I don't look forward to this at all and might not even see it.
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VinnyM27 said:

I think Michael Keaton, even though he is older, should have put on the suit one more time to end it.

That's the same thing Adam West was saying when Keaton took the job. lol
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Reply #14 posted 06/18/04 2:57am

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From those pictures alone the film looks interesting.

Joel Schumacher should had never directed the Batman films.

He basically turned Batman gay! Not that there's anything wrong with that, but come on those films were pretty fruiting looking and that's not how Batman is supposed to be!

Batman is dark and mysterious and a little gothic.
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Reply #15 posted 06/18/04 5:20am

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I'll give it a chance and this time I hope they don't screw it up (*cough*Schumacher*)!
Hey Jedi, I know you've seen the new Batmobile right? What do you think? I saw it in a magazine and I think they're trying to go for a Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns kind of feel. It kind of looks like one of those monster trucks. ill
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Reply #16 posted 06/18/04 5:59am

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It sounds and looks good to me!!
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VinnyM27 said:

I loved the first two "Batman"s but I really don't look forward to this. I think Michael Keaton, even though he is older, should have put on the suit one more time to end it. I don't look forward to this at all and might not even see it.


Keaton was decent, but he still was missing some vital aspects of the Batman character. This will be the first time that Batman has been portrayed accurate to his comic roots.
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Reply #18 posted 06/18/04 9:36am

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NovaAngel said:

I'll give it a chance and this time I hope they don't screw it up (*cough*Schumacher*)!
Hey Jedi, I know you've seen the new Batmobile right? What do you think? I saw it in a magazine and I think they're trying to go for a Frank Miller Dark Knight Returns kind of feel. It kind of looks like one of those monster trucks. ill
[This message was edited Fri Jun 18 5:21:11 2004 by NovaAngel]



Well, the Batmobie is definitely inspired by the Frank Miller version from DKR, and while it isn't all that "cool" looking, it does seem like a practical design for Batman's purposes. I'm going to reserve judgement until I see it in action.
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Reply #19 posted 06/18/04 9:43am

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JediMaster said:

VinnyM27 said:

I loved the first two "Batman"s but I really don't look forward to this. I think Michael Keaton, even though he is older, should have put on the suit one more time to end it. I don't look forward to this at all and might not even see it.


Keaton was decent, but he still was missing some vital aspects of the Batman character. This will be the first time that Batman has been portrayed accurate to his comic roots.


S'up Jedi.
The only thing that I'm worried about is that Nolan doesn't include is the bat smashing thru the window--Frank Miller style.It's such an essential part of the Batman mythos,and we 've never gotten it before.If not... disbelief
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Reply #20 posted 06/18/04 12:23pm

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Bale will be a very good Batman, and the PERFECT Bruce Wayne. Can't wait to see the movie. I love the fact that they are going back to the Frank Miller days for this one...the way Batman should be. cool
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