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sag10

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This makes me so sad, and mad

SYRACUSE, N.Y. June 16, 2004 — A judge Wednesday sentenced Timothy Lucie to 50 years to life in prison for raping his 11-year-old daughter, who later hanged herself.
Lucie, 46, was convicted last month of first-degree rape, first-degree sodomy and endangering the welfare of a child.

He was accused of sexually assaulting his 11-year-old daughter, Valerie, in the shower at their Syracuse home Sept. 30. Hours later her 8-year-old brother found her hanging from her bedpost by a dog collar and leash in what police said was an apparent suicide.

A furniture business owner, Lucie confessed to the rape after a six-hour interrogation on Oct. 13. He then recanted as police prepared to put the confession on videotape.

Lucie claimed his confession was coerced by police, who he said threatened to arrest his wife and take away his four younger sons if he didn't admit to the sexual attack.


He ruined his daughter! His 8 year old is ruined mentally for life...Asshole

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Reply #1 posted 06/17/04 10:25am

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that is just fuckin sick. mad
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Reply #2 posted 06/17/04 10:26am

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What an absolute tragedy... She was 11 years old.. she didn't get a chance to live and enjoy her life..

I hope this Mother fucker gets his ass raped in jail a thousand times over... Piece of shit that he is...
Sorry for the profanity sag on your thread, but stuff like this really burns my ass!!!!! mad
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Reply #3 posted 06/17/04 10:29am

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barf WTF is that all about why are people so damn cruel in life, she was his daughter first of all, and hello she was 11 excuse me but sick ass bastard
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Reply #4 posted 06/17/04 10:33am

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sag10 said:

SYRACUSE, N.Y. June 16, 2004 — A judge Wednesday sentenced Timothy Lucie to 50 years to life in prison for raping his 11-year-old daughter, who later hanged herself.
Lucie, 46, was convicted last month of first-degree rape, first-degree sodomy and endangering the welfare of a child.

He was accused of sexually assaulting his 11-year-old daughter, Valerie, in the shower at their Syracuse home Sept. 30. Hours later her 8-year-old brother found her hanging from her bedpost by a dog collar and leash in what police said was an apparent suicide.

A furniture business owner, Lucie confessed to the rape after a six-hour interrogation on Oct. 13. He then recanted as police prepared to put the confession on videotape.

Lucie claimed his confession was coerced by police, who he said threatened to arrest his wife and take away his four younger sons if he didn't admit to the sexual attack.


He ruined his daughter! His 8 year old is ruined mentally for life...Asshole

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she is dead.... sad
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Reply #5 posted 06/17/04 10:33am

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disbelief mad
Sometimes i think the deathpenalty is appropriate..
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Reply #6 posted 06/17/04 10:33am

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that's tragic, truly depressing sad
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Reply #7 posted 06/17/04 10:33am

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hmph!
so sad. what happened to this man that could turn him into such a monster?
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Reply #8 posted 06/17/04 10:40am

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sag10 said:

SYRACUSE, N.Y. June 16, 2004 — A judge Wednesday sentenced Timothy Lucie to 50 years to life in prison for raping his 11-year-old daughter, who later hanged herself.
Lucie, 46, was convicted last month of first-degree rape, first-degree sodomy and endangering the welfare of a child.

He was accused of sexually assaulting his 11-year-old daughter, Valerie, in the shower at their Syracuse home Sept. 30. Hours later her 8-year-old brother found her hanging from her bedpost by a dog collar and leash in what police said was an apparent suicide.

A furniture business owner, Lucie confessed to the rape after a six-hour interrogation on Oct. 13. He then recanted as police prepared to put the confession on videotape.

Lucie claimed his confession was coerced by police, who he said threatened to arrest his wife and take away his four younger sons if he didn't admit to the sexual attack.


He ruined his daughter! His 8 year old is ruined mentally for life...Asshole

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Reply #9 posted 06/17/04 10:42am

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sad

Horrific....
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Reply #10 posted 06/17/04 10:49am

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This is why I could never be a cop, cause his ass never would have made it to the police station alive.
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Reply #11 posted 06/17/04 10:50am

Spookymuffin

There are some fucking crazy and horrible people in the world, only yesterday I heard about a dad who raped his 5 and 3 year-old daughters over eight times a week. The life sentence he got does not make up for the horrible things which he has done.
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Reply #12 posted 06/17/04 11:31am

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The man is very sick
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Reply #13 posted 06/17/04 11:44am

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AlfofMelmak said:

disbelief mad
Sometimes i think the deathpenalty is appropriate..

I agree. mad
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Reply #14 posted 06/17/04 11:49am

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NCC2012 said:

AlfofMelmak said:

disbelief mad
Sometimes i think the deathpenalty is appropriate..

I agree. mad


I agree too.

What kinda poor excuse for a human being would do that? There is no justification of any kind for what he has done, he has simultaneously ruined his families lives and destroyed the potential life of a young girl.

Sick bastard... mad
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Reply #15 posted 06/17/04 11:52am

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Spookymuffin said:

There are some fucking crazy and horrible people in the world, only yesterday I heard about a dad who raped his 5 and 3 year-old daughters over eight times a week. The life sentence he got does not make up for the horrible things which he has done.


and they're still alive? sad mad
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Reply #16 posted 06/17/04 11:56am

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I actually hope he GOES TO JAIL and does not get the Death Penalty. I have a family member who was in prison and he told us what happend to those type of people. Those kind of sick people get treated like scum by the guards and beat…..that's just the guards….what the other inmates do to them, I'd rather not say.
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Reply #17 posted 06/17/04 12:09pm

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sad there are a lot of sicko's in this world cry
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Reply #18 posted 06/17/04 12:20pm

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unlucky7 said:

Spookymuffin said:

There are some fucking crazy and horrible people in the world, only yesterday I heard about a dad who raped his 5 and 3 year-old daughters over eight times a week. The life sentence he got does not make up for the horrible things which he has done.


and they're still alive? sad mad


Yeah, they still are thankfully, but probably mentally scarred for their lifetime.
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Reply #19 posted 06/17/04 12:26pm

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Shit happens... But anyway...

Lucie claimed his confession was coerced by police, who he said threatened to arrest his wife and take away his four younger sons if he didn't admit to the sexual attack.

Maybe he's telling the truth and yet all of y'all here are calling this man a sicko or bastard or whatever or would even kill him (the irony...)
Y'all are a sad bunch...

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Reply #20 posted 06/17/04 12:31pm

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Neversin said:

Shit happens... But anyway...

Lucie claimed his confession was coerced by police, who he said threatened to arrest his wife and take away his four younger sons if he didn't admit to the sexual attack.

Maybe he's telling the truth and yet all of y'all here are calling this man a sicko or bastard or whatever or would even kill him (the irony...)
Y'all are a sad bunch...

Neversin.


Telling the truth? He is trying to save his ass..

And yes, we are a sad bunch.. Sad for abused children..
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Reply #21 posted 06/17/04 12:48pm

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Neversin said:

Shit happens... But anyway...

Lucie claimed his confession was coerced by police, who he said threatened to arrest his wife and take away his four younger sons if he didn't admit to the sexual attack.

Maybe he's telling the truth and yet all of y'all here are calling this man a sicko or bastard or whatever or would even kill him (the irony...)
Y'all are a sad bunch...

Neversin.



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Reply #22 posted 06/17/04 12:48pm

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Truly sad. I suffered through some shit as a kid, and for years I hid behind a sick sense of humour to cope with it. How could an adult do this to a defenseless child?? I really don't understand it. These kind of things scar you, no doubt about it, and in this case it led to something even worse. Can you imagine how bad the abuse must've been for a CHILD to take her own life??? Scratch that, I don't want anyone to imagine it

My girlfriend has two children, and I've become quite attached to them. The idea of anyone laying a hand on them fills me with intense fury. I no longer comprehend how I could make the jokes I once did, even if it was to hide my own pain. Children are such a joy, and I really have no tolerance for the person who could do this kind of thing. Alf brought up the death penalty, and its understandable how folks could feel that this is the solution. Some feel rehabilitation is possible, but I don't know. In the case of children and young teens who engage in abusive sexual behaviour towards other children, this is entirely possible (in fact, there have been cases of these children being rehabilitated. A child acting in this manner is doing it for very different reasons than an adult). I have my doubts that an adult could be "fixed" however. At that point I believe the damage is just too deep. An infection of sorts has seeped into their brains, and eaten away at their souls. This may sound melodramatic, but I really don't think it is. This person becomes the equivilant of a rabid dog. The sickness has spread and there is only one way to prevent it from harming anyone else.
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Reply #23 posted 06/17/04 12:51pm

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BabyCakes said:

What an absolute tragedy... She was 11 years old.. she didn't get a chance to live and enjoy her life..

I hope this Mother fucker gets his ass raped in jail a thousand times over... Piece of shit that he is...
Sorry for the profanity sag on your thread, but stuff like this really burns my ass!!!!! mad





I agree with you BabyCakes. I hope he becomes "everyones" bitch in jail. They need to cut his balls off and hand them to him.
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Reply #24 posted 06/17/04 12:55pm

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Truly sad. I suffered through some shit as a kid, and for years I hid behind a sick sense of humour to cope with it. How could an adult do this to a defenseless child?? I really don't understand it. These kind of things scar you, no doubt about it, and in this case it led to something even worse. Can you imagine how bad the abuse must've been for a CHILD to take her own life??? Scratch that, I don't want anyone to imagine it

My girlfriend has two children, and I've become quite attached to them. The idea of anyone laying a hand on them fills me with intense fury. I no longer comprehend how I could make the jokes I once did, even if it was to hide my own pain. Children are such a joy, and I really have no tolerance for the person who could do this kind of thing. Alf brought up the death penalty, and its understandable how folks could feel that this is the solution. Some feel rehabilitation is possible, but I don't know. In the case of children and young teens who engage in abusive sexual behaviour towards other children, this is entirely possible (in fact, there have been cases of these children being rehabilitated. A child acting in this manner is doing it for very different reasons than an adult). I have my doubts that an adult could be "fixed" however. At that point I believe the damage is just too deep. An infection of sorts has seeped into their brains, and eaten away at their souls. This may sound melodramatic, but I really don't think it is. This person becomes the equivilant of a rabid dog. The sickness has spread and there is only one way to prevent it from harming anyone else.


I am so sorry you had to endure that as a child Jedi.. I feel for you intensely! hug
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Reply #25 posted 06/17/04 12:58pm

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JediMaster said:

Truly sad. I suffered through some shit as a kid, and for years I hid behind a sick sense of humour to cope with it. How could an adult do this to a defenseless child?? I really don't understand it. These kind of things scar you, no doubt about it, and in this case it led to something even worse. Can you imagine how bad the abuse must've been for a CHILD to take her own life??? Scratch that, I don't want anyone to imagine it

My girlfriend has two children, and I've become quite attached to them. The idea of anyone laying a hand on them fills me with intense fury. I no longer comprehend how I could make the jokes I once did, even if it was to hide my own pain. Children are such a joy, and I really have no tolerance for the person who could do this kind of thing. Alf brought up the death penalty, and its understandable how folks could feel that this is the solution. Some feel rehabilitation is possible, but I don't know. In the case of children and young teens who engage in abusive sexual behaviour towards other children, this is entirely possible (in fact, there have been cases of these children being rehabilitated. A child acting in this manner is doing it for very different reasons than an adult). I have my doubts that an adult could be "fixed" however. At that point I believe the damage is just too deep. An infection of sorts has seeped into their brains, and eaten away at their souls. This may sound melodramatic, but I really don't think it is. This person becomes the equivilant of a rabid dog. The sickness has spread and there is only one way to prevent it from harming anyone else.



I can feel you Jedi... and my heart goes out to you, and to those of us that have suffered abuses... But somehow, someway these experiences make us better people... hug
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Reply #26 posted 06/17/04 1:28pm

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I feel just as sorry for the guy as I do the kid. Something really compelling had to be going on in this guys head to drive him to do something like that. I don't know what makes people become that way, but people like that will spend the rest of their life suffering for it, in addition to those they assult.
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Reply #27 posted 06/17/04 1:38pm

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BabyCakes said:

Your kidding right????

Nope...
How many times has it happened that an innocent man was put in jail because of fucked up cops or fucked up other people with different agenda's or just a simple mistake...
I say let the man say his thing and hear him out... But no... All sideliners/bystanders immediatly judge him and can't wait to just wish the most horrible things for him...
Sure it's fucked up IF he did it, but then again how fucked up are you if you personally want people to do the same to him? Seems to me y'all aint that much different than that guy...
Y'all don't know what goes on in that man's head, something that may seem completely logical to him could seem completely illogical to you and vice versa, does that mean that he has to die then...?
But hey, y'all are probably just people who believe in retarded shit like "fight fire with fire" (instead of water...)
That man needs help and nobody is willing to lend a helping hand...
But fuck it kill him for all I care, the world's better off with one less human wasting space like the rest of 'em...

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Reply #28 posted 06/17/04 1:43pm

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Neversin said

But fuck it kill him for all I care, the world's better off with one less human wasting space like the rest of 'em...



That is the smartest thing you have said on this thread thus far!
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Reply #29 posted 06/17/04 5:54pm

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I feel sorry for him too. Clearly, something is fucked up in his head, and nobody wants to be that way. His is also a life wasted. Sad all around.
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