http://news.yahoo.com/new...v_kimmel_6

These networks have seriously got their heads up their ass when they continue to randomly ban and block certain programs for extraneous "offensive" remarks. You could watch CSI and see a camera zoom inside the mangled corpse of some victim in all its gory glory, you can watch a TV evangelist make hateful remarks towards the homosexual population, you can see clips of US hostages getting their heads cut off, and noone apologizes. But Jimmy Kimmel makes light of some peoples fanatical responses to sporting events and he has to make a public apology and gets his program blocked for a day. WTF.

that is completely ridiculous -- pulled off the air? Stupid.

But you if they actually DO riot they'll broadcast footage of that on EVERY news progarm for the next 2 weeks. Will anyone apologize for that?

You can't say fucking anything nowadays without somebody complaining about being offended or not "Politically Correct" And he is a fucking comedian! Comedians have been talking shit for years! It's what they do Richard Pryor, Redd Foxx, Eddie Murphy, shit the whole fucking cast of the Daily show make jokes about everything, and Im surprised they aren't cancelled....Ugh it is freaking insane how anal everyone is now about what you say....

LittlePill said:

EXACTLY

People are pissed off because THE FORMER HOST OF THE MAN SHOW made a crack about sports fanatics? They don't get that it's, like, A JOKE??? They're so ignorant that they don't realize that Jimmy Kimmel's whole schtick is being a bonehead? Wotta buncha maroons.

*smacks clear channel and all media censors in general upside their heads*

I lived in the Detroit area for five years, so let me enlighten you as to why people were so pissed...

Detroit gets a VERY, VERY, VEEEERRRY bad--and undeserved--rap. It's easy to picture Detroit as one great big, giant, burnt-out shell of a city where if you walk down the road, you have a 60% chance of being mugged or raped. The truth is, is that Detroit has just as much as crime as any other city and that the people in Detroit are a very special breed. They HATE being dissed and they HATE outsiders who talk shit about their city. And actually, I used to be one of those "outsiders" until about a year after I moved there. Detroit is the coolest place I've ever lived...and I've lived in 5 states.

And by the way, Prince calls Detroit his "second hometown" so fuck you, Jimmy Kimmel. Besides, I'd rather watch The Wayne Brady Show anyway...

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. — I remember the flames following the Tigers' World Series clinching-win over the Padres in 1984, and I recall officials telling us to remain in Tiger Stadium beyond midnight to avoid the riot that was taking place outside the ballpark.

When we were allowed to leave the stadium with a police escort, I recall getting on the bus that Major League Baseball provided for the media, and listing back and forth as the crowd that surrounded the bus tried to tip it over.

Good thing we had a bunch of sportswriters who enjoy free food in the press box, because with that many heavyweights on board, there was no way that bus was going to tip.

That was 20 years ago, but it happened, and while I think Jimmy Kimmel deserves a big pat on the back for a history lesson in this day and age when history is often ignored, the folks in Detroit are in an uproar.

Kimmel told ABC interviewer Mike Tirico during halftime of Game 2, "Besides the fact I'm a Lakers' fan, I realize they're going to burn the city of Detroit down if the Pistons win. It's not worth it."

Of course, it's not worth it, which seemed like good advice. But Kimmel's comments inflamed, sorry, upset Detroit so much the local ABC affiliate, WXYZ, pulled Kimmel's show Wednesday, and replaced it with "The Wayne Brady Show." And you have to be pretty upset to replace anything with "The Wayne Brady Show."


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DISNEY ALSO pulled the Kimmel show nationally and replaced it with a rerun because Kimmel made some more disparaging remarks about Detroit in a show taped earlier in the day. I guess Disney is afraid the people here looking to escape Detroit won't visit their theme parks.

Meanwhile, TV announcers were calling for Kimmel's firing, and when one of them asked Tirico if Kimmel should be fired, instead of saying, "Are you nuts?" he said, that's up to other people, while indicating Kimmel "had hurt a whole city."

I'm surprised these people aren't in pain all the time. This place is a dump, looking at its best Thursday because the fog had moved in. You make the drive from the airport toward downtown, and it takes a great deal of will power not to make a U-turn home. I know that from experience.

They identify their roads here by how many miles they are from downtown Detroit, and when reaching 15 Mile Road, there's still 13 miles to go to get where the Pistons play their games. Twenty-eight miles from downtown Detroit is about right — in case Kimmel is correct.

Those familiar with Kimmel's comedic work know he had a knack for upsetting Terry Bradshaw on Fox's football pregame show. So did Jillian Barberie, and if she said the same thing Kimmel said, I'll bet a good number of Piston fans wouldn't be so eager to turn her off.

It's all shtick, the kind of thing Leno & Letterman do every night, and not to be taken seriously unless you're looking for a reason to get fired up. (I know, a poor choice of words).

Kimmel declined to be interviewed, and went belly up with an apology. (If he apologized for every joke gone bad, he'd be exhausted).

"What I said about Pistons fans during halftime last night was a joke, nothing more," Kimmel said in his statement. "If it offended anyone, I am sorry. Clearly, over the past 10 years, we in L.A. have taken a commanding lead in post-game riots. If the Lakers win, I plan to overturn my own car."

I'm guessing the ABC affiliate back home will not pull Kimmel for his disparaging comments about L.A.


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FOR A community so opposed to any mention of burning anything, the Pistons began pregame introductions with "Tonight Game 3" super-imposed over massive orange flames on the scoreboard.

When it came time to introduce the players, they had real fire shooting up in the air at each end of the court — the heat so intense you had to wonder if the flames were going to set Bob Lanier's jersey hanging from the ceiling on fire.

They sure do like their fire here.

Case said:

Exactly! Comming from someone who was born and raised in Detroit, you hit it right on! Detroit is probably the whipping boy of America and undeservingly so. Sure Detroit has problems just like any other city but for some reason, people that are not from here thoroughly enjoy talking negatively about this town. Detroiters are passionate hard working people that always seem to play the role of underdog and they will aggressively protect the city in which they live. We have seen this time and time again, so Im not surprised at all that ABC was flooded with emails and calls demanding an apology. Kimmel's remarks were not only inappropriate but they were ill-concieved. The city of Detroit hasnt "rioted" after a championship win for 14 or 15 years, while the city of Los Angeles looted and destroyed property in 2000, 2001 and 2002 following the Lakers wins. Detroit won the Stanley Cup in 1997, 1998, and 2002(and a WNBA championship in 2003) and there was no violence at all)

Detroiters are simply dead tired of being the butt of jokes by elitist out-of-towners and it simply showed this week. The ABC network yanked the show off of the air nationally and demanded that Kimmel apologize.I feel better now.

I'm from around Detroit and let me explain something.

The show should be taken off the air just becuase it is painfully bad. It hurts to watch and dare I saw that similar unfunny shows by African American hosts (remember "The Magic Hour") are laughed off the air very quickly and Jimmy has been on for a year and a half! I seriously don't think that he should have been taken off the air for his very offensive remark but just becuase he plain sucks and if anything, this is a good thing becuase it will give his horrid show some publcity!

Anxiety said:

They probably didn't realize it was a joke becuase he is so unfunny! Kind of like Bill Maher. Good, ABC can't get anything decent in that time slot. Clue, let's go for something different besides the straight 30-40 something white guys that think they are down to earth but aren't. I'm not saying bring back "The Magic Hour" but try something different!

VinnyM27 said:

Missing the point. Doesn't matter if you like the show or not. As long as it draws in high enough ratings for advertisers, and is profitable, it has a right to be on the air.

You know, i hate "The View" and I hate "Dr. Phil" and I hate many shows full of people with opinions that I don't care about or respect, but I do respect their choices to have those opinions and they are entitled to say them to whoever will listen.

For Jimmy to make a joke about sports fanaticism is far tamer than a lot of stuff I hear spewing from people's mouths.

Censorship has been taken way too far.

I don't see what's SO wrong w/ what he said. Silly ass sports fanatics riot everywhere whether their teams win or lose, it's not new.

I did find it questionable last night when he interviewed Chris Webber & Webber gave him an Isaiah Thomas Piston's jersey to wear over his suit. Jimmy put it on & made a comment that he looked like a complete fool & "needed to have his face painted."

Case said:

Wayne Brady.....honestly? lol

CalhounSq said:

I was born in Detroit and have lived here all my life...you really need to be from here to understand the context of what was said and WHY it affected us here so badly. It really has nothing to do with "silly ass-sports fanatics" and more to do with a city that has the biggest heart and the deepest soul and is spat upon and made the butt of jokes the world over. Before the 1968 riots Detroit was known as the Paris of the United States. The archetecture and wealth was grandiose but since then the city has been on a steep decline. Many people from outside come here and see it has nothing to offer but murder and robbery...that reputation is undeserved (as Case said.) HOWEVER...many, many artists, musicians, poets, actors, inventors, etc, etc, come from this city...and they are STILL coming from this city. Detroiters are FIERCELY proud of where we're from...and we should be.

My belongs to Detroit... to all my fellow Motor Babies!

Maybe this will help...

DESIREE COOPER: Perception of danger is often a crime

June 10, 2004


BY DESIREE COOPER
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST


I was enjoying the pleasant banter at the Detroit Regional Chamber's policy conference on Mackinac Island last weekend when Nancy White, chair of the Macomb County Board of Commissioners, said that one obstacle to regionalization is the fact that Detroit is No. 1 in crime. While admitting that the city has too many murders, Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick quickly retorted that Detroit is NOT the nation's crime leader.

The exchange shed more heat than light. Does Detroit deserve its reputation as the crime capital of the United States, or is its crime image exaggerated?

Detroit's not first
According to Kurt Metzger, research director at Wayne State University's Center for Urban Studies, Detroit is not the nation's crime leader. In 2002, the most crime-ridden city was St. Louis, followed by Atlanta, associated more with sunshine than with murder.

In fact, Detroit hasn't been first for a while. In 1999, it ranked seventh in Type I crimes like murder, rape and burglary, per 100,000 people. In 2002, it dropped to 14th nationwide, behind Salt Lake City and Orlando.

But, when you look at homicides only, the picture is markedly different, said Metzger. While still not the murder capital, Detroit has been bobbing between second and fourth since 1999. In 2002, the last year for which complete figures are available from the FBI, New Orleans was the murder capital (which it's been for three years running), followed by Washington, D.C.

"Let's admit it," said Metzger. "We're high in crime, but a lot of urban areas have high crime and they're cities that we wouldn't think twice about visiting. Atlanta is always worse in overall crime than Detroit, and only slightly better when it comes to homicides."

So what explains the intractable fear of crime when it comes to Detroit?

Psychology of safety
The media. The riots. Polarizing politicians. They all may offer some answers. But one answer is to look at the anatomy of fear.

Bob Kahle of Ferndale's Kahle Research Solutions has studied the gap between the perception and reality of fear.

"There are many factors that play into the perception of danger," said Kahle. "One of them is the belief that there is a risk of serious harm."

For example, the likelihood of getting panhandled may be high, but the resulting risk -- you either give away a quarter or you don't -- is low, he said. On the other hand, the likelihood of being a victim of a random shooting may be low, but the consequences are dire -- so the level of fear, however irrational, is high.

"Another factor that fuels fear of crime is social disorganization," said Kahle.

Social disorganization refers to the "broken windows" theory that abandoned buildings, shattered glass and trash-littered streets all feed the perception that things are out of control. An abandoned lot can inspire fear even if the area is crime-free.

"When you go to Atlanta, you don't see the same degree of social disorganization that you do in Detroit, and therefore people experience less fear when they travel there," he said.

Another key factor is inter-group conflict. "Senior citizens may feel vulnerable around teenagers," he said. "Women alone may feel vulnerable to men. And in Detroit, you've got to talk about race if you're talking about fear of crime."

The bottom line is that Detroit has two crime problems. Even if we deal with the actual crime rate, Detroit's reputation is unlikely to change until we confront the fear itself.



http://www.freep.com/news...040610.htm


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Bottom line: More executives think city is worth working in



BY DANIEL G. FRICKER
Free Press Business Writer


Phil Daddona, a native New Yorker, had a typical reaction when an executive recruiter called him about a job in Detroit.


"When he said the job was in Detroit, my immediate reaction was negative," he said recently.


Daddona's view changed when he came to Detroit for interviews. He has been chief information officer at Detroit's MCN Energy Group since April.


"I got a chance to see the broader Detroit metropolitan area and frankly it's lovely," Daddona said. "I ended up living in Grosse Pointe and it reminds me in many ways of the neighborhood I grew up in in Brooklyn."


Daddona's story illustrates two points:



Executive search firms say it is easier today to recruit top talent to come to Detroit.


The city's image, while improving, remains poor.

"Our experience today is metro Detroit is a much more attractive market than it was five years ago," said Dennis Sullivan, chief executive officer of Sullivan Associates in Birmingham, the state's largest executive search firm.


"The reason it is more attractive is the positive national press it's received. It's amazing but it only takes a couple of articles in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and the Chicago Tribune."


Dave Haggard, senior consultant at Interim Services Inc. in Troy, said Detroit's reputation as the nation's murder capital has waned, making it easier to persuade executives to consider jobs in the region.


"I just don't see as much reluctance initially as we saw five, six, seven years ago," he said. "So it allows us to get past that initial statement and get to that opportunity itself."


Internationally, the region enjoys a good reputation, he said.


"Detroit is really the engineering capital of the U.S.," Haggard said. "In the European community, Detroit really has a more favorable reputation than many other cities in the U.S."


Recruiters said Mayor Dennis Archer's 1993 election was the turning point in Detroit's national image. Newspaper stories about the city's revitalization followed within a year. Led by the auto industry, the region's robust economy offered good-paying jobs to executives willing to relocate.


"Clearly, Detroit is not San Diego in February," said Steve Armstrong, vice president and regional manager of Kelly Services in Troy. "But from an employment standpoint, it is extremely healthy. It is perceived to be so positive here that people are excited about coming here and to all of southeastern Michigan."


Two years ago, Dick Blouse was recruited for the job of president and chief executive officer of the Greater Detroit Chamber of Commerce. Blouse initially balked at the offer because the Lancaster, Pa., native enjoyed the mild winters of Greenville, S.C., where he worked.


But Blouse said he was impressed by Archer, the Midwestern honesty of the people, "some really neat neighborhoods" in Detroit, the city's cultural institutions and the town's excitement at the prospect of a revitalization.


A dozen years ago, it was almost impossible to recruit people from elsewhere for a job in Detroit, said Tom McNulty, chief financial officer of Henry Ford Health System. Job candidates were concerned about the 1967 riot and the administration of former Mayor Coleman Young, he said.


"Now, I think it's almost a normal recruit," said McNulty, who arrived from Chicago in 1983.


He said job candidates like the Midwest because people are down to earth and friendly. He said Detroit still lacks the amenities and ambience of East Coast and West Coast cities but is coming back. One of the biggest constant obstacles, though, is the cold winters.


"The fact that we're finally getting a Hard Rock Cafe; we're finally being recognized as a destination," McNulty said.




http://www.freep.com/news...exec21.htm

Detroit can kiss my Brooklyn ass!

2the9s said:

Yes...Detroit could but, never would...

applekisses said:

2the9s said:

Sorry... It's just the way of things...

Oh, and shut it...

savoirfaire said:

Of course I understood the point. I was making a joke (something he couldn't see coming from a mile away). If ABC stations had a right to take off "offensive" episodes of "Ellen" and "Roseanne" that they didn't like, I guess they have that right and quite frankly, those episodes showing acted out lesbian kisses aren't as threatening as a some fat pompous white guy accusing a whole city of being animals. That doesn't make it right but keep this in mind when stations in the south pull off shows with gay content or back in the day when they wouldn't run some episode of some white lady (Diana Shore?) singing with a love duet close to a black man (possibly Harry Belafonte). That stuff sucks but it happens and again, not as bad as what he said. Just make sure you keep tabs when you defend Jimmy. THis shit happens all the time.

applekisses said:

Thank you. I don't think he should have been taken off the air (although it was only fucking one day..the cry baby bitch) but his comments had more to do with Detroit's terrible rap lately than "sports fanatism".

VinnyM27 said:

All I know is the SAME thing could have been said about the Oakland Raiders (where I'm from) & I still wouldn't have seen it as a big deal. Oakland gets a bad rap too - I don't know if it's as bad as Detroit, but still bad. Regardless, dropping the dude from the air is a bit much IMO...

CalhounSq said:

If all he said was what was quoted in the article I posted, it's a complete overreaction on ABC's part.

dreamfactory313 said:

Whatever happend to wisdom in the adage "Sticks and stones" or for that matter, being able to distinguish a joke (even a bad joke) from acutley disparaging and harmful remarks? There is NEVER any reason to "feel better" about censorship. Why is everyone forgetting that one of the rights this country is founded on is the freedom of speech... and yes, that includes jokes by late-night talk show hosts. Disney is always uptight, nothing new there - but good Chirst, has Clear Channel slipped a mickey in Detroit's tap water? Pulling Jimmy Kimmel off the air for that is what's really obscene.

Supernova said:

YEA, what she said!!