Well.....

To be more precise I very much dislike the way in which people use to the word "gay" to express negative things, or opinionate on things negatively.

I'll give an example....

My two closest friends are 22 and 23. I view them to be intelligent people, but they can come over as so ignorant sometimes, especially when they say things like, ".....the colour blue is so gay...." , "....lighten up, stop being gay...." , "....those shoes your wearing are fucking gay...."
etc etc etc....

Ive had plenty of gay friends in my time. Being a Prince fan I kind of got used to meeting gay people years ago and it really bugs the hell out of me to hear people use this word in such a derogatory manner.

I dont know about in the US or elsewhere in the world but this seems to be how it is with people in the UK at the moment. Youth in particular of course.

sad.

Is "Love Juice" andything like Pimp Juice?


...Just wondering.

I think it's fine and I know gay people who use it in the same sense, too.

I think it's overtly politically correct to worry about it.

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[This message was edited Sun May 23 18:32:32 2004 by mrdespues]

mrdespues said:

queer filmmmaker/photographer bruce la bruce has a really funny essay called "'gay' as in, you know, stupid" that goes in-depth in explaining the therapeutic value of homosexuals embracing the use of the word "gay" to mean, you know, "stupid".

they're only words, folks - they only have as much power as you give 'em.

Anxiety said:

That sounds gay!

Anxiety said:

This thread's so gay

I think it sounds stupid as hell to say "gay" when you mean stupid. To me, it's similar to saying you got gypped or Jewed when you mean ripped off. I don't think it's excessively poilitically correct to be bothered by it, because it is meant in a demeaning way by most people who say it.

meow85 said:

change the word "most" to "many" and i'll agree.

otherwise, i'ma keep saying it cause it's funny and i mean no harm.

i love fags.

mrdespues said:

Well alright then. MANY. But you get my point.

The thing that I find amusing is that everyone I know that uses that word to connotate something being lame or stupid, does so in a very tongue in cheek way. Its the fact that its soooo 8th grade to use the word that way that makes it funny. In fact, the two people I know who use it the most are homosexual. (they also use the word "faggot", but only with each other. I would never dream of using it, even with them.)

Weird how words can bother some people, and not even phase others. Where do you draw the line? Should you let words bother you, or should you adopt them, thus taking the sting out of them?? Good topic for debate in the P&R discussion.

i hate the word happy

It kinda turns me on when *straight* guys keep refering to everthing as "gay". Chances are, they're closet cases... In which case I can daydream...

Tom said:

Good point! I've noticed, since I've been doing my play, that a WHOLE lotta straight guys have insecurities with their sexuality (the cool thing is, doing this role has allowed me the opportunity to see things from a gay man's perspective). Personally, I don't get why folks are threatened. If you are secure in your sexuality, what's the problem???

JediMaster said:

i don't know why straight men are so homophobic but i've always suspected that part of it is that men aren't used to being the "prey" in sexual situations. straight men are used to coming on to women and, in my experience, the most homophobic men usually have the worst intentions when it comes to women. they feel that a gay man will treat them the same way they treat women and that scares them. Straight men who know how to treat a woman with respect aren't usually the homophobes who refer to everything they don't like as 'gay'.

I dated a guy once who was afraid that he would turn gay if he had sex with a man. I was like, "why would you want to have sex with a man in the first place if you're not gay?" our relationship didn't last long. he left me for a girl who doesn't ask so many questions.

No problem. I constantly go... "Oh... that's so straight!"... or "A bit more bland and people will think you're straight."... or "Why are we so bored? We're not a straight couple living in suburbia."... or "The Org's sooo straight today!"