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Reply #30 posted 05/21/04 10:52am

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AlfofMelmak said:

Drugs alone will not solve your issues. You [color=red:78dbb100a9]MUST[/color] learn a new behavioral pattern to learn to live with your problems whilst under the influence of the anti-depressants. You can only achieve this with help of a professional psychotherapist. Just drugs wont help you in the long run.

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Reply #31 posted 05/21/04 11:14am

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Great idea! Please have the doctor give you a check up. Good luck.
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Reply #32 posted 05/21/04 11:16am

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The sexual side effects suck, I get freequent panic attacks and the medication they used to give me curbed all sexual inhibitions I had , Good Luck lol

i hear ya there, about the sex drive sigh when i take my meds, i never want sex. its a rough trade off, sex, or be depressed --- worse yet, when you do get in the mood, orgasm is damn near impossible --- sometimes life is very unfair !!!

but, girl, if you need the help, get it nod because, lifes to damn short to be unhappy rose


In that case you might have the wrong medication or you're mentaly not there yet, my sex live is greater than it ever was before. And I thank it to the medication and therapy I have. It's just that I can feel so much more relaxed about sex now, I do advice you to go for it. What if you don't like to have sex for a year or so, as long as you know after that it will be so much better than before!!!!

Best of luck with it hug Love Eva
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Reply #33 posted 05/21/04 11:39am

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Good luck with the meds,,,

I am familiar with a few,,Celexa worked good for me,,but killed my sex drive,,so I stopped~~

I got through a few months with nothing,,,,but I have HORRID mood swings, & then when my mum passed away, everything fell apart~ I was crying all the time,,(sometimes still do) sad

I tried Effexor for 4 wks,,it gave me bad dreams. so Im trying wellbutrin now. Its all trial & error~~

No I dont feel like a Failure for taking meds,,as some people would like me to think. Only YOU know what is best for you. I have tried the "exersise, the SUN,, vitamins,, positive thinking...etc.. Some people are just more inclined to be depressed...or Manic-depresive~

Hang in there~~ wink
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Reply #34 posted 05/21/04 12:02pm

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VinaBlue said:

AlfofMelmak said:



Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins, nothing more, nothing less. Humans can synthesize most of the amino acids themselves, but for a few who you need to ingest. It's virtually impossible to come up with a diet without these essential amino acids (otherwise we humans would have kicked the evolutionairy bucket a long time ago)

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Yes, but some of us still have deficiencies in our brain chemistry. All I know is I felt a LOT better after applying what I learned in this book.


Just glanced over it, some of it is at least molecular biology-proof wink Seriously though, you're right of course. If your body or brain is lacking something or is inhibited by overdosis of molecules (chocolate, caffeine are indeed known examples) a sensible diet may help you a lot. Good to hear you felt a lot better. hug

Oh and i read your comments about medication: keep two things in mind. Not everything is cured by a diet and a very large chunk of medicines are just purified chemicals originallly found in nature. Ingest them though a diet or through a pill, sometimes doesn't matter much.
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Reply #35 posted 05/21/04 12:17pm

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NEWPOWERBABY said:

yeah anti depressants is just like any other drug, a cover up 4 people who can't deal with their real issues.

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I understand what you are saying, but I don't completely agree. Some folks can't deal with their problems, but others (like myself), have to deal with panic attacks and depression even when things are going well. Its a brain chemistry problem, and medication helps. Now, I do think too many doctors go around shoving these off on to people who are just going through a hard time? Absolutely! My mom has my little brother on all sorts of crap, and it really pisses me off. He is a kid, and should be allowed to live his life like a kid.

I don't think everyone should be on this stuff, but if you are feeling horrible panic at weird times (even when nothing is wrong) then medication can help. Likewise, if you entertain suicidal thoughts at times when your life is actually going well, then you need some sort of treatment plan, and all the therapy in the world won't help, when what is wrong with you is biological.

Vina has a good point about diet and exercise. These can help immensly. I was EXTREMELY resistant to going on meds, and suffered with these problems for years. I tried special diets and supplements, but they didn't help Finally, my best friend (who is a PA), convinced me to at least try one, and it did wonders. Its not for everyone, but in some cases its a Godsend.
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Reply #36 posted 05/21/04 12:18pm

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AlfofMelmak said:

VinaBlue said:


Yes, but some of us still have deficiencies in our brain chemistry. All I know is I felt a LOT better after applying what I learned in this book.


Just glanced over it, some of it is at least molecular biology-proof wink Seriously though, you're right of course. If your body or brain is lacking something or is inhibited by overdosis of molecules (chocolate, caffeine are indeed known examples) a sensible diet may help you a lot. Good to hear you felt a lot better. hug

Oh and i read your comments about medication: keep two things in mind. Not everything is cured by a diet and a very large chunk of medicines are just purified chemicals originallly found in nature. Ingest them though a diet or through a pill, sometimes doesn't matter much.


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Reply #37 posted 05/21/04 12:21pm

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JediMaster said:

NEWPOWERBABY said:

yeah anti depressants is just like any other drug, a cover up 4 people who can't deal with their real issues.

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[This message was edited Fri May 21 10:09:55 2004 by NEWPOWERBABY]


I understand what you are saying, but I don't completely agree. Some folks can't deal with their problems, but others (like myself), have to deal with panic attacks and depression even when things are going well. Its a brain chemistry problem, and medication helps. Now, I do think too many doctors go around shoving these off on to people who are just going through a hard time? Absolutely! My mom has my little brother on all sorts of crap, and it really pisses me off. He is a kid, and should be allowed to live his life like a kid.

I don't think everyone should be on this stuff, but if you are feeling horrible panic at weird times (even when nothing is wrong) then medication can help. Likewise, if you entertain suicidal thoughts at times when your life is actually going well, then you need some sort of treatment plan, and all the therapy in the world won't help, when what is wrong with you is biological.

Vina has a good point about diet and exercise. These can help immensly. I was EXTREMELY resistant to going on meds, and suffered with these problems for years. I tried special diets and supplements, but they didn't help Finally, my best friend (who is a PA), convinced me to at least try one, and it did wonders. Its not for everyone, but in some cases its a Godsend.


well put -- I completely agree.
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Reply #38 posted 05/21/04 12:21pm

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AlfofMelmak said:

VinaBlue said:


Yes, but some of us still have deficiencies in our brain chemistry. All I know is I felt a LOT better after applying what I learned in this book.


Just glanced over it, some of it is at least molecular biology-proof wink Seriously though, you're right of course. If your body or brain is lacking something or is inhibited by overdosis of molecules (chocolate, caffeine are indeed known examples) a sensible diet may help you a lot. Good to hear you felt a lot better. hug

Oh and i read your comments about medication: keep two things in mind. Not everything is cured by a diet and a very large chunk of medicines are just purified chemicals originallly found in nature. Ingest them though a diet or through a pill, sometimes doesn't matter much.


Cool! Do you know which anti-depressents are "purified" chemicals??
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Reply #39 posted 05/21/04 12:33pm

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madartista said:

JediMaster said:


words of wisdom


well put -- I completely agree.


You guys are lucky you don't have to deal with your periods too. lol

I've been fighting the urge to be depressed all day. Nothings wrong, I just feel like caca.
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Reply #40 posted 05/21/04 12:34pm

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VinaBlue said:

madartista said:



well put -- I completely agree.


You guys are lucky you don't have to deal with your periods too. lol

I've been fighting the urge to be depressed all day. Nothings wrong, I just feel like caca.



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Reply #41 posted 05/21/04 12:38pm

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butterfli25 said:

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You guys are lucky you don't have to deal with your periods too. lol

I've been fighting the urge to be depressed all day. Nothings wrong, I just feel like caca.



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hug Thank u, that helps. smile
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Reply #42 posted 05/21/04 12:38pm

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VinaBlue said:

madartista said:



well put -- I completely agree.


You guys are lucky you don't have to deal with your periods too. lol

I've been fighting the urge to be depressed all day. Nothings wrong, I just feel like caca.


Yes. I feel fortunate that I don't have that added aggravation.

I'm feeling you right now my dear. I feel exactly the same way. hug
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Reply #43 posted 05/21/04 12:41pm

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JediMaster said:

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You guys are lucky you don't have to deal with your periods too. lol

I've been fighting the urge to be depressed all day. Nothings wrong, I just feel like caca.


Yes. I feel fortunate that I don't have that added aggravation.

I'm feeling you right now my dear. I feel exactly the same way. hug


Yeah, us women are naturally crazy. lol

hug kisses Keep yo head up. wink

I was gonna call you a few nights ago when I was having an episode... I ended up getting a hold of another friend and she asked me if my period was starting soon. lol She made me laugh and helped me put things in perspective.

hug Hope all is going well with you.
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Reply #44 posted 05/21/04 12:44pm

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Yes. I feel fortunate that I don't have that added aggravation.

I'm feeling you right now my dear. I feel exactly the same way. hug


Yeah, us women are naturally crazy. lol

hug kisses Keep yo head up. wink

I was gonna call you a few nights ago when I was having an episode... I ended up getting a hold of another friend and she asked me if my period was starting soon. lol She made me laugh and helped me put things in perspective.

hug Hope all is going well with you.


Well, I'm glad you got a hold of someone, but know that you can always call me. I had a pretty bad episode last night myself.
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Reply #45 posted 05/21/04 12:48pm

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To be honest Ive had some experience with this . I was taking prozac , mirtazapan and another I cant remember for around 2 years and the whole time I was taking them everything was a blur , its almost as if those 2 or 3 years didnt really exist .

The side affects were a complete nightmare , my anxiety attacks increased dramatically as did my body size and my self esteem was totally down the crapper . I really dont feel that they helped me at all other than " numb me out " which is at the time what I wanted , but realistically it really didnt help my situation .

Eventually I managed to ween myself off the medication and I do feel better for it although do still suffer from nasty bouts of depression that can last for days and days . My advise is as hard as it is try some other form of help , but ultimately its up to you

Just my 2 cents worth

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Reply #46 posted 05/21/04 1:30pm

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Good luck to you.Because I've been there(and still am)Everybody's body makeup is so different,anti-depressants can be great or not effective at all.But dealing with chronic pain since 1996,will cause you to be depressed.I thought I would never need anti-depressants,pain medication either.So all the people who think people are "weak" because they want help,don't know shit.Cause I said the same thing prior to my problems.
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Reply #47 posted 05/21/04 4:22pm

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Here's my thing peeps.. I have always had medical problems but well Mom and Dad never told me stuff. O.K. I get Seixures. I'm Epileptic, So I never had Medication, parents Never told me, Next Depression so like I took Prozac and it was 20 mil right well didn't work but when I went to 40 I had a SEVERE Seixure and Had to Go to the HOSPITAL.. DRUGS I Cannot for I'm gonna be in the HOSPITAL... So people Drugging I Cannot be Around.. After I had my Child my Hormones I guess got Fucked Up... I have been SEVERELY Dpressed now for almost 6 years. It's Not good. Celexor is also No Good. Maybe Zoloft will help. I actually took Vicadan for an Operation and well it was Soo Lovely I wanted it More and More. I'm Not a Druggie or anything.. Just that I was in Pain and Not Knowing what to do after Surgery that was VERY PAINFUL. I Realize now that Doctors Can Really help and I better start Going to them instead of My Own NATURAL HEALING RITUALS.. Because although Chocolate is Good well and Alcohol Deadens the Pain of my Knee well it's Not a Solution. But I had 2 operations on my Knees don't ya know before I was healed I got Hurt and fell on one again? It Never Healed. I am Scared of another Operation cause Rehab Hurts and is a long Process. I was Scared the first time when they told me Bend down and I waited sooo long to do that. It was soo tight. I kinda believe in Chiropractors and Acupucture and Massage and all the Herbs from the Indians. I'm gonna try St John's Wort again. I Just wanna Smile and be Happy Again like I was...
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Reply #48 posted 05/21/04 4:31pm

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Zelaira said:

Because Depression Sucks. I hope whatever he gives me doesn't have Sexual Side Effects. Maybe I am Bi-Polar..One Day Happy Next Sad. Cannot take this Any longer.

hug I know from experience that anti-depressants can really help. there's a lot of bullshit around about side effects and stuff but if U know you're depressed that's half the battle. Best of luck,

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Reply #49 posted 05/21/04 4:36pm

Zelaira

Thank you. I am Sick of Fronting about my Depression and my pain in my body. I gotta start going to Doctors and Not Being like some MaRTYr. I Don't wanna be some Amazon Woman anymore.. I need Help with stuff. I Need Friends and Support Groups. I am sick Of BEING ALONE!!! Being ALONE SUCkS and well I just gotta let people who Love me be around to help me. I just well I Need Hugs...
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Reply #50 posted 05/21/04 7:29pm

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Maybe the Doc can take some pictures of you while he's at it? biggrin
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Reply #51 posted 05/21/04 8:04pm

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Maybe the Doc can take some pictures of you while he's at it? biggrin

falloff that was bad!

Take care of yourself, Z hug
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Reply #52 posted 05/21/04 9:02pm

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Take care zelaira.Seems like you've had a rough life.Don't feel bad about taking the pain meds,if your in physical pain.Not everybody gets "addicted" More media bullshit mad I know this from first hand experience.

Ps,friends are very imporant.I'm battling the "lack of friends" thing myself.
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