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Do u think it's irresponsible if a girl doesn't know who her baby's father is ? y'all seen those maury shows, what i hate is how maury gives the girl some sensitive attention, makes the guy look bad, excuse u, i don't care what anybody says if the girl doesn't know who her baby's father is then it means she's being a hoe and irresponsible for her own body, that's just my opinnon. | |
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that's usually not a good sign. | |
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i think it's preferable, actually. | |
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Anxiety said: i think it's preferable, actually.
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If your not responsible enough to keep track of who you have been fuckin, then you sure as hell have no business having children. I think its more along the lines of being ignorant.
Be a whore or be a parent, you cant be both. | |
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nesseone said: If your not responsible enough to keep track of who you have been fuckin, then you sure as hell have no business having children. I think its more along the lines of being ignorant.
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Mizzunderstood said: Anxiety said: i think it's preferable, actually.
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nesseone said: If your not responsible enough to keep track of who you have been fuckin, then you sure as hell have no business having children. I think its more along the lines of being ignorant.
Be a whore or be a parent, you cant be both. Then again, perhaps a woman has been with 2 men in a relatively short timespan. It only takes 2 to not be absolutely sure. I have a client who stopped drinking because she had a problem with it, then about a year later she fell off the wagon and drank one night and slept with her boyfriend's best friend. She's not a hoe, she's not ignorant, but she made some bad choices. One thing's for sure--if men had the babies, there'd be even more DNA testing being done!  | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: nesseone said: If your not responsible enough to keep track of who you have been fuckin, then you sure as hell have no business having children. I think its more along the lines of being ignorant.
Be a whore or be a parent, you cant be both. Then again, perhaps a woman has been with 2 men in a relatively short timespan. It only takes 2 to not be absolutely sure. I have a client who stopped drinking because she had a problem with it, then about a year later she fell off the wagon and drank one night and slept with her boyfriend's best friend. She's not a hoe, she's not ignorant, but she made some bad choices. One thing's for sure--if men had the babies, there'd be even more DNA testing being done! if she's sleeping with 2 men, she's most likely cheating on someone, cheating is cheating, there's no good way u can go around that, first there's the lie, then comes baby, then comes in the DNA test , some people just need 2 stop it's not fair 2 the child, because of the mother who made bad choices | |
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It's hard to know who the father is when the girl sleeps with more than one guy. 
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luv4u said: It's hard to know who the father is when the girl sleeps with more than one guy.
that's why i said it's irresponsible, u should always know how many condoms u still have left and how many guys u slept with and who u slept with. i don't care if it's 20 men, u should know all 20 men and when u slept with them | |
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Mizzunderstood said: AnotherLoverToo said: Then again, perhaps a woman has been with 2 men in a relatively short timespan. It only takes 2 to not be absolutely sure. I have a client who stopped drinking because she had a problem with it, then about a year later she fell off the wagon and drank one night and slept with her boyfriend's best friend. She's not a hoe, she's not ignorant, but she made some bad choices. One thing's for sure--if men had the babies, there'd be even more DNA testing being done! if she's sleeping with 2 men, she's most likely cheating on someone, cheating is cheating, there's no good way u can go around that, first there's the lie, then comes baby, then comes in the DNA test , some people just need 2 stop it's not fair 2 the child, because of the mother who made bad choices She slept with the other guy one time only, it was the only time she cheated on her boyfriend. Let's remember, it takes two to get pregnant. Calling a woman a whore doesn't change what happened or make a woman stop having sex, especially if she feels that's the only thing she's valuable for. | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Mizzunderstood said: if she's sleeping with 2 men, she's most likely cheating on someone, cheating is cheating, there's no good way u can go around that, first there's the lie, then comes baby, then comes in the DNA test , some people just need 2 stop it's not fair 2 the child, because of the mother who made bad choices She slept with the other guy one time only, it was the only time she cheated on her boyfriend. Let's remember, it takes two to get pregnant. Calling a woman a whore doesn't change what happened or make a woman stop having sex, especially if she feels that's the only thing she's valuable for. it should make her think twice before having another one though, cuz some women would just keep doing it and still not learn from the mistake, that's when it's a wrong thing to do. Then imagine the child who has 2 go through life not really knowing who his father is. [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 23:39:22 2004 by Mizzunderstood] | |
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Mizzunderstood said: luv4u said: It's hard to know who the father is when the girl sleeps with more than one guy.
that's why i said it's irresponsible, u should always know how many condoms u still have left and how many guys u slept with and who u slept with. i don't care if it's 20 men, u should know all 20 men and when u slept with them But see, that's the thing, if you slept with 2 men or 20 men in one or two weeks, and even if you used condoms, it's possible not to know which of them is the father even if you know exactly whom you slept with, because all you have to go on is the due date which is based on if you remember when your last period was. Then they estimate when you got pregnant, but they usually can't tell you exactly when you got pregnant until later, when you get an ultrasound. | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Mizzunderstood said: that's why i said it's irresponsible, u should always know how many condoms u still have left and how many guys u slept with and who u slept with. i don't care if it's 20 men, u should know all 20 men and when u slept with them But see, that's the thing, if you slept with 2 men or 20 men in one or two weeks, and even if you used condoms, it's possible not to know which of them is the father even if you know exactly whom you slept with, because all you have to go on is the due date which is based on if you remember when your last period was. Then they estimate when you got pregnant, but they usually can't tell you exactly when you got pregnant until later, when you get an ultrasound. that's why i don't sleep around cuz when i have a child i'm going to know who my baby daddy is I'm going to wait until marraige so I don't have 2 worry about when the condom breaks, The more I think about it it's just best to wait, not just cuz of religion, but cuz of the situation in a whole. | |
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Mizzunderstood said: AnotherLoverToo said: But see, that's the thing, if you slept with 2 men or 20 men in one or two weeks, and even if you used condoms, it's possible not to know which of them is the father even if you know exactly whom you slept with, because all you have to go on is the due date which is based on if you remember when your last period was. Then they estimate when you got pregnant, but they usually can't tell you exactly when you got pregnant until later, when you get an ultrasound. that's why i don't sleep around cuz when i have a child i'm going to know who my baby daddy is I'm going to wait until marraige so I don't have 2 worry about when the condom breaks, The more I think about it it's just best to wait, not just cuz of religion, but cuz of the situation in a whole. Well, you know, that's great and I'm glad you don't sleep around. But Lisa, I also seem to recall on a thread about what you'd change about yourself, you said you wouldn't change anything, but then you go on to say you'd change things about others: namely, that they wouldn't be so judgemental and would stay out of other people's business. But look at you here..... | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Mizzunderstood said: that's why i don't sleep around cuz when i have a child i'm going to know who my baby daddy is I'm going to wait until marraige so I don't have 2 worry about when the condom breaks, The more I think about it it's just best to wait, not just cuz of religion, but cuz of the situation in a whole. Well, you know, that's great and I'm glad you don't sleep around. But Lisa, I also seem to recall on a thread about what you'd change about yourself, you said you wouldn't change anything, but then you go on to say you'd change things about others: namely, that they wouldn't be so judgemental and would stay out of other people's business. But look at you here..... look it doesn't make a difference to me what u do in bed, but at least know who ur baby father is cuz it's irresponsible, that's all. | |
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Mizzunderstood said: AnotherLoverToo said: Well, you know, that's great and I'm glad you don't sleep around. But Lisa, I also seem to recall on a thread about what you'd change about yourself, you said you wouldn't change anything, but then you go on to say you'd change things about others: namely, that they wouldn't be so judgemental and would stay out of other people's business. But look at you here..... look it doesn't make a difference to me what u do in bed, but at least know who ur baby father is cuz it's irresponsible, that's all. even if it;s more then one | |
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Mizzunderstood said: AnotherLoverToo said: Well, you know, that's great and I'm glad you don't sleep around. But Lisa, I also seem to recall on a thread about what you'd change about yourself, you said you wouldn't change anything, but then you go on to say you'd change things about others: namely, that they wouldn't be so judgemental and would stay out of other people's business. But look at you here..... look it doesn't make a difference to me what u do in bed, but at least know who ur baby father is cuz it's irresponsible, that's all. How does it affect you personally, when a woman doesn't know? I mean, why do you say you hate it when other people judge each other, but then you do it. And remember, when she DOES know who the father is, that doesn't necessarily mean that the father is going to want to be in that child's life or pay child support. [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 23:49:52 2004 by AnotherLoverToo] | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Mizzunderstood said: look it doesn't make a difference to me what u do in bed, but at least know who ur baby father is cuz it's irresponsible, that's all. How does it affect you personally, when a woman doesn't know? And when she DOES know, that doesn't necessarily mean that the father is going to want to be in that child's life or pay child support. it effects cuz i feel for the child who had to go through life without knowing his father, even if the father isn't in the child's life, the child will know, he could maybe get to know about his family, which will give him more of a sense of who he is. If u don't know who u father is, it's like having this whole inside u can never fill unless u know, that's why kids who adopted always go looking for the real parents, cuz it's so important to know, even if in the end the father doesn't choose 2 be apart of the child's life. [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 23:53:22 2004 by Mizzunderstood] | |
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Mizzunderstood said: AnotherLoverToo said: How does it affect you personally, when a woman doesn't know? And when she DOES know, that doesn't necessarily mean that the father is going to want to be in that child's life or pay child support. it effects cuz i feel for the child who had to go through without knowing his father, even if ithe father isn't in the child's life, the child will know, he could maybe get to know about his family, which will give him more of a sense of who he is. If u don't know who u father is, it's like having this whole inside u can never fill unless u know, that's why kids who adopted always go looking for the real parents, cuz it's so important to know, even if in the end the father doesn't choose 2 be apart of the child's life. Well, that's what DNA testing is for. The court can order a man to take a test to determine paternity so that he can be a part of the child's life (if that's what all parties want). Remember, though, there are lots of kids whose mamas know the fathers, but the fathers made a conscious decision not to be around. Those kids live with the knowledge that their daddy didn't want anything to do with them. On the other hand, there are some guys who treat their girlfriend's/wife's children from other relationships just like they would treat their own. [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 23:57:41 2004 by AnotherLoverToo] | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Mizzunderstood said: it effects cuz i feel for the child who had to go through without knowing his father, even if ithe father isn't in the child's life, the child will know, he could maybe get to know about his family, which will give him more of a sense of who he is. If u don't know who u father is, it's like having this whole inside u can never fill unless u know, that's why kids who adopted always go looking for the real parents, cuz it's so important to know, even if in the end the father doesn't choose 2 be apart of the child's life. Well, that's what DNA testing is for. The court can order a man to take a test to determine paternity so that he can be a part of the child's life (if that's what all parties want). Remember, though, there are lots of kids whose mamas know the fathers, but the fathers made a conscious decision not to be around. Those kids live with the knowledge that their daddy didn't want anything to do with them. On the other hand, there are some guys who treat their girlfriend's/wife's children from other relationships just like they would treat their own. [This message was edited Sat Apr 24 23:57:41 2004 by AnotherLoverToo] true but my piont is u wouldn't have 2 get the dna if u weren't sleeping around, not that i'm saying u have to be some kind of prude or something, just know cuz of cases like these. | |
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Mizzunderstood said: y'all seen those maury shows, what i hate is how maury gives the girl some sensitive attention, makes the guy look bad, excuse u, i don't care what anybody says if the girl doesn't know who her baby's father is then it means she's being a hoe and irresponsible for her own body, that's just my opinnon.
All depends on the situation really.Some situations its probably good his sorry ass isnt around.I do here what your saying but as long as the baby is being cared for and all there needs seen to thats that.Maybe she dosent want to no?Shit I've slept with more than five different women in a week before,why cant a woman do that?I was young n stupid and made a mistake.See when a woman does that the mistake can be getting pregnant.I dont watch those shows but I know the straight ignorance they parade out there and in that setting I really feel bad for the babies. | |
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crazyhorse said: Mizzunderstood said: y'all seen those maury shows, what i hate is how maury gives the girl some sensitive attention, makes the guy look bad, excuse u, i don't care what anybody says if the girl doesn't know who her baby's father is then it means she's being a hoe and irresponsible for her own body, that's just my opinnon.
All depends on the situation really.Some situations its probably good his sorry ass isnt around.I do here what your saying but as long as the baby is being cared for and all there needs seen to thats that.Maybe she dosent want to no?Shit I've slept with more than five different women in a week before,why cant a woman do that?I was young n stupid and made a mistake.See when a woman does that the mistake can be getting pregnant.I dont watch those shows but I know the straight ignorance they parade out there and in that setting I really feel bad for the babies. yeah me 2, that's all what i've been trying to say, It's really about the kids. u only want the best for the children. [This message was edited Sun Apr 25 0:04:09 2004 by Mizzunderstood] | |
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Well, of course the ideal in our society is to have one sex partner and raise a family together. But I work with pregnant women and families, and I know life can get complicated--human beings are sometimes irrational and make poor decisions. What makes a good parent(s) is love and maturity and hard work. You might be surprised how many women change things around and shape up their lives when they get pregnant, out of love and concern for their child.
The Maury Povitch show isn't exactly a good source of material about women, sex, pregnancy and relationships, imo..... | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Well, of course the ideal in our society is to have one sex partner and raise a family together. But I work with pregnant women and families, and I know life can get complicated--human beings are sometimes irrational and make poor decisions. What makes a good parent(s) is love and maturity and hard work. You might be surprised how many women change things around and shape up their lives when they get pregnant, out of love and concern for their child.
The Maury Povitch show isn't exactly a good source of material about women, sex, pregnancy and relationships, imo..... yeah i know, i just made that as a example btw | |
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crazyhorse said: Mizzunderstood said: y'all seen those maury shows, what i hate is how maury gives the girl some sensitive attention, makes the guy look bad, excuse u, i don't care what anybody says if the girl doesn't know who her baby's father is then it means she's being a hoe and irresponsible for her own body, that's just my opinnon.
All depends on the situation really.Some situations its probably good his sorry ass isnt around.I do here what your saying but as long as the baby is being cared for and all there needs seen to thats that.Maybe she dosent want to no?Shit I've slept with more than five different women in a week before,why cant a woman do that?I was young n stupid and made a mistake.See when a woman does that the mistake can be getting pregnant.I dont watch those shows but I know the straight ignorance they parade out there and in that setting I really feel bad for the babies. Exactly. Because men don't get pregnant, they don't get the social stigma about unwanted pregnancies and they can just walk away from the situation if they don't want to deal with it. They can and do sleep with many women in a week or month, and the more babies they have, the more studly and manly people see him as (even if he's not taking care of his kids). | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: crazyhorse said: All depends on the situation really.Some situations its probably good his sorry ass isnt around.I do here what your saying but as long as the baby is being cared for and all there needs seen to thats that.Maybe she dosent want to no?Shit I've slept with more than five different women in a week before,why cant a woman do that?I was young n stupid and made a mistake.See when a woman does that the mistake can be getting pregnant.I dont watch those shows but I know the straight ignorance they parade out there and in that setting I really feel bad for the babies. Exactly. Because men don't get pregnant, they don't get the social stigma about unwanted pregnancies and they can just walk away from the situation if they don't want to deal with it. They can and do sleep with many women in a week or month, and the more babies they have, the more studly and manly people see him as (even if he's not taking care of his kids). I was just glad I made it through without the fuckin thang fallen off in the shower or somewhere,lol | |
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crazyhorse said: AnotherLoverToo said: Exactly. Because men don't get pregnant, they don't get the social stigma about unwanted pregnancies and they can just walk away from the situation if they don't want to deal with it. They can and do sleep with many women in a week or month, and the more babies they have, the more studly and manly people see him as (even if he's not taking care of his kids). I was just glad I made it through without the fuckin thang fallen off in the shower or somewhere,lol It could still happen, StudMuffin! | |
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