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Thread started 05/01/04 6:51am

LaCoyta

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Ragdoll Cats

I saw some ragdoll cats online. They're a recently popular breed. I think they are so adorable!
I want to get two of them someday and name them Vanity & Apollonia biggrin
I'd love to hear from orgers who've actually gotten to meet such lovely cats
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/04 7:32am

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Oh my goodness. Ragdoll cats are kind of a specialty of mine, along with vintage dolls and ukelele tuning. I never thought that I would see mention of them on this website. smile

Did you know, LaCoyta, that the Ragdoll was founded in Riverside, California in the 60's by a woman named Ann Baker, and the original cat of the breed was an ordinary non-pedigree cat called Josephine? I shit you not.

Josephine was a white, long-haired cat who belonged to Baker´s neighbor Mrs. Pennels. Like many cats in the area, Josephine was half feral and she often produced kittens. At one time Josephine was hit by a car and Ann Baker´s neighbors, who worked at the local university, rescued her and she was nursed back to health. During this time, Josephine had to stay indoors and she became somewhat tamer. When she had her next litter, the kittens were born in the house where Ann Baker first noticed them.

Josephine´s previous kittens had been half wild like Josephine herself, but after the road accident they were quite the opposite. They were very relaxed and social, in fact Mrs. Pennels regarded them as a real nuisance! It is not quite clear what exactly was so different in those kittens and how they came to be that way. One theory goes that the road accident changed Josephine´s genes, which is quite impossible. Ann Baker also claimed at one point that Josephine was "fixed" at the university after the accident and she had new genes inserted in her; this would have been impossible in the 60's, even if someone would have had a good reason to do so. Another theory suggests that Josephine had a mutation in her reproductive cells, which is possible in theory, but highly unlikely since there must be more than one gene responsible for the kittens´ temperament. In any case Ann saw something so special about the kittens that she eventually decided to use them for creating a new breed.

The first Josephine´s kitten Ann acquired was Buckwheat, a black female that looked somewhat like a Burmese. Ann was later given another daughter of Josephine, a bicolor she called Raggedy Ann Fugianna. The father of Fugianna was mitted Daddy Warbucks, a son of Josephine´s, owned by Mrs. Pennels. All these cats were Josephine´s offspring, but they probably all had different sires. Ann was very impressed by the looks of Daddy Warbucks, who had the appearance of a Birman with a nose blaze and a white tip on the tail. It was this cat that Ann called the "father of the true Ragdoll look", and she borrowed him often for her Ragdoll breeding programme. These three cats are the foundation stock of Ragdolls, for Ann never had a chance to get any more Josephine´s kittens. When Josephine had her next litter, the owner´s husband had Josephine and her kittens destroyed.

Ann promoted the breed with ads and fliers and soon Ragdolls started to have the attention of the media. When the breeding programme was well established, Ann Baker did something unheard-of in the world of cat fancy; she trademarked the Ragdoll name, and other Ragdoll breeders had to make a contract and pay royalty fees for every kitten they sold. Ann also started a registery called the International Ragdoll Cat Association (IRCA), which was not connected to the big cat associations.

Today the Ragdoll is still a relatively rare breed, but the number of Ragdolls and breeders is growing very rapidly. Ann Baker died in 1997, feeling bitter and betrayed for the rest of her life. The Ragdoll trademark and IRCA remained active after her death, and there are still both IRCA and non-IRCA Ragdolls on the market. IRCA is still not associated with any of the major cat associations, and because the IRCA breeders are not allowed to register in any other associations, the number of breeders is very small and continues to drop. RFCI is also still functional. Right now Ragdolls are accepted by most cat associations and some breeders are working on to introduce new colors and patterns to the breed. And with the increasing interest in the breed, the future of the Ragdoll cat looks bright indeed!

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Reply #2 posted 05/01/04 9:23am

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I love Ragdoll cats, they are beautiful! Vanity and Apollonia are cute names too. I hope you get to buy some Ragdolls one day (and be sure to post pics of them here on the org so we can see them). biggrin
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/04 9:27am

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Very interesting history on the Ragdoll breed, 2the9s, thanks for sharing. smile I've read that Ragdolls were given their name because when you pick them up, they get real relaxed in your arms. Not sure if that is true, but that is what I have read. smile
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Reply #4 posted 05/01/04 9:45am

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2the9s said:

Oh my goodness. Ragdoll cats are kind of a specialty of mine, along with vintage dolls and ukelele tuning. I never thought that I would see mention of them on this website. smile

Did you know, LaCoyta, that the Ragdoll was founded in Riverside, California in the 60's by a woman named Ann Baker, and the original cat of the breed was an ordinary non-pedigree cat called Josephine? I shit you not.

Josephine was a white, long-haired cat who belonged to Baker´s neighbor Mrs. Pennels. Like many cats in the area, Josephine was half feral and she often produced kittens. At one time Josephine was hit by a car and Ann Baker´s neighbors, who worked at the local university, rescued her and she was nursed back to health. During this time, Josephine had to stay indoors and she became somewhat tamer. When she had her next litter, the kittens were born in the house where Ann Baker first noticed them.

Josephine´s previous kittens had been half wild like Josephine herself, but after the road accident they were quite the opposite. They were very relaxed and social, in fact Mrs. Pennels regarded them as a real nuisance! It is not quite clear what exactly was so different in those kittens and how they came to be that way. One theory goes that the road accident changed Josephine´s genes, which is quite impossible. Ann Baker also claimed at one point that Josephine was "fixed" at the university after the accident and she had new genes inserted in her; this would have been impossible in the 60's, even if someone would have had a good reason to do so. Another theory suggests that Josephine had a mutation in her reproductive cells, which is possible in theory, but highly unlikely since there must be more than one gene responsible for the kittens´ temperament. In any case Ann saw something so special about the kittens that she eventually decided to use them for creating a new breed.

The first Josephine´s kitten Ann acquired was Buckwheat, a black female that looked somewhat like a Burmese. Ann was later given another daughter of Josephine, a bicolor she called Raggedy Ann Fugianna. The father of Fugianna was mitted Daddy Warbucks, a son of Josephine´s, owned by Mrs. Pennels. All these cats were Josephine´s offspring, but they probably all had different sires. Ann was very impressed by the looks of Daddy Warbucks, who had the appearance of a Birman with a nose blaze and a white tip on the tail. It was this cat that Ann called the "father of the true Ragdoll look", and she borrowed him often for her Ragdoll breeding programme. These three cats are the foundation stock of Ragdolls, for Ann never had a chance to get any more Josephine´s kittens. When Josephine had her next litter, the owner´s husband had Josephine and her kittens destroyed.

Ann promoted the breed with ads and fliers and soon Ragdolls started to have the attention of the media. When the breeding programme was well established, Ann Baker did something unheard-of in the world of cat fancy; she trademarked the Ragdoll name, and other Ragdoll breeders had to make a contract and pay royalty fees for every kitten they sold. Ann also started a registery called the International Ragdoll Cat Association (IRCA), which was not connected to the big cat associations.

Today the Ragdoll is still a relatively rare breed, but the number of Ragdolls and breeders is growing very rapidly. Ann Baker died in 1997, feeling bitter and betrayed for the rest of her life. The Ragdoll trademark and IRCA remained active after her death, and there are still both IRCA and non-IRCA Ragdolls on the market. IRCA is still not associated with any of the major cat associations, and because the IRCA breeders are not allowed to register in any other associations, the number of breeders is very small and continues to drop. RFCI is also still functional. Right now Ragdolls are accepted by most cat associations and some breeders are working on to introduce new colors and patterns to the breed. And with the increasing interest in the breed, the future of the Ragdoll cat looks bright indeed!

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Reply #5 posted 05/01/04 9:47am

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2the9s said:

Oh my goodness. Ragdoll cats are kind of a specialty of mine, along with vintage dolls and ukelele tuning. I never thought that I would see mention of them on this website. smile



Hey I really do have a thing for vintage dolls! pout lol
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/04 11:16am

SunnyFunnyFace

I really do have a ragdoll kitty Dylan who is affectionatly known as the puke machine lol

He is of the blue point mitted variety and as soppy as hell . Whatever they say about

ragdolls not shedding fur is a lie :eyesroll:

Much love yes Sunny Funny Face
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Reply #7 posted 05/01/04 12:25pm

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Very interesting history on the Ragdoll breed, 2the9s, thanks for sharing. smile I've read that Ragdolls were given their name because when you pick them up, they get real relaxed in your arms. Not sure if that is true, but that is what I have read. smile


Its true , they completely flop when you hold or carry them . They also have a tendancy to follow you around like a dog and can be very vocal and " chatty " at times .

Much love yes Sunny Funny Face
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/04 12:46pm

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2the9s said:

Oh my goodness. Ragdoll cats are kind of a specialty of mine, along with vintage dolls and ukelele tuning. I never thought that I would see mention of them on this website. smile

Did you know, LaCoyta, that the Ragdoll was founded in Riverside, California in the 60's by a woman named Ann Baker, and the original cat of the breed was an ordinary non-pedigree cat called Josephine? I shit you not.

Josephine was a white, long-haired cat who belonged to Baker´s neighbor Mrs. Pennels. Like many cats in the area, Josephine was half feral and she often produced kittens. At one time Josephine was hit by a car and Ann Baker´s neighbors, who worked at the local university, rescued her and she was nursed back to health. During this time, Josephine had to stay indoors and she became somewhat tamer. When she had her next litter, the kittens were born in the house where Ann Baker first noticed them.

Josephine´s previous kittens had been half wild like Josephine herself, but after the road accident they were quite the opposite. They were very relaxed and social, in fact Mrs. Pennels regarded them as a real nuisance! It is not quite clear what exactly was so different in those kittens and how they came to be that way. One theory goes that the road accident changed Josephine´s genes, which is quite impossible. Ann Baker also claimed at one point that Josephine was "fixed" at the university after the accident and she had new genes inserted in her; this would have been impossible in the 60's, even if someone would have had a good reason to do so. Another theory suggests that Josephine had a mutation in her reproductive cells, which is possible in theory, but highly unlikely since there must be more than one gene responsible for the kittens´ temperament. In any case Ann saw something so special about the kittens that she eventually decided to use them for creating a new breed.

The first Josephine´s kitten Ann acquired was Buckwheat, a black female that looked somewhat like a Burmese. Ann was later given another daughter of Josephine, a bicolor she called Raggedy Ann Fugianna. The father of Fugianna was mitted Daddy Warbucks, a son of Josephine´s, owned by Mrs. Pennels. All these cats were Josephine´s offspring, but they probably all had different sires. Ann was very impressed by the looks of Daddy Warbucks, who had the appearance of a Birman with a nose blaze and a white tip on the tail. It was this cat that Ann called the "father of the true Ragdoll look", and she borrowed him often for her Ragdoll breeding programme. These three cats are the foundation stock of Ragdolls, for Ann never had a chance to get any more Josephine´s kittens. When Josephine had her next litter, the owner´s husband had Josephine and her kittens destroyed.

Ann promoted the breed with ads and fliers and soon Ragdolls started to have the attention of the media. When the breeding programme was well established, Ann Baker did something unheard-of in the world of cat fancy; she trademarked the Ragdoll name, and other Ragdoll breeders had to make a contract and pay royalty fees for every kitten they sold. Ann also started a registery called the International Ragdoll Cat Association (IRCA), which was not connected to the big cat associations.

Today the Ragdoll is still a relatively rare breed, but the number of Ragdolls and breeders is growing very rapidly. Ann Baker died in 1997, feeling bitter and betrayed for the rest of her life. The Ragdoll trademark and IRCA remained active after her death, and there are still both IRCA and non-IRCA Ragdolls on the market. IRCA is still not associated with any of the major cat associations, and because the IRCA breeders are not allowed to register in any other associations, the number of breeders is very small and continues to drop. RFCI is also still functional. Right now Ragdolls are accepted by most cat associations and some breeders are working on to introduce new colors and patterns to the breed. And with the increasing interest in the breed, the future of the Ragdoll cat looks bright indeed!

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Reply #9 posted 05/03/04 3:40pm

psychodelicide

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SunnyFunnyFace said:

I really do have a ragdoll kitty Dylan who is affectionatly known as the puke machine lol

He is of the blue point mitted variety and as soppy as hell . Whatever they say about

ragdolls not shedding fur is a lie :eyesroll:

Much love yes Sunny Funny Face


rofl @ "puke machine". I used to have a cat (not a Ragdoll) that used to puke a lot. ill
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Reply #10 posted 05/03/04 3:40pm

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SunnyFunnyFace said:

psychodelicide said:

Very interesting history on the Ragdoll breed, 2the9s, thanks for sharing. smile I've read that Ragdolls were given their name because when you pick them up, they get real relaxed in your arms. Not sure if that is true, but that is what I have read. smile


Its true , they completely flop when you hold or carry them . They also have a tendancy to follow you around like a dog and can be very vocal and " chatty " at times .

Much love yes Sunny Funny Face



How sweet, sounds like my kind of cat. smile
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