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Reply #30 posted 04/05/04 4:20am

Heavenly

A friend is someone who will do anything to help you out, even if they don't agree with what you're doing. They will do so, just because you asked them to, and they know it's important to you.

A friend will give his last cent, if they know you need it more than they do.

A friend is someone who will tell you what they truly think, and not what you would like to hear them say.

A friend is someone who will not be afraid to criticise you, but will also let you know that they are doing so out of care.

A true friend, is for life, no matter what.
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Reply #31 posted 04/05/04 4:23am

Freespirit

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Pej....I luv's ya hon..ya know that is for sure...hug heart kotc

So sorry you're havin' a tough time.....just know I am thinkin' about ya.

Ya know I do batting eyes ....*wink*

Take good care dear..... hug

heart ..and pray

sun shine & rose 's


You post like someone I know... and I know well. rose hug smile
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Reply #32 posted 04/05/04 5:08am

Freespirit

Sometimes friendship is so special... you get to share two BIG pieces of cake. Now that is special. heart

My lifelong bestest friend in the whole wide gigantic world... big grin Leticia and I.

Friends are my chosen family, for sure. rose

I will be your friend too Pej. hug rose



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Reply #33 posted 04/05/04 9:07am

sag10

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I read this poem this weekend...

I need to know if you’re my true friend,
will you be by my side until the end?
Can I tell you my secrets deep,
and trust them in your heart you’ll keep?
We are neither of us without our flaws,
can you accept mine as I will yours?
I’ll be a shoulder to cry on when you’re blue,
will you be there for me when I need you?
No matter how busy I will make time for you,
if you are busy will you make time for me too?
I will take your hand and comfort your tears,
will you hold me and soothe my fears?
I will give you joy and many warm smiles,
can we share that even across many miles?
I will not forget what’s important to you,
will you remember what’s important to me too?
With you my most favourite things I’ll share,
If only I know do you truly care?
If you can accept me as I do you,
then I will know you are a friend most true.
^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect, it means you've decided to look beyond the imperfections... unknown
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Reply #34 posted 04/06/04 9:04am

PEJ

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Heavenly said:

A friend is someone who will do anything to help you out, even if they don't agree with what you're doing. They will do so, just because you asked them to, and they know it's important to you.

A friend will give his last cent, if they know you need it more than they do.

A friend is someone who will tell you what they truly think, and not what you would like to hear them say.

A friend is someone who will not be afraid to criticise you, but will also let you know that they are doing so out of care.

A true friend, is for life, no matter what.




AMEN!!!!! Heavenly YOU ROCK!!!!!




I must add one thing to this and I hope it is remembered by my friends..... friends do for each other whatever, whenever, however they can as far as their capabilities allow them and they don't use it against each other EVER not during discussion or loud arguing!!!! Friends understand one another , that's why they're friends!!!
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #35 posted 04/06/04 9:07am

PEJ

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pippet said:

Pej....I luv's ya hon..ya know that is for sure...hug heart kotc

So sorry you're havin' a tough time.....just know I am thinkin' about ya.

Ya know I do batting eyes ....*wink*

Take good care dear..... hug

heart ..and pray

sun shine & rose 's





hug hug pippet you know I adore you!!! you've alwys been kind and said nice things to me!!! I hope I'm a good friend to you as well!!!
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #36 posted 04/06/04 9:57am

Muse2NOPharaoh

pejman said:

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Morning Pej! Wheres my dang sun? I miss my sun! I would throw that at you right now! smile Don't be glad my sun is missing now!








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Reply #37 posted 04/06/04 5:43pm

luv4thepurple1

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PEJ said:

Heavenly said:

A friend is someone who will do anything to help you out, even if they don't agree with what you're doing. They will do so, just because you asked them to, and they know it's important to you.

A friend will give his last cent, if they know you need it more than they do.

A friend is someone who will tell you what they truly think, and not what you would like to hear them say.

A friend is someone who will not be afraid to criticise you, but will also let you know that they are doing so out of care.

A true friend, is for life, no matter what.




AMEN!!!!! Heavenly YOU ROCK!!!!!




I must add one thing to this and I hope it is remembered by my friends..... friends do for each other whatever, whenever, however they can as far as their capabilities allow them and they don't use it against each other EVER not during discussion or loud arguing!!!! Friends understand one another , that's why they're friends!!!


I would never use what I have done for my friends against them. Now I would bring shit up that I had done for a friend if they had accussed me of not caring just to make a point that if I didnt care I never would have done a damn thing for them in the first place.

I would also never post something about a "friend" on a website forum knowing good and well they would see it and not even having the respect to call them out on it because at one time I considered them my friend so why wouldnt I ask them about it before making an assumption?

Hate to say it but all of us have done wrong to our friends and vice versa in the past... no one is perfect and we all have the tendencies to make mistakes even when it comes to friends! I dont necessarily think that makes you or your friend, whatever the case, untrue. You might just end up losing a lot of good people in your life if you write off anyone and everyone that says something negative about you. Especially when you have had only one bad situation take place but years of friendship, and that one situation wasnt really worth throwing all that away for in the first place.
He calls me "Holi" cuz he says everyday w/ me is like a Holiday...
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Reply #38 posted 04/07/04 1:27am

Heavenly

PEJ said:

Heavenly said:

A friend is someone who will do anything to help you out, even if they don't agree with what you're doing. They will do so, just because you asked them to, and they know it's important to you.

A friend will give his last cent, if they know you need it more than they do.

A friend is someone who will tell you what they truly think, and not what you would like to hear them say.

A friend is someone who will not be afraid to criticise you, but will also let you know that they are doing so out of care.

A true friend, is for life, no matter what.




AMEN!!!!! Heavenly YOU ROCK!!!!!




I must add one thing to this and I hope it is remembered by my friends..... friends do for each other whatever, whenever, however they can as far as their capabilities allow them and they don't use it against each other EVER not during discussion or loud arguing!!!! Friends understand one another , that's why they're friends!!!


thumbs up! Agreed.
I never expect anything in return for whatever I do for my friends. I do it out of care, love, not as a business opportunity that I could get a favour in return later.
And whatever happens in the future, fight, agrument, or anything, I'd never ask back what I have given.
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Reply #39 posted 04/07/04 3:23am

PEJ

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highfive I knew someone would see it as I see it!





Heavenly said:

PEJ said:





AMEN!!!!! Heavenly YOU ROCK!!!!!




I must add one thing to this and I hope it is remembered by my friends..... friends do for each other whatever, whenever, however they can as far as their capabilities allow them and they don't use it against each other EVER not during discussion or loud arguing!!!! Friends understand one another , that's why they're friends!!!


thumbs up! Agreed.
I never expect anything in return for whatever I do for my friends. I do it out of care, love, not as a business opportunity that I could get a favour in return later.
And whatever happens in the future, fight, agrument, or anything, I'd never ask back what I have given.
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #40 posted 04/07/04 4:02am

PEJ

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Freespirit said:

Sometimes friendship is so special... you get to share two BIG pieces of cake. Now that is special. heart

My lifelong bestest friend in the whole wide gigantic world... big grin Leticia and I.

Friends are my chosen family, for sure. rose

I will be your friend too Pej. hug rose



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omg I'm sorry I just noticed this right now!! I have always thought you were my friend silly!!! If you can make it out the next meet up I'll buy you all the beer drink you can handle!!! hug milty too !!! doers he drink?
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #41 posted 04/07/04 4:09am

summerdawn

PEJ: hug pimp


Martina: hug martini


Julie: hug rose

Javier: hug heart


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Reply #42 posted 04/07/04 4:21am

JavierAlcalde

summerdawn said:

PEJ: hug pimp


Martina: hug martini


Julie: hug rose

Javier: hug heart


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[This message was edited Wed Apr 7 4:09:49 2004 by summerdawn]



Summer: hug heart rose kiss2
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Reply #43 posted 04/07/04 7:11am

PEJ

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luv4thepurple1 said:

I would never use what I have done for my friends against them.



pej said:


never? confused neutral


she said:


Now I would bring shit up that I had done for a friend if they had accussed me of not caring just to make a point that if I didnt care I never would have done a damn thing for them in the first place.



eye said

really?Lnot me!

her:
I would also never post something about a "friend" on a website forum knowing good and well they would see it and not even having the respect to call them out on it because at one time I considered them my friend so why wouldnt I ask them about it before making an assumption?






yeah if someone, a friend perhaps was to post my name in front of a bunch of people on line in a negative manner directly calling my name out then.....




Hate to say it but all of us have done w\\rong to our friends and vice versa in the past... no one is perfect and we all have the tendencies to make mistakes even when it comes to friends! I dont necessarily think that makes you or your friend, whatever the case, untrue. You might just end up losing a lot of good people in your life if you write off anyone and everyone that says something negative about you. Especially when you have had only one bad situation take place but years of friendship, and that one situation wasnt really worth throwing all that away for in the first place.[/quote]



NOBODYS PERFECT! WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES !!!!! we should learn from our mistakes and try not to let history repeat itself
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #44 posted 04/07/04 7:20am

IAmTheTouch

summerdawn said:

PEJ: hug pimp


Martina: hug martini


Julie: hug rose

Javier: hug heart


mushy edit
[This message was edited Wed Apr 7 4:09:49 2004 by summerdawn]


hug back atcha, gurlie! and let's meet for martini martini and tofu at PF Chang's soon!!
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Reply #45 posted 04/07/04 9:50am

summerdawn

IAmTheTouch said:

summerdawn said:

PEJ: hug pimp


Martina: hug martini


Julie: hug rose

Javier: hug heart


mushy edit
[This message was edited Wed Apr 7 4:09:49 2004 by summerdawn]


hug back atcha, gurlie! and let's meet for martini martini and tofu at PF Chang's soon!!


woot! !! Its a deal...

mr.green
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Reply #46 posted 04/07/04 9:54am

PERSIA

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summerdawn hug




Martina: hug martini


FREESPIRIT: hug rose

Javier: hug heart


peJ: pimp2
“A poor man waited a thousand years before the gate of paradise. And, while he snatched a little sleep, it opened and shut.”
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Reply #47 posted 04/07/04 10:00am

PERSIA

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heather azure starr hug


babycakes hug



little pill highfive




rdhull:fishslap: hug




nesseone kiss2


Nu & Ellis highfive highfive






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“A poor man waited a thousand years before the gate of paradise. And, while he snatched a little sleep, it opened and shut.”
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Reply #48 posted 04/07/04 10:00am

PERSIA

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luv4thepurple1 hug


Muse hug



Milty highfive




althom fishslap hug




TMBGITW kiss2


sinisterp and ARDEO highfive highfive
“A poor man waited a thousand years before the gate of paradise. And, while he snatched a little sleep, it opened and shut.”
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Reply #49 posted 04/07/04 10:01am

PERSIA

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luv4thepurple1 hug


Muse hug



Milty highfive




althom fishslap hug




TMBGITW kiss2


sinisterp and ARDEO highfive highfive
“A poor man waited a thousand years before the gate of paradise. And, while he snatched a little sleep, it opened and shut.”
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Reply #50 posted 04/07/04 10:01am

PERSIA

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luv4thepurple1 hug


Muse hug



Milty highfive




althom fishslap hug




TMBGITW kiss2


sinisterp and ARDEO highfive highfive
“A poor man waited a thousand years before the gate of paradise. And, while he snatched a little sleep, it opened and shut.”
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Reply #51 posted 04/07/04 3:50pm

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NOBODYS PERFECT! WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES !!!!! we should learn from our mistakes and try not to let history repeat itself


This I totally agree with! Anyway, losing a good friend sucks and right now I cant afford to lose any of my good friends. With the way my life runs I need my friends everyday!

PEJ: hug Really do luv ya lots Pej!!
He calls me "Holi" cuz he says everyday w/ me is like a Holiday...
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Reply #52 posted 04/07/04 4:07pm

Idiot

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A friend is someone who looks past my name and sees me for what I really am...

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Reply #53 posted 04/07/04 4:47pm

2the9s

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A friend is someone who looks past my name and sees me for what I really am...

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A jackass?

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Reply #54 posted 04/07/04 5:01pm

BinaryJustin

PEJ said:

I have recently introduced two of my friends to each other and later found out that one said some negative things about me to the other. I guess they didn't think that friend would tell me what was said but at least I can determine the fake from the real.


You know what? I wouldn't trust the "friend" who blabbed to you.

My friends have a pact that if any of us discuss each other when we are not present, that it is never fed back to the person we had discussed. Its silly to think that other people will never talk about you or criticise you.

I'm by no means perfect and I'd find it odd if (some of) my actions weren't analysed by people whom profess to care about me. Similarly, if somebody has pissed me off, it isn't always constructive to go to that person and whine at them. Its much easier to talk through why they pissed me off, with other people who know us both. Sometimes I realise that they were wrong and sometimes I realise that I was wrong. Its unimportant. If anything was really that important or if I really felt strongly enough about a specific issue, I would go to that person, tell them directly and risk losing that friendship.

I don't need to know the dynamics of any negative conversation about me. I accept that it happens and can deal with that. Its naive to think that mutual friends will never talk about you - good or bad. If any prospective friend can't accept that's how my friends and I operate, they never become part of my life.

The people I bitch about the most are the people I care about the most. I never waste my energy thinking about people whom don't matter to me.
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Reply #55 posted 04/07/04 5:05pm

Natisse

Pej I'm sorry to hear about what you've been through...

friends are the family we choose for ourselves and they come into our lives for many different reasons...

I'm soooo thankful because I have some wonderful people in my life, most of the closest ones I've known for a very long time but some I've met within the last 6 months or so...even so they have a huge piece of my heart , no matter how long I've known them...

Friends are our angels that have been sent to help guide us...treasure them... wink
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Reply #56 posted 04/08/04 11:51am

misterE

BinaryJustin said:

PEJ said:

I have recently introduced two of my friends to each other and later found out that one said some negative things about me to the other. I guess they didn't think that friend would tell me what was said but at least I can determine the fake from the real.


You know what? I wouldn't trust the "friend" who blabbed to you.

My friends have a pact that if any of us discuss each other when we are not present, that it is never fed back to the person we had discussed. Its silly to think that other people will never talk about you or criticise you.

I'm by no means perfect and I'd find it odd if (some of) my actions weren't analysed by people whom profess to care about me. Similarly, if somebody has pissed me off, it isn't always constructive to go to that person and whine at them. Its much easier to talk through why they pissed me off, with other people who know us both. Sometimes I realise that they were wrong and sometimes I realise that I was wrong. Its unimportant. If anything was really that important or if I really felt strongly enough about a specific issue, I would go to that person, tell them directly and risk losing that friendship.

I don't need to know the dynamics of any negative conversation about me. I accept that it happens and can deal with that. Its naive to think that mutual friends will never talk about you - good or bad. If any prospective friend can't accept that's how my friends and I operate, they never become part of my life.

The people I bitch about the most are the people I care about the most. I never waste my energy thinking about people whom don't matter to me.







I like it when people talk about me be it good or bad and I enjoy hearing about what was said. Boosts my self esteem to know that I'm part of someones coversation! biggrin
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_____ Drama is life with the dull bits left out.

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Reply #57 posted 04/08/04 12:11pm

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PEJ said:

When it comes to my friends I count on them for advice, love, care, and honesty. I hope if they feel some way about anything , me included, they would let me know how they truely feel . I have made many friends in my life and for the most part we usually always get along. I have also observed that some friends call me to see how I am doing and care about my well being while some pretend like they care but in reality are actually calling cuz they need something,whatever that may be...

I have recently introduced two of my friends to each other and later found out that one said some negative things about me to the other. I guess they didn't think that friend would tell me what was said but at least I can determine the fake from the real.

It's rare that I have problems with my true friends. To me discussions/ conclusions/ solutions are great to have between friends but arguemnents/fighting are not something I will do with any friends , ever. Don't get me wrong I have had a few fallouts with a few friends but I'm proud to say that the ones who were/are genuine friends I have regained as friends and we worked things out!

A few months ago I posted a thread about a friend of mine overdosing from some serious drugs. Last week another friend of mine experienced a heart attack which he survived but he was placed on life support and the doctor mentioned he may need a transplant to survive. As the days went by in the hospital he was improving (so I thouht) They ended up taking him off of life support because of how well he seemed to be doing but later that night his heart failed and he was dead. Another friend gone, another funeral to attend.

With all of this said I will end by saying ..... be true to your self, be true to others, cherrish your friends while they are here... IMHO a person should be their own best friend 1st before they can be friends with other people.
















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[This message was edited Sun Apr 4 7:17:07 2004 by PEJ]
Damn, Pej. I'm so sorry for your loss, both of your real friend and of your fake one. When I left a very well paying job for a lot less paying job, 'friends' and family disappeared on me, which was all good in the long run. Keep your friends close, enemies even closer, right? As long as you got one really good one, you'll be alright.
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