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Thread started 03/15/04 4:14pm

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Help Wanted: Which Turntable/System To Buy?

I'm in the market for a turntable, and was wondering what a good brand is. I'm looking for something that sounds great, looks like artwork/architecture, and is not overly expensive. By that I mean only a few hundred dollars.

Any help with the corresponding equipment (speakers, amps, etc) is appreciated too.

AND -- what are your "prerequisite" LP's to own?

Thanks!

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Reply #1 posted 03/15/04 4:26pm

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Don't know if you can get them in the US but over here in the UK, the Limit turntables are damn popular. Whatever you get, buy some direct drives not belt drives!

Essential vinyl:- Prince "Dirty Mind", David Bowie "Hunky Dory", The White Stripes "Elephant" and the new Mum album has been recorded on analogue equipment and specialy mastered directly to vinyl without any digital treatment to give it that sound that only vinyl can manage.
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Reply #2 posted 03/15/04 5:06pm

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I have an earlier version of this table and I love it!! smile
Though it is fully manual, there are no switches only on and off. To change the speed you have to lift the disc plate and move the belt. No big deal really. Oh yeah and the plates all glass, very cool!! thumbs up!

It's not high high end, I only paid $500, they do have other models that are much more expensive and better of course.

It all depends on what you plan on running it through, I guess. smile



http://www.audiovisionsf....uct_id=269
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Reply #3 posted 03/15/04 7:10pm

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My grandpa might sell you his old gramaphone. He keeps it in the attic with all his Al Johlson records.
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Reply #4 posted 03/15/04 7:18pm

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My boyfriend is a DJ, and he only uses his Technics.
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #5 posted 03/15/04 7:23pm

sinisterpentat
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theVelvetRoper said:

My boyfriend is a DJ, and he only uses his Technics.


Technics are only good if you're a dj and travel with your tables alot, I wouldn't use it as part of a home system, though It would be
nice to have a pair sitting around cause sometimes I get in the mood to make mixes, which they are perfectly designed.
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Reply #6 posted 03/15/04 7:25pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

theVelvetRoper said:

My boyfriend is a DJ, and he only uses his Technics.


Technics are only good if you're a dj and travel with your tables alot, I wouldn't use it as part of a home system, though It would be
nice to have a pair sitting around cause sometimes I get in the mood to make mixes, which they are perfectly designed.


Well, all he does is mix all the time, but he never would bring his precious turntables to a rave. He spins house and a little hip hop.
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #7 posted 03/15/04 7:28pm

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theVelvetRoper said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



Technics are only good if you're a dj and travel with your tables alot, I wouldn't use it as part of a home system, though It would be
nice to have a pair sitting around cause sometimes I get in the mood to make mixes, which they are perfectly designed.


Well, all he does is mix all the time, but he never would bring his precious turntables to a rave. He spins house and a little hip hop.


I don't blame him, I have countless stories of friends having their system ripped off at parties, raves, shows, etc.... It's always risky muling that stuff to strange places. nod
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Reply #8 posted 03/15/04 8:44pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

theVelvetRoper said:

My boyfriend is a DJ, and he only uses his Technics.


Technics are only good if you're a dj and travel with your tables alot, I wouldn't use it as part of a home system


The Technics SL-1200 series does satisfy Se7en's requirement of "looks like artwork/architecture," methinks. The design, which was introduced in 1979, is timeless.
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Reply #9 posted 03/15/04 9:01pm

sinisterpentat
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matt said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



Technics are only good if you're a dj and travel with your tables alot, I wouldn't use it as part of a home system


The Technics SL-1200 series does satisfy Se7en's requirement of "looks like artwork/architecture," methinks. The design, which was introduced in 1979, is timeless.



Cool!!

But all them gadgets on it will still cause humming nod
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Reply #10 posted 03/15/04 10:31pm

CinisterCee

sinisterpentatonic said:





I Spy with my little eye... 12" of Art of Noise "Paranoimia" feat. Max Headroom.



INPUT ON THIS THREAD: Whatever you buy, make sure it is a "direct drive" turntable (spins with magnets or something) and NOT belt-driven.
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Reply #11 posted 03/15/04 10:40pm

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matt said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



Technics are only good if you're a dj and travel with your tables alot, I wouldn't use it as part of a home system


The Technics SL-1200 series does satisfy Se7en's requirement of "looks like artwork/architecture," methinks. The design, which was introduced in 1979, is timeless.


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That turntable is a sexy, sexy beast.
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Reply #12 posted 03/16/04 3:04pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

I have an earlier version of this table and I love it!! smile
Though it is fully manual, there are no switches only on and off. To change the speed you have to lift the disc plate and move the belt. No big deal really. Oh yeah and the plates all glass, very cool!! thumbs up!

It's not high high end, I only paid $500, they do have other models that are much more expensive and better of course.

It all depends on what you plan on running it through, I guess. smile



http://www.audiovisionsf....uct_id=269


Thanks - I like them both! The $500 is a little steep. Hmmm. I don't mind switching the belt - it would mostly stay on 33 1/3.

The Technics one - how much does that run?
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Reply #13 posted 03/16/04 8:49pm

sinisterpentat
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Se7en said:

sinisterpentatonic said:

I have an earlier version of this table and I love it!! smile
Though it is fully manual, there are no switches only on and off. To change the speed you have to lift the disc plate and move the belt. No big deal really. Oh yeah and the plates all glass, very cool!! thumbs up!

It's not high high end, I only paid $500, they do have other models that are much more expensive and better of course.

It all depends on what you plan on running it through, I guess. smile



http://www.audiovisionsf....uct_id=269


Thanks - I like them both! The $500 is a little steep. Hmmm. I don't mind switching the belt - it would mostly stay on 33 1/3.

The Technics one - how much does that run?


You'd pay about the same price for the Technics, though I've seen them go for as high as $700.
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Reply #14 posted 03/16/04 10:13pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

Se7en said:



Thanks - I like them both! The $500 is a little steep. Hmmm. I don't mind switching the belt - it would mostly stay on 33 1/3.

The Technics one - how much does that run?


You'd pay about the same price for the Technics, though I've seen them go for as high as $700.


$700 is a bit high IMHO. Here's a good source for most of the SL-1200 models:

http://www.hollywooddj.co...hnics.html

If you want the new M5G "Grand Master" model, though, this site has a significantly better price:

http://www.turntablelab.com

I have no affiliation with either site, but I did buy my Technics from Hollywood DJ a few years back. Note that while I ordered an M3D, they sent me a grey market MK3D intended for sale in Japan. But aside from the owner's manual being in Japanese, it's substantively identical to the US M3D, and the price was the cheapest I could find on the Internet at the time.
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Reply #15 posted 03/16/04 10:45pm

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Note that while I ordered an M3D, they sent me a grey market MK3D intended for sale in Japan. But aside from the owner's manual being in Japanese, it's substantively identical to the US M3D, and the price was the cheapest I could find on the Internet at the time.


Oh. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Reply #16 posted 03/16/04 11:09pm

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matt said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



Technics are only good if you're a dj and travel with your tables alot, I wouldn't use it as part of a home system


The Technics SL-1200 series does satisfy Se7en's requirement of "looks like artwork/architecture," methinks. The design, which was introduced in 1979, is timeless.


I used to have a Technics stereo system. It's a good make.
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Reply #17 posted 03/16/04 11:11pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

I have an earlier version of this table and I love it!! smile
Though it is fully manual, there are no switches only on and off. To change the speed you have to lift the disc plate and move the belt. No big deal really. Oh yeah and the plates all glass, very cool!! thumbs up!

It's not high high end, I only paid $500, they do have other models that are much more expensive and better of course.

It all depends on what you plan on running it through, I guess. smile



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....SIN', this is THE MOST BEAUTIFUL equipment ive seen ina long time my sweet!!!
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Reply #18 posted 03/17/04 10:57am

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2the9s said:

matt said:

Note that while I ordered an M3D, they sent me a grey market MK3D intended for sale in Japan. But aside from the owner's manual being in Japanese, it's substantively identical to the US M3D, and the price was the cheapest I could find on the Internet at the time.


Oh. Thanks for clearing that up.

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shrug Some folks might not want to buy from a place that sells grey market goods. For one thing, the warranty is usually void. And the owner's manual being in Japanese is an issue if you can't read Japanese. This turntable is not a "plug and play" device... among other things, you've got to calibrate the tonearm (tracking, anti-skate, and height). Had I not been able to find an English manual online, I probably would have had to call a DJ friend for help.
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Reply #19 posted 03/17/04 11:08am

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Se7en said:

sinisterpentatonic said:

I have an earlier version of this table and I love it!! smile
Though it is fully manual, there are no switches only on and off. To change the speed you have to lift the disc plate and move the belt. No big deal really. Oh yeah and the plates all glass, very cool!! thumbs up!

It's not high high end, I only paid $500, they do have other models that are much more expensive and better of course.

It all depends on what you plan on running it through, I guess. smile



http://www.audiovisionsf....uct_id=269


Thanks - I like them both! The $500 is a little steep. Hmmm. I don't mind switching the belt - it would mostly stay on 33 1/3.

The Technics one - how much does that run?


sin is right, the acoustic research turntable is infinitely superior to the technics model
the whole idea of listening to vinyl is primarily because of its superior sound quality
compared to that from compact disc
therefore when buying a turntable, the most important aspect should be how it sounds
not what it looks like
reputable hifi retailers allow you to book listening sessions where u can take your chosen piece of vinyl
and listen to a range of players, thus being able to chose the best one that suits your pocket
as well as your ears



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Reply #20 posted 03/17/04 11:09am

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CinisterCee said:

sinisterpentatonic said:





I Spy with my little eye... 12" of Art of Noise "Paranoimia" feat. Max Headroom.



INPUT ON THIS THREAD: Whatever you buy, make sure it is a "direct drive" turntable (spins with magnets or something) and NOT belt-driven.
I totally agree with the direct drive turntable. Belt-drivens suck ass.
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Reply #21 posted 03/17/04 11:15am

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

CinisterCee said:



I Spy with my little eye... 12" of Art of Noise "Paranoimia" feat. Max Headroom.



INPUT ON THIS THREAD: Whatever you buy, make sure it is a "direct drive" turntable (spins with magnets or something) and NOT belt-driven.
I totally agree with the direct drive turntable. Belt-drivens suck ass.


naa all that gimmickry adds a background humm, that detracts from the
reproduction of music, belt drive turntables recreate the music more faithfully

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Reply #22 posted 03/17/04 12:58pm

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

I totally agree with the direct drive turntable. Belt-drivens suck ass.


I don't know about that, this AR was a standard for many years.


My dad still uses his to this day.

To Se7en:
You might consider one of the auction sites.
It's possible that you get a good deal on a higher end unit.
If you go that route, factor in the cost of a new cartridge.

This MMF-2.1 model is available from Acoustic Sounds Online
http://store.acousticsounds.com for $299.



or when money is no object, go after the Model 30/2-SME for $29K eyepop

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Reply #23 posted 03/17/04 5:46pm

sinisterpentat
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blackcherry said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

I totally agree with the direct drive turntable. Belt-drivens suck ass.


naa all that gimmickry adds a background humm, that detracts from the
reproduction of music, belt drive turntables recreate the music more faithfully

nod


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Reply #24 posted 03/17/04 5:48pm

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theAudience said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

I totally agree with the direct drive turntable. Belt-drivens suck ass.


I don't know about that, this AR was a standard for many years.


or when money is no object, go after the Model 30/2-SME for $29K eyepop



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Reply #25 posted 03/17/04 6:41pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

theAudience said:



I don't know about that, this AR was a standard for many years.


or when money is no object, go after the Model 30/2-SME for $29K eyepop



love drool love


Heh, heh, heh. evillol
I thought that would get YOUR attention. eek
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Reply #26 posted 03/17/04 6:46pm

sinisterpentat
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theAudience said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



love drool love


Heh, heh, heh. evillol
I thought that would get YOUR attention. eek


Man, that's wicked!! Now I have to make a decision between food or sounds. hmmm
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Reply #27 posted 03/17/04 7:28pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

theAudience said:



Heh, heh, heh. evillol
I thought that would get YOUR attention. eek


Man, that's wicked!! Now I have to make a decision between food or sounds. hmmm

That's a lot of burger my brother. What continent are you trying to feed? giggle
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Reply #28 posted 03/17/04 8:18pm

sinisterpentat
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theAudience said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



Man, that's wicked!! Now I have to make a decision between food or sounds. hmmm

That's a lot of burger my brother. What continent are you trying to feed? giggle


hmmm Let's see for just 69 cents a day I could feed a child in a impoverished nation hmmm

Damn, that's a lot of meals!! omfg better stock up on the Ramen Noodles. lol
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