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Reply #30 posted 03/12/04 6:27am

alandail

NFO said:

alandail said:


There are zero viruses for OS X. Why is that? It's 100% because of this Microsoft quote - again from last year:


I just recently read otherwise.
I lost the link. I'll try to find it again.
But there was a virus study site that showed that 5% of the known viruses can infect the mac.

However, it wasn't clear if they targeted certain programs like microsoft office that may share the same code on both platforms or the actual OS?


That's the old MacOS 9, there are none for MacOS X. The security is just too tight.
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Reply #31 posted 03/13/04 10:09am

charly1310

alandail said:


umm - I happen to program both for a living. I've been using personal computers since before Microsoft bought their first operating system. I've been using and programming Macs since 1984. I've had to do the same for windows since windows 3.1 - it took Microsoft 3.1 tries to come up with something anyone would use. It took 3.1 tries for them to even figure out how to do overlapping windows. For years, every time they released a new OS, it was hyped by Microsoft as "being more Mac like". Now you somehow think OS X is a copy of windows? Learn your computer history. OS X is a merging of MacOS and NeXT. The things you say came from windows actually came from NeXT. Microsoft copies everyone.

As for crashing - Microsoft's on stats tell you how much their OS crashes. Here's a quote from last year:
"Mr. Gates acknowledged today that the company's error reporting service indicated that 5 percent of all Windows-based computers now crash more than twice each day."

When have you ever seen OS X crash? Occasionally an application will crash as applications have bugs, but it never takes down the whole OS, never kills any other applications.

There are zero viruses for OS X. Why is that? It's 100% because of this Microsoft quote - again from last year:

"... Our products just aren't engineered for security."
- Brian Valentine - Microsoft senior v.p., Windows development.

Who has time for crashing and viruses?

You know what project I'm working on right now for our app - an autosave feature - to protect windows users from losing data on system crashes. We don't have to do that for our Mac customers.


I've never said that OS X is a copy of Windows, but it copies some functions and much of the usability - more than any previous MAC system !

U asked when I've ever seen OS X crash ? I Tell you: total crash a minimum of 2 times a week and 5 to 10 application crashes every day and indeed it brings other applications down !!! Believe it or not, but my XP ain't crashing that often...so, statistically you might be right, but I don't care, cuz I'm living in the real life not in any statistic wink

In case of viruses you're absolutely right, it's a pain in the ass if you're not protected, but I've never had one executing on my system. And 20 viruses a day in your email as someone mentioned here is simply bullshit. U know why OS X has zero viruses ? Not because of it's security - there are security updates from Apple on almost a weekly basis !!! - but of the disinterest of hackers. Only 5% worldwide marketshare. So tell me who really cares of hacking an Apple ? It's hard to find one... (ok, this is kinda sarcastic, but that's the point in general).

At all, you like your MAC, I don't, and it's totally out of interest who copied from who, since you're not working for either Apple or Microsoft. I use the system that fits best to me and that's a PC, as for the most of us !

cheers,
charly1310
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