While being deactivated from the org :LOL: i have been watching(and participating :LOL: ) in what has been going down. And before anyone thinks otherwise Koolaid is not my account, but one that was handed down to me at an opportune time. I watched the same ole shit go down and i realize it will never stop on here. I have had fun but i realize most of the people who made it fun for me aregone. Nu, Bad,
Azurestar and Sweetea left. I saw them ban Rd, MD7 and Elephantitisofthenuts and even Aaron(good sparring partner). I rarely see EllisDee and Supernova(i miss you).I am starting to see that my ideas seem to conflict
with the way this place seems to be headed. After being banned by Matt and then seeing him on the site really made me question his intergrity? Instead of Matt banning the orgers who had issues with Site A(quaidbowl) you should have had Dansa do the moderating for awhile as Matts connection to that site was something i think a few orgers had to and should have been allowed to work through. I also saw the quaidbowl orgers come over here and give their apology speeches . Talking about how sorry they were if they hurt anyones feelings. Yet they were laughing over there about the stuff they are apologizing for here. The shocker to most of yall is that these people have had a kind of "kindred" for a good while now. These people weren't chosen to go to that site by "chance. They had
to have a certain quality that worked well with the theme of that site. Safe to say i would have never been invited, nor would i have ever went. Kinda sad that we could not get both sides at that time to discuss. Then it hit me maybe they don't want the other side to discus. If you(quaidbowl) are sincere. Then in time the efforts from your change will bear fruit. I will not be
around to see these changes for i have seen this behaviour for awhile and doubt if there is sincerity in "action" not your words. I don't believe you, but who knows? I am not God and only time will prove wether i am right or wrong.
I don't have the energy nor the time to wait and find out. It was at this point i decided that i have had enough. People like gemini13(who are you really) a recycled orger no doubt are allowed to say people made racist statements without ever being called to task. True troll if there ever was one(i'll be gone so you will have to find another idol) :LOL: . If you say i said racist statements in the past, please point them out. One thing about me is i don't hide behind words or computer screens. I use them to express myself clearly to another person. If there is confusion, i will clarify. And i try to treat people like i would want to be treated. The fact that you popped in after
quaidbowl gives me an idea who you are or at least where you come from. And that fact that i was banned by Matt for saying "shut the fuck up" for saying n*** in a thread awhile back(props to cborg for steppin to the plate and clearing things up) . And for giving an even reply to an already banned orger tells me that i am probably not wanted in here. So yes i have been banned a few times, but i think you will agree they were bullshit deactivations. So i figure before the new org comes in(site B), i will step out with the old. There are alot of wonderful people here and if i started naming names i am sure to forget someone who really made this site enjoyable for so long. So to you all i say thank you,it's been fun. And if nothin else to yourself be true.


3rdLetter
a.k.a
CtheUncanny

No you cant go.

Without RD and you and all the other good people you mentioned, I think this place will never be the same! Rd's deactivation is just not right. I want to leave too but a few lovely people here have asked me to stay. I do go to the other side to get the best of both worlds but I must say I don't have to watch my language or worry about what pics I post ( well most of time) which is a plus about the org. If we all leave then I feel like they have won and got what they wanted... us gone and off this site.. I will stay a little longer to see if things change for the better and we can get everybody back and reactived ... otherwise I will be on my way and my friends here can go with me if they know whats good for them. It's just cyber city I know but I want to see if the people in charge realise what's really gone on here... It was an ugly situation which showed a lot of people the true side of some peoples ways of thinking... I will be optimistic for only a short while and I hope to see change but if not I guess I will have to wash my mouth out with soap and convert to the other side. I am one person here that has not minded you being here and I am proud of you for speaking your mind and telling it how it is!


Until we meet again!!!

It's better to stay.

Anyone who speaks honestly should command a degree of respect on a site such as this whether people agree or disagree with what is being said.

Why not stay? I don't really know u, but why not stay?

"I rarely see EllisDee and SuperNova"

Yeah,I miss those two.Ellis posts here sometimes,but Supa hasn't been here in weeks.When she comes back,we'll have to let her know what she missed (Quaidbowlgate)

reported!!!

Thanks C, you are one of the orgs good people.

We have chatted plenty about this and you know you have my respect.

By the way, I think your deactivation was the biggest bullshit one of the lot. It was utter crap and undeserved. It was plain wrong.

I wish you well on all your future endeavours.

Here's to you C!

As always,

U're one of the good and honest ones, keep it up where ever u go from here, even though I wish u'd "be allowed" to stay. Yeah your deactivations were bullshit and cheap, I believe the only reason I wasn't deactivated at the same time was pointing out publicly that I didn't have any strikes to my name and that I was prolly gonna get deactivated without any priors. I did that on purpose, and it seems it worked. U didn't, and were deactivated.

I agree with u 200% on all this, u know it. I'm glad I had my say before this thread is, at the very least, locked.

Orgnote me if u have time before going, I'd like to keep in touch.
//

Jen

I wasn't going to post today, but I just want to cosign this before it gets locked.

Same old shit.

IAmTheTouch said:

I'm with you and pej and the rest of the folks that have good ethics. It's gonna suck with ouit RDHULL and the C! They make this place hop and if they can't be here then eventually we should find where they post up and join them. Not only was C deactivated for the wrong reasons but RDHULL too for saying a word theat Prince used as a title for one of his songs but only spelled different. Sheeit we used to call you irresistableb1tch but you never reported anybody.

Also I miss Nu, Ellis, AzureStar, Essence, BAD, and so many more.

so gazoo 2?

mellowDEEkOOL said:

i've been called MUCH worse!

IAmTheTouch said:

C ain't KoolAid... never was...

and let me add this...


i'm sure i'll see you at the npgmc and other places... but still... damn...

it's like that song... "good time charlie's got the blues"...

"there's not a soul i know around... everybody's leaving town"...
[This message was edited Thu Feb 12 6:45:22 PST 2004 by EllisDee]

Aaron was banned??? What the heck happened, he was one of the old school orgers who has been around a long time.

KoolAid said:

I'am really going to miss you C you were the first TRUE FRIEND I met up in here when I first came to the org (well actually you were known as 4Love back then) You were always so easy to talk to when someone needed advice and you always lifted my spirits when I was feeling low and always brought a to my pretty little face no matter what kind of day I was having (good or bad) I just want you to know the org is NEVER going to be the same without you and for the ones who never appreciated your friendship screw'em with friends like that you dont need enemies. I wish you all the best sweetie, you are a wonderful person with a beautiful soul and you will truly be missed.

~ Paisley~

Natsume said:

aka- bliss ...you knew that right?

Aw C. I have nothing but respect for you.

I hope that one day you will return and infect the Org once again with your humor.

It's interesting that in all the years we have been on the same site you only ever interacted with me after Quaidbowlgate. Which is a shame because I'm sure we could have been friends.

I don't know why people are leaving over this. How will you make your difference if you aint here?

hey thec...it was cool meeting u at the bbq..sorry all your friends are leaving or being forced out...the only situation i can speak to is the rdhull banning...and like ive said before, i do feel bad that his actions lead to the banning...


you sorta made a statement in a deleted thread that i was the other gemini you referenced in this thread..you said the actions were "typical" and "expected"..


and shown nothing but respect and kindess towards you...expecially since that is what i recieved from you..so im a bit curious as to why you would have attributed negative statements towards you as coming from me...

EllisDee said:

sorry, my bad...

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

C isn't leaving by choice...

IAmTheTouch said:

... it's cool...

...

EllisDee said:

C might not be but Koolaid said they were... :

I'm sorry you feel the need to leave, but for you to blame it on me and my opinion is, well...sorta chickensh*t. Also, it seems as if you believe you were deactivated for no apparent reason. This is incorrect thinking. You surely must have flipped your lid more times than was comfortable for the moderators. Sometimes, it's not what you say, but how you say it. Rude is rude. Insulting is insulting. I disagreed with you yesterday, and you ordered me to take it elsewhere, as if you were somehow the judge of who gets to post on this site. This is your underlying problem. I get the feeling you feel threatened by people who may stand up to you. I understand that you may have been here for a long time, but that doesn't appoint you any status to judge whether I should be here or not. It sounds so cliche, but seriously, if you don't like me or my opinion, IGNORE IT. And if you cannot take someone's apology, that's your choice. You choose how to react. Other people are not responsible for your feelings. You are.
It's ok to discuss things, and for the most part, I am perfectly willing to discuss things in a rational manner. I lose my temper too, but I always try to make sure I apologize straight out, even if I don't wish to. That's how mature people interact. I'm not perfect, but I try.
I am NOT a recycled orger. I am relatively new. I began posting somewhere in December, I believe. This was one of the best sites I've encountered, and I absolutely love Prince. At first, I was encouraged by the thought of people out there who loved his music as much as I do. Then I noticed something awful. Racism, racism, racism. That's all some people here talk about. It permeates their every thought, and they just cannot let it go. It's not so much that I disagree with the fight for freedom from discrimination. It's the fact that some get downright nasty about it. This is unnecessary, and sort of "dumbs down" your cause. I lost respect for you and your friends and the "pack mentality" tactics that you would all use. You harrassed others. I saw it. It's the truth, and from what I see, I'm not the only one who feels this way. All the rest of the speculation in your head is pure coincidence. Nothing else. Kinda says something about your mentality, no offense intended. Paranoia is a silent decay of the mind. You talk about tolerance, and how much you desire it, but you're not willing to be tolerant yourself. If someone called you the "n" word, I would be one of the FIRST to defend you. But at the same time, I must be fair, and make sure that it's a two way street here. If I see something that I consider unfair, I WILL respond to it. That's the way I've always been, and unfortunately, many people are uncomfortable with the truth about themselves. So I end up being the bad girl. This isn't the first time, and it definitely won't be the last. I wouldn't change it for anything. I would respect you more if you chose to have the same attitude, and stayed. I guess it would be easier for you to blame it on me, gain the sympathy, and manipulate the orgers into disliking me. I don't care either way, really, but I would hope that you're not that type.
To me, rd was a whiner. I didn't single him out because of his skin color. I had no idea whether he was black or red or orange. I just didn't like how he presented his passionate responses(that's a nice way of describing them). I actually thought that he was female at first. I am not a racist. IF I argue against your hatred for others, whom you may believe to be racist, I must be a racist in your eyes? That also is faulty thinking. That argument is hypocritical and illogical. It's a passionate response, and there are times when I don't deal well with other peoples' dramatics. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said something that I believe in with all of my being. Everyone should be judged not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character. PERIOD. That is probably THE most true statement ever uttered. On this same token, and here we go, you're NOT going to like this...If you are black, and you are offended by ignorance, you DO NOT have the right to be just as offensive. You don't get to use that to your advantage. If you are wrong, you are wrong. And that's it. If it were up to me, everyone on BOTH SIDES of the equation would be apologizing to each other, airing out their differences with respect, and leaving it be for a change. But some here just can't do that for their own reasons. It's such a shame too.
One last thing. I'm afraid you've lost your perspective on what's really important. This is just an Internet BB. It's not the end of the world if anyone leaves this place, is it? You place too much importance on the idea of the "high school popularity contest". You shouldn't care so much if people like you or not, as long as you know that you're doing the right thing. I could go on and on about this, but for the love of everything holy, don't feel that you have to leave because of me. That's ridiculous. Your friends will be back, under different names, just as you did. I won't be posting very much here, as I somehow have the phenomenal power to control the actions and thoughts of others. Lesser mortals should bow to the awesome destruction that I allow to occur. LOL Please, I'm just lil' ole' me.

wow, gemini, that's a whole lot of pent-up anger there.

after three months on the org, i could barely remember my password, let alone understand and judge the intricacies of other orgers' positions... are you surprised people don't believe you're a newbie?