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Reply #30 posted 02/10/04 4:46pm

BinaryJustin

The root of all hate is ignorance.

The reasons for why that hatred maifests itself as being specific against a certain minority are usually specific to the person whom has the hatred. They may attempt to justify their thoughts, emotions and actions by grasping at cliches, but the initial hatred can be instilled by the most innocuous scenario.

I really don't understand why diversity isn't explained to children in elementary / primary schools as part of their regular studies.
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Reply #31 posted 02/10/04 6:37pm

2the9s

blah blah blah...

So rd and C can come back?

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Reply #32 posted 02/10/04 6:40pm

Paisley

2the9s said:

blah blah blah...

So rd and C can come back?

biggrin



:LOL: pray
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Reply #33 posted 02/10/04 6:42pm

2the9s

Paisley said:

2the9s said:

blah blah blah...

So rd and C can come back?

biggrin



:LOL: pray


pray indeed.
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Reply #34 posted 02/10/04 6:43pm

Paisley

2the9s said:

Paisley said:

2the9s said:

blah blah blah...

So rd and C can come back?

biggrin



:LOL: pray


pray indeed.



comfort
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Reply #35 posted 02/10/04 6:47pm

2the9s

Paisley said:

2the9s said:

Paisley said:

2the9s said:

blah blah blah...

So rd and C can come back?

biggrin



:LOL: pray


pray indeed.



comfort


That's okay! At least there will be ads soon!

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Reply #36 posted 02/10/04 6:49pm

Paisley

2the9s said:

Paisley said:

2the9s said:

Paisley said:

2the9s said:

blah blah blah...

So rd and C can come back?

biggrin



:LOL: pray


pray indeed.



comfort


That's okay! At least there will be ads soon!

biggrin


What do ads have to do with C and RD? confuse
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Reply #37 posted 02/10/04 7:04pm

gemini13

KoolAid said:

The problem is denial. Everybody wants to forget what happened and move on as long as it didn't affect them.
That's how slavery and racism have thrived so long in this country. I hold anger to none of yall, but as far as being friends or even remotely cool(you've got to be kidding) :LOL: Also i hear that the other(black side) makes racist remarks also. Can anybody point these out or are they just speculation? Cause the shit i got is from the horses mouth printed in black and white.



But I came here to talk about Prince, not black and white issues, and it irks me to see just about every thread ruined by people who see racism in everything. That's YOUR problem. Not mine. Why should I have to read such stupidity? That other site wasn't here, someone brought it here, and it seems to be all you can talk about. I wouldn't have seen it at all if someone hadn't been a sh*t stirrer. GET OVER IT!!! Take it to e-mail. Argue to your heart's content on IM. Referencing the KKK is offensive. Not all white people are that ignorant, just as you wouldn't want me to believe that all black people are drug dealers. Applekisses is not a member of that group, and you shouldn't even allude to it. That is so rude. That's all I'm going to say, and if you can't see what I'm talking about, then I feel sorry for you. You will forever be clouded in mind by your OWN resentment and hatred.
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Reply #38 posted 02/10/04 7:07pm

KoolAid

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gemini13 said:

KoolAid said:

The problem is denial. Everybody wants to forget what happened and move on as long as it didn't affect them.
That's how slavery and racism have thrived so long in this country. I hold anger to none of yall, but as far as being friends or even remotely cool(you've got to be kidding) :LOL: Also i hear that the other(black side) makes racist remarks also. Can anybody point these out or are they just speculation? Cause the shit i got is from the horses mouth printed in black and white.



But I came here to talk about Prince, not black and white issues, and it irks me to see just about every thread ruined by people who see racism in everything. That's YOUR problem. Not mine. Why should I have to read such stupidity? That other site wasn't here, someone brought it here, and it seems to be all you can talk about. I wouldn't have seen it at all if someone hadn't been a sh*t stirrer. GET OVER IT!!! Take it to e-mail. Argue to your heart's content on IM. Referencing the KKK is offensive. Not all white people are that ignorant, just as you wouldn't want me to believe that all black people are drug dealers. Applekisses is not a member of that group, and you shouldn't even allude to it. That is so rude. That's all I'm going to say, and if you can't see what I'm talking about, then I feel sorry for you. You will forever be clouded in mind by your OWN resentment and hatred.


Then you may be in the wrong section. This is GD and prince and prince related subjects aren't supposed to be in here.
What i see in applekisses may differ from what you see.
So go to the correct forum and talk about prince till you are blue in the face :LOL:
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Reply #39 posted 02/10/04 7:08pm

2the9s

KoolAid said:

gemini13 said:

KoolAid said:

The problem is denial. Everybody wants to forget what happened and move on as long as it didn't affect them.
That's how slavery and racism have thrived so long in this country. I hold anger to none of yall, but as far as being friends or even remotely cool(you've got to be kidding) :LOL: Also i hear that the other(black side) makes racist remarks also. Can anybody point these out or are they just speculation? Cause the shit i got is from the horses mouth printed in black and white.



But I came here to talk about Prince, not black and white issues, and it irks me to see just about every thread ruined by people who see racism in everything. That's YOUR problem. Not mine. Why should I have to read such stupidity? That other site wasn't here, someone brought it here, and it seems to be all you can talk about. I wouldn't have seen it at all if someone hadn't been a sh*t stirrer. GET OVER IT!!! Take it to e-mail. Argue to your heart's content on IM. Referencing the KKK is offensive. Not all white people are that ignorant, just as you wouldn't want me to believe that all black people are drug dealers. Applekisses is not a member of that group, and you shouldn't even allude to it. That is so rude. That's all I'm going to say, and if you can't see what I'm talking about, then I feel sorry for you. You will forever be clouded in mind by your OWN resentment and hatred.


Then you may be in the wrong section. This is GD and prince and prince related subjects aren't supposed to be in here.
What i see in applekisses may differ from what you see.
So go to the correct forum and talk about prince till you are blue in the face :LOL:


Besides, it's not only about racism, it's about double-talk!

Say what you mean, mean what you say, blah dee blah blah!!
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Reply #40 posted 02/10/04 7:16pm

bkw

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2the9s said:

blah blah blah...

So rd and C can come back?

biggrin

woot!
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Reply #41 posted 02/10/04 7:18pm

KoolAid

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KoolAid said:

gemini13 said:

KoolAid said:

The problem is denial. Everybody wants to forget what happened and move on as long as it didn't affect them.
That's how slavery and racism have thrived so long in this country. I hold anger to none of yall, but as far as being friends or even remotely cool(you've got to be kidding) :LOL: Also i hear that the other(black side) makes racist remarks also. Can anybody point these out or are they just speculation? Cause the shit i got is from the horses mouth printed in black and white.



But I came here to talk about Prince, not black and white issues, and it irks me to see just about every thread ruined by people who see racism in everything. That's YOUR problem. Not mine. Why should I have to read such stupidity? That other site wasn't here, someone brought it here, and it seems to be all you can talk about. I wouldn't have seen it at all if someone hadn't been a sh*t stirrer. GET OVER IT!!! Take it to e-mail. Argue to your heart's content on IM. Referencing the KKK is offensive. Not all white people are that ignorant, just as you wouldn't want me to believe that all black people are drug dealers. Applekisses is not a member of that group, and you shouldn't even allude to it. That is so rude. That's all I'm going to say, and if you can't see what I'm talking about, then I feel sorry for you. You will forever be clouded in mind by your OWN resentment and hatred.


Then you may be in the wrong section. This is GD and prince and prince related subjects aren't supposed to be in here.
What i see in applekisses may differ from what you see.
So go to the correct forum and talk about prince till you are blue in the face :LOL:


And looking at where and what you post it looks like Prince is one of the few things you don't talk about. You are the type of person that hides and tells lies to start shit.
Show me you prince posts. I would like to see them :LOL:
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Reply #42 posted 02/10/04 7:20pm

bkw

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KoolAid said:

KoolAid said:

gemini13 said:

KoolAid said:

The problem is denial. Everybody wants to forget what happened and move on as long as it didn't affect them.
That's how slavery and racism have thrived so long in this country. I hold anger to none of yall, but as far as being friends or even remotely cool(you've got to be kidding) :LOL: Also i hear that the other(black side) makes racist remarks also. Can anybody point these out or are they just speculation? Cause the shit i got is from the horses mouth printed in black and white.



But I came here to talk about Prince, not black and white issues, and it irks me to see just about every thread ruined by people who see racism in everything. That's YOUR problem. Not mine. Why should I have to read such stupidity? That other site wasn't here, someone brought it here, and it seems to be all you can talk about. I wouldn't have seen it at all if someone hadn't been a sh*t stirrer. GET OVER IT!!! Take it to e-mail. Argue to your heart's content on IM. Referencing the KKK is offensive. Not all white people are that ignorant, just as you wouldn't want me to believe that all black people are drug dealers. Applekisses is not a member of that group, and you shouldn't even allude to it. That is so rude. That's all I'm going to say, and if you can't see what I'm talking about, then I feel sorry for you. You will forever be clouded in mind by your OWN resentment and hatred.


Then you may be in the wrong section. This is GD and prince and prince related subjects aren't supposed to be in here.
What i see in applekisses may differ from what you see.
So go to the correct forum and talk about prince till you are blue in the face :LOL:


And looking at where and what you post it looks like Prince is one of the few things you don't talk about. You are the type of person that hides and tells lies to start shit.
Show me you prince posts. I would like to see them :LOL:

Did somebody say Troll? giggle
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Reply #43 posted 02/10/04 7:21pm

KoolAid

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bkw said:

KoolAid said:

KoolAid said:

gemini13 said:

KoolAid said:

The problem is denial. Everybody wants to forget what happened and move on as long as it didn't affect them.
That's how slavery and racism have thrived so long in this country. I hold anger to none of yall, but as far as being friends or even remotely cool(you've got to be kidding) :LOL: Also i hear that the other(black side) makes racist remarks also. Can anybody point these out or are they just speculation? Cause the shit i got is from the horses mouth printed in black and white.



But I came here to talk about Prince, not black and white issues, and it irks me to see just about every thread ruined by people who see racism in everything. That's YOUR problem. Not mine. Why should I have to read such stupidity? That other site wasn't here, someone brought it here, and it seems to be all you can talk about. I wouldn't have seen it at all if someone hadn't been a sh*t stirrer. GET OVER IT!!! Take it to e-mail. Argue to your heart's content on IM. Referencing the KKK is offensive. Not all white people are that ignorant, just as you wouldn't want me to believe that all black people are drug dealers. Applekisses is not a member of that group, and you shouldn't even allude to it. That is so rude. That's all I'm going to say, and if you can't see what I'm talking about, then I feel sorry for you. You will forever be clouded in mind by your OWN resentment and hatred.


Then you may be in the wrong section. This is GD and prince and prince related subjects aren't supposed to be in here.
What i see in applekisses may differ from what you see.
So go to the correct forum and talk about prince till you are blue in the face :LOL:


And looking at where and what you post it looks like Prince is one of the few things you don't talk about. You are the type of person that hides and tells lies to start shit.
Show me you prince posts. I would like to see them :LOL:

Did somebody say Troll? giggle


nod The date coincides with ices departure hmm
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Reply #44 posted 02/10/04 8:29pm

KoolAid

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And i see you like to flame as well. nod :LOL:

gemini13 said:

You wouldn't know who I was anyway. I was new here about two months ago. I got tired of reading that douchebag's reverse racism, and left the site. Yes. I left the site ALL BECAUSE OF RDAHOLE. He is a total scumbag. I cannot TOLERATE black people who use racism as a crutch. My agreeing that Rdhull was/is a racist himself means that I have no brain? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OKaaay???
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Reply #45 posted 02/10/04 9:29pm

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KoolAid said:

And i see you like to flame as well. nod :LOL:

gemini13 said:

You wouldn't know who I was anyway. I was new here about two months ago. I got tired of reading that douchebag's reverse racism, and left the site. Yes. I left the site ALL BECAUSE OF RDAHOLE. He is a total scumbag. I cannot TOLERATE black people who use racism as a crutch. My agreeing that Rdhull was/is a racist himself means that I have no brain? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OKaaay???


whaaa? sos said that? now that Im gone etc? typical but still... disbelief
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Reply #46 posted 02/10/04 10:36pm

KoolAid

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gazoo said:

KoolAid said:

And i see you like to flame as well. nod :LOL:

gemini13 said:

You wouldn't know who I was anyway. I was new here about two months ago. I got tired of reading that douchebag's reverse racism, and left the site. Yes. I left the site ALL BECAUSE OF RDAHOLE. He is a total scumbag. I cannot TOLERATE black people who use racism as a crutch. My agreeing that Rdhull was/is a racist himself means that I have no brain? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OKaaay???


whaaa? sos said that? now that Im gone etc? typical but still... disbelief


The "other" Gemini? No way :LOL:
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Reply #47 posted 02/10/04 10:39pm

gazoo

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KoolAid said:

gazoo said:

KoolAid said:

And i see you like to flame as well. nod :LOL:

gemini13 said:

You wouldn't know who I was anyway. I was new here about two months ago. I got tired of reading that douchebag's reverse racism, and left the site. Yes. I left the site ALL BECAUSE OF RDAHOLE. He is a total scumbag. I cannot TOLERATE black people who use racism as a crutch. My agreeing that Rdhull was/is a racist himself means that I have no brain? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OKaaay???


whaaa? sos said that? now that Im gone etc? typical but still... disbelief


The "other" Gemini? No way :LOL:


disbelief
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Reply #48 posted 02/10/04 11:00pm

gazoo

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2the9s said:

blah blah blah...

So rd and C can come back?

biggrin

lol
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Reply #49 posted 02/11/04 12:39am

Abrazo

JediMaster said:


So it all comes down to communication, does it not? We need to choose our words carefully, since this is a medium of nothing but words. Does this mean we can't make jokes or give each other a bit of a hard time? Of course not, but we need to be RESPONSIBLE about it. We need to start examining our racial, political and social issues in an intelligent manner, instead of making lame jokes and calling each other names. We need to talk with one another on an adult level. Most of all, we need to respect each other.

Well said!
And if I may add: we need to loose the double standards when it comes to sensitive issues like race, politics and religion.
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Reply #50 posted 02/11/04 12:48am

Abrazo

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:


In my previous incarnation on the Org as Stymie, I was accussed by select orgers and some who used different screen names to try and insult me, one of which has tried to use my words against me on another site, of being an Uncle Tom, of not being black enough, of being a self-loathing black woman, etc. Some of these same people spouted hateful words towards persons of another race, some kind of tit-for-tat bullshit, you call me a racist and I'm gonna call you one back, yada yada. Some of the things I said in the past were said out of my own ignorance. I can admit that. I am a work in progress whose eyes were recently opened with the other site drama.

I am choosing to rise above the bullshit.

You are a brave, intelligent and sexy woman and I have much respect for you. We all make mistakes. What really matters are our intentions. Rise. hug
You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security.
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Reply #51 posted 02/11/04 12:49am

GrayKing

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actually, what's really wrong with the org, is that a lot of people on all sides of an issue get off on dredging up this nonsense over and over again all the time. it makes things ugly here for long expanses of time, but it really is the engine that drives the place. there's the lead-up, the blow-up, the reaction, the over-reaction, and finally the analysis, over-analysis and downright beating a dead horse phases.


guess which ones last the longest, and are the most problematic for the health of the site? i'll give you a hint: not the first 3.
"Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one."
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Reply #52 posted 02/11/04 12:58am

crazyhorse

TheOrgerFormer
lyKnownAs said:
Whether or not people choose to believe it, I am not a sell-out or any other deroggatory term my own people have chosen to call me. I choose to see the person and not the color of his or her skin, and when I refer to my friends, I don't say 'my white friend Chris' or 'my Hispanic friend Richard'. They are Chris and Richard to me and I really should not have let the words of a few people affect me so much, especially when they have to hide behind multiple screen personalities to do so. As far as my dating preference, as I am sure that will be tried to be used against me yet again, when I made the comment I should have given an explanation as to why I feel the way I do or maybe I shouldn't have. Evryone has reasons as to why they are attracted to a certain type of person. Does that make me self-loathing? Don't know. Don't give a fuck anymore.

There are a lot of times where I feel that I am in the middle on something. If I agree with someone who happens to be white, I get accused of being a sell-out, so I stay on the sidelines and say nothing. And that's one of the problems on the Org: Staying on the sidelines. Racism and homophobia is wrong no matter who spouts it. I do not believe with my whole being that rdhull is a homophobe. I believe the issues he had with Chris were trying to prove a point: There are racists things said on the Org that go unchecked. But that's on both sides, though. If someone who's white starts a bait thread and says something hateful, someone black will strike back with something equally hateful, which is, in my opinion, counterproductive and juvenile. This works both ways, by the way.


I havent posted a single thing reguarding all the madness that went down.But these to paragraphs really caught my attention.Being Irish,German,Cherokee and African American,growing up I didnt no which pack to run with.So my choice was made for me,living in an all white community and going to a private Luthern school all my friends we pretty much white.But I also dont see people in terms of color.Its an ignorant way of thinking and being.And I'm not talking about being proud of your heritage either.If someone says something that gets me mad.I dont give a fuck who you are or who it might piss off.You and I are gonna go a few rounds.Whats right is right.Color,sexual pref.religion dont mean shit up next to it.

Now,all of what I just spoke of is how I act in the real world.On the internet is a whole different story.I used to be a regular at some interracial chatroom on msn.Anyway,after being there a few months this really funny dude told me that he and this chick are really the people behind twenty two different nic's that go to that room.These fools were good,they showed me how they did it and shortly after seeing what assholes there making people in the room to look like,I had to speak up.Not that I gave a fuck,but not everyone sees the same way and to some,chatrooms and forums etc are very important and thats were there friends are.I come here to laugh and trip with you guys and thats it.Theres all kinds of ignorant stupid things being said that the mods.dont catch or ignore.So what?90% of the people here I dont know even what they look like let alone there beliefs or whatever the fuck there trip is.So why get into this whole fucking episode of he said she said?Do you really no who your fighting against?If so,you'll claim victory.If not good luck cause it will never end.


TheOrgerFormer
lyKnownAs,I always thought you were a white chick?
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Reply #53 posted 02/11/04 4:29am

jonylawson

ive been on the org from the start..all this stuff im just so oblivious to...do people really get this involved..books are nice u know,and friends and the sunshine etc
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Reply #54 posted 02/11/04 6:22am

PusherMan

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What we have here is a failure to communicate...
Here I am, you lucky people!
I know a thing or two about a thing or two!!
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Reply #55 posted 02/11/04 7:01am

gemini13

KoolAid said:

KoolAid said:

gemini13 said:

KoolAid said:

The problem is denial. Everybody wants to forget what happened and move on as long as it didn't affect them.
That's how slavery and racism have thrived so long in this country. I hold anger to none of yall, but as far as being friends or even remotely cool(you've got to be kidding) :LOL: Also i hear that the other(black side) makes racist remarks also. Can anybody point these out or are they just speculation? Cause the shit i got is from the horses mouth printed in black and white.



But I came here to talk about Prince, not black and white issues, and it irks me to see just about every thread ruined by people who see racism in everything. That's YOUR problem. Not mine. Why should I have to read such stupidity? That other site wasn't here, someone brought it here, and it seems to be all you can talk about. I wouldn't have seen it at all if someone hadn't been a sh*t stirrer. GET OVER IT!!! Take it to e-mail. Argue to your heart's content on IM. Referencing the KKK is offensive. Not all white people are that ignorant, just as you wouldn't want me to believe that all black people are drug dealers. Applekisses is not a member of that group, and you shouldn't even allude to it. That is so rude. That's all I'm going to say, and if you can't see what I'm talking about, then I feel sorry for you. You will forever be clouded in mind by your OWN resentment and hatred.


Then you may be in the wrong section. This is GD and prince and prince related subjects aren't supposed to be in here.
What i see in applekisses may differ from what you see.
So go to the correct forum and talk about prince till you are blue in the face :LOL:


And looking at where and what you post it looks like Prince is one of the few things you don't talk about. You are the type of person that hides and tells lies to start shit.
Show me you prince posts. I would like to see them :LOL:


Look em up. rolleyes
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Reply #56 posted 02/11/04 7:03am

KoolAid

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gemini13 said:

KoolAid said:

KoolAid said:

gemini13 said:

KoolAid said:

The problem is denial. Everybody wants to forget what happened and move on as long as it didn't affect them.
That's how slavery and racism have thrived so long in this country. I hold anger to none of yall, but as far as being friends or even remotely cool(you've got to be kidding) :LOL: Also i hear that the other(black side) makes racist remarks also. Can anybody point these out or are they just speculation? Cause the shit i got is from the horses mouth printed in black and white.



But I came here to talk about Prince, not black and white issues, and it irks me to see just about every thread ruined by people who see racism in everything. That's YOUR problem. Not mine. Why should I have to read such stupidity? That other site wasn't here, someone brought it here, and it seems to be all you can talk about. I wouldn't have seen it at all if someone hadn't been a sh*t stirrer. GET OVER IT!!! Take it to e-mail. Argue to your heart's content on IM. Referencing the KKK is offensive. Not all white people are that ignorant, just as you wouldn't want me to believe that all black people are drug dealers. Applekisses is not a member of that group, and you shouldn't even allude to it. That is so rude. That's all I'm going to say, and if you can't see what I'm talking about, then I feel sorry for you. You will forever be clouded in mind by your OWN resentment and hatred.


Then you may be in the wrong section. This is GD and prince and prince related subjects aren't supposed to be in here.
What i see in applekisses may differ from what you see.
So go to the correct forum and talk about prince till you are blue in the face :LOL:


And looking at where and what you post it looks like Prince is one of the few things you don't talk about. You are the type of person that hides and tells lies to start shit.
Show me you prince posts. I would like to see them :LOL:


Look em up. rolleyes


I did, :LOL: Do you know what a troll is?
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Reply #57 posted 02/11/04 7:09am

CherrieMoonKis
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wooow Stymie's balck and a girl...just like me!! omg
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Reply #58 posted 02/11/04 7:14am

DavidEye

"Prince is one of the few things you don't talk about.Show me your Prince posts.I would like to see them."


This brings up an interesting point.Not mentioning any names,but a few of those Quaidbowl guys NEVER came here to discuss Prince.If you do a search of their posts, you would see that they only posted in the P&R and General discussion forums (two forums where race-related topics frequently come up).Which kinda makes you wonder...what were their REAL reasons for joining this site?
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Reply #59 posted 02/11/04 7:18am

violator

DavidEye said:

"Prince is one of the few things you don't talk about.Show me your Prince posts.I would like to see them."


This brings up an interesting point.Not mentioning any names,but a few of those Quaidbowl guys NEVER came here to discuss Prince.If you do a search of their posts, you would see that they only posted in the P&R and General discussion forums (two forums where race-related topics frequently come up).Which kinda makes you wonder...what were their REAL reasons for joining this site?


I remember saying on a previous post that it was only recently that I realized this side of the org even existed. I thought all the drama was in the music forums...could someone be more wrong?
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