There is NO excuse for the "jokes" u posted in that thread over there, Jedimaster.

U have sickened me beyong belief, i regret my curiosity to find out what was going on.
U r a sick and crazy fucked up being to even repeat such words, for any reason, and i dont give a stuff if any flames me for this.

No excuses, you sick fuck.

IAmTheTouch said:

Exactly...

Wonderful if it helps you...but think for a moment how it effects others.

naughtylittleraven said:

Ithey better not flame you or they will be as abnormal as these ingrates...

IAmTheTouch said:

EXACTLY!!!

Marrk said:

No. I generally don't discuss such things. In fact, very few people know the details, and I want to keep it that way.

Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that it was a joke. Dark humor is, by its very nature, controversial. Many people don't get it. There was a documentary about this on the Trio network a few months back (which is where I got most of those jokes). The interesting thing that was found was that most "racial" jokes actually originate within that racial group. Why would people spread jokes about their own race? What most of the psychologists concluded was that it was a coping mechanism (which is what I'm illustrating here). Likewise, those who were white folks with many minority friends found the jokes to be more offensive than almost anyone else. Its like, if the joke is at your expense, you can laugh, but if its about someone you care about, its not.

I have a pretty thick skin about these things. I can laugh at them, even if the dark truth of it isn't funny at all. For example, I make Michael Jackson jokes, but the plain truth is, if the man actually committed these crimes, then he should be locked away for good. I underststand those who don't find them funny, and I don't fault you for it. Just consider this, I would not have made such jokes about these things if I didn't know who my audience was: a bunch of folks with very thick skins, and very sick senses of humour. I never intended these things to be read by the Org at large, because I knew some people are touchy about such subjects.

No excuses are gonna make this right. All of the people posting on this so-called private forum (which of course is an oxymoron since it's on the internet) have proved themselves to be worthless individuals with no self-worth. Go away, all of you, and never come back.


I hope that everything that made you all the hateful people you have become comes back to haunt you in real life.

IAmTheTouch said:

I have to say, you're one of the few people calling me out who actually does so in a mature manner.

No, I don't find solace in all the years I've dealt with this. Whenever I deal with this, it is painful. I Don't think any amount of involvment will take the pain away, nor will it go away with the jokes I make.

I never intended to hurt or offend anyone. It was foolish of me to post those jokes, because I should have known they would eventually leak out to others who wouldn't understand them. I'm truly sorry for those whom I have hurt. I guess now my own pain has caused others the same. I have attempted to explain my actions, but it seems that many are just to hell-bent on seeing me "pay" for something I did on another site. If this is the case, so be it.

Teacher said:

Even Aaron looks to have called it a day now, Jedimaster seems masochistic in the way he continues to try being accepted for his sick mind.

MD7 said:

Humour him for a while, it's all therapeutic. He's trying to deal with being molested as a child, it's all a joke

JediMaster said:

I think, tho, that that's a problem many have...it's not like these types of jokes were said during a group counseling session for survivors of child abuse...your audience, in your own words, were people who do find humor in such things. It's not just about who you offend, but also about who you encourage.

The juxtaposition and play on words can cause something to be funny...but the subject matter can tend to negate that.

Byron said:

I see your point. In fact, this is probably the best argument I've read yet. I accept this, and once again apologise to those I've offended.

JediMaster said:

There is no need...


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[This message was edited Tue Feb 3 9:16:30 PST 2004 by sag10]

sag10 said:

MD7 said:

Co-

Decent? Did u read the fucking threads?? Decent? This is so far from decent the Mars probes didn't find it yet.

MD7 said:

Why? I don't understand!

sag10 said:

aaron?

cborgman said:

Yes, I have been here 6 years. And I will tell you one thing about Aaron. He is consistent, brash, and has a very sensitive side to himself.

MD7 said:

I'm not trying to be accepted. I'm trying to explain myself. Look, you and I can keep up the name-calling all day, but nothing is going to get accomplished by that. You can post your KKK pics, and that is really no different than what I did: you're expressing your outrage in a humorous way. I'll even give you props for the cleverness of it, even though I don't agree. (I hardly think the KKK would want me, since I'm of jewish descent, but the absurdity is funny. )

I think you're quite witty, but I don't agree with your assessment of me. You and I pretty much clashed from the get-go, since I didn't like what you had to say, and vice versa. Maybe we should stop the quibbling, and try to understand one another, even if we don't agree. So far, Byron and Iamthetouch have made very compelling arguments against me, and have even swayed me somewhat. So, can we do the same, or would you prefer we remain at each other's throats? I'm not asking you to agree with me, or even like me, I'm just asking that we quite this sniping and actually discuss the issues at hand. (this is extended to everyone)

JediMaster said:

You have another site to post on. Go away and be humorous somewhere else. 99% of the patrons of this site no longer want you here, and the remaining 1% are banned users' alternate accounts.

Go away.

IAmtheTouch : you are SO right

Your statements shocked me. I saw the name, the avatar... yes, it was you.

...and now you're here trying to smooth it over.


It's time you move on. Your excuses hold no water. Your posts on that site were most offensive, disgusting and vile. Your disdain of this site was clearly noted. Your hatred of some of the folks here was quite adamant.

The best thing you can do now is leave.

Teacher said:

Nope, don't agree...far better to talk with than to talk about...and ignoring something never makes it better.

Teacher said:

So, you've spoken to 99% of the Orgers?

June7 said:

The disdain of this site has been clearly stated on the Org as well. I do truly dislike some of the folks over here, and I frequently call them out over here as well.

AlfofMelmak said:

Alf, you are SO left (rimshot!!)


Thank yew...

sag10 said:

he's human, i'll give him that.

AlfofMelmak said:

I don't disagree with you. She made some very eloquent arguments, and has even swayed me somewhat.

cborgman said:

Chris, I'd really like you to weigh in here. I respect you alot. If you feel I should leave the Org, I will take it with a bit more seriousness than all these other folks.

Byron said:

Talk with..do you expect to gain insight from such a person, or perhaps to change their mind?

I wouldn't want to communicate with someone like that, cuz it would be truly pointless. How would you know which one of the hypocrit (sp?) mind you are talking to?

Jedi, you're contemptable and I really hope that you one day will understand that you are part of the nastiness in this world.