ATTN MODS: Don’t delete it. Some of you expressed interest in hearing from people on that site, so here it is. And matt, don’t you even think about deleting it, because you’re all wrapped up in this too.


First, I would like to extend an apology to cborgman. Actually, I’d like to extend it to the people that I like that I’ve hurt by my statements on that other site about cborgman. To them, I apologize profoundly for hurting them. I know that I have, and I feel badly about it. I was pissed at cborgman and I said something extremely offensive about him in the heat of the moment. Since it was posted almost a week ago, I’d completely forgotten about it or I would have edited/deleted it when cooler heads prevailed.

Then comes my apology to cborgman. I do not like you. I detest you. But I said a vile thing about you, and for that I’m sorry. Actually, there are plenty of mean and vile things I could say about you without demeaning myself in the process, but I said what I did. I cannot stand the sight of your name on my screen, or the sniveling that is typed by your fingers. But I’m big enough to know when I’ve gone too far, and I did, so I apologize. You’ll either get over it or you won’t. That’s up to you. I really don’t care one way or the other. Take it or leave it, but there it is offered to you.

Third, beyond my statements about cborgman, I have nothing for which to apologize and
I make no apologies for the other people on the site. They’re adults. They say what they have to say, and I say what I have to say. Occasionally, the two intersect; often they do not. I used that site as an opportunity to vent my rage at the org in general, and several orgers I dislike in particular. That’s it.

I’d like to point to the fact that I actually stated my friendship with and the fact that I LIKE some of the people that were apparently targets there, and now seem to be lumping everyone at that site together, such as Dansa, rdhull, and AnotherLover; as did several others. I defy you to find a racist post by me, tackam, supafunky, ian, etc. I’ve never uttered a racist comment in my life and I haven’t now.

And yes, MD7, I see you trolling around looking for apologies. Apologies for what? I still haven’t said anything racist, neither to you nor on that site. Your example of my treatment of Germans falls flat. But I suppose you’ll now extend homophobia to the definition. Which shows how far you have to stretch in order to make your case. Guess what! I’m half German and ALL gay So good luck with that one. I apologize for nothing I ever said about you. In fact, I've thought up a few more. But I'm keeping this clean. Check the other forum in a few days' time, if you can still find it, and I'll put them on display for you.

And that “silence is a conspirator” line is going to be wasted, if anyone dare utter it. That’s the point of an unmoderated forum. You say what you want, and you stand up for yourself and deal with it yourself. That’s what I’m doing. I leave the rest of the mess for the others to apologize for or admit to, or what have you. I don’t expect they will. I can’t say I blame them. THAT is NONE of my business. That’s theirs and yours, if you’ve still got your knives out and sharpened. Have at them. Don’t care one way or the other for either group at this point.

All I know is my business.

For one thing, you cast some of us out. Now, I can understand why those of us on that site who were thrown out of here would be pissed off, and have an axe to grind.

Pray tell, what axe do the people here have to grind? For instance, the person known as “YALL ARE PATHETIC” coming on and posting? And intentionally crashing the site through some hacking techniques?

Yeah, WE’RE pathetic. But there’s an entire page full of threads here, talking about it. What care do you have for what a group of people you cast out have to say about you, and where? Particularly when it’s on a private forum? You win. We’re gone. Enjoy your org.

But that’s typical org fascism for you. Some of you think you run the internet. That you have a say in what can and can’t be said where and by whom. I’m sorry, but your tactics only extend to the shores of the org.

You cast us out. Some of you worked pretty damned hard to do it. So we’ve congregated elsewhere to vent. Considering all of the people who are still on the org are always going on and on about the banned orgers and we don’t get to say a damn thing because we can’t post, why shouldn’t we congregate elsewhere to blow some steam?

Why wouldn’t we say it in a private forum? Tell me why not. There is no reason why we shouldn’t. The moment we were booted from here, or placed under heavy moderation, there was no opportunity to argue and fight “face to face” here. That option was taken away by the fascist culture that’s overrun the org and turned everyone into a bunch of crybabies around here that can’t stand up for themselves without clicking “report” or suddenly jumping up to scream “FLAMES!” at the slightest bit of negativity. If you didn’t want us off bitching in a secret forum, I guess you shouldn’t have done your damnedest to get us thrown off of here. But since you did, we’ll do as we please, with or without your blessing. When it comes right down to it, it’s really none of your business anymore.

Anyway, that’s just my bit. I don’t speak for anyone on that site other than me. Take it or leave it. I really don’t care. The org culture is beyond repair. And kicking us out, or even getting that other forum shut down isn’t going to reverse that. Because it comes from the org. The fact that none of it ever changes, and you all go around and around in the same arguments, only with new players, when the supposed troublemakers are gone speaks volumes.

You’ll all move on to your next issue in about a week’s time. I’m almost pissed that this came up, because it took the spotlight away from my banning


Just kidding. Do your thing org. You always do. It never changes. It hasn’t in 8 years, what makes you think it will now?

Org on




PS: leave this account open, and I may see fit to come back by throughout the day to answer questions or respond to comments.


Or I may not. I’m sure you’ll all have plenty to say, true or false, whether anyone’s here to set you straight or not.

"Heal the world...make it a better place..."

Whats rejoicing in Cborgman's AIDS disease got to do with homophobia? Nobody said that. Hell, maybe you aren't even racist in literal sense of the word. Are you a sad, pitiful, charmless, tactless, offensive little simpleton of a man though? Hell yeah.

cborgman said:

Cloudbuster said:

good morning...

cborgman said:

oh, you say that now. like you laughed it up on my final post. but the minute i'm gone, you start jabbering. you don't fool anyone. you think that because this recent ugliness has come up that you're off the hook. i wouldn't count on it. as i said, the org culture is beyond repair, and you'll be punching the clock playing victim 9-5 in no time. org dramas don't last as long as they used to. someone call wardrobe for a costume-change!

there is a part of me that really wants to rip into this sugared bullshit of yours, aaron, and rip you a new fucking asshole for all the bloated exaggerations and bullshit you have been aggressively creating about me and who i am as a person for 4 fucking months now.

but i don't think i need to.

it isn't going to do me any good to have that one my soul, and it isn't going to do you any good, because you are so insanely convinced of your superiority that you can't see what a incredibly scarred and flawed person you are. and all it's going to do is court a big fight, and i really don't want to sink to your level.

so have a nice life, and enjoy your ban.

cborgman said:

How you doing, sir?

Sorry to hear about the AIDS comment. I know I have a rather tasteless sense of humour at times but that shit is harsh.

MD7 said:

i'm all you aspire to be, darling.

cborgman said:

uh huh. don't think i haven't been watching how you've been twisting shit this past week since i was gone. your sense of history is quite imaginitive




oh, i see all of my scars and flaws. but at the end of the day, you're right, i am superior to you after all.

Cloudbuster said:

he meant for it to be.

and don't worry, i am a big boy, i can handle it. i have been turning the other cheek to his bullshit for four months solid now.