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"I said nothing." "First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me." --Pastor Martin Niemöller Man...if the org ever discovers this thread, you're gonna BURN.  --Teller
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KoolAid said: "First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me." --Pastor Martin Niemöller why did you edit it? Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: KoolAid said: "First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me." --Pastor Martin Niemöller why did you edit it? huh? I got it from this site: http://www.liv-coll.ac.uk....htm#quote Man...if the org ever discovers this thread, you're gonna BURN. --Teller
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KoolAid said: cborgman said: KoolAid said: "First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me." --Pastor Martin Niemöller why did you edit it? huh? I got it from this site: http://www.liv-coll.ac.uk....htm#quote i read the site... the version of that quote i read in high school had the line about homosexuals. the site says people added that later. i love that even within his quote about standing up for those different than you he doesn't seem to care that they came for the gypsies, the JWs and the gays... Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: KoolAid said: cborgman said: KoolAid said: "First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me." --Pastor Martin Niemöller why did you edit it? huh? I got it from this site: http://www.liv-coll.ac.uk....htm#quote i read the site... the version of that quote i read in high school had the line about homosexuals. the site says people added that later. i love that even within his quote about standing up for those different than you he doesn't seem to care that they came for the gypsies, the JWs and the gays... Yes I had not realized that the original quote was so skimmed down. Seems that he may have had his own blindspots as well. The point though--that silence is a conspirator--is still comes through even if he himself maintained his own silences. Man...if the org ever discovers this thread, you're gonna BURN. --Teller
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From 2001 on amp:
Date: 2001-08-30 08:00:32 PST >From: ***@aol.complacent (***) >I am sure the ***** race can fight its own hate war without the help of me, >thanks. Not the point and can be seen as a cop out [b]>>From: rdhull@aol.comvelvtswt (thefreak) >I didn't think it was my place to chime in when you guys were arguing >considering I'm NOT black Oh I see...so it was everything I said it was. ...I kind of see where you are coming from..not to make this a big thing but I slowly realizing this is how 95 percent of how people think in the world. I keep thinking of a phrase that many may know so dont kill me if I get it wrong..about the holocaust or I believe..."when they came for the jews I said nothing..when they came for the gypsy's I said nothing..when they came for the homosexuals I said nothing...when they came for the gypsys'/ minorities I said nothing..when they came for me there was noody to help me..."...Maybe Im too idealistic. Not saying that every bit of ignorance needs to be adressed. [This message was edited Tue Feb 3 0:14:13 PST 2004 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: From 2001 on amp:
Date: 2001-08-30 08:00:32 PST >From: ***@aol.complacent (***) >I am sure the *** race can fight its own hate war without the help of me, >thanks. Not the point and can be seen as a cop out [b]>>From: rdhull@aol.comvelvtswt (thefreak) >I didn't think it was my place to chime in when you guys were arguing >considering I'm NOT black Oh I see...so it was everything I said it was. ...I kind of see where you are coming from..not to make this a big thing but I slowly realizing this is how 95 percent of how people think in the world. I keep thinking of a phrase that many may know so dont kill me if I get it wrong..about the holocaust or I believe..."when they came for the jews I said nothing..when they came for the gypsy's I said nothing..when they came for the homosexuals I said nothing...when they came for the gypsys'/ minorities I said nothing..when they came for me there was noody to help me..."...Maybe Im too idealistic. Not saying that every bit of ignorance needs to be adressed. [This message was edited Tue Feb 3 0:14:13 PST 2004 by rdhull] that is how i have usually seen the quote, apparently misquoted from the original source to make the speakers truth more true and less biased... Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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