cborgman said:

I don't know. I don't know the specifics nor do I want to. But I do think both of you have the right to be here and peacefully co-exist. What it will take to make that happen, I have no idea.

TRON said:

Civil is what I meant. Believe me, there have been people that have been very fucked up to me. Instead of starting a war, I ignore them. Which is what Chris may ultimately have to do. I don't think it's too much to call a truce but it becomes about being the "Alpha" in the whole situation. Ignore it and call it a day. The people who love and know you Chris don't pay attention to all that madness anyway so at the end of the day it doesn't really matter...

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Couldn't have said it better myself.

It's not about winning or your reputation.

At the end of the day it's about enjoying yourself and keeping up with the people who DO care about you.

Why would I worry about what people that don't know me think of me? They're in no position to make an informed judgement. Their opinions have no bearing on what my friends or I think about me.

cborgman said:

Okay. But keep in mind that he's long gone and you're still talking about him.

cborg:

1. and one was ready with the quicknes ot say "niggers would be mad" ..but then go abiout whinin and cryin all day about homophobia

2. quit dosparaging andf bringin up aaron when he is not here to defend himself..u say u like to droop it and have but thats a lie...on my Star Ratings thread in P Org Site forum u leave a last statement alluiding that the star rater was him..thats really leaving things alone

among othe r things of always bvruinging aaron up after he has not even been here for 5 days etc..

u basically are full of shit and can not admit to anything..isantiable who has an indifferent stance with me stated somehings and I admitted some may be true..yoiu cant take any criticism

Tron and another suggetsed maybe u may have a hand in htings and u begin your cycle again and can never say "I admit..maybe I went about this...wrong etc" or what have u

you are a fuckin drama queen who wants everyone to just love u...this aint th e oscars its a websiter and u aint up for no academy award

but u are working it like a regualr facotry 9 to 5

Let me first state that I have not read these comments that upset CBorgman so I don't know how inflamatory they were. However he told RD he didn't like them and asked him privately through orgnotes to edit the comment and he basically gets a Fuck you in return and then is called a Drama queen for drumming up this issue with the moderators? Does anybody see the pure comedy that people are asking Chris why he thinks he's in the middle of such spats?

If this had been a racial jest, and someone took it the wrong way and told the person who made the jest they didn't like what was said...if that jest truly was not malicious in nature the person would obviously edit their post to clarify instead of leaving it for someone to "misinterpret"
But to receive a F you instead leaves one to think that person meant what they said.

Maybe it's because I spent my whole life at the other end of fucked up comments and insults that they rarely phase me but if Chris was uncomfortable with something someone said, it should be considered every bit as egregious as Icenine's racial baiting threads if the person continues engaging in their behavior.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Mr know it all:

1.I never was told whicjh comments were supposedl;y homophobic

the thuings I did say he posted and wrote--I have no problems with them..I am not offended

hours later he decided\sto keep yo yo iNG AND SAY "EDIT THEM!"

EDITR WHICH ONES? by then its like ya know what--U\Im not editing anything because it was in ocntext of th ethread subject and he cant make up his moind

plus he thus goes on to spread shit on me private and public...

and still--which comments? and at his whim

whatever?

plus there is way more to th e story

Oh Dansa??? Wherefore art thou, Dansa?

kiss85 said:

This one needs to stand for the record.

rdhull said:

I only know what I see. Icenine was known for baiting people and acting innocent. You and Aaron have that trick down too. I've seen the both of you on Chris for a long long time and I always left it alone. Now it's just getting ugly and I think the both of you need to call a truce and stop this bullshit.

kiss85 said:

Right? Someone needs to pull the plug on this shit. WTF? Is it one Org exodus a year or something?

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

I think this thread is an important one. There are objective opinions by people like Supa and myself that I feel are valuable to this argument. Instead of all this constant back and forth and moderator intervention, we're trying to offer some constructive criticism. Chris was even asking for a truce. That's something.

Note to moderators: please let this play out.

rdhull said:

If your concern was that you didn't know which comments he preferred to be edited, why would your initial reaction be a basic "F" you and not finding out what actually upset him?

We all want to speak honestly. That is one of my own strenghts. I don't sugar coat and pussy foot around things but there is a way to do it which doesn't cause such strife. On that thread where you said you thought you might get deactivated, were you saying that because of anything that actually happened (i.e. chris said he was going to report you, a moderator warned you etc...) or was it just speculation?

For the record, Chris has never not once sent me any private notes regarding his issues with you and Aaron. I let him fight his battles for himself cuz I didn't want to stir things up even more than they already were.

He's asking you for a truce, you should consider it and be done with this. You know I consider you a friend so this aint about me hatin on you or anthing like that. I just think this thing is out of control and undeservedly so.

first of all the quote:

rdhull said:

is complete and utter BULLSHIT, and a completely fabricated quote. it isn't even close to what i said, neither in sentence wording or content.

second:

is also complete and utter bullshit, see below:

rdhull said:

the snipped content of which was "you forgot all the "you're all inthenthitive type exasperations"
(repeated from memory, so may not be word perfect, but please feel free to ask matt for verification. the bold and lisping typing was all his, not added by me at all)

now, for those of you who aren't aware of such things, this is the gay version of doing blackface. you do limp wrists, you lisp, you make funny faces.... we've all seen it. well, it's extremely offensive.

so i ask nicely:

cborgman said:

at this point, C steps in:

cborgman said:

and then RD RESPONDED:

rdhull said:

the censored content of which was "fuck em if they can take a dick but can't take a joke"
(again repeated from memory, so may not be word perfect, but please feel free to ask matt for verification)

now, how he claims to not know what comments SINCE HE RESPONDED TO IT by saying he would not edit and adds yet another homophobic barb, is totally against reason. but i give him the benefit of the doubt. not wanting it to escalate into a big drama, i take it to orgnotes:



yes, it is against the rules to post orgnotes from other people, so i will paraphrase the response which basically said:


(only one word per sentence slightly changed so he can't claim i made it up nor can he claim i posted his orgnotes)

and then he blocked me from orgnoting him. what other choice did i have? so i reported em to mods, and specified that i did not want him deactivated for them, just to have the comments remove.

now, let's imagine for one moment that he genuinely didn't know which comments i meant, completely ignoring the fact that he responded to my complain about the comment in the same thread. also, we must ignore that in his response above he claims to not knowing which comments i meant, even though he completely fakes a quote from the thread which contained the comments he made, my reply to those comments, and the discussion of the comments. why would he block me from orgnoting him a response which specifies which comments?

in my opinion it's because he wanted to claim he didn't know which ones i meant, even though they were painfully obvious which ones, he replied to them, and refused to edit them.

but that was just that particular one. today he had tons of em!
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cborgman said:

a million edits for your Scully like interpretation

youre a drama queen..and blocking your ass was a way to stop haviung to listen to u--especially first in the monring etc..

SensualMelody said:

Sensual--> <--Lammastide

When will this fuckin insanity stop...its not only assenine its getting boring

jonylawson said:

:LOL: You know what?.You/re right :LOL:
Blame it on the kid in me :LOL:

INSATIABLE said:

I dodn't want to leave that bad. And when i did i wanted peeps to know why. The ones i'm cool with. I don't have enuff orgnotes and memory to tell those peeps goodbye so i used this thread. I am sorry if i invaded your valuable space. :LOL:

:LOL: @this thread
And who voted this shit five stars. :LOL:
All my other masterpieces and this is my purple rain :LOL:.
Or are you guys trying to tell me that the thought of me being gone is worth five stars?










twinkle twinkle edit
[This message was edited Wed Jan 28 17:27:59 PST 2004 by CtheUncanny]

Cool thread, straight and to the point.

To everyone:

GET

OFF

THE

ORG

Natsume said:

Hey! I like that idea!

CtheUncanny said:

This is your Purple Rain Damn...we need a lighter emoticon!