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cborgman

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it's a shit day, but nothing can get my happiness down cause it's OSCAR NOMINATION DAY!

my cat is missing for 2 days, my one man show just got delayed because the director can't do it and i don't have time to find another director, and can't possibly direct myself, i tried nicely to resolve a situation, only to be ignored, but it's OSCAR NOMINATION DAY!

woot!

Best Picture
LORD OF THE RINGS: RETURN OF THE KING (New Line Cinema)
LOST IN TRANSLATION (Focus Features)
MASTER & COMMANDER (20th Century Fox)
MYSTIC RIVER (Warner Bros.)
SEABISCUIT (Universal Pictures)

likely to be LOTR, not so much for that film itself as for the massive undertaking of all three. but i would not be terribly suprised if LOST managed to win.


[b]Achievement in Directing

Fernando Meirelles for CITY OF GOD (Miramax)
Peter Jackson for THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING (New Line Cinema)
Peter Weir for MASTER & COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD (20th Century Fox)
Sofia Coppola for LOST IN TRANSLATION (Focus Features)
Clint Eastwood for MYSTIC RIVER (Warner Bros.)

Peter Jackson for the same reason above, although Sofia poses his biggest threat.


[b]Best Actor in a Leading Role

Johnny Depp in PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL (20th Century Fox)
Ben Kingsley in HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG (DreamWorks Pictures)
Jude Law in COLD MOUNTAIN (Miramax)
Bill Murray in LOST IN TRANSLATION (Focus Features)
Sean Penn in MYSTIC RIVER (Warner Bros.)

Here is probaby one of the few categories in which an upset even has room to happen. Bill Murray and Sean Penn both turned in dynamic performances, and both are long overdue for an oscar.


Best Supporting Actor
Alec Baldwin in THE COOLER (Lions Gate Films)
Benicio Del Toro in 21 GRAMS (Focus Features)
Djimon Hounsou in IN AMERICA (Focus Features)
Tim Robbins in MYSTIC RIVER (Warner Bros.)
Ken Watanabe in LAST SAMURAI (Warner Bros.)

Tim Robbins, easy win


Best Actress in a Leading Role
Keisha Castle-Hughes in WHALE RIDER (Newmarket Films )
Diane Keaton in SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE (Columbia Pictures )
Samantha Morton in IN AMERICA (Focus Features)
Charlize Theron in MONSTER (Newmarket Films )
Naomi Watts in 21 GRAMS (Focus Features)

charlize theron, easy win


Best Supporting Actress
Shohreh Aghdashloo in HOUSE OF SAND & FOG (DreamWorks Pictures)
Patricia Clarkson in PIECES OF APRIL (United Arists)
Marcia Gay Harden in MYSTIC RIVER (Warner Bros.)
Holly Hunter in THIRTEEN (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
Renee Zellwegger in COLD MOUNTAIN (Miramax)

Renee zellwegger, easy win


Best Original Screenplay
THE BARBARIAN INVASIONS (Miramax) by Denys Arcand
DIRTY PRETTY THINGS (Miramax) by Steven Knight
FINDING NEMO (Walt Disney Pixar) by Andrew Stanton, Bob Peterson, David Reynolds
IN AMERICA (Focus Features) Written by Jim Sheridan, Naomi Sheridan and Kirsten Sheridan
LOST IN TRANSLATION (Focus Features) by Sofia Coppola

lost in translation and in america are both searing, but nemo is a much loved piece. bit of a crap shoot, but probably will go to in america.

Best Adapted Screenplay
AMERICAN SPLENDOR by Robert Pulcini and Shari Springer Berman
CITY OF GOD by Braulio Mantovani
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING by Philippa Boyens, Fran Walsh, Peter Jackson
MYSTIC RIVER by Brian Helgeland
SEABISCUIT by Gary Ross

Seabiscuit, Mystic River, and LOTR all have a good shot. probably will be Seabiscuit.

Best Foreign-Language Film
THE BARBARIAN INVASIONS - Canada
EVIL - Sweden
THE TWILIGHT SAMURAI - Japan
TWIN SISTERS - The Netherlands
ZELARY - The Czech Republic

hard to say, i have not seen any of these yet, although i have heard good things about twin sisters.


Best Animated Feature Film
BROTHER BEAR - Aaron Blaise and Robert Walker
FINDING NEMO - Andrew Stanton
THE TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE - Sylvain Chomet

finding nemo, easy win


Achievement in Art Direction
GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING (Lions Gate Films)
LAST SAMURAI (Warner Bros.)
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING (New Line Cinema)
MASTER & COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD (20th Century Fox)
SEABISCUIT (Universal Pictures)

LOTR, easy win


Achievement in Cinematography
CITY OF GOD (Miramax)
COLD MOUNTAIN (Miramax)
GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING (Lions Gate Films)
MASTER & COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD (20th Century Fox)
SEABISCUIT (Universal Pictures)

tough call. probably master and commander


Achievement in Costume Design
GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING (Lions Gate Films)
LAST SAMURAI (Warner Bros.)
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING (New Line Cinema)
MASTER & COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD (20th Century Fox)
SEABISCUIT (Universal Pictures)

tough call. probably girl with a pearl earring


Best Documentary Feature
BALSEROS
CAPTURING THE FRIEDMANS
THE FOG OF WAR
MY ARCHITECT
THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND

capturing the friedmans, easy win


Best Film Editing
CITY OF GOD (Miramax)
COLD MOUNTAIN (Miramax)
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING (New Line Cinema)
MASTER & COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD (20th Century Fox)
SEABISCUIT (Universal Pictures)

tough call... no idea


Achievement in Makeup
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING (New Line Cinema)
MASTER & COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD (20th Century Fox)
PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL (20th Century Fox)

tough call, since almost all of LOTR and pirates effects that would have been make-up in the old days were CGI.


Best Original Score
BIG FISH
COLD MOUNTAIN (Miramax)
FINDING NEMO (Walt Disney Pixar)
HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG
THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING (New Line Cinema)

Danny Elfman deserves an oscar for all the incredible scores he has done and not won once, but big fish hardly seems the score to break his losing streak. it is highly likely LOTR's composer Howard Shore will win, but it is also possible that Michael Newman could win for nemo.


Original Song
"Into the West" - THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING
"A Kiss at the End of the Rainbow" - A MIGHTY WIND
"Scarlet Tide" - COLD MOUNTAIN
"The Triplets of Belleville"- THE TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE
"You Will Be My Ain True Love" - COLD MOUNTAIN

probably into the west

the rest are techical ones that i don't care about.
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Reply #1 posted 01/27/04 10:55am

rdhull

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cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days, my one man show just got delayed because the director can't do it and i don't have time to find another director, and can't possibly direct myself, i tried nicely to resolve a situation, only to be ignored,


its like being Tennesse Williams reincarnated lol
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Reply #2 posted 01/27/04 11:00am

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rdhull said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days, my one man show just got delayed because the director can't do it and i don't have time to find another director, and can't possibly direct myself, i tried nicely to resolve a situation, only to be ignored,


its like being Tennesse Williams reincarnated lol


you just can't pass up up any opportunity to post this kinda crap, can you?
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Reply #3 posted 01/27/04 11:01am

rdhull

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cborgman said:

rdhull said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days, my one man show just got delayed because the director can't do it and i don't have time to find another director, and can't possibly direct myself, i tried nicely to resolve a situation, only to be ignored,


its like being Tennesse Williams reincarnated lol


you just can't pass up up any opportunity to post this kinda crap, can you?

dude u know I love you..damn Chris disbelief

forget it ..lawd!
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Reply #4 posted 01/27/04 11:01am

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my cat is missing for 2 days


Dude, you better go find your cat!
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Reply #5 posted 01/27/04 11:01am

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2the9s said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days


Dude, you better go find your cat!

this is true--that should be the number one priority...I hope u find your cat Chris
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Reply #6 posted 01/27/04 11:02am

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sorry to hear about your cat, Chris... sad hope she'll be back soon!

(and no, i have nothing to contribute to the Oscar debate... sorry!)
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Reply #7 posted 01/27/04 11:02am

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2the9s said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days


Dude, you better go find your cat!


i think she is just off on an adventure, my roomie is more worried then i am. she's a highly active adventure type of cat. she never was the laying on pillows kind.
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Reply #8 posted 01/27/04 11:04am

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rdhull said:

cborgman said:

rdhull said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days, my one man show just got delayed because the director can't do it and i don't have time to find another director, and can't possibly direct myself, i tried nicely to resolve a situation, only to be ignored,


its like being Tennesse Williams reincarnated lol


you just can't pass up up any opportunity to post this kinda crap, can you?

dude u know I love you..damn Chris disbelief

forget it ..lawd!


right... that's why ya posted two different extremely offensive comments about my sexuality, ignored me both times i asked you to edit them out, and blocked me from orgnoting you and then posted that i was stalking you.
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Reply #9 posted 01/27/04 11:04am

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IAmTheTouch said:

sorry to hear about your cat, Chris... sad hope she'll be back soon!

(and no, i have nothing to contribute to the Oscar debate... sorry!)


me too. i'm sure she's just off on an adventure. only been 2 days.
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Reply #10 posted 01/27/04 11:04am

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cborgman said:

2the9s said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days


Dude, you better go find your cat!


i think she is just off on an adventure, my roomie is more worried then i am. she's a highly active adventure type of cat. she never was the laying on pillows kind.


So you don't feel like looking for pussy!?
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Reply #11 posted 01/27/04 11:05am

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LittlePill said:

cborgman said:

2the9s said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days


Dude, you better go find your cat!


i think she is just off on an adventure, my roomie is more worried then i am. she's a highly active adventure type of cat. she never was the laying on pillows kind.


So you don't feel like looking for pussy!?


giggle
no... she's always been allowed outside, so she knows her way around the neighborhood.
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Reply #12 posted 01/27/04 11:07am

LittlePill

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cborgman said:

LittlePill said:

cborgman said:

2the9s said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days


Dude, you better go find your cat!


i think she is just off on an adventure, my roomie is more worried then i am. she's a highly active adventure type of cat. she never was the laying on pillows kind.


So you don't feel like looking for pussy!?


giggle
no... she's always been allowed outside, so she knows her way around the neighborhood.



So your pussy's been around the neighborhood a few times?
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Reply #13 posted 01/27/04 11:08am

cborgman

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LittlePill said:

cborgman said:

LittlePill said:

cborgman said:

2the9s said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days


Dude, you better go find your cat!


i think she is just off on an adventure, my roomie is more worried then i am. she's a highly active adventure type of cat. she never was the laying on pillows kind.


So you don't feel like looking for pussy!?


giggle
no... she's always been allowed outside, so she knows her way around the neighborhood.



So your pussy's been around the neighborhood a few times?


lol

everyone in the neighbohood loves her... my little orange pussy.
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Reply #14 posted 01/27/04 11:10am

LittlePill

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cborgman said:

LittlePill said:

cborgman said:

LittlePill said:

cborgman said:

2the9s said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days


Dude, you better go find your cat!


i think she is just off on an adventure, my roomie is more worried then i am. she's a highly active adventure type of cat. she never was the laying on pillows kind.


So you don't feel like looking for pussy!?


giggle
no... she's always been allowed outside, so she knows her way around the neighborhood.



So your pussy's been around the neighborhood a few times?


lol

everyone in the neighbohood loves her... my little orange pussy.


Orange!!? omg hmmm Got any pictures? I'd love to see your pussy!
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Reply #15 posted 01/27/04 11:11am

rdhull

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cborgman said:

rdhull said:

cborgman said:

rdhull said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days, my one man show just got delayed because the director can't do it and i don't have time to find another director, and can't possibly direct myself, i tried nicely to resolve a situation, only to be ignored,


its like being Tennesse Williams reincarnated lol


you just can't pass up up any opportunity to post this kinda crap, can you?

dude u know I love you..damn Chris disbelief

forget it ..lawd!


right... that's why ya posted two different extremely offensive comments about my sexuality, ignored me both times i asked you to edit them out, and blocked me from orgnoting you and then posted that i was stalking you.


confuse

dude..u are a trip disbelief

what posts? I said u ws stalking me..I never mentioned u at all

TW lawd disbelief

lol
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Reply #16 posted 01/27/04 11:16am

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rdhull said:

cborgman said:

rdhull said:

cborgman said:

rdhull said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days, my one man show just got delayed because the director can't do it and i don't have time to find another director, and can't possibly direct myself, i tried nicely to resolve a situation, only to be ignored,


its like being Tennesse Williams reincarnated lol


you just can't pass up up any opportunity to post this kinda crap, can you?

dude u know I love you..damn Chris disbelief

forget it ..lawd!


right... that's why ya posted two different extremely offensive comments about my sexuality, ignored me both times i asked you to edit them out, and blocked me from orgnoting you and then posted that i was stalking you.


confuse

dude..u are a trip disbelief

what posts? I said u ws stalking me..I never mentioned u at all

TW lawd disbelief

lol


you know exactly which two. "inthenthitive" the old 'hey everybody- all gay men talk with lisps!' joke, and "can take a dick but not a joke" one.

you blocked me from replying to you in orgnotes after i asked you nicely a second time in orgnote to edit them out. then, immediatly posted about someone stalking you on the org that youm just had to block from orgnoting you in the "have you ever been stalked" forum.

i have asked twice now, on the thread which you did it in, and in private orgnote. i tried to keep this from becoming a big issue, from having to make everybody endure yet another of your big dramas, but you gotta do it your way.
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Reply #17 posted 01/27/04 11:16am

cborgman

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LittlePill said:

cborgman said:

LittlePill said:

cborgman said:

LittlePill said:

cborgman said:

2the9s said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days


Dude, you better go find your cat!


i think she is just off on an adventure, my roomie is more worried then i am. she's a highly active adventure type of cat. she never was the laying on pillows kind.


So you don't feel like looking for pussy!?


giggle
no... she's always been allowed outside, so she knows her way around the neighborhood.



So your pussy's been around the neighborhood a few times?


lol

everyone in the neighbohood loves her... my little orange pussy.


Orange!!? omg hmmm Got any pictures? I'd love to see your pussy!


giggle
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Reply #18 posted 01/27/04 11:21am

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cborgman said:

rdhull said:

cborgman said:

rdhull said:

cborgman said:

rdhull said:

cborgman said:

my cat is missing for 2 days, my one man show just got delayed because the director can't do it and i don't have time to find another director, and can't possibly direct myself, i tried nicely to resolve a situation, only to be ignored,


its like being Tennesse Williams reincarnated lol


you just can't pass up up any opportunity to post this kinda crap, can you?

dude u know I love you..damn Chris disbelief

forget it ..lawd!


right... that's why ya posted two different extremely offensive comments about my sexuality, ignored me both times i asked you to edit them out, and blocked me from orgnoting you and then posted that i was stalking you.


confuse

dude..u are a trip disbelief

what posts? I said u ws stalking me..I never mentioned u at all

TW lawd disbelief

lol


you know exactly which two. "inthenthitive" the old 'hey everybody- all gay men talk with lisps!' joke, and "can take a dick but not a joke" one.

you blocked me from replying to you in orgnotes after i asked you nicely a second time in orgnote to edit them out. then, immediatly posted about someone stalking you on the org that youm just had to block from orgnoting you in the "have you ever been stalked" forum.

i have asked twice now, on the thread which you did it in, and in private orgnote. i tried to keep this from becoming a big issue, from having to make everybody endure yet another of your big dramas, but you gotta do it your way.


rolleyes
You are excellent at your profession
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Reply #19 posted 01/27/04 11:23am

endorphin74

sorry to be on topic, but I have to say I'm happy that In America got multiple nominations. I thought this was a FABULOUS movie with powerful performances all around. I think it's best shot for winning is for writing, but I hope the acting nominations cause more people to check it out.

As for Best Supporting Actress, I know Renee has the momentum right now, but I hope that doesn't blind voters to the amazing performance Holly Hunter turned in for Thirteen...
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Reply #20 posted 01/27/04 11:24am

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you know exactly which two. "inthenthitive" the old 'hey everybody- all gay men talk with lisps!' joke, and "can take a dick but not a joke" one.

you blocked me from replying to you in orgnotes after i asked you nicely a second time in orgnote to edit them out. then, immediatly posted about someone stalking you on the org that youm just had to block from orgnoting you in the "have you ever been stalked" forum.

i have asked twice now, on the thread which you did it in, and in private orgnote. i tried to keep this from becoming a big issue, from having to make everybody endure yet another of your big dramas, but you gotta do it your way.

I'm amazed at how sensitive you are when it touches home.
The n***r remark was no big deal for you to say.
Go back and think the over. Why does this bother you and the other remark didn't?
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Reply #21 posted 01/27/04 11:35am

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CtheUncanny said:

cborgman said:



you know exactly which two. "inthenthitive" the old 'hey everybody- all gay men talk with lisps!' joke, and "can take a dick but not a joke" one.

you blocked me from replying to you in orgnotes after i asked you nicely a second time in orgnote to edit them out. then, immediatly posted about someone stalking you on the org that youm just had to block from orgnoting you in the "have you ever been stalked" forum.

i have asked twice now, on the thread which you did it in, and in private orgnote. i tried to keep this from becoming a big issue, from having to make everybody endure yet another of your big dramas, but you gotta do it your way.

I'm amazed at how sensitive you are when it touches home.
The n***r remark was no big deal for you to say.
Go back and think the over. Why does this bother you and the other remark didn't?


number one, because i didn't ever call anyone the N word, i merely said it as a comparrison to the F word, and was not in any way condoning the use of either word.

number two, in no way shape or form did i direct the N word towards anyone.

number three, had anyone orgnoted me and said "hey i wish you wouldn't use the word at all, even when using it in manner in which you are saying 'people shouldn't say it" i would hae taken it down. as it is, i apologized to you for using the word at all, even in the context of citing an example.

he made it a direct personal statement, and thinking that maybe he didn't mean it to sound as it did, i asked nicely for him to edit it. he refused and made another equally offensive comment instead, making it even more deliberate. so i orgnoted him and asked him again nicely to remove both comments. he sent me back an orgnote saying essentially no, and then blocked me from orgnoting him.

i have been more than fair about this. it's been going on for 3 freaking weeks now, and i have ignored a lot of it, and he has gotten repeated warnings, including one from ben himself. if he gets deactivated or banned it ain't my fault.
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Reply #22 posted 01/27/04 11:40am

CtheUncanny

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number one, because i didn't ever call anyone the N word, i merely said it as a comparrison to the F word, and was not in any way condoning the use of either word.

rolleyes

number two, in no way shape or form did i direct the N word towards anyone.

Does that matter? I guess you can just say anything in here freely as long as you don't direct it at someone, RIGHT?

number three, had anyone orgnoted me and said "hey i wish you wouldn't use the word at all, even when using it in manner in which you are saying 'people shouldn't say it" i would hae taken it down. as it is, i apologized to you for using the word at all, even in the context of citing an example.

The sad thing is you think somebody has to tell you not to use it. Like you don't know it's wrong to say

he made it a direct personal statement, and thinking that maybe he didn't mean it to sound as it did, i asked nicely for him to edit he. he refused and made another equally offensive comment instead, amking it even more deliberate. so i orgnoted him and asked him again nicely to remove both comments. he sent me back an orgnote saying essentially no, and then blocked me from orgnoting him.

You also said something to the effect that you knew RD was playing and didn't take offense to it. Why the change now?

i have been more than fair about this.

uh huh. OK
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Reply #23 posted 01/27/04 11:40am

Anxiety

Seabiscuit?

Johnny Depp for that pirate movie??!


Not for nothin - I love me my Johnny Depp - but DANG. Last year musta really been a pooper for movies.
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Reply #24 posted 01/27/04 11:41am

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cborgman said:



number one, because i didn't ever call anyone the N word, i merely said it as a comparrison to the F word, and was not in any way condoning the use of either word.

rolleyes

number two, in no way shape or form did i direct the N word towards anyone.

Does that matter? I guess you can just say anything in here freely as long as you don't direct it at someone, RIGHT?

number three, had anyone orgnoted me and said "hey i wish you wouldn't use the word at all, even when using it in manner in which you are saying 'people shouldn't say it" i would hae taken it down. as it is, i apologized to you for using the word at all, even in the context of citing an example.

The sad thing is you think somebody has to tell you not to use it. Like you don't know it's wrong to say

he made it a direct personal statement, and thinking that maybe he didn't mean it to sound as it did, i asked nicely for him to edit he. he refused and made another equally offensive comment instead, amking it even more deliberate. so i orgnoted him and asked him again nicely to remove both comments. he sent me back an orgnote saying essentially no, and then blocked me from orgnoting him.

You also said something to the effect that you knew RD was playing and didn't take offense to it. Why the change now?

i have been more than fair about this.

uh huh. OK
:LOL:


well, i didn't see you getting upset when rd said the N word in that thread yesterday in the same context. why should he be able to say it as a reference and not me?
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Reply #25 posted 01/27/04 11:43am

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cborgman said:[quote]

CtheUncanny said:

cborgman said:



number one, because i didn't ever call anyone the N word, i merely said it as a comparrison to the F word, and was not in any way condoning the use of either word.

rolleyes

number two, in no way shape or form did i direct the N word towards anyone.

Does that matter? I guess you can just say anything in here freely as long as you don't direct it at someone, RIGHT?

number three, had anyone orgnoted me and said "hey i wish you wouldn't use the word at all, even when using it in manner in which you are saying 'people shouldn't say it" i would hae taken it down. as it is, i apologized to you for using the word at all, even in the context of citing an example.

The sad thing is you think somebody has to tell you not to use it. Like you don't know it's wrong to say

he made it a direct personal statement, and thinking that maybe he didn't mean it to sound as it did, i asked nicely for him to edit he. he refused and made another equally offensive comment instead, amking it even more deliberate. so i orgnoted him and asked him again nicely to remove both comments. he sent me back an orgnote saying essentially no, and then blocked me from orgnoting him.

You also said something to the effect that you knew RD was playing and didn't take offense to it. Why the change now?

i have been more than fair about this.

uh huh. OK
:LOL:


well, i didn't see you getting upset when rd said the N word in that thread yesterday in the same context. why should he be able to say it as a reference and not me?


You are avoiding my question. You said an offensive word and now take offense(even though you said it was cool) at something you feel mocks you. It's like you are trying to get the best of both worlds. And the reason you didn't see me getting upset was that the mods snipped and banned me before i could do anything.
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Reply #26 posted 01/27/04 11:53am

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CtheUncanny said:[quote]

cborgman said:

CtheUncanny said:

cborgman said:



number one, because i didn't ever call anyone the N word, i merely said it as a comparrison to the F word, and was not in any way condoning the use of either word.

rolleyes

number two, in no way shape or form did i direct the N word towards anyone.

Does that matter? I guess you can just say anything in here freely as long as you don't direct it at someone, RIGHT?

number three, had anyone orgnoted me and said "hey i wish you wouldn't use the word at all, even when using it in manner in which you are saying 'people shouldn't say it" i would hae taken it down. as it is, i apologized to you for using the word at all, even in the context of citing an example.

The sad thing is you think somebody has to tell you not to use it. Like you don't know it's wrong to say

he made it a direct personal statement, and thinking that maybe he didn't mean it to sound as it did, i asked nicely for him to edit he. he refused and made another equally offensive comment instead, amking it even more deliberate. so i orgnoted him and asked him again nicely to remove both comments. he sent me back an orgnote saying essentially no, and then blocked me from orgnoting him.

You also said something to the effect that you knew RD was playing and didn't take offense to it. Why the change now?

i have been more than fair about this.

uh huh. OK
:LOL:


well, i didn't see you getting upset when rd said the N word in that thread yesterday in the same context. why should he be able to say it as a reference and not me?


You are avoiding my question. You said an offensive word and now take offense(even though you said it was cool) at something you feel mocks you. It's like you are trying to get the best of both worlds. And the reason you didn't see me getting upset was that the mods snipped and banned me before i could do anything.



okay, let me answer your question again, same as i did in your thread when you came back. in the orginal post is said: (paraphrased since the thread was deleted)

why is it that it's fine to call someone fa**ot and nobody blinks an eye, but if anyone ever called someone ni**er, people go apeshit. how is that okay?

now, perhaps i should have starred both words as i did above, but i didn't expect that a couple of people would see the word, not even read the rest of the sentence and wig out. i apologize for that AGAIN. i am not then or now nor have i ever nor will i ever condone calling someone the N word, the F word, or any of the numerous other racially or sexually based explicitive (the S word for hispanics, the Q word for gay people, etc)

now let me point out that yesterday in your thread that we discussed this in, rd typed out the N word, no stars or nothing, and you didn't say a thing about it. how is that any different?
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Reply #27 posted 01/27/04 12:05pm

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cborgman said:[quote]

CtheUncanny said:

cborgman said:

CtheUncanny said:

cborgman said:



number one, because i didn't ever call anyone the N word, i merely said it as a comparrison to the F word, and was not in any way condoning the use of either word.

rolleyes

number two, in no way shape or form did i direct the N word towards anyone.

Does that matter? I guess you can just say anything in here freely as long as you don't direct it at someone, RIGHT?

number three, had anyone orgnoted me and said "hey i wish you wouldn't use the word at all, even when using it in manner in which you are saying 'people shouldn't say it" i would hae taken it down. as it is, i apologized to you for using the word at all, even in the context of citing an example.

The sad thing is you think somebody has to tell you not to use it. Like you don't know it's wrong to say

he made it a direct personal statement, and thinking that maybe he didn't mean it to sound as it did, i asked nicely for him to edit he. he refused and made another equally offensive comment instead, amking it even more deliberate. so i orgnoted him and asked him again nicely to remove both comments. he sent me back an orgnote saying essentially no, and then blocked me from orgnoting him.

You also said something to the effect that you knew RD was playing and didn't take offense to it. Why the change now?

i have been more than fair about this.

uh huh. OK
:LOL:


well, i didn't see you getting upset when rd said the N word in that thread yesterday in the same context. why should he be able to say it as a reference and not me?


You are avoiding my question. You said an offensive word and now take offense(even though you said it was cool) at something you feel mocks you. It's like you are trying to get the best of both worlds. And the reason you didn't see me getting upset was that the mods snipped and banned me before i could do anything.



okay, let me answer your question again, same as i did in your thread when you came back. in the orginal post is said: (paraphrased since the thread was deleted)

why is it that it's fine to call someone fa**ot and nobody blinks an eye, but if anyone ever called someone ni**er, people go apeshit. how is that okay?

now, perhaps i should have starred both words as i did above, but i didn't expect that a couple of people would see the word, not even read the rest of the sentence and wig out. i apologize for that AGAIN. i am not then or now nor have i ever nor will i ever condone calling someone the N word, the F word, or any of the numerous other racially or sexually based explicitive (the S word for hispanics, the Q word for gay people, etc)

now let me point out that yesterday in your thread that we discussed this in, rd typed out the N word, no stars or nothing, and you didn't say a thing about it. how is that any different?
[This message was edited Tue Jan 27 11:54:39 PST 2004 by cborgman]

You are clueless on this aren't you? You might need to understand black people better before making remarks about them and being surprised at the responce. When said among black(by black people) people it can be said with affection as well as showing a common ground. The same way gay people may call each other a name affectionatly but get offended if a non gay person made the same remark. You could have made the same point without even going there. You did so because sitting comfortably behind a computer you can ask all the questions that pop in your head without reprecussion. Try to wear someone elses shoes when you speak about them OK? Or at least know what you are taling about. You are coming across alot like Chemmie.
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Reply #28 posted 01/27/04 12:18pm

cborgman

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CtheUncanny said:[quote]

cborgman said:

CtheUncanny said:

cborgman said:

CtheUncanny said:

cborgman said:



number one, because i didn't ever call anyone the N word, i merely said it as a comparrison to the F word, and was not in any way condoning the use of either word.

rolleyes

number two, in no way shape or form did i direct the N word towards anyone.

Does that matter? I guess you can just say anything in here freely as long as you don't direct it at someone, RIGHT?

number three, had anyone orgnoted me and said "hey i wish you wouldn't use the word at all, even when using it in manner in which you are saying 'people shouldn't say it" i would hae taken it down. as it is, i apologized to you for using the word at all, even in the context of citing an example.

The sad thing is you think somebody has to tell you not to use it. Like you don't know it's wrong to say

he made it a direct personal statement, and thinking that maybe he didn't mean it to sound as it did, i asked nicely for him to edit he. he refused and made another equally offensive comment instead, amking it even more deliberate. so i orgnoted him and asked him again nicely to remove both comments. he sent me back an orgnote saying essentially no, and then blocked me from orgnoting him.

You also said something to the effect that you knew RD was playing and didn't take offense to it. Why the change now?

i have been more than fair about this.

uh huh. OK
:LOL:


well, i didn't see you getting upset when rd said the N word in that thread yesterday in the same context. why should he be able to say it as a reference and not me?


You are avoiding my question. You said an offensive word and now take offense(even though you said it was cool) at something you feel mocks you. It's like you are trying to get the best of both worlds. And the reason you didn't see me getting upset was that the mods snipped and banned me before i could do anything.



okay, let me answer your question again, same as i did in your thread when you came back. in the orginal post is said: (paraphrased since the thread was deleted)

why is it that it's fine to call someone fa**ot and nobody blinks an eye, but if anyone ever called someone ni**er, people go apeshit. how is that okay?

now, perhaps i should have starred both words as i did above, but i didn't expect that a couple of people would see the word, not even read the rest of the sentence and wig out. i apologize for that AGAIN. i am not then or now nor have i ever nor will i ever condone calling someone the N word, the F word, or any of the numerous other racially or sexually based explicitive (the S word for hispanics, the Q word for gay people, etc)

now let me point out that yesterday in your thread that we discussed this in, rd typed out the N word, no stars or nothing, and you didn't say a thing about it. how is that any different?
[This message was edited Tue Jan 27 11:54:39 PST 2004 by cborgman]

You are clueless on this aren't you? You might need to understand black people better before making remarks about them and being surprised at the responce. When said among black(by black people) people it can be said with affection as well as showing a common ground. The same way gay people may call each other a name affectionatly but get offended if a non gay person made the same remark. You could have made the same point without even going there. You did so because sitting comfortably behind a computer you can ask all the questions that pop in your head without reprecussion. Try to wear someone elses shoes when you speak about them OK? Or at least know what you are taling about. You are coming across alot like Chemmie.


um, i never once made ANY remarks regarding black people, nor would i. we are all people, the same people with different backgrounds and lifestyles, period.

and also, don't be so quick to make generalizations about gay people. i, for one, HATE being called those little things that a minority of gay people call one another (miss thang, sister, mama, girl, fa**ot, queer, etc) and anyone regardless of their sexual preference or gender gets the same firm but polite appeal to not ever address me as such again.

i don't know how many times i need to apologize for not realizing it would set off such a huge reaction among a few people. i have already apologized to you several times.

but the fact is still this: i have asked rd twice now in a very calm and polite manner to edit the comments out, and he has refused several times. for me, personally as with several other gay orgers, i am sure, a person taking on the old lisping wrist flipping poodle carrying cross dressing hairdresser stereotype to make fun of me is EXTREMELY offensive. i asked nicely repeatedly, he not only refused, but made yet another similar comment and has continued to do such things. if he gets deactivated or another warning, it's his own fault.
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Reply #29 posted 01/27/04 12:21pm

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truthfully i dont know what is going on between you and my
man C and RD

but you seem like cool peoples and i am sorry about your cat man

hug i hope it comes home safely for you
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