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Reply #30 posted 01/20/04 10:10am

Byron

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Byron said:

How well do you feel you're in tune with the universe (or life or God)??...

Do you believe there are no such things as coincidences?? Do you leave yourself open to be communicated with in a variety of ways by forces larger than yourself??...If so, do you feel the "universe" is trying to guide you or help you in some way...and if so, do you still listen even if what you're "hearing" doesn't validate what you want to hear?? Or, do you filter out those "communications" from outside yourself that don't validate how you're living your life?

Me?...I have felt "in tune" with Life/The Universe/God quite deeply for a few months now...I've purposefully have made myself "listen" constantly throughout each day as to what I'm being told, and most importantly, why...Supa called it "confirmations"...I like that term (although that somewhat indicates only those things which back up our already-formed opinions on ourselves and our lives)...How has it helped? Mainly, it gives me amazing peace and rest, because my immediate instinctual reaction to anything "negative" is to say "This happened for a reason"...so much more empowering and spiritual than saying "Why is this happening to me??"...

So, are you "in tune" with Life??...


So, in a nutshell, are you meaning do I listen to the voices in my head? confuse

No...the voices outside your head that only you can hear... wink
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Reply #31 posted 01/20/04 10:10am

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Isn't there a psychological term that describes these coincidences, called Synchronicity or something? Which describes events that are so much of a coincidence as to be too coincidental and hence synchronous.
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Reply #32 posted 01/20/04 10:12am

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Byron said:

Cloudbuster said:

So, in a nutshell, are you meaning do I listen to the voices in my head? confuse


No...the voices outside your head that only you can hear... wink


You've lost me. confused
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Reply #33 posted 01/20/04 10:13am

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PREDOMINANT said:

Isn't there a psychological term that describes these coincidences, called Synchronicity or something? Which describes events that are so much of a coincidence as to be too coincidental and hence synchronous.

I always felt synchronicity was more a series of supposedly random occurrances which are actually connected somehow...as where "coincidences" (at least to me) are occurrances which are not random at all, and have a very obvious connection...but did not occur for any particular reason.

Semantics, I know..lol wink



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Reply #34 posted 01/20/04 10:16am

Byron

Cloudbuster said:

Byron said:

Cloudbuster said:

So, in a nutshell, are you meaning do I listen to the voices in my head? confuse


No...the voices outside your head that only you can hear... wink


You've lost me. confused

"Voices" outside your head are "generated" from a source outside of you (Life/Universe/God)..."Voices" within your head are generated from inner emotions (guilt, fear, love, insecurity, etc...)
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Reply #35 posted 01/20/04 10:18am

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Byron said:

Cloudbuster said:

Byron said:

Cloudbuster said:

So, in a nutshell, are you meaning do I listen to the voices in my head? confuse


No...the voices outside your head that only you can hear... wink


You've lost me. confused

"Voices" outside your head are "generated" from a source outside of you (Life/Universe/God)..."Voices" within your head are generated from inner emotions (guilt, fear, love, insecurity, etc...)


Well, I guess I'll go with "life", then. As I don't believe in God. wink
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Reply #36 posted 01/20/04 10:38am

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I think there is a lot of truth to the fact that most people are so ingrained in the daily grind that they become oblivious to these connections. Some people are just more receptive I suppose. I would think that anybody is able to see or hear these connections if they just were open to receiving them and realizing that they are connections and not just coincidence.
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Reply #37 posted 01/20/04 11:10am

Byron

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I think there is a lot of truth to the fact that most people are so ingrained in the daily grind that they become oblivious to these connections. Some people are just more receptive I suppose. I would think that anybody is able to see or hear these connections if they just were open to receiving them and realizing that they are connections and not just coincidence.

Very true... nod

Actually...what you just said reminds me of something I experienced not too long ago. I was walking down the main street of my neighborhood, and noticed how the snowcapped mountains in the distance were looking amazing, with thick streaks of clouds hovering around them--and only them--against an otherwise clear, beautiful blue sky. I literally couldn't take my eyes off what I was seeing, and kept turning my head to look/appreciate as I walked down the street...I even stopped a few times, and just stared...it was so majestic (wish I had my camera at the time)...

Then, I looked around at everyone else walking on the street or driving by or entering and leaving stores and shops...and not a single other soul was looking at those gorgeous snow-tipped mountain peaks, at those graceful clouds framing the entire scene...and I just thought how can you NOT see what I'm looking at?? How can you not stop and notice, not stop and appreciate this??...but as you said, they're so "ingrained in the daily grind" that even something that obviously beautiful just barely registers as they go about their days. So it's understandable when the more subtle aspects of life get missed completely...



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Reply #38 posted 01/20/04 11:31am

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Byron, you been re-reading James Redfield's the celestine prophecy again? wink

Seems to me one can not be out of tune with the universe, as you're part of it and vice versa. Feelings of uneasiness (sp?) may be accounted to the unability to evolve with it. I do think one is able to influence his/her niche to the effect you feel @home again. Most peeps don't even bother.

As to your snow-capped mountains: I daily notice stuff people just fail to recognise as beautiful, out-of-the-ordinary etc.

Example: In the subway en-route to work i was looking at a puddle of water on the floor, reacting to the braking and accelerating of the train. I saw a guy, while talking to his friend, scraping his shoe over the floor in such a way to prevent the water 'flowing'. Completely unaware of what he was doing I just was amused he'd interrupted my semi-scientific evaluation of this simple piece of physics. Sometimes these seemingly small events can lead to trains of thoughts in my mind...


I'm being incoherent, i know, stuff on my mind wink
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Reply #39 posted 01/20/04 11:37am

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AlfofMelmak said:

Byron, you been re-reading James Redfield's the celestine prophecy again? wink

Seems to me one can not be out of tune with the universe, as you're part of it and vice versa. Feelings of uneasiness (sp?) may be accounted to the unability to evolve with it. I do think one is able to influence his/her niche to the effect you feel @home again. Most peeps don't even bother.

As to your snow-capped mountains: I daily notice stuff people just fail to recognise as beautiful, out-of-the-ordinary etc.

Example: In the subway en-route to work i was looking at a puddle of water on the floor, reacting to the braking and accelerating of the train. I saw a guy, while talking to his friend, scraping his shoe over the floor in such a way to prevent the water 'flowing'. Completely unaware of what he was doing I just was amused he'd interrupted my semi-scientific evaluation of this simple piece of physics. Sometimes these seemingly small events can lead to trains of thoughts in my mind...


I'm being incoherent, i know, stuff on my mind wink


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Reply #40 posted 01/20/04 11:44am

Byron

AlfofMelmak said:

Byron, you been re-reading James Redfield's the celestine prophecy again? wink

LoL...that book didn't do it for me...Conversations With God, however, did... nod

Seems to me one can not be out of tune with the universe, as you're part of it and vice versa. Feelings of uneasiness (sp?) may be accounted to the unability to evolve with it. I do think one is able to influence his/her niche to the effect you feel @home again. Most peeps don't even bother.

I define "In Tune" as "Understand" or "Comprehend"...but you're right, you can be (and are) "in tune" with the universe, yet not know you are (or worse, not think you even can be..)...Believing/knowing that I am, is what keeps me from turning away from aspects of life that can be difficult (almost impossibly so at times)...and helps me see literally everything in a positive light.

As to your snow-capped mountains: I daily notice stuff people just fail to recognise as beautiful, out-of-the-ordinary etc.

Example: In the subway en-route to work i was looking at a puddle of water on the floor, reacting to the braking and accelerating of the train. I saw a guy, while talking to his friend, scraping his shoe over the floor in such a way to prevent the water 'flowing'. Completely unaware of what he was doing I just was amused he'd interrupted my semi-scientific evaluation of this simple piece of physics. Sometimes these seemingly small events can lead to trains of thoughts in my mind...


I'm being incoherent, i know, stuff on my mind wink

LoL..no, I understood... nod I've done the same before, and often...noticing the things that seemingly everyone else is oblivious to, and finding value in it. Hell, I've even photographed it... rose



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Reply #41 posted 01/20/04 11:53am

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I think there is a lot of truth to the fact that most people are so ingrained in the daily grind that they become oblivious to these connections. Some people are just more receptive I suppose. I would think that anybody is able to see or hear these connections if they just were open to receiving them and realizing that they are connections and not just coincidence.


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So true, darling!
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Reply #42 posted 01/20/04 12:04pm

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Byron said:

.. Hell, I've even photographed it... rose


You are part of rare bunch of people i know who photograph for the purpose of capturing a still of life not just to remember the scene, but to attach (sometimes unexplainable) more meaning to the photo.

In tune indeed.
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Reply #43 posted 01/20/04 12:06pm

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sag10_the_most_precious said:


Hi Alf! hug



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Reply #44 posted 01/20/04 12:15pm

Byron

AlfofMelmak said:

Byron said:

.. Hell, I've even photographed it... rose


You are part of rare bunch of people i know who photograph for the purpose of capturing a still of life not just to remember the scene, but to attach (sometimes unexplainable) more meaning to the photo.

In tune indeed.

I've had people make fun of some of the things I photograph...to the point I stopped showing and sharing them with others...
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Reply #45 posted 01/20/04 12:18pm

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Byron said:

AlfofMelmak said:

Byron said:

.. Hell, I've even photographed it... rose


You are part of rare bunch of people i know who photograph for the purpose of capturing a still of life not just to remember the scene, but to attach (sometimes unexplainable) more meaning to the photo.

In tune indeed.

I've had people make fun of some of the things I photograph...to the point I stopped showing and sharing them with others...


They're mistaken nod
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Reply #46 posted 01/20/04 12:25pm

Byron

AlfofMelmak said:

Byron said:

AlfofMelmak said:

Byron said:

.. Hell, I've even photographed it... rose


You are part of rare bunch of people i know who photograph for the purpose of capturing a still of life not just to remember the scene, but to attach (sometimes unexplainable) more meaning to the photo.

In tune indeed.

I've had people make fun of some of the things I photograph...to the point I stopped showing and sharing them with others...


They're mistaken nod

I'll have to share a few of them sometimes... nod (I owe Whateva more than a few photos already...)
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Reply #47 posted 01/20/04 1:12pm

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This was very cool...

I have a neckace that is a cross. It's ceramic and it's painted. The center of the cross is painted black with a red heart on it. Each point of the cross is painted a different color and each point contains one of the following words:

Top point: Love
Left point: Joy
Right point: Grace
Bottom point: Hope

The chain I have it on only allows the cross to face one way. If you put it on the wrong way, it can't twist around to face the right way. so I had the cross haning on my rearview mirror and I was at a red light and I noticed that the cross was facing me. I always put it facing the traffic as sort of a way of projecting that positivity into my path on the street.

So I noticed that it was facing me and I was confused as to how it twisted itself to face me and then I read the words...Love, Joy, Grace & Hope. Those words sunk in. Right now I'm having problems with a relationship I hold dear and as soon as I recognized the meaning of those words and how they pertain to my situation, the cross simply turned itself back around to face traffic. All while I was stopped at the red light...
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Reply #48 posted 01/20/04 1:49pm

Byron

Mine:

Back in August, I started journaling my thoughts on legal pad paper...was going thru quite a bit emotionally, and my neice suggested just having my own "Conversation With God" and writing down anything and everything that comes to mind from within...so I did, wrote like 20 pages of thoughts, questions and answers...and it did help some. I ended up putting the sheets of paper up on the shelf in the closet of my bedroom, preferring to keep them more or less out of sight (even though I live alone..)...probably a month or so later (late September/early October), during one rather sad afternoon, I ended up taking all those sheets off my closet shelf, tearing them into pieces, and throwing them away...for whatever reason I just did not want them around anymore...

Well, one day a little over a month ago, I found myself feeling rather lost on a wide variety of emotional levels for a wide variety of reasons...it was my day off and I really didn't feel like even leaving the apartment that day...so I just started walking around the apartment, thinking to myself, trying to recenter myself spiritually...and for whatever reason I went over to my bedroom closet, and started taking some of the clothes off the closet shelf...I think I felt it looked messy...I dunno...something just made me want to start taking the clothes down. And when I reached up to do so, I felt a piece of paper beneath my hand (the shelf is above eyesight)...I pulled the paper down, and saw that it was the very last sheet of paper I had written four months before when I started journaling all my thoughts, questions and "answers" down as they came to my mind.

I stood there, and read what I had written all those months before...and every single word on that page addressed everything that I had been contemplating and trying to find answers to on that day...after reading what I had written almost 4 months before, I felt like I had all the answers I had been seeking that afternoon...I smiled, and said "Ok, I get it...", and put that one single piece of paper back up on the shelf.

How I somehow managed to miss that particular page when throwing out all the other ones two months earlier, I don't know...and the fact that this one page so perfectly addressed the things I had been dealing with could not be chalked up to "coincidence"...it truly felt as if I had written something in the past, for me to find and help guide me in the future...and truthfully, I've been amazigly more at peace since finding it and reading it...
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Reply #49 posted 01/20/04 2:38pm

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I think about my Destiny.

Then I think, what do I need to do, in order to realise, to live, my destiny?

I'll explain my destiny.

"I live in a home that is eco-friendly, on the edge of, or in a wood, in New Zealand. I grow all my own food and I am totally self sufficient. Externally, I feel I am living respectfully on the planet. This, therefore, does not create feelings of guilt, that I have to some extent now.

Internally, I live with my inner divinity - every day feeling alive and full of love, full of divinity."

I know that I have things to do in order to reach my destiny. I have found that when things do not go my way, the best thing to do, is to surrender to the event (accept) and to trust the process of life. I am not sure if things happen for a reason outside of myself, if that is the case, I find that very hard to swallow, as for some in this life, the things they have to endure... disbelief Rather, I feel that I have a destiny to live out. I am following the line of my destiny. However, if something happens outside of my control, then I may be knocked off my own line. For me, it's not about this or that, it is simply about getting back on the line... That is the tricky part. Acceptance is hard to do, sometimes.
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Reply #50 posted 01/20/04 2:43pm

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Therapy said:

I think about my Destiny.

Then I think, what do I need to do, in order to realise, to live, my destiny?

I'll explain my destiny.

"I live in a home that is eco-friendly, on the edge of, or in a wood, in New Zealand. I grow all my own food and I am totally self sufficient. Externally, I feel I am living respectfully on the planet. This, therefore, does not create feelings of guilt, that I have to some extent now.

Internally, I live with my inner divinity - every day feeling alive and full of love, full of divinity."

I know that I have things to do in order to reach my destiny. I have found that when things do not go my way, the best thing to do, is to surrender to the event (accept) and to trust the process of life. I am not sure if things happen for a reason outside of myself, if that is the case, I find that very hard to swallow, as for some in this life, the things they have to endure... disbelief Rather, I feel that I have a destiny to live out. I am following the line of my destiny. However, if something happens outside of my control, then I may be knocked off my own line. For me, it's not about this or that, it is simply about getting back on the line... That is the tricky part. Acceptance is hard to do, sometimes.

Do you feel that horrible things people endure having no reason is a better "plan of life" than those same horrible things having a reason for existing...if for no other reason than serving an eventual collective good?? I ask because this came up on a thread about a year ago...mainly, how to deal with the horrors that exist in the world...and you touched on it in your post. *smile*

By the way...very good answer...nod Thank you... hug
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Reply #51 posted 01/20/04 2:51pm

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Byron said:

Mine:

Back in August, I started journaling my thoughts on legal pad paper...was going thru quite a bit emotionally, and my neice suggested just having my own "Conversation With God" and writing down anything and everything that comes to mind from within...so I did, wrote like 20 pages of thoughts, questions and answers...and it did help some. I ended up putting the sheets of paper up on the shelf in the closet of my bedroom, preferring to keep them more or less out of sight (even though I live alone..)...probably a month or so later (late September/early October), during one rather sad afternoon, I ended up taking all those sheets off my closet shelf, tearing them into pieces, and throwing them away...for whatever reason I just did not want them around anymore...

Well, one day a little over a month ago, I found myself feeling rather lost on a wide variety of emotional levels for a wide variety of reasons...it was my day off and I really didn't feel like even leaving the apartment that day...so I just started walking around the apartment, thinking to myself, trying to recenter myself spiritually...and for whatever reason I went over to my bedroom closet, and started taking some of the clothes off the closet shelf...I think I felt it looked messy...I dunno...something just made me want to start taking the clothes down. And when I reached up to do so, I felt a piece of paper beneath my hand (the shelf is above eyesight)...I pulled the paper down, and saw that it was the very last sheet of paper I had written four months before when I started journaling all my thoughts, questions and "answers" down as they came to my mind.

I stood there, and read what I had written all those months before...and every single word on that page addressed everything that I had been contemplating and trying to find answers to on that day...after reading what I had written almost 4 months before, I felt like I had all the answers I had been seeking that afternoon...I smiled, and said "Ok, I get it...", and put that one single piece of paper back up on the shelf.

How I somehow managed to miss that particular page when throwing out all the other ones two months earlier, I don't know...and the fact that this one page so perfectly addressed the things I had been dealing with could not be chalked up to "coincidence"...it truly felt as if I had written something in the past, for me to find and help guide me in the future...and truthfully, I've been amazigly more at peace since finding it and reading it...


It is rather interesting in life how one piece of paper can appear right when you need it to...

I started journaling at 25, and recently burned them... I found that most of what I journaled was passee.. But as I burned them I buried a piece of the person that I was.. It was very emotional.. And as I let go of that person, I let out 25 white balloons...
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Reply #52 posted 01/20/04 3:09pm

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Some people wacky

Although it's nice most seem to take some time to reflect upon things. And it's nice to b at peace with u'rself or to have a certain goal. But 'beeing in tune with the universe' or 'fullfilling ur destiny' confuse confuse
It always puzzles me when people feel the need to bring external forces in2 the mix to xplain basic psychological processes.
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Reply #53 posted 01/20/04 3:11pm

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SpcMs said:

Some people wacky

Although it's nice most seem to take some time to reflect upon things. And it's nice to b at peace with u'rself or to have a certain goal. But 'beeing in tune with the universe' or 'fullfilling ur destiny' confuse confuse
It always puzzles me when people feel the need to bring external forces in2 the mix to xplain basic psychological processes.

I don't think Supa's necklace experience or my finding the sheet of paper fall under the catagory of "psychological processes"...lol...boiled down, it's more a belief of whether or not you believe in coincidences.
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Reply #54 posted 01/20/04 3:15pm

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Very good answer eh?! I expect a 10/10 wink

I see your point. I dunno. I guess I feel reluctant to take up the 'things happen for a reason' batton. Hang on just a moment - I want to write something that I journelled late last year about this very topic. Maybe a moment like you had Byron is about to happen!

"On sex and the city, a women said just now 'Maybe ppl say that everything happens for a reason for the pain to not be as bad'. Maybe one can focus on the reason rather than the pain. Or maybe one can feel the pain and understand the reason. In addition to that, maybe that pain is the symptom of the reason - therefore knowing the reason is valuable, as it can be freeing to help the symptom to not be repeated by treating the cause. Poem about that...

Reason for everything
The reason is the root
The pain is the symptom
Symptoms, need relief.
Any pain, needs relieving.
Needs fixing. Needs solving.
Needs to be healed,
To health, to evolution.
There really is heaven and hell
Entropy to hell and
Evolution to heaven.

In other words, there is the natural healthy core. This natural healthy core evolves and grows. Pain and suffering a symptom of something not aligned to the natural healthy core. So, it is right to re-align, pain feels bad for a reason - to not be experienced asap!! If pain=entropy, then it's against life, as a rule - it's towards anhilation. So it is good to experience pain and want it to go, that's a sign of health. To grow means to firstly feel pain, then to find its origin and attempt to heal the root of the wound. The evidence supporting this is in micro and macro cosms everywhere. A physical cut even does this!
So towards growth is to evolve and experience health. There are many avenues along this road, but I know what road I want. This is a useful model to apply to any situation in life."

I want to add that I believe that by being in tune with the energy of the Divine, means for me that I am in harmony with other energy centres of the Universe, be it animal, plant or person. So therefore, I think that once I am on my evolving path, realising my destiny, I am going with the flow of the Universe, upwards in an evolving manner, and by doing this, I feel in tune with the Universe. As for things happening for a reason, I think that things happen for a reason on my line of Destiny, so as I can realise my goals... I have yet to fully make sense of the 'reason' part, lol.

Oooo!!! Love this thread WB!!! rose hug
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Reply #55 posted 01/20/04 3:18pm

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Therapy said:

Very good answer eh?! I expect a 10/10 wink

I see your point. I dunno. I guess I feel reluctant to take up the 'things happen for a reason' batton. Hang on just a moment - I want to write something that I journelled late last year about this very topic. Maybe a moment like you had Byron is about to happen!

"On sex and the city, a women said just now 'Maybe ppl say that everything happens for a reason for the pain to not be as bad'. Maybe one can focus on the reason rather than the pain. Or maybe one can feel the pain and understand the reason. In addition to that, maybe that pain is the symptom of the reason - therefore knowing the reason is valuable, as it can be freeing to help the symptom to not be repeated by treating the cause. Poem about that...

Reason for everything
The reason is the root
The pain is the symptom
Symptoms, need relief.
Any pain, needs relieving.
Needs fixing. Needs solving.
Needs to be healed,
To health, to evolution.
There really is heaven and hell
Entropy to hell and
Evolution to heaven.

In other words, there is the natural healthy core. This natural healthy core evolves and grows. Pain and suffering a symptom of something not aligned to the natural healthy core. So, it is right to re-align, pain feels bad for a reason - to not be experienced asap!! If pain=entropy, then it's against life, as a rule - it's towards anhilation. So it is good to experience pain and want it to go, that's a sign of health. To grow means to firstly feel pain, then to find its origin and attempt to heal the root of the wound. The evidence supporting this is in micro and macro cosms everywhere. A physical cut even does this!
So towards growth is to evolve and experience health. There are many avenues alaong this road, but I know that road I want. This is a useful model to apply to any situation in life."

I want to add that I believe that by being in tune with the energy of the Divine, means for me that I am in harmony with other energy centres of the Universe, be it animal, plant or person. So therefore, I think that once I am on my evolving path, realising my destiny, I am going with the flow of the Universe, upwards in an evolving manner, and by doing this, I feel in tune with the Universe. As for things happening for a reason, I think that things happen for a reason on my line of Destiny, so as I can realise my goals... I have yet to fully make sense of the 'reason' part, lol.

Oooo!!! Love this thread WB!!! rose hug
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Pretty neat... Everybody has a path that they choose, and this is your way. And it is right.

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Reply #56 posted 01/20/04 3:19pm

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Byron said:

SpcMs said:

Some people wacky

Although it's nice most seem to take some time to reflect upon things. And it's nice to b at peace with u'rself or to have a certain goal. But 'beeing in tune with the universe' or 'fullfilling ur destiny' confuse confuse
It always puzzles me when people feel the need to bring external forces in2 the mix to xplain basic psychological processes.

I don't think Supa's necklace experience or my finding the sheet of paper fall under the catagory of "psychological processes"...lol...boiled down, it's more a belief of whether or not you believe in coincidences.


For those people the wacky was all i had to say smile

No, u'r sheet of paper story i liked, and it's not all that strange when u analyse it. (people who don't feel well often feel the need to clean, so it's most likely u would find something on u'r top shelf when u don't feel well. And since u wrote it only half a year ago, and were on a pretty inspired track back then (i mean 4 pages) it is quite likely u would still b inspired by what u wrote back then) So i think yours is a nice story. (not much to do with forces of the universe though)

As for Supa's necklace. I guess GOD must have turned it... Or he is REALLY in touch with the universe smile
[This message was edited Tue Jan 20 15:21:05 PST 2004 by SpcMs]
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Reply #57 posted 01/20/04 3:37pm

Byron

Therapy said:

Very good answer eh?! I expect a 10/10 wink

I see your point. I dunno. I guess I feel reluctant to take up the 'things happen for a reason' batton. Hang on just a moment - I want to write something that I journelled late last year about this very topic. Maybe a moment like you had Byron is about to happen!

"On sex and the city, a women said just now 'Maybe ppl say that everything happens for a reason for the pain to not be as bad'. Maybe one can focus on the reason rather than the pain. Or maybe one can feel the pain and understand the reason. In addition to that, maybe that pain is the symptom of the reason - therefore knowing the reason is valuable, as it can be freeing to help the symptom to not be repeated by treating the cause. Poem about that...

Reason for everything
The reason is the root
The pain is the symptom
Symptoms, need relief.
Any pain, needs relieving.
Needs fixing. Needs solving.
Needs to be healed,
To health, to evolution.
There really is heaven and hell
Entropy to hell and
Evolution to heaven.

In other words, there is the natural healthy core. This natural healthy core evolves and grows. Pain and suffering a symptom of something not aligned to the natural healthy core. So, it is right to re-align, pain feels bad for a reason - to not be experienced asap!! If pain=entropy, then it's against life, as a rule - it's towards anhilation. So it is good to experience pain and want it to go, that's a sign of health. To grow means to firstly feel pain, then to find its origin and attempt to heal the root of the wound. The evidence supporting this is in micro and macro cosms everywhere. A physical cut even does this!
So towards growth is to evolve and experience health. There are many avenues along this road, but I know what road I want. This is a useful model to apply to any situation in life."

I want to add that I believe that by being in tune with the energy of the Divine, means for me that I am in harmony with other energy centres of the Universe, be it animal, plant or person. So therefore, I think that once I am on my evolving path, realising my destiny, I am going with the flow of the Universe, upwards in an evolving manner, and by doing this, I feel in tune with the Universe. As for things happening for a reason, I think that things happen for a reason on my line of Destiny, so as I can realise my goals... I have yet to fully make sense of the 'reason' part, lol.

Oooo!!! Love this thread WB!!! rose hug
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[This message was edited Tue Jan 20 15:22:50 PST 2004 by Therapy]

This post alone warrants 5 stars!!..lol worship

On another thread, I said:

"One of the beautiful aspects of life is the abundant opportunity we have for growth...the mistakes we make allow for the power of that growth opportunity to be experienced fully.

There is no "Life" without growth. rose"

What you said above...puts my twaddle to shame..lol wink

Again...thank you... hug
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Reply #59 posted 01/20/04 3:41pm

Byron

SpcMs said:

Byron said:

SpcMs said:

Some people wacky

Although it's nice most seem to take some time to reflect upon things. And it's nice to b at peace with u'rself or to have a certain goal. But 'beeing in tune with the universe' or 'fullfilling ur destiny' confuse confuse
It always puzzles me when people feel the need to bring external forces in2 the mix to xplain basic psychological processes.

I don't think Supa's necklace experience or my finding the sheet of paper fall under the catagory of "psychological processes"...lol...boiled down, it's more a belief of whether or not you believe in coincidences.


For those people the wacky was all i had to say smile

No, u'r sheet of paper story i liked, and it's not all that strange when u analyse it. (people who don't feel well often feel the need to clean, so it's most likely u would find something on u'r top shelf when u don't feel well. And since u wrote it only half a year ago, and were on a pretty inspired track back then (i mean 4 pages) it is quite likely u would still b inspired by what u wrote back then) So i think yours is a nice story. (not much to do with forces of the universe though)

As for Supa's necklace. I guess GOD must have turned it... Or he is REALLY in touch with the universe smile

LoL...well, with my sheet of paper story, what stood out with me was the fact that I had grabbed all the sheets of inspired drivel to crumble up and throw away (or what I was thinking was drivel when I decided to throw it all away)...or so I thought. I tried to figure out how exactly I missed one sheet of paper out of like 20...and that the one sheet of paper I missed just happen to address specifically the exact things I was experiencing on the day I found it...I could have found it days or weeks or even months before, or afterwards...so, had to chalk it up to either coincidence...or tell myself that shmaybe something "more" was at work...I chose the latter. smile

And I DO think Supa is connected into the universe... :O wink
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