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Thread started 01/18/04 1:27pm

Spookymuffin

HELP - MATHS PEOPLE!

HELP - CALLING ALL PEOPLE WHO CAN DO MATHS.

I have to work out a quadratic equation, and I need your help on the answer.

Have a peekles:

2x^2 (i.e. 2 times [x squared]) - 3x - 2 = 0

I've factorised it:

2(x-1)(x-2)=0

But what does "x" equal if it's got that two outside the brackets?

You'll know if you've at least got it semi-right if you get an answer of:

x = y or z

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[This message was edited Sun Jan 18 13:47:03 PST 2004 by Spookymuffin]
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Reply #1 posted 01/18/04 1:32pm

JaneyPoos

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2sqd= 4

4-3x-2= 0
0+2=2 whats 3 divided by 2?

damn i'm shite at maths!

I think whatever 3 divided by 2 is is the answer
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Reply #2 posted 01/18/04 1:33pm

Spookymuffin

JaneyPoos said:

2sqd= 4

4-3x-2= 0
0+2=2 whats 3 divided by 2?

damn i'm shite at maths!

I think whatever 3 divided by 2 is is the answer


Nope, it x always equals something or something else, not one thing is Quadratic Equations. i.e.

x = -2 or -4 for example.

Oh, and it's not 2 squared, it's 2x squared. Sorry for confusing. And you have to factorise it first.
[This message was edited Sun Jan 18 13:35:06 PST 2004 by Spookymuffin]
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Reply #3 posted 01/18/04 1:40pm

Byron

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...
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Reply #4 posted 01/18/04 1:42pm

Spookymuffin

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...


You're right, that's what it is.
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Reply #5 posted 01/18/04 1:43pm

2the9s

2 and -.5? confuse
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Reply #6 posted 01/18/04 1:43pm

MostBeautifulG
rlNTheWorld

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...




2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0
4x-3x-2=0
x-2=0
x=2


I doubt I did that right...I was never good at algebra...give me a geometry and I will be ok. But hey it was worth a shot. mr.green
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Reply #7 posted 01/18/04 1:44pm

Spookymuffin

MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said:

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...




2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0
4x-3x-2=0
x-2=0
x=2


I doubt I did that right...I was never good at algebra...give me a geometry and I will be ok. But hey it was worth a shot. mr.green


No, you're wrong, it's in the form "x=y or z"
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Reply #8 posted 01/18/04 1:45pm

Raspberry

Spookymuffin said:

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...


You're right, that's what it is.


x=2
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Reply #9 posted 01/18/04 1:45pm

Spookymuffin

2the9s said:

2 and -.5? confuse


I don't think so, at least not the way I've done it.
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Reply #10 posted 01/18/04 1:45pm

2the9s

Spookymuffin said:

2the9s said:

2 and -.5? confuse


I don't think so, at least not the way I've done it.


Well here's the way I did it!:

http://www.mathgoodies.co...ations.htm

lol
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Reply #11 posted 01/18/04 1:45pm

MostBeautifulG
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Spookymuffin said:

MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said:

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...




2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0
4x-3x-2=0
x-2=0
x=2


I doubt I did that right...I was never good at algebra...give me a geometry and I will be ok. But hey it was worth a shot. mr.green


No, you're wrong, it's in the form "x=y or z"



See told ya I would fuck it up... uzi Algebra
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Reply #12 posted 01/18/04 1:46pm

conch5184

Well to get rid of the minus 2, you could add 2 to the 0. So you would have 2x^2-3x=2
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Reply #13 posted 01/18/04 1:46pm

Spookymuffin

Raspberry said:

Spookymuffin said:

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...


You're right, that's what it is.


x=2


Nope, again, it's in the form "x = y or z"
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Reply #14 posted 01/18/04 1:46pm

conch5184

been too long...
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Reply #15 posted 01/18/04 1:47pm

JaneyPoos

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Jesus christ! lol How confusings this!

to be honest I didn't hold high hopes for my math skills I tried to help my mates lil sister with her 11+ mock papers the other day (a paper 10-11 year olds rolleyes ) and I didn't understand it! lol

I have no idea how I got a C for it at GCSE (thats the exams at bout 16 yrs)

(brackets are for those who don't know these things!)



(MATHS confuse ) lol


dopey nuts edit doh!
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Reply #16 posted 01/18/04 1:49pm

Spookymuffin

JaneyPoos said:

Jesus christ! lol How confusings this!

to be honest I didn't hold high hopes for my math skills I tried to help my mates lil sister with her 11+ mock papers the other day (a paper 10-11 year olds rolleyes ) and I didn't understand it! lol

I have no idea how I got a C for it at GCSE (thats the exams at bout 16 yrs)

(brackets are for those who don't know these things!)



(MATHS confuse ) lol


dopey nuts edit doh!
[This message was edited Sun Jan 18 13:48:32 PST 2004 by JaneyPoos]


I take my GCSE this time next year, and this is one of the topics we have to study.
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Reply #17 posted 01/18/04 1:49pm

AnotherLoverTo
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I think when you break it (2xsquared-3x-2=0) down, it should be:

2(x-3)(x+1)=0, then "FOIL" it (multiply first, outside, inside, last)...

2x+2-3x+3=0, then add/subtract...

-1x+5=0, then subtract the 5 from 0

-1x=-5, then divide -1x and -5 by -1X

x=5

??
[This message was edited Sun Jan 18 13:52:21 PST 2004 by AnotherLoverToo]
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Reply #18 posted 01/18/04 1:49pm

Raspberry

Spookymuffin said:

Raspberry said:

Spookymuffin said:

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...


You're right, that's what it is.


x=2


Nope, again, it's in the form "x = y or z"

confuse

they don't want you to find the value of x? what does the question actually state?
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Reply #19 posted 01/18/04 1:51pm

Spookymuffin

AnotherLoverToo said:

I think when you break it down, it should be:

2(x-3)(x+1)=0, then FOIL it...

2x+2-3x+3=0, then add/subtract...

-1x+5=0, then subtract the 5 from 0

-1x=-5, then divide -1x and -5 by -1X

x=5

??


Wow, thanks for trying it, but you got the bit at the beginning wrong.
Factorised, it is: 2 (x-1) (x-2) = 0, then you have to work out from that what x equals.
I know that, without the two outside the brackets, "x=+1 or +2"

Do you get how it works now, I just wonder what that two means, like if it makes it x= +1/2 or +2/2 (i.e. 1)
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Reply #20 posted 01/18/04 1:53pm

Spookymuffin

Raspberry said:

Spookymuffin said:

Raspberry said:

Spookymuffin said:

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...


You're right, that's what it is.


x=2


Nope, again, it's in the form "x = y or z"

confuse

they don't want you to find the value of x? what does the question actually state?


Because 2x^2 -3x - 2 = 0 (i.e. the equation = nothing), then, when this is factorised to 2(x-1)(x-2)=0, it becomes evident that one of the multples must be 0, and so you add, in this case, 1 or 2 to make x = 0 again, but that 2 outside the brackets confuddles me.
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Reply #21 posted 01/18/04 1:54pm

Raspberry

one thing's clear ... not many of us here understand quadratic equations biggrin
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Reply #22 posted 01/18/04 1:54pm

conch5184

I think it's throwing me off that you go to school in Britian, they word things differently... do you go to Eton?
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Reply #23 posted 01/18/04 1:55pm

AnotherLoverTo
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Spookymuffin said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

I think when you break it down, it should be:

2(x-3)(x+1)=0, then FOIL it...

2x+2-3x+3=0, then add/subtract...

-1x+5=0, then subtract the 5 from 0

-1x=-5, then divide -1x and -5 by -1X

x=5

??


Wow, thanks for trying it, but you got the bit at the beginning wrong.
Factorised, it is: 2 (x-1) (x-2) = 0, then you have to work out from that what x equals.
I know that, without the two outside the brackets, "x=+1 or +2"

Do you get how it works now, I just wonder what that two means, like if it makes it x= +1/2 or +2/2 (i.e. 1)



Ah, well then, it's still the same way. I think your'e supposed to use the 2 to multiply it out (FOIL):

2(x-1)(x-2)=0

2x-4-1x+2=0

1x-2=0

1x=2

x=2
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Reply #24 posted 01/18/04 1:57pm

Spookymuffin

conch5184 said:

I think it's throwing me off that you go to school in Britian, they word things differently... do you go to Eton?


Yes, I go to Eton.
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Reply #25 posted 01/18/04 1:57pm

conch5184

it has to be x= y or z !! geez even i know that giggle
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Reply #26 posted 01/18/04 1:57pm

2the9s

Spookymuffin said:

Raspberry said:

Spookymuffin said:

Raspberry said:

Spookymuffin said:

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...


You're right, that's what it is.


x=2


Nope, again, it's in the form "x = y or z"

confuse

they don't want you to find the value of x? what does the question actually state?


Because 2x^2 -3x - 2 = 0 (i.e. the equation = nothing), then, when this is factorised to 2(x-1)(x-2)=0, it becomes evident that one of the multples must be 0, and so you add, in this case, 1 or 2 to make x = 0 again, but that 2 outside the brackets confuddles me.



That's why you need to complete the square at the beginning, no?

So: x^2 -3/2x=2/2

This is so vague in my head. You need to get to the quadratic formula.

Good luck! biggrin
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Reply #27 posted 01/18/04 1:57pm

Byron

x = Kentucky

nod
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Reply #28 posted 01/18/04 1:58pm

Spookymuffin

AnotherLoverToo said:

Spookymuffin said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

I think when you break it down, it should be:

2(x-3)(x+1)=0, then FOIL it...

2x+2-3x+3=0, then add/subtract...

-1x+5=0, then subtract the 5 from 0

-1x=-5, then divide -1x and -5 by -1X

x=5

??


Wow, thanks for trying it, but you got the bit at the beginning wrong.
Factorised, it is: 2 (x-1) (x-2) = 0, then you have to work out from that what x equals.
I know that, without the two outside the brackets, "x=+1 or +2"

Do you get how it works now, I just wonder what that two means, like if it makes it x= +1/2 or +2/2 (i.e. 1)



Ah, well then:

2x-4-1x+2=0

1x-2=0

1x=2

x=2


Nope, like I've said before, x must equal something in the form of "x = y or z" - Don't try and break the equation up, it doesn't work. You must Factorise first.
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Reply #29 posted 01/18/04 1:58pm

Raspberry

Spookymuffin said:

Raspberry said:

Spookymuffin said:

Raspberry said:

Spookymuffin said:

Byron said:

You sure it's not 2(x squared)- 3x - 2 = 0??...


You're right, that's what it is.


x=2


Nope, again, it's in the form "x = y or z"

confuse

they don't want you to find the value of x? what does the question actually state?


Because 2x^2 -3x - 2 = 0 (i.e. the equation = nothing), then, when this is factorised to 2(x-1)(x-2)=0, it becomes evident that one of the multples must be 0, and so you add, in this case, 1 or 2 to make x = 0 again, but that 2 outside the brackets confuddles me.



This was my calculation, but I appreciate it's wrong. I obviously don't know anything about quadratics biggrin

2(2x2) - (3x2) - 2 = 0
2(4) - 6 - 2 = 0
8-6-2=0
x=2
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