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rdhull said: Sweeny79 said: rdhull said: Sweeny79 said: rdhull said: Sweeny79 said: rdhull said: Sweeny79 said: rdhull said: theVelvetRoper said: Okay, so a lot of you know the gist of the story. He's a complete asshole, but I love him so much...
how old are you, 12? Hey! I know it might sound stupid to someone outside of the situation but give the kid a break! Your heart will sometimes lead you places your head tells you not to go. Why belittle her when it's obvious she is in pain? What is the point of making her feel worse? Well maybe instead of babying her ass or placating her ..a different stance is what she needs instead of bullshit. Oh so it's tough love than right? Look I agree with what you are saying, I understand where you are coming from but making her feel worse is not going to help anyone. There are many ways to say the same thing without attacking her as a person. my  And here is my two cents: a guy is treating her and has been treating her like an asshole that he is...now you can go the route of "ahhh there there...lets try and sort this out" when u know, and I know, and she knows that she is much too old to be acting like she's in junior high being mistreated by some idiot who jerks off before 6th period...because that is the stance she is taking in the explanation. She needs to make a grown up decision nbot a school girl one..thats my two cents my opinion and Im sticking to it...yall go head and do the Oprah. . [This message was edited Sun Jan 11 12:04:54 PST 2004 by rdhull] Oprah???!!! 
I ain't trying to be Oprah! If you scan up a bit I told her to drop the loser too. I agree she needs to get away from him but I refuse to make her feel like any less of a person because her heart is having trouble letting go. what the fuck ever lol...yeah thats exactly what I was doing..:"trying to make her feel less of a person" etc..please! Just becau I wasn't raised by Mary Poppins an d come at it a different way ( straight no chaser) DO NOT attempt to tell me that Im trying to hurt somebody just because its not the same way that you subscribe too. Some nerve. Like I just said. We are both saying the same thing. I just feel some sensitivity would help her more than coldness.  Sweeny darling...you are hardly the one to be giving me advice...especially after the last public fiasco reminiscent of this of yours that I never called you out on when u tried ot pull this shit I will leave it at that . [This message was edited Sun Jan 11 12:18:41 PST 2004 by rdhull] Lets say I am learning from my mistakes. In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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| Sweeny and rd, y'all wanna take it outside while we beat some sense into Velvet?! Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said: Sweeny and rd, y'all wanna take it outside while we beat some sense into Velvet?! I'm done now, procced with the beating.In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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Sweeny79 said: Rdhull, I really do understand what you are saying! And for the record I was NOT raised my Mary Poppins.Ok,I'm gonna stop now, but I just want you to put yourself in her position. 19 in love, hurt and confused. Is someone telling you "oh grow up" really going to benefit you at all?
Try to treat others the way you wish to be treated is all I am saying.  Who told her to grow up? I said how old are you because shes acting as if shes 12 and does not already know what she has to do to make things right. Quoit trying to deciphjer my words into what YOU think they mean. You the type who fosters dependency etc I bet. And I am treating others how I wish to be treated. ShitId love ot have had soeone tell me straight up in the past and they have and I have appreciated it...you go on head now and Oprahcize these things. "Climb in my fur." | |
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Lammastide said: Sweeny and rd, y'all wanna take it outside while we beat some sense into Velvet?! "Climb in my fur." | |
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Sweeny79 said: rdhull said: Sweeny79 said: rdhull said: Sweeny79 said: rdhull said: Sweeny79 said: rdhull said: Sweeny79 said: rdhull said: theVelvetRoper said: Okay, so a lot of you know the gist of the story. He's a complete asshole, but I love him so much...
how old are you, 12? Hey! I know it might sound stupid to someone outside of the situation but give the kid a break! Your heart will sometimes lead you places your head tells you not to go. Why belittle her when it's obvious she is in pain? What is the point of making her feel worse? Well maybe instead of babying her ass or placating her ..a different stance is what she needs instead of bullshit. Oh so it's tough love than right? Look I agree with what you are saying, I understand where you are coming from but making her feel worse is not going to help anyone. There are many ways to say the same thing without attacking her as a person. my And here is my two cents: a guy is treating her and has been treating her like an asshole that he is...now you can go the route of "ahhh there there...lets try and sort this out" when u know, and I know, and she knows that she is much too old to be acting like she's in junior high being mistreated by some idiot who jerks off before 6th period...because that is the stance she is taking in the explanation. She needs to make a grown up decision nbot a school girl one..thats my two cents my opinion and Im sticking to it...yall go head and do the Oprah. . [This message was edited Sun Jan 11 12:04:54 PST 2004 by rdhull] Oprah???!!!
I ain't trying to be Oprah! If you scan up a bit I told her to drop the loser too. I agree she needs to get away from him but I refuse to make her feel like any less of a person because her heart is having trouble letting go. what the fuck ever lol...yeah thats exactly what I was doing..:"trying to make her feel less of a person" etc..please! Just becau I wasn't raised by Mary Poppins an d come at it a different way ( straight no chaser) DO NOT attempt to tell me that Im trying to hurt somebody just because its not the same way that you subscribe too. Some nerve. Like I just said. We are both saying the same thing. I just feel some sensitivity would help her more than coldness. Sweeny darling...you are hardly the one to be giving me advice...especially after the last public fiasco reminiscent of this of yours that I never called you out on when u tried ot pull this shit I will leave it at that . [This message was edited Sun Jan 11 12:18:41 PST 2004 by rdhull] Lets say I am learning from my mistakes. Good..then until you learn from them stop "trying" to give me advice or tell me what to do etc. When you get YOUR head straight then you can attempt to give me your so called educated opinion. "Climb in my fur." | |
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Like I said I'm done now. peace Rd In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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Sweeny79 said: Like I said I'm done now. peace Rd
k "Climb in my fur." | |
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.. [This message was edited Sun Jan 11 12:36:43 PST 2004 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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Just to straighten this little mess up I wrote an orgnote to Rd and I thought i would share it with whoever was watching this mess to make sure my true intent was known i realize sometimes, well most of the time, it's hard for me to say just what I mean. I really did not intent to fight with anyone.
Sent to: rdhull (click to see profile) Subject: Just to let you know... Sent: Sun Jan 11 2004 12:38pm --- I respect you as a person. I agree with what you said, just not how you said it. Maybe it's different because you are a guy but when you are a girl and some asshole rips you apart I know from experience (even recent experience) that the last thing you need is some other guy being insensitive. I know you didn't mean it to be insensitive. I know you had the best intentions. I know because I struggle with having so called "tact" It's something I really do work hard at lately, because I realize how much it can hurt when others just "say it like it is." Well, ok sorry to get into this with you, it was pretty stupid to make each other upset. I really do like you and there is validity in everything you say. Sorry it just hit me in a sore spot this afternoon. Peace Kim In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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Sweeny, thank you. It sucks. 
RD, thank you. You're right. | |
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Just burn the fucker girl.  When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. | |
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If we all lived together in a house this shit would not happen. | |
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2the9s said: If we all lived together in a house this shit would not happen.
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. | |
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bkw said: Just burn the fucker girl.
Lol!  | |
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He's a bad habit you should quit. Don't let him teke advantage of you once again. | |
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He is fucking up with YOU, not the other way around | |
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REDFEATHERS said: He is fucking up with YOU, not the other way around
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Dont go ur letting him think that he can use u anytime heneeds to...  And like His promise is true
only my faith can undo the many chances I blew-R.I.P. Left Eye | |
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follow ur heart, i dnt think we should help, do wot ur heart tells u, if u dnt know wot it says, just listen to one of us lol Keenmeister |
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Maybe u need 2 work on your own self esteem, i mean often if we do things that we know are going to hurt us it can mean that we are not valuing ourselves highly enough.
You need to really believe you are a pretty young girl, with a lot 2 offer someone who deserves it, most definitely NOT this guy. | |
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theVelvetRoper said: Okay, so a lot of you know the gist of the story. He's a complete asshole, but I love him so much...
I don't know what to do. He called the other day, he lost his job, and he "needs me more than he's ever needed me before" and "a long talk would do both of us good", as he said. He wants me to go and stay with him because he's depressed and more than likely wants me to help him out and be like Little Miss Wifey now, after what he did to me. Besides, what am I going to be able to do for him? He's 29, a grown man, and I'm 19. He's a big boy, and he certainly didn't "need" me before when I was "too young". What about all of the times I was lonely and needed him? He couldn't even pick up the phone. I don't want to be dumb and let him take advantage of the feelings that he knows I still have, but I don't know what to do. I keep thinking that maybe he genuinely needs me, and if I could show him how much I care by being there for him through everything that's happened, things would be back to how they were. That sounds completely ridiculous, because I have nothing to prove to him; he was the one who hurt me, but I love him and I have no idea what to do.  
[This message was edited Sun Jan 11 5:43:06 PST 2004 by theVelvetRoper] He's manipulating you. Leave him alone | |
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He's just feeling lost and wants to have you back to make him feel good again. He's a big boy...he will get over it and you don't need to go to him for him to sort out his life.
You certainly DON'T need him either! Keep your didstance if you do feel you need to talk to him...but only do that over the phone. | |
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althom said: He's just feeling lost and wants to have you back to make him feel good again. He's a big boy...he will get over it and you don't need to go to him for him to sort out his life.
You certainly DON'T need him either! Keep your didstance if you do feel you need to talk to him...but only do that over the phone. heh that is the story of my life :Nod: Trust me dear you do not need him. Get away while you can. It may hurt, but the pain will be worth going through in the end. | |
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BTW, am i the only person who is amazed that RD is a guy???  | |
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Thanks, you guys.  | |
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naughtylittleraven said: BTW, am i the only person who is amazed that RD is a guy???
I guess so!  | |
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althom said: naughtylittleraven said: BTW, am i the only person who is amazed that RD is a guy???
I guess so! Well i always thought it was a girl posting, goes 2 show what i know, not a bloody lot!! : | |
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naughtylittleraven said: althom said: naughtylittleraven said: BTW, am i the only person who is amazed that RD is a guy???
I guess so! Well i always thought it was a girl posting, goes 2 show what i know, not a bloody lot!! : rdhull has many girlish qualities. 
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2the9s said: naughtylittleraven said: althom said: naughtylittleraven said: BTW, am i the only person who is amazed that RD is a guy???
I guess so! Well i always thought it was a girl posting, goes 2 show what i know, not a bloody lot!! : rdhull has many girlish qualities.
heh heh cough cough *boa* cough cough
girly edit [This message was edited Sun Jan 11 19:41:42 PST 2004 by bkw] When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. | |
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