http://www.suntimes.com/o...yne10.html

After winning best talk show emmy and best talk show host last year.

Now sheila and her brother have something in common

...finally!!!




PEACE N B WiLD!!!

4jamiestarr said:

now you can go watch ellen instead

jthad1129 said:

I hereby take back everything I've ever said previously on the subject and declare before all of you that we now have indisputable proof: THERE IS A GOD!

OneMoJam said:

poor wayne though...

the one and only time i watched his show is when sheila e. and apollonia were on there last december...

Another minstrel show cancelled!

sinisterpentatonic said:

what is it that folks want though

rdhull said:

Whatever it is, he seemed to try and stumble across it within the hour of his show.

He'd do a monologue, sing a song, have guest, do comedy skits, play with the band, and kiss the ass of many guest. I'm sure within his show he was doing something right, just not enough of it.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Well thats my point..we will never be happy with a black host-variety show etc...I mean do we ned farakhan to have avariety talk show ...because fuck it. Some of us appreciate Carol Burnette too. I mean come on. Are we puttin us into a corner saying what we can and cant do? What we m,ust abide by as a host...is being cordial to your guests (that u need to have a show survive) being an asskisser? I dont get it. Not everyone can be David Letterman and I know that soetimes hoists can over do it with the schmooozing ...is there a show that can be in the middle and survive?

I'll do it! lol

sinisterpentatonic said:

he was raised on Mike Douglas and Merv Griffith

and said "I want to do that"

rdhull said:

I feel you man, I know he was just doing his thang, I didn't mean to hate on him like that, it's that I've always held on to what Miles said about Satchmo as a golden rule.

I just hate to see brothers shuckin and jiving, I would very much be part of the built in audience for Farrakahn's show.

I wonder how many times he could get away with saying devil before they canceled his show?

But yeah, if given the opportunity, I'd probably be battin' my eyes and showing my teeth for dat money.

rdhull said:

I'm sure Sammy davis jr. was an influence on him too, but when I think about Sammy, I often wonder how a one eyed, devil worshiping black jew got to be so famous?

Nevermind!



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sinisterpentatonic said:

Why is showing normal human emotion like smiling sen as shuking and jivin? Wouldnt there also be times you would tell Farakhan to shut the fuck up and have a drink?

I mean look at 106 and Park..talk about shuckin n jivin...wtf is that shit..these upper middle class-ites pretending to be down etc and urban? etc..

why cant we see ourselves as more than just being raised in th e city..there are no blacks in suburbia..or who have been prive;ledged etc?

and do u think a show on national television is going to last for more than one week with someone whos 1988 Public Enemey attitude each and everyday or Farakhans etc

folks slay me...

LTD-Jeffeey Osbourne sang: "Everytime I (we) move I lose...when I let them in"-Back In Love Again

Its either Good Times poor or Cosby rich..aint no in between? Good fuckin god

a critc once called Boomerang ( the Eddie Murphy flick) movie a "science fiction movie"

this whole shit is trife...

tell ya what..Wayne was gettin paid refuckingsardless of any of our critcal views..he aint give a fuck and in th elong run aint anyone else give a fuck about anyone else either and that includes me and you...becasue at th e end of the day we all got bills to pay etc and aint nobody gonna pay them but ourselves individually

sinisterpentatonic said:

Now see anything is possible

Richard Pryor said in 1979 ( se Richard Pryor Live In Concert).."be glad for a nigga doin anything"

do u understand his sentiments although crudely put?

rdhull said:

Well yeah, I know Wanye ain't giving a fuck about me.

But I'm sure I mattered when it came to the neilsens.

You know everyman chooses his destiny, but you won't see me tap dancing for nobody!

if wayne loves what he's doing, more power to him.

Hey, I'm just keeping it real man, i guess it's the militant in me. Hey there's many people of color in the suburbs and that are priviledged. I never said assimilation wasn't workin'

Yeah some of Farrakahn's idieologies may be a bit warped, but it's the hate that made hate.

Poverty and wealth exist in every race ain't no denying that, so some people's reality might be Kabrini green such as in good times and others may be experiencing the 901201 reality and then there are us in between. Maybe a upper middle (class-ites?) effort in trying to be down is just trying to hold on to a part of their culture rather than acting out the behaviour of the dominant majority? i don't know, call me a pessimist.


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rdhull said:

I understand it, though I don't agree.

sinisterpentatonic said:

Aint much wrong with your sentiments--but why do we always have to down one of our own...and that's my point..NO MATTER WHAT WE DO..there will be our own folks givin us the finger no matter what we do...no matter what...militant, middle, or so called shuckin etc...hate to air dirty laundry but this thread is for that I guess...

rdhull said:

It seems this struggle is never ending.

I love Wayne Brady. He is one of the most talented men on television these days. The man can sing, dance, act and is so hysterically funny (plus he's a hottie .)
It's truly a shame that his show was cancelled.

sinisterpentatonic said:

THIS would be classic!!!
[This message was edited Sat Jan 10 21:40:56 PST 2004 by Lammastide]

I've watched his show a few times and he was simply the worst interviewer I had ever seen. He made Arsenio Hall and Magic Johnson seem competent

He is pretty funny and talented which is why I thought he was better suited to the original Wayne Brady show that got cancelled by ABC (the one with Rhonda in his band) where basically he just did skits.