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Thread started 01/01/04 9:22pm

DudeDrops

Big Fish

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).
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Reply #1 posted 01/01/04 9:34pm

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Oh no... disbelief

Is that Tom Green in your avatar?
They did WHAT??!.... disbelief
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Reply #2 posted 01/01/04 9:37pm

DudeDrops

kiss85 said:

Oh no... disbelief

Is that Tom Green in your avatar?



Hey...don't diss my boy! Tom is one of the funniest guys to come out in the last 10 years. If his shtick isn't funny anymore, it's because he lost the element of surprise that his comedy thrived on...AND the "Jackass" crew overshadowed him.

But Tom ROCKS! smile smile
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Reply #3 posted 01/01/04 9:37pm

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kiss85 said:

Oh no... disbelief

Is that Tom Green in your avatar?


Tom Green is the biggest shithead to be put on television. he's just another in a long line of idiots that American Tv loves to put on, Jerry Springer being the father of all TV idiots.
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Reply #4 posted 01/01/04 9:40pm

applekisses

Milty said:

kiss85 said:

Oh no... disbelief

Is that Tom Green in your avatar?


Tom Green is the biggest shithead to be put on television. he's just another in a long line of idiots that American Tv loves to put on, Jerry Springer being the father of all TV idiots.


omfg evil

Tom Green is a MASTER of social satire...you really shouldn't judge him so harshly.
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Reply #5 posted 01/01/04 9:41pm

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Milty said:

kiss85 said:

Oh no... disbelief

Is that Tom Green in your avatar?


Tom Green is the biggest shithead to be put on television. he's just another in a long line of idiots that American Tv loves to put on, Jerry Springer being the father of all TV idiots.

nod Indeed. nod
But I gotta admit, at least Jerry has the millions (and the girls) to show for it. lol
They did WHAT??!.... disbelief
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Reply #6 posted 01/01/04 9:43pm

DudeDrops

applekisses said:

Milty said:

kiss85 said:

Oh no... disbelief

Is that Tom Green in your avatar?


Tom Green is the biggest shithead to be put on television. he's just another in a long line of idiots that American Tv loves to put on, Jerry Springer being the father of all TV idiots.


omfg evil

Tom Green is a MASTER of social satire...you really shouldn't judge him so harshly.



Agreed (I KNEW you'd have my back on this one wink ). Tom's comedy is a living sociology course. There's ALOT of intelligence behind his madness. And plus...Cripes, so much of it is just flat-out FUNNY!

OK, so "Freddy Got Fingered" can't be forgiven...but his "Subway Monkey Hour" and three seasons of his MTV show were FANTASTIC.

And I have a secret delight in how he torments Glenn Humplik...
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Reply #7 posted 01/01/04 9:45pm

Milty

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applekisses said:

Milty said:

kiss85 said:

Oh no... disbelief

Is that Tom Green in your avatar?


Tom Green is the biggest shithead to be put on television. he's just another in a long line of idiots that American Tv loves to put on, Jerry Springer being the father of all TV idiots.


omfg evil

Tom Green is a MASTER of social satire...you really shouldn't judge him so harshly.


well if that is the case, then i still have to see it for myself but i've only seen his stupid talk show and i tell you, it's awful, just god awful. there is nothing good about that shit. go MTV!
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Reply #8 posted 01/01/04 9:47pm

applekisses

DudeDrops said:

applekisses said:

Milty said:

kiss85 said:

Oh no... disbelief

Is that Tom Green in your avatar?


Tom Green is the biggest shithead to be put on television. he's just another in a long line of idiots that American Tv loves to put on, Jerry Springer being the father of all TV idiots.


omfg evil

Tom Green is a MASTER of social satire...you really shouldn't judge him so harshly.



Agreed (I KNEW you'd have my back on this one wink ). Tom's comedy is a living sociology course. There's ALOT of intelligence behind his madness. And plus...Cripes, so much of it is just flat-out FUNNY!

OK, so "Freddy Got Fingered" can't be forgiven...but his "Subway Monkey Hour" and three seasons of his MTV show were FANTASTIC.

And I have a secret delight in how he torments Glenn Humplik...


lol

Absolutely...you have to look a little bit behind the silliness of it all.
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There is NO comparison between him and Jerry Springer of all people... lol
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Reply #9 posted 01/01/04 9:49pm

rdhull

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DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


I went to try and see this today but it was sold out..ggrrr
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #10 posted 01/01/04 9:49pm

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DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


Is this the new Tim Burton film? hmmm
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Reply #11 posted 01/01/04 9:51pm

Milty

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sorry to attack your hero, Tom Green.
i haven't seen the movie
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Reply #12 posted 01/01/04 9:51pm

DudeDrops

AnotherLoverToo said:

DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


Is this the new Tim Burton film? hmmm


Yup. It's definitely Burton's attempt to get back to thoughtful yet bizarre films like "Ed Wood" or "Edward Scissorhands" rather than over-blown tripe like that "Planet of the Apes" movie. But...the film just bothered me on an emotional level. It seems to glamorize a narcissist and pathological liar. The guy reminds me SOOO much of my idiot father...
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Reply #13 posted 01/01/04 9:54pm

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DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


There was a lot more to it than the guy just being a big liar. I loved it because it reminded me off all the crazy, absurd stories you remember about a loved one after they pass on. When someone dies, it's always the funny, vibrant stories that you look back on with fondness. To me, it was about making your own memories.
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #14 posted 01/01/04 9:56pm

DudeDrops

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


There was a lot more to it than the guy just being a big liar. I loved it because it reminded me off all the crazy, absurd stories you remember about a loved one after they pass on. When someone dies, it's always the funny, vibrant stories that you look back on with fondness. To me, it was about making your own memories.



I agree that that is the theme of the movie...but Burton is STILL guilty of glamorizing the man for being NOT A STORYTELLER...but a blowhard LIAR who was drunk on his own legend. I see what Burton was aiming for...but I just object to the fact that the film heroizes an asshole. I just REALLY didn't like Edward Bloom.
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Reply #15 posted 01/01/04 10:39pm

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DudeDrops said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


There was a lot more to it than the guy just being a big liar. I loved it because it reminded me off all the crazy, absurd stories you remember about a loved one after they pass on. When someone dies, it's always the funny, vibrant stories that you look back on with fondness. To me, it was about making your own memories.



I agree that that is the theme of the movie...but Burton is STILL guilty of glamorizing the man for being NOT A STORYTELLER...but a blowhard LIAR who was drunk on his own legend. I see what Burton was aiming for...but I just object to the fact that the film heroizes an asshole. I just REALLY didn't like Edward Bloom.


Well, Edward Blooms a cunt. What can I say?
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #16 posted 01/01/04 11:03pm

blackcherry

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theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


There was a lot more to it than the guy just being a big liar. I loved it because it reminded me off all the crazy, absurd stories you remember about a loved one after they pass on. When someone dies, it's always the funny, vibrant stories that you look back on with fondness. To me, it was about making your own memories.



I agree that that is the theme of the movie...but Burton is STILL guilty of glamorizing the man for being NOT A STORYTELLER...but a blowhard LIAR who was drunk on his own legend. I see what Burton was aiming for...but I just object to the fact that the film heroizes an asshole. I just REALLY didn't like Edward Bloom.


Well, Edward Blooms a cunt. What can I say?


eek you said cunt love
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Reply #17 posted 01/01/04 11:15pm

theVelvetRoper

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blackcherry said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


There was a lot more to it than the guy just being a big liar. I loved it because it reminded me off all the crazy, absurd stories you remember about a loved one after they pass on. When someone dies, it's always the funny, vibrant stories that you look back on with fondness. To me, it was about making your own memories.



I agree that that is the theme of the movie...but Burton is STILL guilty of glamorizing the man for being NOT A STORYTELLER...but a blowhard LIAR who was drunk on his own legend. I see what Burton was aiming for...but I just object to the fact that the film heroizes an asshole. I just REALLY didn't like Edward Bloom.


Well, Edward Blooms a cunt. What can I say?


eek you said cunt love


Lol, would you prefer "C-U-Next-Tuesday"?
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #18 posted 01/01/04 11:21pm

blackcherry

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theVelvetRoper said:

blackcherry said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


There was a lot more to it than the guy just being a big liar. I loved it because it reminded me off all the crazy, absurd stories you remember about a loved one after they pass on. When someone dies, it's always the funny, vibrant stories that you look back on with fondness. To me, it was about making your own memories.



I agree that that is the theme of the movie...but Burton is STILL guilty of glamorizing the man for being NOT A STORYTELLER...but a blowhard LIAR who was drunk on his own legend. I see what Burton was aiming for...but I just object to the fact that the film heroizes an asshole. I just REALLY didn't like Edward Bloom.


Well, Edward Blooms a cunt. What can I say?


eek you said cunt love


Lol, would you prefer "C-U-Next-Tuesday"?


if you say cunt again i will C-U-Tonight biggrin
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Reply #19 posted 01/02/04 1:25am

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blackcherry said:

theVelvetRoper said:

blackcherry said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


There was a lot more to it than the guy just being a big liar. I loved it because it reminded me off all the crazy, absurd stories you remember about a loved one after they pass on. When someone dies, it's always the funny, vibrant stories that you look back on with fondness. To me, it was about making your own memories.



I agree that that is the theme of the movie...but Burton is STILL guilty of glamorizing the man for being NOT A STORYTELLER...but a blowhard LIAR who was drunk on his own legend. I see what Burton was aiming for...but I just object to the fact that the film heroizes an asshole. I just REALLY didn't like Edward Bloom.


Well, Edward Blooms a cunt. What can I say?


eek you said cunt love


Lol, would you prefer "C-U-Next-Tuesday"?


if you say cunt again i will C-U-Tonight biggrin


Does it turn you on when I say it? wink
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #20 posted 01/02/04 7:37am

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theVelvetRoper said:

blackcherry said:

theVelvetRoper said:

blackcherry said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

theVelvetRoper said:

DudeDrops said:

OK, I just got back from seeing this movie, and I both love it and hate it at the same time. I love it...because it IS a fascinating and thoughtful film that pays tribute to the power of make-believe.

BUT...on some deep, gut level I HATED THIS FILM TOO...mainly because it reminds me too much of my own situation with my father (whom I'm estranged from). There are two ways of looking at the Albert Finney character: either as a pathological liar who can't deal with his own failings as a person...OR as a Walter Mitty who's tales serve as heavy-duty metaphors. I can't decide which take I prefer.

But who else has seen this movie? Any thoughts?

If you haven't seen it, you SHOULD, simply because this IS a very thoughtful movie, whether or not you agree with the premise (which I don't think I do. I'll probably see it again before passing final judgement).


There was a lot more to it than the guy just being a big liar. I loved it because it reminded me off all the crazy, absurd stories you remember about a loved one after they pass on. When someone dies, it's always the funny, vibrant stories that you look back on with fondness. To me, it was about making your own memories.



I agree that that is the theme of the movie...but Burton is STILL guilty of glamorizing the man for being NOT A STORYTELLER...but a blowhard LIAR who was drunk on his own legend. I see what Burton was aiming for...but I just object to the fact that the film heroizes an asshole. I just REALLY didn't like Edward Bloom.


Well, Edward Blooms a cunt. What can I say?


eek you said cunt love


Lol, would you prefer "C-U-Next-Tuesday"?


if you say cunt again i will C-U-Tonight biggrin


Does it turn you on when I say it? wink


drooling

i think i am leaking
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Reply #21 posted 01/02/04 7:44am

endorphin74

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Hmm, I actually was quite disappointed in this movie. Maybe my expectations were too high. I thought it was visually a beautiful film. However, it was too long and I just didn't grow to care about anyone in the film.

Perhaps it comes down to a dislike for Edward Bloom. While Edward and his son managed to 'reconnect" at the end of the film, I wasn't satisfied as the Edward character never saw anything wrong in his behaviors.

I actually grew so impatient with the film that I got up halfway through, used the toilet, got a pretzel, ran into and talked with a friend. Maybe I should try it one more time, but I was just not impressed with this film.

confuse
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Reply #22 posted 01/02/04 7:52am

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endorphin74 said:

confuse

Hmm, I actually was quite disappointed in this movie. Maybe my expectations were too high. I thought it was visually a beautiful film. However, it was too long and I just didn't grow to care about anyone in the film.

Perhaps it comes down to a dislike for Edward Bloom. While Edward and his son managed to 'reconnect" at the end of the film, I wasn't satisfied as the Edward character never saw anything wrong in his behaviors.

I actually grew so impatient with the film that I got up halfway through, used the toilet, got a pretzel, ran into and talked with a friend. Maybe I should try it one more time, but I was just not impressed with this film.

confuse


this thread is about a movie eek
red hot like a chilli pepper
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Reply #23 posted 01/02/04 7:54am

endorphin74

blackcherry said:

endorphin74 said:

confuse

Hmm, I actually was quite disappointed in this movie. Maybe my expectations were too high. I thought it was visually a beautiful film. However, it was too long and I just didn't grow to care about anyone in the film.

Perhaps it comes down to a dislike for Edward Bloom. While Edward and his son managed to 'reconnect" at the end of the film, I wasn't satisfied as the Edward character never saw anything wrong in his behaviors.

I actually grew so impatient with the film that I got up halfway through, used the toilet, got a pretzel, ran into and talked with a friend. Maybe I should try it one more time, but I was just not impressed with this film.

confuse


this thread is about a movie eek



falloff

I know, right?

sorry to try and get it back on topic!

lol
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Reply #24 posted 01/02/04 7:58am

blackcherry

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endorphin74 said:

blackcherry said:

endorphin74 said:

confuse

Hmm, I actually was quite disappointed in this movie. Maybe my expectations were too high. I thought it was visually a beautiful film. However, it was too long and I just didn't grow to care about anyone in the film.

Perhaps it comes down to a dislike for Edward Bloom. While Edward and his son managed to 'reconnect" at the end of the film, I wasn't satisfied as the Edward character never saw anything wrong in his behaviors.

I actually grew so impatient with the film that I got up halfway through, used the toilet, got a pretzel, ran into and talked with a friend. Maybe I should try it one more time, but I was just not impressed with this film.

confuse


this thread is about a movie eek



falloff

I know, right?

sorry to try and get it back on topic!

lol


lol
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Reply #25 posted 01/02/04 8:56am

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Must see all Ewen McGregor movies. smile
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