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Printablerdhull said: jessyMD32781 said: rdhull said: jessyMD32781 said: rdhull said: jessyMD32781 said: matt said: jessyMD32781 said: matt said: Cats aren't responsible for their actions. People are. exactly, which is why people should think before they do things that might end up upsetting them in the long run. Especially if they're sensitive people in the first place. You have totally missed the point. Furthermore, your implication that Melissa did not think before we posted the "Statement of Love" thread is inaccurate.  yes sir. mod sir! seems like you've missed the point, or shall I say that you're "blinded by love".
[This message was edited Sun Dec 21 13:05:38 PST 2003 by jessyMD32781] I liked your pre edited response better lol..but nevertheless..be careful..cuidado... yeah, I'm gonna edit that. my last comment was out of line. Im not saying it was out of line..I just saying it's a a mod you are dealing with..a mod and his woman. I still think that my comment was out of line. Being in love is a good thing that shouldn't be mocked liked that. I do think, however, that this thread is a good reason why mods shouldn't date orgers unless they can be sure that they can keep things professional. It's like when a boss is sleeping with one of his employees. He can talk all he wants about how that employee isn't going to get "special treatment" but everyone knows that's not going to be true. While tackam may not have gotten any kind of special treatment before she left the org, she's certainly getting it now. This thread seems like nothing more than Matt scolding us for not liking that "statement of love" thread that the two of them started and not liking polyamory and making his girlfriend run away. She left on her own, no one held a gun to her head and said, "leave you polyamorous freak!" In fact, I don't think anyone even sees her that way. It sounds like most people liked her fine when she was here and are sincerely happy for the two of them. Mods don't do this when other people get upset about something and leave so I don't see why this mod is doing it now. This thread is just crazy. It should be locked. It should have never been created.And nobody mocked their love etc..they laughed/debated at his defensiveness..and he is/was defensive. And yeah..it was like the boss fucking one of the employees...and the employees' husband SQUAWWWK! :LOL: ...now "THATS" mocking  I know I shouldn't but that was funny. | |
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matt said: AaronAlmighty said: there are people who aren't going to like you or like what you have to say or your personality, or whatever, ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
And you think that's a license to do whatever the hell you want, and screw the consequences? Really, Aaron, I just don't understand why you feel the need to pretend to be a badass when you're online. no, matt. but just realize that if there's something in your life that your feelings are sensitive to, don't go telling the whole world about it without expecting some to look negatively upon you or judge you for it. "oPS i HITTED THE CAPDLOCK" | |
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jessyMD32781 said: This thread seems like nothing more than Matt scolding us for not liking that "statement of love" thread that the two of them started and not liking polyamory and making his girlfriend run away.
Straw man. I'm sorry you see it that way, because that wasn't the intent. As I said at the very beginning, "The following message reflects my views only. I am not writing in my capacity as a prince.org staff member." I may be a mod, but I'm also a member of this community, and I'll express my thoughts if and when I see fit. My post was intended as an expression of sadness and loss, and I know that other people here feel that her departure is a loss. I've said all along that I have not been bothered by the responses in both the original "Statement of Love" thread and the subsequent .org awards proceedings. I don't care whether you liked the thread or not. And nobody "made" Melissa leave--she's responsible for her own actions. Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position. |
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moderatormatt said: jessyMD32781 said: This thread seems like nothing more than Matt scolding us for not liking that "statement of love" thread that the two of them started and not liking polyamory and making his girlfriend run away.
Straw man. I'm sorry you see it that way, because that wasn't the intent. As I said at the very beginning, "The following message reflects my views only. I am not writing in my capacity as a prince.org staff member." I may be a mod, but I'm also a member of this community, and I'll express my thoughts if and when I see fit. . and when one of your beloved is effected thats when u seem to see fit to add into this community etc? all else that happens-ed be damned? . [This message was edited Sun Dec 21 14:51:14 PST 2003 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: And nobody mocked their love etc..they laughed/debated at his defensiveness..and he is/was defensive.
Methinks you're projecting. I make no apologies for my relationship with Melissa.Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position. |
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matt said: rdhull said: And nobody mocked their love etc..they laughed/debated at his defensiveness..and he is/was defensive.
Methinks you're projecting. I make no apologies for my relationship with Melissa.nevermind all the armchair psychotalk (please dont even try it)..but can u see what u can do about having a reviews section for art, lit, and film etc? "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: but can u see what u can do about having a reviews section for art, lit, and film etc?
Feel free to suggest it in the prince.org Site Discussion forum or contact Ben about it (alhough I think he's away on vacation right now). I personally think it might be interesting. However, I'm not sure that creating another forum is going to be a popular idea. Many people have suggested that we have too many forums as it is... that was one of the reasons why some folks opposed the Love, Sex, and Relationships forum. Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position. |
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matt said: jessyMD32781 said: This thread seems like nothing more than Matt scolding us for not liking that "statement of love" thread that the two of them started and not liking polyamory and making his girlfriend run away.
Straw man. I'm sorry you see it that way, because that wasn't the intent. As I said at the very beginning, "The following message reflects my views only. I am not writing in my capacity as a prince.org staff member." I may be a mod, but I'm also a member of this community, and I'll express my thoughts if and when I see fit. My post was intended as an expression of sadness and loss, and I know that other people here feel that her departure is a loss. I've said all along that I have not been bothered by the responses in both the original "Statement of Love" thread and the subsequent .org awards proceedings. I don't care whether you liked the thread or not. And nobody "made" Melissa leave--she's responsible for her own actions. duh, that's what i said in my post. "no one held a gun to her head..." try reading my post, matt. | |
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I, for one, will miss you, Melissa.  | |
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i have missed her for some time, as she was one of the orgers i was closest too, and she told me her participation in this place was going to be a lot less a few months ago.
i think the behavior i have seen on this site, and on the thread in question is some of the most childish behavior i have ever seen from adults. and i posted it in the original thread, and still have no qualms about it. i thought very seriously about pointing that out in the nominations thread how extremely cruel some of those nominations were, but knew if i did i would get torn a new one and mocked for being too sensitive, so i said nothing, and now i really wish i had. i think it is disgusting how some people act on this site. they come here and intentionally try to destroy the happiness of others, and it really is pathetic. why? because you are that severly insecure that you have to hide behind a computer screen and spit out hateful comments to tears others down so that you can can feel better about yourself? it's truly pathetic. so you don't agree with someone's life choice. great, but don't bloody well shit all over their happiness, it's a simple as that. if ya ain't got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. melissa has my yahoo id and aol id, so i know she is not out of my life. [This message was edited Mon Dec 22 7:29:30 PST 2003 by cborgman] Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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cborgman said: i have missed her for some time, as she was one of the orgers i was closest too, and she told me her participation in this place was going to be a lot less a few months ago.
i think the behavior i have seen on this site, and on the thread in question is some of the most childish behavior i have ever seen from adults. and i posted it in the original thread, and still have no qualms about it. i thought very seriously about pointing that out in the nominations thread how extremely cruel some of those nominations were, but knew if i did i would get torn a new one and mocked for being too sensitive, so i said nothing, and now i really wish i had. i think it is disgusting how some people act on this site. they come here and intentionally try to destroy the happiness of others, and it really is pathetic. why? because you are that severly insecure that you have to hide behind a computer screen and spit out hateful comments to tears others down so that you can can feel better about yourself? it's truly pathetic. so you don't agree with someone's life choice. great, but don't bloody well shit all over their happiness, it's a simple as that. if ya ain't got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. melissa has my yahoo id and aol id, so i know she is not out of my life. [This message was edited Mon Dec 22 7:29:30 PST 2003 by cborgman]  | |
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cborgman said: i have missed her for some time, as she was one of the orgers i was closest too, and she told me her participation in this place was going to be a lot less a few months ago.
i think the behavior i have seen on this site, and on the thread in question is some of the most childish behavior i have ever seen from adults. and i posted it in the original thread, and still have no qualms about it. i thought very seriously about pointing that out in the nominations thread how extremely cruel some of those nominations were, but knew if i did i would get torn a new one and mocked for being too sensitive, so i said nothing, and now i really wish i had. i think it is disgusting how some people act on this site. they come here and intentionally try to destroy the happiness of others, and it really is pathetic. why? because you are that severly insecure that you have to hide behind a computer screen and spit out hateful comments to tears others down so that you can can feel better about yourself? it's truly pathetic. so you don't agree with someone's life choice. great, but don't bloody well shit all over their happiness, it's a simple as that. if ya ain't got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. melissa has my yahoo id and aol id, so i know she is not out of my life. [This message was edited Mon Dec 22 7:29:30 PST 2003 by cborgman] [Flame snipped. --Matt] [This message was edited Mon Dec 22 8:11:04 PST 2003 by matt] I GOT YA, I GOT YA, I GOT YA PUNKASS! REPEAT | |
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Waaah waaah waaah. Orgers are the whiniest motherfuckers out there.
Can we lock this thread already? | |
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CtheUncanny said: cborgman said: i have missed her for some time, as she was one of the orgers i was closest too, and she told me her participation in this place was going to be a lot less a few months ago.
i think the behavior i have seen on this site, and on the thread in question is some of the most childish behavior i have ever seen from adults. and i posted it in the original thread, and still have no qualms about it. i thought very seriously about pointing that out in the nominations thread how extremely cruel some of those nominations were, but knew if i did i would get torn a new one and mocked for being too sensitive, so i said nothing, and now i really wish i had. i think it is disgusting how some people act on this site. they come here and intentionally try to destroy the happiness of others, and it really is pathetic. why? because you are that severly insecure that you have to hide behind a computer screen and spit out hateful comments to tears others down so that you can can feel better about yourself? it's truly pathetic. so you don't agree with someone's life choice. great, but don't bloody well shit all over their happiness, it's a simple as that. if ya ain't got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. melissa has my yahoo id and aol id, so i know she is not out of my life. [This message was edited Mon Dec 22 7:29:30 PST 2003 by cborgman] [Flame snipped. --Matt] [This message was edited Mon Dec 22 8:11:04 PST 2003 by matt]  [This message was edited Mon Dec 22 8:14:01 PST 2003 by cborgman] Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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CarrieLee said: Waaah waaah waaah. Orgers are the whiniest motherfuckers out there.
Can we lock this thread already? a bit whiny of you, don't you think? Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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CarrieLee said: Waaah waaah waaah. Orgers are the whiniest motherfuckers out there.
Can we lock this thread already? Why? If you don't like it, you don't have to read it. Please note: effective March 21, 2010, I've stepped down from my prince.org Moderator position. |
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cborgman said: CarrieLee said: Waaah waaah waaah. Orgers are the whiniest motherfuckers out there.
Can we lock this thread already? a bit whiny of you, don't you think? No, not at all 
Sorry if you thought that was for you...guilty conscience maybe?  | |
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CarrieLee said: cborgman said: CarrieLee said: Waaah waaah waaah. Orgers are the whiniest motherfuckers out there.
Can we lock this thread already? a bit whiny of you, don't you think? No, not at all
Sorry if you thought that was for you...guilty conscience maybe? no, i didn't think it was me at all, i just wanted to show you how massively hypocritical that statement was  Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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it does make me wonder what the intent and outcome of some of the comments here might be.
the majority of comments were along the lines of "Melissa shouldn't feel the way she does" - it's complicated to measure another person's sensitivities by your own standards. what doesn't faze me may very well upset another person deeply, and vice versa. and while disclosing information about yourself (whether that be political opinion, faith, location, lifestyle or whatever) DOES make you vulnerable in many ways, it seems that, at times, somebody who takes advantage of that vulnerability is being applauded, while the person opening up is being blamed for the results. a little bit of restraint from knee-jerk reactions goes a long way in these types of situations. sometimes, when i have a strong reaction to some information being presented, i write a response to get it out of my system, and use the "preview response" button - i find it an easy way to check my attitude and the constructiveness of my posts before hitting that "post response" button. the "cancel" function has probably saved my ass a million times, and has kept me from reacting too quickly and harshly. free speech is a wonderful thing, and if we use it wisely, it can be a powerful tool to make the org an even better place to be.  | |
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IAmTheTouch said: it does make me wonder what the intent and outcome of some of the comments here might be.
the majority of comments were along the lines of "Melissa shouldn't feel the way she does" - it's complicated to measure another person's sensitivities by your own standards. what doesn't faze me may very well upset another person deeply, and vice versa. and while disclosing information about yourself (whether that be political opinion, faith, location, lifestyle or whatever) DOES make you vulnerable in many ways, it seems that, at times, somebody who takes advantage of that vulnerability is being applauded, while the person opening up is being blamed for the results. a little bit of restraint from knee-jerk reactions goes a long way in these types of situations. sometimes, when i have a strong reaction to some information being presented, i write a response to get it out of my system, and use the "preview response" button - i find it an easy way to check my attitude and the constructiveness of my posts before hitting that "post response" button. the "cancel" function has probably saved my ass a million times, and has kept me from reacting too quickly and harshly. free speech is a wonderful thing, and if we use it wisely, it can be a powerful tool to make the org an even better place to be. Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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Very well said IAM..
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IAmTheTouch said: it does make me wonder what the intent and outcome of some of the comments here might be.
the majority of comments were along the lines of "Melissa shouldn't feel the way she does" - it's complicated to measure another person's sensitivities by your own standards. what doesn't faze me may very well upset another person deeply, and vice versa. and while disclosing information about yourself (whether that be political opinion, faith, location, lifestyle or whatever) DOES make you vulnerable in many ways, it seems that, at times, somebody who takes advantage of that vulnerability is being applauded, while the person opening up is being blamed for the results. a little bit of restraint from knee-jerk reactions goes a long way in these types of situations. sometimes, when i have a strong reaction to some information being presented, i write a response to get it out of my system, and use the "preview response" button - i find it an easy way to check my attitude and the constructiveness of my posts before hitting that "post response" button. the "cancel" function has probably saved my ass a million times, and has kept me from reacting too quickly and harshly. free speech is a wonderful thing, and if we use it wisely, it can be a powerful tool to make the org an even better place to be. 
It's too bad more people don't think like that. It's just like in jr.high, all those people that were jerks to easy targets probably never gave their words a second thought and most likely don't even REMEMBER the evil things they said. Those words stay with us sensitive-types forever. But, words can seem a lot harsher than they are when they are writen and read. So there are two sides to this coin. Someone once made a joke that really hurt me and I orgnoted her to ask what she meant. Turned out she was poking fun at herself and not me. So I'm glad I asked. I didn't want to waste my energy giving her the evil eye if she didn't deserve it, lol. | |
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cborgman said: CarrieLee said: Waaah waaah waaah. Orgers are the whiniest motherfuckers out there.
Can we lock this thread already? a bit whiny of you, don't you think?  WHINING RULES | |
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Anxiety said: cborgman said: CarrieLee said: Waaah waaah waaah. Orgers are the whiniest motherfuckers out there.
Can we lock this thread already? a bit whiny of you, don't you think? WHINING RULES 
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Damn!! I really really hate that people are leaving. I will miss Melissa, but do have her email so will continue contact. Girl, you gotta come back. You're an org staple!!!  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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And quite honestly, I'm surprised that she took personally peoples reactions to the Statement of Love thread. As many people who came out against it or reacted negatively to it, there were as many who showed their support. It's unfortunate she chose to focus on the negative rather than the positive...  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: What the fuck is all this shit?
 You took to words right out of my mouth EWM  . I have nothing against anyone having an unconventional relationship, but I have to say that my 15 year marriage to my high school sweetheart is looking mighty damn good after reading this thread. To each his own though - all the best to Matt and Tackham! | |
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CarrieLee said: Waaah waaah waaah. Orgers are the whiniest motherfuckers out there.
Can we lock this thread already?
this thread has been a very interesting thread...and thats all im gonna say about it!!  Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: this thread has been a very interesting thread...
Space for sale... | |
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rdhull said: Hey Matt instead of this stupid assed nonsense (since youre a mod ) why cant u get with Ben to create a damn reviews section forum for art, film, books etc. instead of making shit like a love and sex forum that is deemed such a pressing issue? Thanks.
No shit. Well said! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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