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Reply #30 posted 12/19/03 4:47pm

CarrieLee

matt said:

CarrieLee said:

I think she should just lighten up a bit and learn to say fuck it instead of having you post this thread Matt.


For the record, she didn't ask me to post this thread. I don't know whether she will ever read it. I did ask her for consent to me posting about her departure because I respect her privacy. But this thread is basically about my thoughts on her departure.



I kinda figured that...and that's cool. I just don't think she should care but then again I'm an Ice Queen lol Not much bothers me! Oh, except Soulpower...but let's not go there wink

Melissa girl, don't sweat it. There's more to life than the Org!
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Reply #31 posted 12/19/03 4:47pm

conch5184

that's sad. i wasn't aware and i had never read the "most embarrassing" thread or the statement of love but i've looked at the statement now and i think you two are both very sweet people. i don't know if i have that love in me to have that kind of relationship. i don't understand but i accept and wish all involved luck and joy and peace. hug
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Reply #32 posted 12/19/03 4:48pm

rdhull

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AnotherLoverToo said:

XxAxX said:


rd ya big boobie. i know you were trying to just be funny and clowning around with the nomination thread (btw you're June7??)


omg RD!!! First Freespirit thinks you're me, now XxAxX thinks you're June7!!!
[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 16:47:05 PST 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]

lol I thought I was bad with all the "this person is..." lol
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #33 posted 12/19/03 4:49pm

CarrieLee

Oh, and change the title of this thread. I thought the girl friggin died!
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Reply #34 posted 12/19/03 4:49pm

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Oh, and change the title of this thread. I thought the girl friggin died!


You're right. eek Consider it changed.
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Reply #35 posted 12/19/03 4:53pm

XxAxX

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rdhull said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

XxAxX said:


rd ya big boobie. i know you were trying to just be funny and clowning around with the nomination thread (btw you're June7??)


omg RD!!! First Freespirit thinks you're me, now XxAxX thinks you're June7!!!
[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 16:47:05 PST 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]

lol I thought I was bad with all the "this person is..." lol



rd sweetie i posted that about hiatus because i though melissa was helping run the joint, like an ORG god. you know, dusting off the servers and stuff. that's why i asked her to not walk away. also, because it seems like her feelings are really hurt. she can go if she really wants to, but maybe she'll change her mind. i seem to remember you stompin off in a huff a while back wink

btw how many later egos do you have and what's their names??? mind my asking?
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Reply #36 posted 12/19/03 4:55pm

katt

People are hurting they got a right to say how they feel and should respect this. We should think ourselves so lucky the people who run this site and the moderators give this site for free along with there time. They could easy pull the plug and that will be the end off it all.

Yeah i don’t like how the org has turned out it used to be one off the most respected sites around in the Prince Community now it is not, what people forget that real people are posting and they have real feelings too, ok I’m sappy I like people getting on I see no need in wasting my energy having to fight with someone or put someone down but some get off on it so I understand why some feel so hurt over certain issues.

Time will tell how the org will turn out, time will tell if we can converse with each other respectfully, who knows, flame me if you want cause not matter what i’m still gonna try and get on with you, so nana

bed for me i’m waffling now dancing jig
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Reply #37 posted 12/19/03 4:56pm

rdhull

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XxAxX said:

rdhull said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

XxAxX said:


rd ya big boobie. i know you were trying to just be funny and clowning around with the nomination thread (btw you're June7??)


omg RD!!! First Freespirit thinks you're me, now XxAxX thinks you're June7!!!
[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 16:47:05 PST 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]

lol I thought I was bad with all the "this person is..." lol



rd sweetie i posted that about hiatus because i though melissa was helping run the joint, like an ORG god. you know, dusting off the servers and stuff. that's why i asked her to not walk away. also, because it seems like her feelings are really hurt. she can go if she really wants to, but maybe she'll change her mind. i seem to remember you stompin off in a huff a while back wink

btw how many later egos do you have and what's their names??? mind my asking?
[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 16:55:44 PST 2003 by XxAxX]

I have one other screen name and his name is gazoo(lookit me actin like he is a real person lol)--and I have admnitted to that over and over
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #38 posted 12/19/03 4:58pm

rdhull

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katt said:

People are hurting they got a right to say how they feel and should respect this. We should think ourselves so lucky the people who run this site and the moderators give this site for free along with there time. They could easy pull the plug and that will be the end off it all.

Yeah i don’t like how the org has turned out it used to be one off the most respected sites around in the Prince Community now it is not, what people forget that real people are posting and they have real feelings too, ok I’m sappy I like people getting on I see no need in wasting my energy having to fight with someone or put someone down but some get off on it so I understand why some feel so hurt over certain issues.

Time will tell how the org will turn out, time will tell if we can converse with each other respectfully, who knows, flame me if you want cause not matter what i’m still gonna try and get on with you, so nana

bed for me i’m waffling now dancing jig


I feel u wholeheartedly..its just that I and we have all been trhgough a lot in this joinbt and Im jaded..and I deserve to have the right to be as well for we all have had some hurts here etc...but nobody gave a damn about others hurts...ya dig?
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #39 posted 12/19/03 5:02pm

XxAxX

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rdhull said:

XxAxX said:

rdhull said:

AnotherLoverToo said:

XxAxX said:


rd ya big boobie. i know you were trying to just be funny and clowning around with the nomination thread (btw you're June7??)


omg RD!!! First Freespirit thinks you're me, now XxAxX thinks you're June7!!!
[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 16:47:05 PST 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]

lol I thought I was bad with all the "this person is..." lol



rd sweetie i posted that about hiatus because i though melissa was helping run the joint, like an ORG god. you know, dusting off the servers and stuff. that's why i asked her to not walk away. also, because it seems like her feelings are really hurt. she can go if she really wants to, but maybe she'll change her mind. i seem to remember you stompin off in a huff a while back wink

btw how many later egos do you have and what's their names??? mind my asking?
[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 16:55:44 PST 2003 by XxAxX]

I have one other screen name and his name is gazoo(lookit me actin like he is a real person lol)--and I have admnitted to that over and over



rd i missed those threads... gazoo huh? and i'm sorry people get hurt in here. it does kind of get rough at times. that's true. it's too easy to objectify people on the internet
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Reply #40 posted 12/19/03 5:03pm

katt

rdhull said:

katt said:

People are hurting they got a right to say how they feel and should respect this. We should think ourselves so lucky the people who run this site and the moderators give this site for free along with there time. They could easy pull the plug and that will be the end off it all.

Yeah i don’t like how the org has turned out it used to be one off the most respected sites around in the Prince Community now it is not, what people forget that real people are posting and they have real feelings too, ok I’m sappy I like people getting on I see no need in wasting my energy having to fight with someone or put someone down but some get off on it so I understand why some feel so hurt over certain issues.

Time will tell how the org will turn out, time will tell if we can converse with each other respectfully, who knows, flame me if you want cause not matter what i’m still gonna try and get on with you, so nana

bed for me i’m waffling now dancing jig


I feel u wholeheartedly..its just that I and we have all been trhgough a lot in this joinbt and Im jaded..and I deserve to have the right to be as well for we all have had some hurts here etc...but nobody gave a damn about others hurts...ya dig?


I care 2 much rd always have hug We goto stop hurting each other one way or the other.

heart 2 u smile

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[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 17:08:56 PST 2003 by katt]
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Reply #41 posted 12/19/03 5:14pm

XxAxX

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rdhull said:

XxAxX said:

rdhull said:

Wait a minute...yall posted that thread and were all stickin your mutual chest out with an I dont care stance of what the reactions were going to be? And now miss melissa is dismayed or disappointed how not everyone "got it"? You people SLAY THE FUCK OUTTA ME. All u did was act brave and themn find out you are wishy washy

and the exodus has been by and large happening long before you two got your feelings hurt...but since those matters of why did not effect you, you probably made no notice of it

as for th atmosphere of the negative communication..well that started long ago an nobody did or said anything about it and now that its so endemic of the joint, you cry about it..what kind of people are you? seriously. Fucking get a clue or stop crying in your goddamn beer.

And for the record...I had no problem with yo statement of love evne thogh I clowned..I mean yall go on withcha bad s elves..do what feels righjt and what feels good..I salte yall on that

and for the second point--anything I say to anybody here I would, and will, and have said to their face.

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[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 16:14:54 PST 2003 by rdhull]



rd ya big boobie. i know you were trying to just be funny and clowning around with the nomination thread (btw you're June7??) but even though what you say is true about the negativity in here you're pointing that finger at the wrong folx.

the negativity isn't caused by the ORG, i do believe it's caused by the world's situation. the ORG is a kind of microcosm of the world, not a macrocosm of our souls. and right now i know i'm stressed about political issues and social issues. the government's agenda. that overflows into here and when the issues come up i get heated at times.

but i don't think the ORG is an 'evil' place. i think the ORG's changed since the new format, but the reason imo is because the new format allows new topics to be created by members more or less at whim. the old system had a 'pre-screening' by the ORG gods. the digest consisted of send-in tidbits. so now we have tons of threads, it's all interesting but it's totally impossible to read them all... and still have a *real* life lol

anyway if there's anything 'wrong' with the ORG i just think we members tend to use it as a sounding board about anything from underwear to race and it gets chaotic like being in a room consisting of international personality with everyone talking all at once.

that's my take on the reason why and how the ORG has changed. but i see it more as evolving and this is a phase, not that the ORG is a 'negative' place.

although, if i were prince i might not like it here so much because people always lampoon him


I agree with partly

but the org is a CONTINUUM...it will never be like v1..that merged into v2..which merged into the first 2 months of newness and craziness...then merged into things getting settled...then my big mouf came...then the surge with more new ones but alliances...then the politics...then the race...then the focus on p music...etc...all to the tune of the ever changing moods and time as well as tides...it is not stagnanat and no othe r wensite is either...weve lost a lot of folks during th e v2 and we will lose a lot more and some soon and we will gain mor eas well...it is an ever evolving phenomena these websites...just as if it were th e real world becaue their are real people behind thes crazy assed avatars



that's true. and i think the medium of the internet tends to lend the very element which allows us to be unkind, more easily. a kind of matrix, wireless, telephony, satellites, tracking tags etc. all that lets us be 'closer' in a way, yet separates us. it's a weirdness that penetrates onto here. i don't know if it's that we're negatively inclined or if the separation causes anonymity/objectification of other people's feelings.
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Reply #42 posted 12/19/03 5:17pm

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also, and please don't take this wrong cuase i seem to rmember you and i don't agree re: TRC but i still think that prince's recent work has been truly 'controversial' and has raised issues not addressed in this forum as intensively. prince's lyrics not to mention prince himself are changing with the times as well and this has provoked responses from members, tending to divide them between 'this' and 'that'.
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Reply #43 posted 12/19/03 5:40pm

katt

XxAxX said:

also, and please don't take this wrong cuase i seem to rmember you and i don't agree re: TRC but i still think that prince's recent work has been truly 'controversial' and has raised issues not addressed in this forum as intensively. prince's lyrics not to mention prince himself are changing with the times as well and this has provoked responses from members, tending to divide them between 'this' and 'that'.


No division need be just let the music do the talking bypass the words if you don’t like and listen to the instruments flow. Controversy should be Prince’s first name; he has always been this way. Let him do his thing the way he always has, that’s why many of us have stayed around on this rollercoaster ride and not many of us have got off.
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Reply #44 posted 12/19/03 5:48pm

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You have to wonder will this place ever get any better? Or is this as good as it gets now? One thing i do agree on is that 90+ percent of the people on here would have a much different attitude if they met someone face to face.
The comfort of a computer screen makes pussies think they have balls (when the only ones they have swing from their chin).
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Reply #45 posted 12/19/03 5:51pm

XxAxX

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katt said:

XxAxX said:

also, and please don't take this wrong cuase i seem to rmember you and i don't agree re: TRC but i still think that prince's recent work has been truly 'controversial' and has raised issues not addressed in this forum as intensively. prince's lyrics not to mention prince himself are changing with the times as well and this has provoked responses from members, tending to divide them between 'this' and 'that'.


No division need be just let the music do the talking bypass the words if you don’t like and listen to the instruments flow. Controversy should be Prince’s first name; he has always been this way. Let him do his thing the way he always has, that’s why many of us have stayed around on this rollercoaster ride and not many of us have got off.

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i never have trouble dancing to prince, on a dance floor where the lyrics are muddied by the inevitable acoustic conflicts but when i'm riding in my car listening sometimes the lyrics interfere with my enjoyment because i disagree with some. i'm not saying i don't respect his right to chaneg, just that his new direction has made the rollercoaster ride a bit bumpier. and because this is a prince site some of the more heated discussion tends to be about the different direction he's going in lately and the way he expresses his ideas about that. just my opinion
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Reply #46 posted 12/19/03 5:53pm

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Hummm a few thought on the issue.

1) I can understand how some people can label you and Melissa (tackam) as swingers or being in the relationship just for sex. Its a good rule of thumb to remember that in general people are lazy and stoopid. It is pounded into everyones head from day 1 that marriage is a concept that is between a man and a woman and no one else. Bring a 3rd or 4th or 5th party into it can confuse some peoples idea of what a marriage is. The point is that no one can make you happy; only Matt can make Matt happy. If being with someone else helps you along the path towards happiness, then so be it. This is the 21st century however not everyone is living in it. If you and Melissa are happy together, then IM happy for you guys. There are way too many people out there that are in unhappy relationships and cannot or will not do anything about it. (Those of you reading this know who you are). What you 2 do is up to you and Melissa and no one else. I question your reasons (and sound judgement) for bring up the issue on the org because what the mindless meatheads of the org think is not important. If she makes you happy, and you make her happy then go for it. People will always talk about something, but as long as the 2 of you are happy together then the talk is meaningless. If you guys want to have an orgy with barnyard animals then go for it. Let no one else`s opinion of you come into play when your trying to make each other happy.


2) Now as to the slide of the org further and further down the toilet of the internet; in a nutshell the problem is multi-sided and fixing one part will not fix the whole machine. I think that a start in the right direction would be to get rid of all the GD forums (politics & religion, and the sex one) because that is where a majority of the problems lie. The bottom line is that this is PRINCE.org and not a CNN world events board. Ive noticed that a majority of the thread locking happens in the P&R forum. Closing it for good would be a start. Furthermore any thread that is created that doesn`t involve or is directly related to P. should be locked. IM not suggesting that we turn this place into the NPGMC because we are entitled to our individual opinions and views. However I fail to see how a thread about "GIving a rimjob" or "Why Bush is the Devil" has anything to do with Prince. Some people will bitch and cry and pout; however if they don`t like it they can start their own web site. We have lost a lot of good orgers this summer (Pook & Icenine & Moonbeam to name a few) because of some of the rampant BULLSHIT that happens here at the org. Why Why Why???


3) I love Sheila E`s Tits. I had to say that.
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Reply #47 posted 12/19/03 5:53pm

Lleena

This is my opinion.

Matt,

I was surprised to see you and Melissa sharing your personal life with the Org, to the extent that you would post a thread about it and invite questions from everyone. I'm sure you knew that an unorthodox relationship such as yours was bound to illicit some negative feedback. I think that your relationship seems to be a very loving one but which should have been kept private. Is it really any of our business how you guys live your lives? NO. Now that thread has been voted for as most embarassing when it shouldn't have even existed.

I am sorry Melissa has left, she seems like a very intelligent. articulate and warm person. I hope that she takes some fond memories with her. Good luck and take care.
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Reply #48 posted 12/19/03 5:56pm

2the9s

rdhull? Will you marry me? rose

There I said it. That's how I feel.
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Reply #49 posted 12/19/03 6:05pm

AnotherLoverTo
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rdhull? Will you marry me? rose

There I said it. That's how I feel.


I nominate this post as the "Most Gay PolyAmorist Post"
[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 18:06:30 PST 2003 by AnotherLoverToo]
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Reply #50 posted 12/19/03 6:12pm

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Lleena said:

I was surprised to see you and Melissa sharing your personal life with the Org, to the extent that you would post a thread about it and invite questions from everyone. I'm sure you knew that an unorthodox relationship such as yours was bound to illicit some negative feedback. I think that your relationship seems to be a very loving one but which should have been kept private. Is it really any of our business how you guys live your lives? NO. Now that thread has been voted for as most embarassing when it shouldn't have even existed.


sigh

"Yeah, I don't mind gays, as long as they keep it to themselves. Why do they have to be so blatant about it?"

If we were a monogamous couple, would you expect us to remain closeted about our relationship?

Anyway, yes, I expected negative feedback, and I personally was not offended by it.
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Reply #51 posted 12/19/03 6:21pm

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[Flame directed at another poster deleted. --Matt]
[This message was edited Fri Dec 19 18:30:19 PST 2003 by matt]
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Reply #52 posted 12/19/03 6:24pm

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i still feel sorry for melissa. i wish she'd reconsider leaving. imo the nomination thread is kinda double edged. whether or not the 'statement' thread was appropriately aired on the ORG is one thing, whether xhe should be roasted for it is another issue.

i been spending less time here lately so i missed a lot of the drama about the moderator issues however, i sense that the alliances forming on this thread are related to that, right? people mad because someone's thread was locked? and another person's thread not locked?

i'm with the ORG gods. it's their site. all bow before the gods of the ORG. anyway, if i complained about how it was being done, i'd have to actually devote time and volunteer for the job, see if *i* could do it better. and, i doubt i'd enjoy that chore.
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Reply #53 posted 12/19/03 6:29pm

Handclapsfinga
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life goes on.
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Reply #54 posted 12/19/03 6:32pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

life goes on.



falloff...

i wish i knew why that was so damn funny... i'm seriously literally laughing my ass off right now... ok, maybe not literally, but i'm laughing hysterically over here...
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Reply #55 posted 12/19/03 6:38pm

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matt said:

Lleena said:

I was surprised to see you and Melissa sharing your personal life with the Org, to the extent that you would post a thread about it and invite questions from everyone. I'm sure you knew that an unorthodox relationship such as yours was bound to illicit some negative feedback. I think that your relationship seems to be a very loving one but which should have been kept private. Is it really any of our business how you guys live your lives? NO. Now that thread has been voted for as most embarassing when it shouldn't have even existed.


sigh

"Yeah, I don't mind gays, as long as they keep it to themselves. Why do they have to be so blatant about it?"

If we were a monogamous couple, would you expect us to remain closeted about our relationship?


YES. Just as when Azure Star and Ice Nine were doing their thing and posting it all over the damn place, I felt like I was getting too much information about you and Melissa. It was easy enough to avoid, but when I did hear about it I always felt like it would have been better if it wasn;t there at all.
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Reply #56 posted 12/19/03 6:40pm

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YES. Just as when Azure Star and Ice Nine were doing their thing and posting it all over the damn place, I felt like I was getting too much information about you and Melissa. It was easy enough to avoid, but when I did hear about it I always felt like it would have been better if it wasn;t there at all.


shrug I'll give you credit: at least you're consistent.
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Reply #57 posted 12/19/03 6:42pm

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jessyMD32781 said:

matt said:

Lleena said:

I was surprised to see you and Melissa sharing your personal life with the Org, to the extent that you would post a thread about it and invite questions from everyone. I'm sure you knew that an unorthodox relationship such as yours was bound to illicit some negative feedback. I think that your relationship seems to be a very loving one but which should have been kept private. Is it really any of our business how you guys live your lives? NO. Now that thread has been voted for as most embarassing when it shouldn't have even existed.


sigh

"Yeah, I don't mind gays, as long as they keep it to themselves. Why do they have to be so blatant about it?"

If we were a monogamous couple, would you expect us to remain closeted about our relationship?


YES. Just as when Azure Star and Ice Nine were doing their thing and posting it all over the damn place, I felt like I was getting too much information about you and Melissa. It was easy enough to avoid, but when I did hear about it I always felt like it would have been better if it wasn;t there at all.


nod Personal life should be kept PERSONAL. It just screams of the i need attention, please look at me syndrome. If you put it out there don't be upset at what comes back.
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Reply #58 posted 12/19/03 6:44pm

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CtheUncanny said:

jessyMD32781 said:

matt said:

Lleena said:

I was surprised to see you and Melissa sharing your personal life with the Org, to the extent that you would post a thread about it and invite questions from everyone. I'm sure you knew that an unorthodox relationship such as yours was bound to illicit some negative feedback. I think that your relationship seems to be a very loving one but which should have been kept private. Is it really any of our business how you guys live your lives? NO. Now that thread has been voted for as most embarassing when it shouldn't have even existed.


sigh

"Yeah, I don't mind gays, as long as they keep it to themselves. Why do they have to be so blatant about it?"

If we were a monogamous couple, would you expect us to remain closeted about our relationship?


YES. Just as when Azure Star and Ice Nine were doing their thing and posting it all over the damn place, I felt like I was getting too much information about you and Melissa. It was easy enough to avoid, but when I did hear about it I always felt like it would have been better if it wasn;t there at all.


nod Personal life should be kept PERSONAL. It just screams of the i need attention, please look at me syndrome. If you put it out there don't be upset at what comes back.

seriously. tell it like it is...
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Reply #59 posted 12/19/03 6:46pm

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CtheUncanny said:

nod Personal life should be kept PERSONAL.


Where do you draw the line? Should we not discuss anything regarding our lives? Should we not have a profile feature that allows users to provide information about themselves?

Two .orgers are in love with one another. Yeah, that's pretty personal information there.
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