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Thread started 12/17/03 6:02am

holymoses54

Taxi Driver (1976) ----> The best film of all times...

After watching this movie, John Hinckley went out and tried to kill Ronald Reagan. This would indicate that "Taxi Driver" is a worthwhile movie. In more basic terms, however, the reason this is such a good movie is because it shows how close the categories of "hero" and "psychopath" are, and indeed, how close these categories are to normal life. Travis(Robert De Niro) is a young, lonely, slightly obsessive taxi driver, who displays in the course of the movie, the two main male passions - sexual love and fatherly love. The first of these is directed towards a young professional, Betsy(Cybil Shepherd), a campaign worker for a Presidential candidate; the second towards a child prostitute, Iris acted by Jodie Foster. the first of these passions brings him into fleeting contact with the cold aloof world of US politics characterized by empty sloganeering and an absence of policies. By actually meeting the candidate, Palatine in his cab, Travis begins to instinctively realize the connection between the messed up New York streets with their pushers and prostitutes and the opportunism and cynicism of those who defile their responsibility. After being misunderstood and rejected by Betsy, these vague political misgivings crystallize around his dented male pride and lead him to plot the assassination of Palatine. As he prepares himself for this, however, his paternal feelings are aroused by the plight of Iris, the child prostitute, whom he resolves to rescue. Already living on the edge, he decides that the best way to do this is by killing her pimp. In his mind these two goals become almost identical. Killing the apathetic. patronizing politician, who is socially or politically responsible, and the pimp, who is individually responsible for the abominations of modern city life, like child prostitution, have little to separate them. Indeed, only the candidate's security guards make the difference. Foiled in his first attempt, it is only the second of these goals that he manages to accomplish. Ironically, the courage that would have had him damned as a sociopath in the first case, allows him to become a hero in the second. This film raises the question: Is someone who takes a gun and tries to blow away a President or one of the other fakirs of the frenetic passivity of ungovernment, a hero? The answer is probably yes.
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Reply #1 posted 12/17/03 6:12am

DavidEye

I have this movie on VHS,but I still don't get why so many people love it so much.I guess I'll have to watch it a few more times,because I think I'm missing something.
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Reply #2 posted 12/17/03 6:13am

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Good film : Yes!!
Best Film : Don't know about that.
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Reply #3 posted 12/17/03 6:14am

holymoses54

DavidEye said:

I have this movie on VHS,but I still don't get why so many people love it so much.I guess I'll have to watch it a few more times,because I think I'm missing something.


I have watched it 50 times...
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Reply #4 posted 12/17/03 6:22am

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It was decent. Not the best though.

The best film of all times was The Exorcist. Or maybe Scarface.
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Reply #5 posted 12/17/03 6:26am

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coqui said:

It was decent. Not the best though.



Co-sign this...

The best film of all times was The Exorcist. Or maybe Scarface.



But I've seen Scarface and still can't gather why folks think this movie is the best of all time. I enjoyed it but didn't see the 'greatness' of it. Eh well, to each his own. biggrin
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Reply #6 posted 12/17/03 6:37am

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summerdawn said:



But I've seen Scarface and still can't gather why folks think this movie is the best of all time. I enjoyed it but didn't see the 'greatness' of it. Eh well, to each his own. biggrin



I believe the reason is simple:
The Badass Factor. Tony Montana is one of the best badasses ever put on film. For that reason, men love this movie. smile
Seriously though, the character development is second to none in my opinion which adds to said "Badass Factor". I get so deep in the film just waiting for Tony Montana to become even more of a badass.

The story is pretty good too. smile
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Reply #7 posted 12/17/03 6:53am

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The movie IS awesome...but, not the best, IMO
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Reply #8 posted 12/17/03 6:59am

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coqui said:


The Badass Factor. Tony Montana is one of the best badasses ever put on film. For that reason, men love this movie. smile
Seriously though, the character development is second to none in my opinion which adds to said "Badass Factor". I get so deep in the film just waiting for Tony Montana to become even more of a badass.

The story is pretty good too. smile


lol Point taken. I'll give you the 'Badass Factor'...Tony is mos def a badass.
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Reply #9 posted 12/17/03 7:29am

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It's a matter of taste. Taxi Driver never really appealed to me. My personal favorite is "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back" nod
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Reply #10 posted 12/17/03 9:31am

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Definitly in the running for ONE of the greatest films of all time.Paul Schraeder/Martin Scorsese are always a winning combination(Raging Bull,Last Temptation of Christ).

Taxi Driver really paints a realistic portrait on the anti-hero and redifined urban cinema.
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Reply #11 posted 12/17/03 9:50am

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Best film imho is Memento (2000). Maybe because after several times watching it I still don't know whether he was framed or not...
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Reply #12 posted 12/17/03 2:22pm

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i have watched it about 8 times.

I'd say the best movie would have to be...

"A Nightmare On Elm Street"


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Reply #13 posted 12/17/03 2:35pm

MrLovesexy

U talkin 2 me?? Film was a trippy strange with De Niro playing the roll so well as he does many...as if he's truly that character.
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Reply #14 posted 12/17/03 3:01pm

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scififilmnerd said:

It's a matter of taste. Taxi Driver never really appealed to me. My personal favorite is "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back" nod


Me too! big grin
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Reply #15 posted 12/17/03 3:05pm

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I don't even think it's Scorsese's best. But it's a good movie.
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Reply #16 posted 12/17/03 3:41pm

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silentflute said:

Definitly in the running for ONE of the greatest films of all time.Paul Schraeder/Martin Scorsese are always a winning combination(Raging Bull,Last Temptation of Christ).

Taxi Driver really paints a realistic portrait on the anti-hero and redifined urban cinema.

I agree. nod

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Reply #17 posted 12/18/03 12:19am

holymoses54

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Reply #18 posted 12/18/03 3:06am

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roverlo said:

Best film imho is Memento (2000). Maybe because after several times watching it I still don't know whether he was framed or not...

Memento...?
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Reply #19 posted 12/18/03 3:17am

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no way! I even like Scorsese´s "Goodfellas" or "After Hours" better than "Taxi Driver"

It is a very good film though
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Reply #20 posted 12/18/03 3:19am

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holymoses54 said:

roverlo said:

Best film imho is Memento (2000). Maybe because after several times watching it I still don't know whether he was framed or not...

Memento...?



You've never seen Memento?

Put down the Italian gangster flicks and broaden your horizons a bit. smile
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Reply #21 posted 12/18/03 10:23am

holymoses54

coqui said:

holymoses54 said:

roverlo said:

Best film imho is Memento (2000). Maybe because after several times watching it I still don't know whether he was framed or not...

Memento...?



You've never seen Memento?

Put down the Italian gangster flicks and broaden your horizons a bit. smile


I have seen Memento ...i dont see the big deal in editing a movie backwards...tried the same for Irreversible...but...the story is dull ...when you first see it ...you think ...wow thats brilliant...but then you see it again...and your slightly disapinted...and when you see it again...you realy feel cheated...and to answer your question ...it dont realy matter if he was framed or not...
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Reply #22 posted 12/20/03 11:45pm

holymoses54

holymoses54 said:

After watching this movie, John Hinckley went out and tried to kill Ronald Reagan. This would indicate that "Taxi Driver" is a worthwhile movie. In more basic terms, however, the reason this is such a good movie is because it shows how close the categories of "hero" and "psychopath" are, and indeed, how close these categories are to normal life. Travis(Robert De Niro) is a young, lonely, slightly obsessive taxi driver, who displays in the course of the movie, the two main male passions - sexual love and fatherly love. The first of these is directed towards a young professional, Betsy(Cybil Shepherd), a campaign worker for a Presidential candidate; the second towards a child prostitute, Iris acted by Jodie Foster. the first of these passions brings him into fleeting contact with the cold aloof world of US politics characterized by empty sloganeering and an absence of policies. By actually meeting the candidate, Palatine in his cab, Travis begins to instinctively realize the connection between the messed up New York streets with their pushers and prostitutes and the opportunism and cynicism of those who defile their responsibility. After being misunderstood and rejected by Betsy, these vague political misgivings crystallize around his dented male pride and lead him to plot the assassination of Palatine. As he prepares himself for this, however, his paternal feelings are aroused by the plight of Iris, the child prostitute, whom he resolves to rescue. Already living on the edge, he decides that the best way to do this is by killing her pimp. In his mind these two goals become almost identical. Killing the apathetic. patronizing politician, who is socially or politically responsible, and the pimp, who is individually responsible for the abominations of modern city life, like child prostitution, have little to separate them. Indeed, only the candidate's security guards make the difference. Foiled in his first attempt, it is only the second of these goals that he manages to accomplish. Ironically, the courage that would have had him damned as a sociopath in the first case, allows him to become a hero in the second. This film raises the question: Is someone who takes a gun and tries to blow away a President or one of the other fakirs of the frenetic passivity of ungovernment, a hero? The answer is probably yes.
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Reply #23 posted 12/22/03 4:58am

PanthaGirl

DE NIRO IS OUTSTANDING IN TAXI DRIVER, AS PER USUAL WITH ALL HIS ACTING ROLES. I DON'T CONSIDER IT TO BE THE BEST FILM OF ALL TIMES, BUT AMONGST MY FAVS FOR THERE IS MUCH COMPETITION OUT THERE AND SO MANY GENRES.

OTHER FAVS, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, WOULD HAVE TO BE:

APOCALYPSE NOW
FULL METAL JACKET
CLOCKWORK ORANGE
RUN LOLA RUN
SCARFACE
THE CRYING GAME
BEN HUR
ON THE WATERFRONT
BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ
THE BIG BLUE
CASINO
GOODFELLAS
HEAT
GODFATHER I, II, III

AND WAY TOO MANY MORE TO MENTION...
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Reply #24 posted 12/22/03 7:47am

holymoses54

PanthaGirl said:

DE NIRO IS OUTSTANDING IN TAXI DRIVER, AS PER USUAL WITH ALL HIS ACTING ROLES. I DON'T CONSIDER IT TO BE THE BEST FILM OF ALL TIMES, BUT AMONGST MY FAVS FOR THERE IS MUCH COMPETITION OUT THERE AND SO MANY GENRES.

OTHER FAVS, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, WOULD HAVE TO BE:

APOCALYPSE NOW
FULL METAL JACKET
CLOCKWORK ORANGE
RUN LOLA RUN
SCARFACE
THE CRYING GAME
BEN HUR
ON THE WATERFRONT
BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ
THE BIG BLUE
CASINO
GOODFELLAS
HEAT
GODFATHER I, II, III

AND WAY TOO MANY MORE TO MENTION...

thumbs up!
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Reply #25 posted 12/22/03 10:20am

holymoses54

holymoses54 said:

PanthaGirl said:

DE NIRO IS OUTSTANDING IN TAXI DRIVER, AS PER USUAL WITH ALL HIS ACTING ROLES. I DON'T CONSIDER IT TO BE THE BEST FILM OF ALL TIMES, BUT AMONGST MY FAVS FOR THERE IS MUCH COMPETITION OUT THERE AND SO MANY GENRES.

OTHER FAVS, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, WOULD HAVE TO BE:

APOCALYPSE NOW
FULL METAL JACKET
CLOCKWORK ORANGE
RUN LOLA RUN
SCARFACE
THE CRYING GAME
BEN HUR
ON THE WATERFRONT
BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ
THE BIG BLUE
CASINO
GOODFELLAS
HEAT
GODFATHER I, II, III

AND WAY TOO MANY MORE TO MENTION...

thumbs up!



What about "Raging Bull"
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Reply #26 posted 12/26/03 6:53pm

PanthaGirl

holymoses54 said:

holymoses54 said:

PanthaGirl said:

DE NIRO IS OUTSTANDING IN TAXI DRIVER, AS PER USUAL WITH ALL HIS ACTING ROLES. I DON'T CONSIDER IT TO BE THE BEST FILM OF ALL TIMES, BUT AMONGST MY FAVS FOR THERE IS MUCH COMPETITION OUT THERE AND SO MANY GENRES.

OTHER FAVS, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, WOULD HAVE TO BE:

APOCALYPSE NOW
FULL METAL JACKET
CLOCKWORK ORANGE
RUN LOLA RUN
SCARFACE
THE CRYING GAME
BEN HUR
ON THE WATERFRONT
BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ
THE BIG BLUE
CASINO
GOODFELLAS
HEAT
GODFATHER I, II, III

AND WAY TOO MANY MORE TO MENTION...

thumbs up!



What about "Raging Bull"


TOO RIGHT, I'VE INCLUDED IT BELOW ALONG WITH A FEW OTHERS I REMEMBERED:

RAGING BULL
DEER HUNTER
UNFORGIVEN
BRAVEHEART
MIDNIGHT COWBOY
DEAD MAN
PLANET OF THE APES (ALL FIVE PARTS)
REQUIEM FOR A DREAM

[This message was edited Sat Jan 3 21:02:24 PST 2004 by PanthaGirl]
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Reply #27 posted 12/28/03 12:11am

holymoses54

PanthaGirl said:

holymoses54 said:

holymoses54 said:

PanthaGirl said:

DE NIRO IS OUTSTANDING IN TAXI DRIVER, AS PER USUAL WITH ALL HIS ACTING ROLES. I DON'T CONSIDER IT TO BE THE BEST FILM OF ALL TIMES, BUT AMONGST MY FAVS FOR THERE IS MUCH COMPETITION OUT THERE AND SO MANY GENRES.

OTHER FAVS, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, WOULD HAVE TO BE:

APOCALYPSE NOW
FULL METAL JACKET
CLOCKWORK ORANGE
RUN LOLA RUN
SCARFACE
THE CRYING GAME
BEN HUR
ON THE WATERFRONT
BIRDMAN OF ALCATRAZ
THE BIG BLUE
CASINO
GOODFELLAS
HEAT
GODFATHER I, II, III

AND WAY TOO MANY MORE TO MENTION...

thumbs up!



What about "Raging Bull"


TOO RIGHT U R, I'VE INCLUDED IT BELOW ALONG WITH A FEW OTHERS I REMEMBERED:

RAGING BULL
DEER HUNTER
UNFORGIVEN
BRAVEHEART
MIDNIGHT COWBOY
DEAD MAN
PLANET OF THE APES (ALL FIVE PARTS)




I love all your choices except for Braveheart...I think Mel Gibson did a poor job on recaping the facts...
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Reply #28 posted 12/28/03 6:24am

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holymoses54 said:

'Taxi Driver (1976) ---> The best film of all times...'

Amazing movie yes... And IMO one that should be watched at least twice a year... But not the best, that would be "Brazil"...

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Reply #29 posted 12/28/03 6:45am

Number23

holymoses54 said:

After watching this movie, John Hinckley went out and tried to kill Ronald Reagan. This would indicate that "Taxi Driver" is a worthwhile movie.


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