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Thread started 12/13/03 3:27pm

TRON

Last night I had a dream that IstenSzek was a famous Native American author and I was proofreading his work

What does it mean? confuse
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Reply #1 posted 12/13/03 3:28pm

Number23

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Reply #2 posted 12/13/03 3:28pm

Ardeo

TRON said:

What does it mean? confuse


FBI will close-down Indian Casinos
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Reply #3 posted 12/13/03 4:38pm

TRON

Ardeo said:

TRON said:

What does it mean? confuse


FBI will close-down Indian Casinos

Oh no! How can that be?
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Reply #4 posted 12/13/03 4:40pm

Cloudbuster

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Last night I had a dream that I was Tron. smile
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Reply #5 posted 12/13/03 4:41pm

TRON

Cloudbuster said:

Last night I had a dream that I was Tron. smile

Oh yeah? What was it like? What'd you do in it?
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Reply #6 posted 12/13/03 4:42pm

Cloudbuster

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TRON said:

Cloudbuster said:

Last night I had a dream that I was Tron. smile

Oh yeah? What was it like? What'd you do in it?


It was beautiful, man. I had breasts and everything. smile
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Reply #7 posted 12/13/03 4:43pm

TRON

Cloudbuster said:

TRON said:

Cloudbuster said:

Last night I had a dream that I was Tron. smile

Oh yeah? What was it like? What'd you do in it?


It was beautiful, man. I had breasts and everything. smile

hrmph

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What'd you do with 'em?
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Reply #8 posted 12/13/03 4:45pm

Cloudbuster

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TRON said:

What'd you do with 'em?


I played a game. smile
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Reply #9 posted 12/13/03 4:46pm

TRON

Cloudbuster said:

TRON said:

What'd you do with 'em?


I played a game. smile

Tell me more, tell me more!
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Reply #10 posted 12/13/03 4:48pm

Cloudbuster

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TRON said:

Tell me more, tell me more!


Some people eat poo. JD knows all about this. smile
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Reply #11 posted 12/13/03 4:51pm

TRON

Cloudbuster said:

TRON said:

Tell me more, tell me more!


Some people eat poo. JD knows all about this. smile

Why do you have to be so elusive?
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Reply #12 posted 12/13/03 4:52pm

Cloudbuster

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TRON said:

Why do you have to be so elusive?


It's a gift I have. smile
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Reply #13 posted 12/13/03 6:24pm

TRON

Cloudbuster said:

TRON said:

Why do you have to be so elusive?


It's a gift I have. smile

You're real proud of yourself, aren't you?
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Reply #14 posted 12/14/03 1:04pm

IstenSzek

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Stop jacking this thread and start talking about me me me me me me me

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Reply #15 posted 12/14/03 1:05pm

TRON

IstenSzek said:

Stop jacking this thread and start talking about me me me me me me me

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Exactly. So what's your interpretation of this dream?
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Reply #16 posted 12/14/03 1:15pm

IstenSzek

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TRON said:

IstenSzek said:

Stop jacking this thread and start talking about me me me me me me me

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Exactly. So what's your interpretation of this dream?



Well in order to make a good analysis of your dream,
I will need a bit more information:

1.

What was the general mood of the dream? was it rushed,
relaxed, claustrophobic etc etc?

2.

What was the predominant colour of the dream? and was
it very clear or was it kind of smokescreened or foggy?

3.

Was I an established author, or did I just hit fame with
my recently published debut novell narrating the story
of "The armadillo and Madonna's Pantie Pants"?

If not, what were some of the titles of my books?

4.

Did you have your own hands, or did you have platiphus
gropers?

5.

When proofreading, did you put markings in the sideline
of the text? And if so, in what colour pen?

6.

Did Elaine Bennes or Mister Lipman star in your dream as
well? And was there an Urban Sombrero in there somewhere?

7.

When awake, did you feel happy or where you strangely
worried by something you couldn't quite put your finger
on?

8.

Was I wearing a vest of Swiss Pretzels? If so, did I look
pretty fly in it?


thank you.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #17 posted 12/14/03 1:24pm

TRON

I try to remember. It's been a few days.

1.

What was the general mood of the dream? was it rushed,
relaxed, claustrophobic etc etc?

Relaxed. Lots of intense reading. It felt like an important publishing.

2.

What was the predominant colour of the dream? and was
it very clear or was it kind of smokescreened or foggy?

Clear and dark blue nighttime

3.

Was I an established author, or did I just hit fame with
my recently published debut novell narrating the story
of "The armadillo and Madonna's Pantie Pants"?

If not, what were some of the titles of my books?
You were newly famous with only a few novels under your belt. I don't remember the other titles. This was to be your masterwork though.

4.

Did you have your own hands, or did you have platiphus
gropers?

I can't recall my hands in the dream.

5.

When proofreading, did you put markings in the sideline
of the text? And if so, in what colour pen?

black

6.

Did Elaine Bennes or Mister Lipman star in your dream as
well? And was there an Urban Sombrero in there somewhere?

No, but you were there wanting to know my thoughts and insights into the book.

7.

When awake, did you feel happy or where you strangely
worried by something you couldn't quite put your finger
on?

I wasn't sure it was a dream. I thought for a couple hours after that that you'd actually told me in a thread that you were Native American.

8.

Was I wearing a vest of Swiss Pretzels? If so, did I look
pretty fly in it?

You were wearing a suit.

thank you.

You're welcome.
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Reply #18 posted 12/14/03 1:33pm

IstenSzek

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TRON said:

I try to remember. It's been a few days.

1.

What was the general mood of the dream? was it rushed,
relaxed, claustrophobic etc etc?

Relaxed. Lots of intense reading. It felt like an important publishing.

2.

What was the predominant colour of the dream? and was
it very clear or was it kind of smokescreened or foggy?

Clear and dark blue nighttime

3.

Was I an established author, or did I just hit fame with
my recently published debut novell narrating the story
of "The armadillo and Madonna's Pantie Pants"?

If not, what were some of the titles of my books?
You were newly famous with only a few novels under your belt. I don't remember the other titles. This was to be your masterwork though.

4.

Did you have your own hands, or did you have platiphus
gropers?

I can't recall my hands in the dream.

5.

When proofreading, did you put markings in the sideline
of the text? And if so, in what colour pen?

black

6.

Did Elaine Bennes or Mister Lipman star in your dream as
well? And was there an Urban Sombrero in there somewhere?

No, but you were there wanting to know my thoughts and insights into the book.

7.

When awake, did you feel happy or where you strangely
worried by something you couldn't quite put your finger
on?

I wasn't sure it was a dream. I thought for a couple hours after that that you'd actually told me in a thread that you were Native American.

8.

Was I wearing a vest of Swiss Pretzels? If so, did I look
pretty fly in it?

You were wearing a suit.

thank you.

You're welcome.



This is difficult. I can't really make sense of it. All
I hope is that it will come true

smile

Damnit I want to be a published author!

I'm not native american though. Not even remotely. My
family comes from Holland, yet we've traced our roots
way back to Napoleonic France and to the slavic region
before that.
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Reply #19 posted 12/14/03 1:44pm

TRON

IstenSzek said:

This is difficult. I can't really make sense of it. All
I hope is that it will come true

smile

Damnit I want to be a published author!

I'm not native american though. Not even remotely. My
family comes from Holland, yet we've traced our roots
way back to Napoleonic France and to the slavic region
before that.

People have told me that I'm prophetic. Hopefully your dream will come true. biggrin
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Reply #20 posted 12/14/03 1:45pm

IstenSzek

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TRON said:

IstenSzek said:

This is difficult. I can't really make sense of it. All
I hope is that it will come true

smile

Damnit I want to be a published author!

I'm not native american though. Not even remotely. My
family comes from Holland, yet we've traced our roots
way back to Napoleonic France and to the slavic region
before that.

People have told me that I'm prophetic. Hopefully your dream will come true. biggrin



If ever it does, check for your name on the first page

smile
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Reply #21 posted 12/14/03 1:51pm

TRON

IstenSzek said:

If ever it does, check for your name on the first page

smile

mr.green

Have you tried to get published before?

What kinds of books would you write?
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Reply #22 posted 12/14/03 1:55pm

IstenSzek

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TRON said:

IstenSzek said:

If ever it does, check for your name on the first page

smile

mr.green

Have you tried to get published before?

What kinds of books would you write?


I would probably *TRY* to write something that would be
a cross between umberto Eco and franz Kafka. Something
a bit fantastical but very stripped down and cool.

I've got a few manuscripts lying around here but I don't
look at them anymore. I think that once I write something
really worth sending to a publisher I'll know instantly
and then I will, but not before that time.

Meanwhile, I read so many books that I hardly have enough
time left to write anything more than the odd poem.

There is just so much out there to read that it's almost
an impossible task. You have to sift and choose and it
drives me mad

lol
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Reply #23 posted 12/14/03 2:06pm

Vibrator

IstenSzek said:

I would probably *TRY* to write something that would be a cross between umberto Eco and franz Kafka.


Try to find your own voice instead. That´s the only way to become a great writer, and not just a great copycat.
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Reply #24 posted 12/14/03 2:10pm

IstenSzek

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Vibrator said:

IstenSzek said:

I would probably *TRY* to write something that would be a cross between umberto Eco and franz Kafka.


Try to find your own voice instead. That´s the only way to become a great writer, and not just a great copycat.



I know what you mean. I didn't mean to say I want to write
like them but their kind of stories and general settings,
and the kind of worlds they conjure do wonders for my own
imagination. It's stuff I can work with. It feels natural
to write about those kind of things.

But copying any given one of the big names would be very
unwise. How can you try to copy Kafka and not think "what
on earth would I be able to say that he didn't?"

That's why, indeed, it is very important to have your own
voice.
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Reply #25 posted 12/14/03 2:14pm

TRON

Vibrator said:

IstenSzek said:

I would probably *TRY* to write something that would be a cross between umberto Eco and franz Kafka.


Try to find your own voice instead. That´s the only way to become a great writer, and not just a great copycat.

Isten is far too original to come across as anyone other than himself, even if he was trying to copy.
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Reply #26 posted 12/14/03 3:10pm

Vibrator

IstenSzek said:

Vibrator said:

IstenSzek said:

I would probably *TRY* to write something that would be a cross between umberto Eco and franz Kafka.


Try to find your own voice instead. That´s the only way to become a great writer, and not just a great copycat.



I know what you mean. I didn't mean to say I want to write
like them but their kind of stories and general settings,
and the kind of worlds they conjure do wonders for my own
imagination. It's stuff I can work with. It feels natural
to write about those kind of things.

But copying any given one of the big names would be very
unwise. How can you try to copy Kafka and not think "what
on earth would I be able to say that he didn't?"

That's why, indeed, it is very important to have your own
voice.


I agree. And I can definitely understand why you mentioned your favourite authors when asked what kind of books you would write. They provide a point of reference, a way for others to at least get a vague idea of the worlds you´re trying to create. How else are you supposed to do that without getting into lengthy monologues that will mostly confuse the reader or possibly come across as far more flat and shallow than your writing deserves (I´ve seen that happen many times)?

I guess I´m just so used to seeing potentially great writers lose themselves in the shadow of the giants (a shadow that for some reason tends to grow even larger after the giant him/herself has left this life), so I wrote my usual warning just to make sure...

Sometimes I wish I was better at following my own advice. I often find myself wrestling the spectre of the likes of Kafka, Miller, Wilde, Salinger and Camus. And I hate the fact that they´ve made some areas their own to the extent that anybody who tries to go there has to acknowledge the "owner".

I don´t think Terry Gilliam managed to get through a single interview after he made the movie Brazil without feeling the need to praise Kafka. Brazil had its own firm ground to stand on and it definitely has a home in our own shared alienated and bureaucratic reality that belongs to nobody and everybody. But since old Franz got there first, he still gets to share the credit...

We should find comfort in knowing that we´re not alone with our frustration though. Even Prince sings "What can I say that Shakespeare hasn´t said before?". And the answer is quite obviously: "a whole lot!".
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