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And all he wanted was a cheeseburger with fries. Videotape Shows Man's Beating Death
provided By: The Associated Press Last Modified: 12/1/2003 12:17:31 PM CINCINNATI (AP) -- A 400-pound black man died after being struck repeatedly by police wielding metal nightsticks, and the mayor said Monday a videotape showed that the officers were defending themselves. The cause of death was under investigation. Black activists say the death Sunday of Nathaniel Jones, 41, was another example of brutality involving Cincinnati police. The fatal shooting of an unarmed black man by a white police officer in April 2001 prompted three nights of rioting in the city. "How many of our people have to die before the city decides to do something about it?" said Nathaniel Livingston Jr. of the Coalition for a Just Cincinnati. The officers who were at the scene Sunday -- five whites and one black -- were placed on administrative leave, which is policy while investigators examine any police encounter that results in a death. Sunday's confrontation was videotaped by a camera on a police cruiser. After seeing the video, Mayor Charlie Luken rejected activists' demand that he force police Chief Thomas Streicher Jr. to resign. "What I saw was a 400-pound man violently attacking a police officer in a manner that put the lives of police officers at risk," Luken said. "While the investigations will continue, there is nothing on those tapes to suggest that the police did anything wrong." Luken said he agreed with the initial police assessment that the officers who struggled with Jones defended themselves as they were trained to do when attacked. An employee at a fast-food restaurant called 911 early Sunday to report that a man had passed out on the grass outside. Emergency personnel arrived and reported that the man was awake and "becoming a nuisance," according to police radio transmissions. The first two officers to arrive, Baron Osterman and James Pike, were shown on the video striking Jones after he was warned to stay back. Jones then lunged at one of the two white officers and knocked him down. The officers kept yelling "put your hands behind your back" as they struggled to handcuff him. They called for an ambulance when Jones appeared to be in distress. He died within minutes of arriving at University Hospital, Assistant Chief Richard Janke said. The reason for Jones' behavior is not known, Janke said. Black activist groups staged an economic boycott of Cincinnati after the 2001 shooting of Timothy Thomas, 19, who was wanted on prior charges of fleeing police when he ran from officers. Officer Stephen Roach shot him in a dark alley and was later cleared at trial of criminal charges. A federal investigation of that shooting, requested by the city, resulted in Cincinnati's April 2002 agreement to tighten policies regarding use of force and to improve handling of citizen complaints against the police. Last February, a white officer chased and fatally shot a black man who was spotted running from a store that had been broken into, police said. The police, Hamilton County prosecutor and the Citizen Complaint Authority review panel concluded that the shooting was justified because the suspect was beating the officer with his nightstick. (Copyright 2003 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.) | |
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I heard of this shit on the news last night!!!
They showed the video too!!! If I was that man's mother/sister/wife/daughter/niece/whatever, I'd sue like  !!!They did WHAT??!.... 
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Where's Aaron at? Okay, I'll say it. Wrong Forum!
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moderatorThrowing some chlorine into the gene pool.
That'll teach him to resist arrest. "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
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June7 said: Where's Aaron at? Okay, I'll say it. Wrong Forum!
Damn this will be the second time, I first posted this In the LSR forum  but I guess it could be considered general disscussion. | |
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chemmie said: Throwing some chlorine into the gene pool.
That'll teach him to resist arrest. What?! That didn't give the bastids any reason to beat the poor man to death!!! They did WHAT??!....
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btw - back on topic.
I think it's becoming all too clear that the police have no regard for anyone but their own agenda. Police brutality is here to stay... regardless. The only thing to come of lawsuits and prosecutions are riots and unrest... then tomorrow another brutal attack from an officer will take place, on another video camera, ending in another death or near-death.  |
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chemmie said: Throwing some chlorine into the gene pool.
That'll teach him to resist arrest. To bad he won't be able to apply the lesson that he learned, maybe he'll know better in the afterworld. | |
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sinisterpentatonic said: chemmie said: Throwing some chlorine into the gene pool.
That'll teach him to resist arrest. To bad he won't be able to apply the lesson that he learned, maybe he'll know better in the afterworld. 
so, so true They did WHAT??!....
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June7 said: btw - back on topic.
I think it's becoming all too clear that the police have no regard for anyone but their own agenda. Police brutality is here to stay... regardless. The only thing to come of lawsuits and prosecutions are riots and unrest... then tomorrow another brutal attack from an officer will take place, on another video camera, ending in another death or near-death. Well I seen some of that video, all I can say is that with his weight he was a ticking time bomb. I usually don't side with the police but after seeing the vid, I think I can sympathize with them on this one. If some guy that big came at me, trust me I'd be wacking the shit outta him with whatever I could get my hands on. | |
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sinisterpentatonic said: June7 said: btw - back on topic.
I think it's becoming all too clear that the police have no regard for anyone but their own agenda. Police brutality is here to stay... regardless. The only thing to come of lawsuits and prosecutions are riots and unrest... then tomorrow another brutal attack from an officer will take place, on another video camera, ending in another death or near-death. Well I seen some of that video, all I can say is that with his weight he was a ticking time bomb. I usually don't side with the police but after seeing the vid, I think I can sympathize with them on this one. If some guy that big came at me, trust me I'd be wacking the shit outta him with whatever I could get my hands on. They have mace. They have rubber bullets. They have nightsticks. All of these used with precision could have stopped him. Then again, I have not seen the video. But, surely - with five police on the case, it could've been handled better. |
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June7 said: sinisterpentatonic said: June7 said: btw - back on topic.
I think it's becoming all too clear that the police have no regard for anyone but their own agenda. Police brutality is here to stay... regardless. The only thing to come of lawsuits and prosecutions are riots and unrest... then tomorrow another brutal attack from an officer will take place, on another video camera, ending in another death or near-death. Well I seen some of that video, all I can say is that with his weight he was a ticking time bomb. I usually don't side with the police but after seeing the vid, I think I can sympathize with them on this one. If some guy that big came at me, trust me I'd be wacking the shit outta him with whatever I could get my hands on. They have mace. They have rubber bullets. They have nightsticks. All of these used with precision could have stopped him. Then again, I have not seen the video. But, surely - with five police on the case, it could've been handled better. Nightsticks were the only thing that they used in defending themselves, they did not shoot him, though I agree with you, 5 guys should have been able to handle the situation without beating the pulp out of him, but in the heat of the moment...  | |
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I think the officers did what they believed to be right, but the sad thing is, once they started beating on the guy, how was he to know that they would stop once he submitted? It's a scary position to be in. There are too many crooked cops are out there. I have my own experiences , and I don't trust anyone! | |
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