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Reply #60 posted 12/01/03 3:32pm

chemmie

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paintsprayer said:

chemmie said:

KAMILLE said:

Any company that exploits workers in 3rd world countries


make believe there is a magical place called "Rhodesia". In "Rhodesia" everyone is paid the equivilant of $100 an hour. A Rhodesian corporation decided to move some jobs to America (or wherever you are) to save some money and decided to pay everyone there $30 an hour. To the Rhodesians, $30 an hour is chicken feed and one cannot live on that kind of money. But in America $30 an hour is good money.
Now tell me, are the Americans who choose to take the job for $30 an hour being exploited? In the eyes of other Rhodesians they are. But in the American's eyes this is a great offer.


Now imagine Rhodesian people boycotting everything that company produces until it is forced to shut down and a new one springs up in it's place led by a ceo who will forgo his zillion dollar increase in order to afford to return jobs to Rhodesia where they belong in the first place.
That is real capatalism at work



yes, that is true. clapping i applaud you for that analysis. that is how everything should work. but using the government to impose regulations is the anti-solution.
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Reply #61 posted 12/01/03 3:53pm

CHAOSMAN87

whatever u do do not work for dunkin donuts you will be giving your mind and time away for a measly 5.50
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Reply #62 posted 12/01/03 4:13pm

paintsprayer

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chemmie said:

paintsprayer said:

chemmie said:

KAMILLE said:

Any company that exploits workers in 3rd world countries


make believe there is a magical place called "Rhodesia". In "Rhodesia" everyone is paid the equivilant of $100 an hour. A Rhodesian corporation decided to move some jobs to America (or wherever you are) to save some money and decided to pay everyone there $30 an hour. To the Rhodesians, $30 an hour is chicken feed and one cannot live on that kind of money. But in America $30 an hour is good money.
Now tell me, are the Americans who choose to take the job for $30 an hour being exploited? In the eyes of other Rhodesians they are. But in the American's eyes this is a great offer.


Now imagine Rhodesian people boycotting everything that company produces until it is forced to shut down and a new one springs up in it's place led by a ceo who will forgo his zillion dollar increase in order to afford to return jobs to Rhodesia where they belong in the first place.
That is real capatalism at work



yes, that is true. clapping i applaud you for that analysis. that is how everything should work. but using the government to impose regulations is the anti-solution.



Keep in mind that for every government regulation there are usually about a hundred government handouts and tax breaks helping out tha corporations. Most coorporations do not practice what they preach. The flaw I found in your original story is that usually when a company moves overseas and pays it's workers much more than the going wage they still are not paying a living wage., the people of prosperus countries should be digusted and boycott, the third world workers should unionize
[This message was edited Mon Dec 1 18:42:47 PST 2003 by paintsprayer]
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Reply #63 posted 12/01/03 4:48pm

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IAmTheTouch said:

Number23 said:

You should join the circus.


oh, i forgot - i'd never work for a circus that uses animals... (but i guess you knew that!)




how about a flea circus?
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Reply #64 posted 12/02/03 2:17am

IAmTheTouch

AaronUniversal said:

IAmTheTouch said:

Number23 said:

You should join the circus.


oh, i forgot - i'd never work for a circus that uses animals... (but i guess you knew that!)




how about a flea circus?


tease
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Reply #65 posted 12/02/03 2:20am

IAmTheTouch

paintsprayer said:



Keep in mind that for every government regulation there are usually about a hundred government handouts and tax breaks helping out tha corporations. Most coorporations do not practice what they preach. The flaw I found in your original story is that usually when a company moves overseas and pays it's workers much more than the going wage they still are not paying a living wage. the people of prosperus countries should be digusted and boycott, the third world workers should unionize
[This message was edited Mon Dec 1 18:42:47 PST 2003 by paintsprayer]


very true. as with any employer, a company will always pay as little as they can get away with - that's even true in the nonprofit world, where the human service providers often scramble to make up for the gaps corporations have created. ironic, isn't it?
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Reply #66 posted 12/02/03 3:01am

Rayray17

IAmTheTouch said:

... work for?

every few months, i get the urge to look for another job. the only problem is that the list of companies or industries i would not work for keeps getting longer and longer...

i wouldn't work for:


  • research labs that conduct animal testing
  • department stores that sell leather or fur
  • the campaign to re-elect Bush (or any other republican for that matter)
  • Weyerhauser or any other large wood/paper company
  • ADM
  • Arthur Anderson
  • Halliburton or any other defense contractor
  • large pet stores
  • Fox News
  • a slaughter house
  • the diamond industry
  • Wal-Mart or any other global retail conglomerate
  • anybody in the pharmaceutical industry
  • a restaurant that serves meat


damn, guess i'll be searching for a looong time!

what company would you not work for?


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Reply #67 posted 12/02/03 5:23am

chemmie

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paintsprayer said:


Keep in mind that for every government regulation there are usually about a hundred government handouts and tax breaks helping out tha corporations. Most coorporations do not practice what they preach. The flaw I found in your original story is that usually when a company moves overseas and pays it's workers much more than the going wage they still are not paying a living wage., the people of prosperus countries should be digusted and boycott, the third world workers should unionize


agreed.
if the third world employees unionize and demand more than the corporations are willing to give, then they could be without employment. much like anything else, employees are a commodity. if you pay them well and treat them well, you should have more and harder working employees. if you do the opposite, you will get the opposite in return.
the corporations obviously want to get the most output from the least amount of input. if you disagree you can boycott. if the workers disagree they can strike. if the corporation disagrees it can find others to work for them.
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Reply #68 posted 12/02/03 5:32am

IAmTheTouch

Rayray17 said:



Ticketmaster machinegun


tell us more - did you work for them?
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Reply #69 posted 12/02/03 5:35am

DigitalLisa

Anybody who wears a gold tooth and his name is SugarBear confused
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Reply #70 posted 12/02/03 5:52am

HerRoyalBadnes
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Would never work for a major company like Burger Kind, McD, Coca-Cola.
Wouldn't work with anything that involved children under the age of 10.
Dying people (spelling?)
Dying animals
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Reply #71 posted 12/02/03 6:01am

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and def. wouldn't work for this guy:


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Reply #72 posted 12/02/03 8:01am

lillith

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i would not work for Air Canada...ever again.
provided of course they fire my ass..


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Reply #73 posted 12/02/03 8:34am

IAmTheTouch

lillith said:

i would not work for Air Canada...ever again.
provided of course they fire my ass..


wink


hug hi gurlie!

does that mean you can hook us up with some friends&family tickets?!?!?! batting eyes
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Reply #74 posted 12/02/03 10:00am

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HerRoyalBadness said:

and def. wouldn't work for this guy:





drool
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Reply #75 posted 12/02/03 11:59am

DexMSR

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IAmTheTouch said:

... work for?

every few months, i get the urge to look for another job. the only problem is that the list of companies or industries i would not work for keeps getting longer and longer...

i wouldn't work for:



CORPORATE AMERICA...sharks, backstabbers, deception, glass ceilings, fear of an EDUCATED Black Man!! It goes on and on...I just tired of all the bullshit basically!


  • research labs that conduct animal testing
  • department stores that sell leather or fur
  • the campaign to re-elect Bush (or any other republican for that matter)
  • Weyerhauser or any other large wood/paper company
  • ADM
  • Arthur Anderson
  • Halliburton or any other defense contractor
  • large pet stores
  • Fox News
  • a slaughter house
  • the diamond industry
  • Wal-Mart or any other global retail conglomerate
  • anybody in the pharmaceutical industry
  • a restaurant that serves meat


damn, guess i'll be searching for a looong time!

what company would you not work for?
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Reply #76 posted 12/02/03 12:11pm

daned

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chemmie said:

KAMILLE said:

Any company that exploits workers in 3rd world countries


make believe there is a magical place called "Rhodesia". In "Rhodesia" everyone is paid the equivilant of $100 an hour. A Rhodesian corporation decided to move some jobs to America (or wherever you are) to save some money and decided to pay everyone there $30 an hour. To the Rhodesians, $30 an hour is chicken feed and one cannot live on that kind of money. But in America $30 an hour is good money.
Now tell me, are the Americans who choose to take the job for $30 an hour being exploited? In the eyes of other Rhodesians they are. But in the American's eyes this is a great offer.


True point Chemmie, but in a lot of cases US&UK companies are not paying survival wages. There are people working in factories building computer chips who are suffering from malnutrition and overwork.

As consumers, these companies would be nothing without us. We pay their wages with out shopping. So, why can't we bully these companies around? Make 'em face up to their responsibilities. I'm not an "anti-capitalist" at all, I just want a bit more fairness.

Fair enough?
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