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PREDOMINANT said: IAmTheTouch said: PREDOMINANT said: IAmTheTouch said: the diamond industry anybody in the pharmaceutical industry Can you explain the diamond industry in South Africa is notorious for horrific labor conditions, and i personally believe that the pharmaceutical industry often takes advantage of markets, rather than eliminating them. for example, it bugs me that there are so many heartburn or cholesterol medications out there, when most conditions like that are lifestyle related. in the meantime, the world faces some serious health concerns that are not being addressed as aggressively as they could, such as AIDS. now, i do understand that the world AIDS crisis is far more complicated than that, but it seems like at some point, it should be about more than just profits. just my Does that mean ALL diamonds are proliferating the labour conditions in SA? Or is diamond mining notorious world wide? Some pharmas arn't bad, I have associations with a few and for the most part they are usually trying to "fill the gaps" adressing the issues that get left by the big boys because of there association with smaller profits. The AIDS issue is perplexing, you would think that the potential for money is huge. Sadly the largest market (South Africa) is also one of the poorest. Hence research concentrates on slimming down Mr gluttonous busnessman who can affort nice expensive drugs. Sucks I know, but to generalise on this one is wrong there are a lot of small bioteck companies that encourage new work and young scientists. point well taken, maybe i should have distinguished between companies. again, those are MY personal reservations, it doesn't mean others have to do the same. i was just curious about where people draw the line... | |
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PEJ said: ask me who I would work for and my first answer would be ...
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IAmTheTouch said: point well taken, maybe i should have distinguished between companies. again, those are MY personal reservations, it doesn't mean others have to do the same. i was just curious about where people draw the line... Never work for a Crappy Pharma Company I draw the line any multi conglomerate, I can't believe how many products and services I have given up this year. Anything in the service industry - people are bastards as customers Celebrity jobs - hate having my picture taken Sportsman – I am sooo shit at sport I would be sacked very quickly Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard! | |
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I think my responses would be different depending on if I had to provide for my familly or if we were doing ok and wanted to make extra money
with my wife being the main provider for us I am afforded a small degree of luxury in who I work for. I did once go against principle in a job and I paid for it in the end. Now I'm older than movies, Now I'm wiser than dreams, And I know who's there
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IAmTheTouch said: PREDOMINANT said: IAmTheTouch said: the diamond industry anybody in the pharmaceutical industry Can you explain the diamond industry in South Africa is notorious for horrific labor conditions, and i personally believe that the pharmaceutical industry often takes advantage of markets, rather than eliminating them. for example, it bugs me that there are so many heartburn or cholesterol medications out there, when most conditions like that are lifestyle related. in the meantime, the world faces some serious health concerns that are not being addressed as aggressively as they could, such as AIDS. now, i do understand that the world AIDS crisis is far more complicated than that, but it seems like at some point, it should be about more than just profits. just my tell that to somebody who must take Prilosec on a daily basis to keep from writhing in serious pain. all of these drugs solve a problem and all are a godsend to some. "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
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GREAT to see you back!!! I missed you. Here is another tricky part to your dilemma. I try to buy from and invest only in companies who are earth safe, animal fiendly and conscientiously ethical. But, invariably, along come the giants and swallow them up in a single gulp. It is difficult to really know where your money will ultimately end up. A few years ago in a college project, we were required to research the holdings of some of the nation's biggest corporations. One of Blue Cross/Blue Shield's biggest portfolio holdings were the tobacco companies ~ how's that for insuring your job? | |
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paintsprayer said: I think my responses would be different depending on if I had to provide for my familly or if we were doing ok and wanted to make extra money
with my wife being the main provider for us I am afforded a small degree of luxury in who I work for. I did once go against principle in a job and I paid for it in the end. What happened? | |
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bratchildsfriend said: GREAT to see you back!!! I missed you. Here is another tricky part to your dilemma. I try to buy from and invest only in companies who are earth safe, animal fiendly and conscientiously ethical. But, invariably, along come the giants and swallow them up in a single gulp. It is difficult to really know where your money will ultimately end up. A few years ago in a college project, we were required to research the holdings of some of the nation's biggest corporations. One of Blue Cross/Blue Shield's biggest portfolio holdings were the tobacco companies ~ how's that for insuring your job?
hi sweetie... good to see you! you're right, investing is another area where i try to be careful. no point in protesting a company one day, just to find out that they're part of your mutual fund! TIAA-Cref has a so-called "Social Choice" mutual fund that sounds pretty good, so that's where i've put my 401K money. it's hard to keep on top of things, though... | |
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oh, wait! i did think of one: Prince!
i'd never work for him. though i'd love the chance to go in and tell him what the hell he's doing wrong and how to fix it. perhaps i could get around my refusal to be on his payroll by offering my services pro bono | |
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AaronUniversal said: oh, wait! i did think of one: Prince!
i'd never work for him. though i'd love the chance to go in and tell him what the hell he's doing wrong and how to fix it. perhaps i could get around my refusal to be on his payroll by offering my services pro bono Yeah, but if you offer him your "services" again, you may end up with another restraining order. Will you never learn? |
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Any company that exploits workers in 3rd world countries
Any company with dishonest management Any company that discriminates any kind of minority group Any company that doesn’t show respect where it’s due Retail - (I just hate retail. I’m in it right now and it’s shit) | |
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KAMILLE said: Any company with dishonest management
Any company that discriminates any kind of minority group Any company that doesn’t show respect where it’s due Yeah...um...good luck with that If you find this perfect job, let me know There's politics everywhere...which I detest, but its true | |
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KAMILLE said: Any company that exploits workers in 3rd world countries
make believe there is a magical place called "Rhodesia". In "Rhodesia" everyone is paid the equivilant of $100 an hour. A Rhodesian corporation decided to move some jobs to America (or wherever you are) to save some money and decided to pay everyone there $30 an hour. To the Rhodesians, $30 an hour is chicken feed and one cannot live on that kind of money. But in America $30 an hour is good money. Now tell me, are the Americans who choose to take the job for $30 an hour being exploited? In the eyes of other Rhodesians they are. But in the American's eyes this is a great offer. "I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum"
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My activist inclinations are more subversive than "chivalrous," so I'd gladly take money from almost any company I could think of.
Traditionally, if an employer's politics have been in synch with mine, I've given them my all. If not, I've spent my time earning a paycheck while discreetly f*cking things up to every extent possible within my scope of operation until I resigned for another company. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said: My activist inclinations are more subversive than "chivalrous," so I'd gladly take money from almost any company I could think of.
Traditionally, if an employer's politics have been in synch with mine, I've given them my all. If not, I've spent my time earning a paycheck while discreetly f*cking things up to every extent possible within my scope of operation until I resigned for another company. i love the way you think! | |
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Lammastide said: My activist inclinations are more subversive than "chivalrous," so I'd gladly take money from almost any company I could think of.
Traditionally, if an employer's politics have been in synch with mine, I've given them my all. If not, I've spent my time earning a paycheck while discreetly f*cking things up to every extent possible within my scope of operation until I resigned for another company. Great stuff | |
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conch5184 said: paintsprayer said: I think my responses would be different depending on if I had to provide for my familly or if we were doing ok and wanted to make extra money
with my wife being the main provider for us I am afforded a small degree of luxury in who I work for. I did once go against principle in a job and I paid for it in the end. What happened? This was the recent fast food job that I quit. I had taken a cashier job just because it fit our life, at the time my youngest was only in school half a day, nothing mach around here was open past five or so. I figured I could go in do my job and go home. Then they asked me to accept a promotion over most of the people in the store. I figured I could just do the job and not think about it because it's work. I was put in an awful position dealing with my crew. People are regularly put in a position where they need to work overtime to finish their job, but absolutely no overtime is allowed, the owners have the position of "if you can't do it we'll find someone who can" even thogh they are asking what is almost imposible. So people work for free all the time. people also work for free because it is set up so as to be a personal favor for the person stuck working there etc the list goes on and on Ar one point one of my managers explained how she would end up with fifteen or so minutes of overtime in the coming week and what to do, I looked into the problem and saw there was nothing else to do, I told her to work it. She ended up getting badly yelled at by the district manager who avoided me because he knew I wouldn't stand for it. Eventually I found myself taking on more and more work so as not to treat my employees like this, I burnt out Now I'm older than movies, Now I'm wiser than dreams, And I know who's there
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chemmie said: KAMILLE said: Any company that exploits workers in 3rd world countries
make believe there is a magical place called "Rhodesia". In "Rhodesia" everyone is paid the equivilant of $100 an hour. A Rhodesian corporation decided to move some jobs to America (or wherever you are) to save some money and decided to pay everyone there $30 an hour. To the Rhodesians, $30 an hour is chicken feed and one cannot live on that kind of money. But in America $30 an hour is good money. Now tell me, are the Americans who choose to take the job for $30 an hour being exploited? In the eyes of other Rhodesians they are. But in the American's eyes this is a great offer. Now imagine Rhodesian people boycotting everything that company produces until it is forced to shut down and a new one springs up in it's place led by a ceo who will forgo his zillion dollar increase in order to afford to return jobs to Rhodesia where they belong in the first place. That is real capatalism at work Now I'm older than movies, Now I'm wiser than dreams, And I know who's there
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JDINTERACTIVE said: Tottenham Hotspur Football Club | |
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althom said: JDINTERACTIVE said: Tottenham Hotspur Football Club Althom | |
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althom said: JDINTERACTIVE said: Tottenham Hotspur Football Club :MAD2: | |
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summerdawn said: KAMILLE said: Any company with dishonest management
Any company that discriminates any kind of minority group Any company that doesn’t show respect where it’s due Yeah...um...good luck with that If you find this perfect job, let me know There's politics everywhere...which I detest, but its true The more I see of the world, the more I realise this. | |
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GirlIntercepted said: althom said: JDINTERACTIVE said: Tottenham Hotspur Football Club :MAD2: | |
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KAMILLE said: summerdawn said: KAMILLE said: Any company with dishonest management
Any company that discriminates any kind of minority group Any company that doesn’t show respect where it’s due Yeah...um...good luck with that If you find this perfect job, let me know There's politics everywhere...which I detest, but its true The more I see of the world, the more I realise this. I understand completely. Its hard not to be cynical when it comes to these things... | |
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summerdawn said: KAMILLE said: summerdawn said: KAMILLE said: Any company with dishonest management
Any company that discriminates any kind of minority group Any company that doesn’t show respect where it’s due Yeah...um...good luck with that If you find this perfect job, let me know There's politics everywhere...which I detest, but its true The more I see of the world, the more I realise this. I understand completely. Its hard not to be cynical when it comes to these things... | |
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You should join the circus. | |
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Number23 said: You should join the circus.
you should join the zoo... Remember, today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.
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Number23 said: You should join the circus.
oh, i forgot - i'd never work for a circus that uses animals... (but i guess you knew that!) | |
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