For those of you who might like this and just because.

View movie here:
Jesus






And for those of you wondering about the meet up, go here:
OrgMeetup

(((Chico))) Now that I can understand...

~Keep your beliefs high and your strengths at bay. You truly are a blessing...

(beautiful)

This is truly wonderful and refreshing. God help us all especially during these uncertain times.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be outwardly antagonistic or even bring balance to this thread, but watching this soft-focus slide show made me feel like I just ate fourteen Mars Bars then drank a large chocolate milk-shake.
Some people need religion in their lives to draw solid root lines in their mind as to why the human race was given the gift/curse of conciousness - ie the knowledge that your are a terminal creature and doomed to rot in the ground.
That's fine by me. I would never critisise anyone's personal beliefs or allusions - if they've made up their mind themselves that is, and not through subliminal brain-washing techniques applied by certain sects, movements and governments (kid's Sunday Schools, children being forced to read the Lord's Prayer in school every morning etc) and some even adopt their own parent's beliefs! - something which I persoanlly think cheapens the intelligence and intellect every person was born with.
Personally, I have a healthy appetite for exploring all aspects of the human condition, but the belief in Jesus/Krishna/Mohammed/Allah/Buddah seems to me a direct reflection/regurgitation of what everyone remembers themselves as being before the adult world diseased our perception of purity and magic. We all want to get back there, but the idea of someone being 'born-again' strikes me as both hilarious and heart-breaking. They've given up - on both their sanity and themselves.
I truly believe if our race is still in existance 3000 years from now, they will dismiss our quaint beliefs in an all-powerful 'God' the way we now do regarding the Roman's fear of the furious warrior-God Zeus and his incestuous family of lesser Deities.
This existence is certainly a strange trip if we take time out to contemplate our perceptions of reality, but blind belief - to me - is just giving up on yourself and your beautiful, already all-knowing open mind.
Religion truly is a fatal flaw in human nature - a brick wall of thought - and all we have to do is turn on the news to see the pit 'faith' digs for itself in the end.
Of course, if Jesus decides to come back to collect y'all for the final rapture/ascension, I'm sure he'll also find a seat for me on the bus for questioning the nature of his existance - after all, didn't 'He' gift me this mind to contemplate the unknowable?
I truly believe, if there is a 'God', he would love and appreciate people like myself who challenge his existance and power over the braying syncophants who fall to their knees at the first mention of his name.
Peace, 23.

You are God edit
[This message was edited Sun Nov 23 14:51:18 PST 2003 by Number23]

Faith is the soul going out of itself for all its wants...

Faith is love taking the form of aspiration...

Faith means belief in something concerning which doubt is theoretically possible...

The smallest seed of faith is better than the largest fruit of happiness...

Treat the other man's faith gently: it is all he has to believe with.

Byron said:

That is Beautiful.I love God.

Sorry, nice sentiment 'n' all, but I gotta side with Number23 on
this one. It just reminds me of the Jim Cunningham video
in Donnie Darko.
[This message was edited Sun Nov 23 13:00:30 PST 2003 by BorisFishpaw]

These lyrics sum it up best to me.


Once was this ball with a line straight down the middle
One side was black and the other one white
And they both understood so little
That they spent their whole lives tryin' 2 tell each other what time it was
And all along it did not matter what either said
Because, because

U only know what u know
U only see what your heart will show
U only love when your soul remembers
We all come from the same December
And in the end that's where we'll go
So let's go

There once was a golden idol that went 2 the winners
Needless 2 say, it didn't make 'em feel any less a sinner
Cuz the very next mornin' the whole damn world was the same
Yes it was
The idol's still shinin' but the voice inside it said,
"There ain't no winners in this game"

U only know what u know
U only see what your heart will show
U only love when your soul remembers
We all come from the same December
And in the end that's where we'll go
So let's go

There once was an angel
Who most certainly watched over me
But if it got me through the day
Is it crazy?
Yeah, I'll be crazy

Until the demons fall as far as anyone can fall
When they reap what they done sowed, I'll be standin' tall
We spend our whole lives tryin' 2 dog the other man
When what we need 2 do is try to give him all we can

But, uh, u only know what u know
And, uh, u only see what your heart'll show
And, uh, u only love when your soul remembers
We all come from the same December
And in the end that's where we'll go
So let's go

Let's go
Let's go!

BorisFishpaw said:

"Love - hate."
[This message was edited Sun Nov 23 14:52:18 PST 2003 by Number23]

I'd shag Jesus!

mcmeekle said:

He'd never accept your diseased cock between his beautiful buns, my friend.

funny how the
non believers are
always the first
to put down someone
else's beliefs then
try to mask it
by using the "to each their
own" sentiment.

and how does one's belief
in a 'higher power' equate to illusions?

it obviously reads
"for those who might like this".
this is not for argument sake,
but i mean really.

and who says that everyone who
believes in a 'god' has questionable
intelligence? or that they themselves don't
question the existence?

nice video..not my thing
wasn't forced on me, and
it wasn't one of those
'turn or burn' things.

but believer or not,
the words send a kind heartded
message. so where's the problem?

why are others so quick to
put someone down for spreading
something meant to enlighten,
inspire or just share?

i always wonder about
people who don't believe
but are always the first to
react. if you don't believe,
then why does it affect you?

and remember, that was just a
question.

:F:

VenusAsABoy said:

Good point, well argued.
For the record, I wasn't putting anyone down. I was, as you are now, merely putting forward an opinion.
But unlike myself, you obviously have been gifted with a peaceful soul, so I won't take umbridge with any of the points you raised.
Peace.

Very nice

Number23 said:

I don´t understand why religious statements always have to be so totally ridiculous. When atheists see this they´re probably thinking "told you so, they´re all without both taste and sense". All potentially good/wise/valid points are lost in a mess like this. Such a waste...

Thanks for the Jesus movie How wonderful, thank you.

Number23 said:

Number23 said:

VenusAsABoy said:

Beautifully said. Hopefully this message hits home to those who want to enlighten us.

CtheUncanny said:

Very cool...

Cloudbuster said:

Five more!