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Reply #60 posted 11/19/03 2:44pm

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illimack said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

illimack said:

Does andybody think that the difference may be due to the differnt sex of the accusers. I know a lot of brothers that have seen the R kelly tape. They say that say that the girl didn't look 15. I have even heard comedians joke on televsion that the girls are more devloped now days thank to Mcdonalds so they could understand R. Kelleys predicament. I think that in a strange way, men can relate to R Kelley and and underage girl. I alway catch grown men eyeing my 14 yr old daughter.johnwoo But how many "normal" people can relate to Michael's alleged sexual fascination with pre-prubescent boys?


Does it really matter? Underage is underage...




I absolutely (sp) agree. I think that R. Kelley needs his ass thrown in jail. He did marry Aliyah when she was 15 and his shit is on tape. I'm just saying that I have heard a lot of men comment on the fact that they understand his predicament. While I have never heard anyone make the same claims about "understanding" Mike's.

illimack has hit the nail on the head in respect of the different reactions to R Kelly and MJ.

Men in particular can sort of relate to R Kelly's predicament because we have all seen 15 year old girls that are physically attractive and look very mature. Shit, we have morals etc and would never act on it but we sought of understand it. (note: I still think he's a sick fuck if he did it and deserves jail time).

However, most men cant relate to the MJ thing because it involves boys and these boys are 12 and younger. Also, MJ is way more high profile and is seen by most people in the world as probably the weirdest dude on the planet.

I suspect MJ will not live through all this.
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Reply #61 posted 11/19/03 3:03pm

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They also asked him to surrender his passport. They are not playing. eek

NOPE! shake the shit's about to hit the fan. eek
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Reply #62 posted 11/19/03 3:05pm

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Paisley said:

NuPwrSoul said:

They also asked him to surrender his passport. They are not playing. eek

NOPE! shake the shit's about to hit the fan. eek




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Reply #63 posted 11/19/03 3:06pm

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I bet Prince Charles couldn't be happier right about now.
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Reply #64 posted 11/19/03 3:06pm

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Paisley said:

NuPwrSoul said:

They also asked him to surrender his passport. They are not playing. eek

NOPE! shake the shit's about to hit the fan. eek


How long will the trial take y'reckon?
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Reply #65 posted 11/19/03 3:07pm

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Lammastide said:

I bet Prince Charles couldn't be happier right about now.


Indeed!
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Reply #66 posted 11/19/03 3:23pm

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Marrk said:

Paisley said:

NuPwrSoul said:

They also asked him to surrender his passport. They are not playing. eek

NOPE! shake the shit's about to hit the fan. eek


How long will the trial take y'reckon?

minimum 1 year but realistically 2 to 3 unless they settle out of court again.
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Reply #67 posted 11/19/03 3:37pm

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Geeez! Who the fuck is MJ's advisor! The lawyer who is representing Scott Peterson? Fuck MJ is so stupid just from an image perspective.!


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Mark Geragos' is highly regarded and, his abilities as a lawyer remain irrespective of the clients he represents.

SINISTERPENTATONIC:
Please illuminate us as to which lawyer are you referring?

Johnnie Cochran? John Branca? Bert Fields? Howard Weitzman? As far as I'm aware none of these individuals are incarcerated.

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Reply #68 posted 11/19/03 3:44pm

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papaa said:

rdhull said:


Geeez! Who the fuck is MJ's advisor! The lawyer who is representing Scott Peterson? Fuck MJ is so stupid just from an image perspective.!


RDHULL:
Mark Geragos' is highly regarded and, his abilities as a lawyer remain irrespective of the clients he represents.

SINISTERPENTATONIC:
Please illuminate us as to which lawyer are you referring?

Johnnie Cochran? John Branca? Bert Fields? Howard Weitzman? As far as I'm aware none of these individuals are incarcerated.

M.2.K
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he helped winona but scott peterson and mj's cases are not as petty as that case...
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Reply #69 posted 11/19/03 6:20pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

First of all, this is not a MUSIC thread so please do not move it.

Question: does anyone know what the status is of the investigation of R. Kelly's child pornography and statutory rape charges?

It's a case where there is evidence that R engaged in sex with underaged girls and video taped it. Yet I do not recall this level of media or police scrutiny into the case.

Not only has R seemed to be able to shrug off those charges, but he has gone on to release one of his most successful albums to date, garner awards, and receive standing ovations.

MJ, on the other hand... well we just don't know really what the deal is. Of course MJ has a much higher profile.

Those sheriffs are def out for him $3 million bail; multiple charges; etc.


Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


They lied when they filled out the marriage certificate; the marriage was annulled on the basis of Aaliyah and/or her family proving her real age to the court.
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