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Reply #30 posted 11/19/03 11:59am

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All of a sudden I feel ill...like this is really it and they have proof..I was always up in the air about whether or not he was innocent etc even though I didnt agree with him havng sleep overs. Others in the industry said he wasnt like his image etc ..now if its found out he did it etc..its sort of like an american tragedy mental illness type of ting being played out in public. Of someone who was a great artist that I grew up with. I was also going to post an Invincible-2 years later, because I fel it was underrated and still holds up with some of th e songs like Break Of dawn, Whatever Happens, Speecheless etc...this is some shit goin down now.

I totally feel you. I haven't been a fan since the "Thriller" days, but this is some deeply saddening stuff here.

Why, why, why didn't anyone try to help this guy when he was younger? Why didn't someone put a size 13 Doc. Marten in his daddy Joe's ass?
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Reply #31 posted 11/19/03 12:00pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

They said MJ is going to be represented by Mark Garragos (sp?) the same attorney representing Scott Peterson in the Lacy Peterson murder case.

Umm, don't ya think that lawyer got his plate full already?

Geeez! Who the fuck is MJ's advisor! The lawyer who is representing Scott Peterson? Fuck MJ is so stupid just from an image perspective.!

I wouldn't be surpised if Johnny Cochran was invited back to the fold.
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Reply #32 posted 11/19/03 12:02pm

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Lammastide said:

rdhull said:

NuPwrSoul said:

They said MJ is going to be represented by Mark Garragos (sp?) the same attorney representing Scott Peterson in the Lacy Peterson murder case.

Umm, don't ya think that lawyer got his plate full already?

Geeez! Who the fuck is MJ's advisor! The lawyer who is representing Scott Peterson? Fuck MJ is so stupid just from an image perspective.!

I wouldn't be surpised if Johnny Cochran was invited back to the fold.
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I feel that is better p.r. than that guy whos representing Peterson. Dear god this is going to be a circus.
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Reply #33 posted 11/19/03 12:08pm

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MJ will not survive jail and barely survive through this court set

be prepared for a lot of emotional pathology
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Reply #34 posted 11/19/03 12:19pm

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anyways --with all this MJ stuff lets just vote my thread with mor e stars--lets all feel good again
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Reply #35 posted 11/19/03 12:36pm

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Does anyone know if Michaels attorneys plan to have him turn himself in?
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Reply #36 posted 11/19/03 12:51pm

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From what I understand,the R.Kelly case has been repeatedly delayed because the main witness (the young girl in the video) is NOT cooperating with authorities,She has even said that it's not HER in the video.So,they're having a tough time building a case against him,but I think he is due back in court sometime next month.
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Reply #37 posted 11/19/03 1:07pm

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Does andybody think that the difference may be due to the differnt sex of the accusers. I know a lot of brothers that have seen the R kelly tape. They say that say that the girl didn't look 15. I have even heard comedians joke on televsion that the girls are more devloped now days thank to Mcdonalds so they could understand R. Kelleys predicament. I think that in a strange way, men can relate to R Kelley and and underage girl. I alway catch grown men eyeing my 14 yr old daughter.johnwoo But how many "normal" people can relate to Michael's alleged sexual fascination with pre-prubescent boys?
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Reply #38 posted 11/19/03 1:15pm

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illimack said:

Does andybody think that the difference may be due to the differnt sex of the accusers. I know a lot of brothers that have seen the R kelly tape. They say that say that the girl didn't look 15. I have even heard comedians joke on televsion that the girls are more devloped now days thank to Mcdonalds so they could understand R. Kelleys predicament. I think that in a strange way, men can relate to R Kelley and and underage girl. I alway catch grown men eyeing my 14 yr old daughter.johnwoo But how many "normal" people can relate to Michael's alleged sexual fascination with pre-prubescent boys?
Grown men who can relate to R Kelly and his predicament are, in my opinion, not normal.
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Reply #39 posted 11/19/03 1:19pm

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illimack said:

Does andybody think that the difference may be due to the differnt sex of the accusers. I know a lot of brothers that have seen the R kelly tape. They say that say that the girl didn't look 15. I have even heard comedians joke on televsion that the girls are more devloped now days thank to Mcdonalds so they could understand R. Kelleys predicament. I think that in a strange way, men can relate to R Kelley and and underage girl. I alway catch grown men eyeing my 14 yr old daughter.johnwoo But how many "normal" people can relate to Michael's alleged sexual fascination with pre-prubescent boys?


Does it really matter? Underage is underage...
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Reply #40 posted 11/19/03 1:21pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

illimack said:

Does andybody think that the difference may be due to the differnt sex of the accusers. I know a lot of brothers that have seen the R kelly tape. They say that say that the girl didn't look 15. I have even heard comedians joke on televsion that the girls are more devloped now days thank to Mcdonalds so they could understand R. Kelleys predicament. I think that in a strange way, men can relate to R Kelley and and underage girl. I alway catch grown men eyeing my 14 yr old daughter.johnwoo But how many "normal" people can relate to Michael's alleged sexual fascination with pre-prubescent boys?


Does it really matter? Underage is underage...


You know what pisses me off... the torment and emotional scars that remain after molestation for this child... If this story is true.
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Reply #41 posted 11/19/03 1:30pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

illimack said:

Does andybody think that the difference may be due to the differnt sex of the accusers. I know a lot of brothers that have seen the R kelly tape. They say that say that the girl didn't look 15. I have even heard comedians joke on televsion that the girls are more devloped now days thank to Mcdonalds so they could understand R. Kelleys predicament. I think that in a strange way, men can relate to R Kelley and and underage girl. I alway catch grown men eyeing my 14 yr old daughter.johnwoo But how many "normal" people can relate to Michael's alleged sexual fascination with pre-prubescent boys?


Does it really matter? Underage is underage...




I absolutely (sp) agree. I think that R. Kelley needs his ass thrown in jail. He did marry Aliyah when she was 15 and his shit is on tape. I'm just saying that I have heard a lot of men comment on the fact that they understand his predicament. While I have never heard anyone make the same claims about "understanding" Mike's.
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Reply #42 posted 11/19/03 1:39pm

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coincidentally I read this at the beginning of this week before MJ's raid...



http://www.nme.com/news/106384.htm


now have a look at this...


http://www.livedaily.com/news/5589.html
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Reply #43 posted 11/19/03 1:58pm

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Michael has 24-hour-a-day supervision with him for the specific reason to protect him from these claims. (NBC News via MTV.com)


well, let me just say that whoever is doing the supervising appears to be doing a hell of a job. give that guy a raise.

and who hired the "supervisor?" i bet it wasn't an impartial party.
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Reply #44 posted 11/19/03 2:28pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

First of all, this is not a MUSIC thread so please do not move it.

Question: does anyone know what the status is of the investigation of R. Kelly's child pornography and statutory rape charges?

It's a case where there is evidence that R engaged in sex with underaged girls and video taped it. Yet I do not recall this level of media or police scrutiny into the case.

Not only has R seemed to be able to shrug off those charges, but he has gone on to release one of his most successful albums to date, garner awards, and receive standing ovations.

MJ, on the other hand... well we just don't know really what the deal is. Of course MJ has a much higher profile.

Those sheriffs are def out for him $3 million bail; multiple charges; etc.


Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm
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Reply #45 posted 11/19/03 2:29pm

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lilmissmissy said:

Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


She's dead?
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Reply #46 posted 11/19/03 2:32pm

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CAMILLE4U said:

lilmissmissy said:

Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


She's dead?


Yeah she died. I'm talkin back in 1994 around-a-bouts.
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Reply #47 posted 11/19/03 2:36pm

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CAMILLE4U said:

lilmissmissy said:

Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


She's dead?


where've you been? lol
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Reply #48 posted 11/19/03 2:37pm

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lilmissmissy said:

CAMILLE4U said:

lilmissmissy said:

Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


She's dead?


Yeah she died. I'm talkin back in 1994 around-a-bouts.



If you get your parents approval (even if you're under-age), you can still get married. nod
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Reply #49 posted 11/19/03 2:37pm

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lilmissmissy said:

CAMILLE4U said:

lilmissmissy said:

Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


She's dead?


Yeah she died. I'm talkin back in 1994 around-a-bouts.


94? confuse


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Reply #50 posted 11/19/03 2:39pm

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Where'd you get that avatar? lol
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Reply #51 posted 11/19/03 2:39pm

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Marrk said:

lilmissmissy said:

CAMILLE4U said:

lilmissmissy said:

Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


She's dead?


Yeah she died. I'm talkin back in 1994 around-a-bouts.


94? confuse


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[This message was edited Wed Nov 19 14:38:07 PST 2003 by Marrk]


Missy's obviously smoked too much of the earth's abundant fruit.
She died just a couple of years ago in a plane crash after 'starring' in the abysmal adaptation of Anne Rice's genius Queen Of The Damned novel.
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Reply #52 posted 11/19/03 2:39pm

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Marrk said:

lilmissmissy said:

CAMILLE4U said:

lilmissmissy said:

Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


She's dead?


Yeah she died. I'm talkin back in 1994 around-a-bouts.


94? confuse


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[This message was edited Wed Nov 19 14:38:07 PST 2003 by Marrk]


OK...now I'M confused confuse hmm
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Reply #53 posted 11/19/03 2:40pm

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Where'd you get that avatar? lol

lol
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Reply #54 posted 11/19/03 2:40pm

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Marrk said:

Where'd you get that avatar? lol

ya'll are gonna confuse me now nuts
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Reply #55 posted 11/19/03 2:41pm

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Marrk said:

Where'd you get that avatar? lol

ya'll are gonna confuse me now nuts


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Reply #56 posted 11/19/03 2:42pm

summerdawn

lilmissmissy said:

Marrk said:

lilmissmissy said:

CAMILLE4U said:

lilmissmissy said:

Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


She's dead?


Yeah she died. I'm talkin back in 1994 around-a-bouts.


94? confuse


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[This message was edited Wed Nov 19 14:38:07 PST 2003 by Marrk]


OK...now I'M confused confuse hmm
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Do you mean back in 94 was when they were married? nod
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Reply #57 posted 11/19/03 2:42pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Marrk said:

Where'd you get that avatar? lol

ya'll are gonna confuse me now nuts


lol
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Reply #58 posted 11/19/03 2:43pm

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Number23 said:

Marrk said:

lilmissmissy said:

CAMILLE4U said:

lilmissmissy said:

Didnt R.Kelly marry Aaliyah (may she R.I.P) when she was like 16? And if so..how...like 16's still underage, how'd he do dat... hmm Or have i got my facts completely wrong hmm


She's dead?


Yeah she died. I'm talkin back in 1994 around-a-bouts.


94? confuse


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[This message was edited Wed Nov 19 14:38:07 PST 2003 by Marrk]



Missy's obviously smoked too much of the earth's abundant fruit.
She died just a couple of years ago in a plane crash after 'starring' in the abysmal adaptation of Anne Rice's genius Queen Of The Damned novel.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 19 14:40:08 PST 2003 by Number23]


sigh YEAH...i know dat one..she was filming here in Melbourne before her death!!! She was like 22 or sumfin at da timez. But i'm talkin back in 1994...1995...R.Kelly married da underage gal...he did! I remember nod Like everyone was talkin bout it! nod confuse :
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Reply #59 posted 11/19/03 2:43pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Marrk said:

Where'd you get that avatar? lol

ya'll are gonna confuse me now nuts


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hey, summerdawn! hug
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