does it make it right if you belong to a certain race and then use racist jokes about that race ???

i mean...isnt it all the same ???

It's all the same and it aint right.

Paisley said:

thank you girl

i remember the time my son...who is half black...came in our home and used the 'n' word...

i snapped on him in ways a person probably shouldnt ...but i will say this...his ass will NEVER use that word again

justkelley said:

Girl I know how ya feel that word makes me sick, whenever I hear someone say that word I wanna beat their

So, you're saying an Asian person shouldn't joke around about Asian stereotypes, and a black person shouldn't laugh at those stereotypes? And white people shouldn't make jokes about "white trash" or WASPs?

AnotherLoverToo said:

thats EXACTLY what im saying...

justkelley said:

I think people can take political correctness too far.
Race and other serious topics are absolutely viable material for comedy. Good comedy often has serious undertones. Self-effacing humour is often great for an easy laugh too, and it's good to be able to laugh at one's self.

Example - a lot of the great black American comics have built their early careers on ridiculing, parodying and debunking racial stereotypes about black people... and sometimes playing with such issues, especially when speaking to a predominately white audience.

Sure, racism isn't funny or cool. Does that mean I can't make jokes about common cultural stereotypes about Irish people? Of course I can. Of course if anyone else did it, I'd kick their arses

I don't think it's admirable in any way for people to passively let people know what they are thinking/feeling. If something is bothering you kelley, save us all the trouble of sifting through your posts that always imply (and yet, at the same time, never seem to say much at all, despite the vast number of them) and spit it out for gods sake!



sorry in advance, ian... ehehe

My view - if you confront stereotypes and illustrate how silly and ludicrous they are, you remove their power.

If you stick your head in the sand and pretend such views don't exist, we really don't get anywhere.

ian said:

thats exactly what im saying ian...where is the line ? if its ok for you to do it...then i may think its ok for me to do it...or my child may hear you and think its ok for him/her to do it...you see my point...??

racism is ugly...and hurtful..no matter where or who it comes from...the only way to stop it is to put it to an end...that means...comes from noone...

noone...

Natsume said:

Nah you have a point. This thread is obviously a reference to your comment so I think it's valid to mention it

ian said:

definitely, and the stereotypes that build up this kind of humor have to have had sprouted up from somewhere (eg. other groups making fun of them and classifying them as one way or another)

using the n word is much, MUCH different than from what we're talking about... you are comparing apples with oranges

I think it depends upon the people involved and the circumstances. It's not always bad or insulting--a lot of the time, like in paintsprayer's thread, it's used to make fun of racism and show how silly stereotypes are. And sometimes making jokes about it is empowering and takes back the power of the words.

One of my very best friends is Korean, but was brought here as an infant and is 100% American. One of the first times we did anything together, we went to a U2 concert with some friends and as we went through the McDonald's drivethru, she says to me "should I pretend I don't speak English"? We laughed our asses off, and it told me she's dealt with all kinds of assumptions on white people's part about her and has learned to laugh AT them and herself and it doesn't hurt her.

justkelley said:

I disagree. If you act as if some words and views are so scary and evil that they must be censored, removed from one's mind and never spoken... to me that just gives more power to such views, more power than they deserve.

I prefer direct confrontation. Racist viewpoints are inherently stupid and flawed and usually such views collapse under the slightest interrogation. Better to confront such views and illustrate how ridiculous they are, rendering them powerless.

My opinion of course.

I am getting confused with this thread and paintsprayers!

Natsume said:

well ok...i think that you were wrong to start that type of discussion in here...you may have ways about you that think thats funny...but there are others around you that dont...

racism is a hot topic around here...you know that...you are looking for an arguement...and if you really need one...you dont have to go much further to find it...

dont start putting me down because you screwed your words up and didnt have your 'following' that you hope to have...i dont have time for those childish games

justkelley said:

I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about, all I want is for you to stop being so goddamn passive and just say LOOK NATSUME YOU OFFENDED ME!

the end

not so hard, is it? please try it in the future, mmmkay?

Natsume said:

girl...grow up !!!

Oh I see, that's the way the thread is going huh?
Pity. Guess we'll have to lock it then.