Spiritual don't pay the bills. Money gets spent just the same, it doesn't matter where it came from. Making a success of any buisness or job is something to be proud of, all are better than begging and charity.

Its not my problem that you dont have any high regards for your spiritual self. I for one, I have always made sure that my money comes "clean". I do believe in Karma and I do believe in energy. I have made mistakes in my life too, but I have learned from them. To me it DOES matter where money comes from.

Prostitution is defined as - The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.

Source?

Not talking about it!

Phone sex operators are not "talking about it", they are faking sexual acts over the phone while making somebody else jack off. Dont get me wrong here, I am not against commercial phone sex or prostitution, I just wouldnt do it myself. Thats all.

I think it's the guys on the other end of the phone that have the issues.

True, those men have issues. But I believe that if you take advantage of those issues and feed those issues, it will be bad for your karma.

PREDOMINANT said:

soulpower said:

You keep saying you wouldnt do it, I wouldnt do it either and I doubt Predom would, you do not have to reiterate that in every post, we read it the first time

BUT! People do it everyday, in relationships, phone sex, teasing others, promising a loved one etc when they are really teasing them.

True, thats happening every day. But there is no intention of making money of the other behind that. Whats wrong if there are emotions involved? Nothing.

This is a business, a controlled business. At least the person on the phone is jacking off at home. Where is the difference when one teases in chatrooms etc etc, and nobody can stop someone from falling in "love" with them.

If one coldbloodedly makes somebody else fall in love with him for the sake of money or power, its wrong. No matter if its a phone sex business or chat room.

You may "love" your colleague in your office, that person who catches the same train as you. Its not really love, cos only one person is involved.

Yeah, but that would be quite one-sided, wouldnt it? Dont push me into the corner claiming that its wrong to have a crush on somebody. Thats not what we are talking about here. We are talking about business with sex but no emotion and sincerity involved.

Some people phone these lines for company, just company. So you think they shouldnt?

Its fake company. Because most phone sex operators wont tell the men what they truly think. They will tell them what they wanna hear. And many men are stupid enuff to believe it. That will fuck them up even more, and maby one day their hate for woman might drive them to something worse. Like I said, I believe its bad energy and only feeds bad energy.

If you wanna take that direction, then EVERYONE has prostituted themselves in some way in their lives.

Probably. But as soon as we find out that we did, we should learn from it.

How about someone picking up a chick and telling her all the things she wants to hear so you can get her into bed, or vice versa, that is using sex in the wrong way too, but it happens.

Right, thats very wrong.

Prostitution is defined as - The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.

Source?

REDFEATHERS said:

soulpower said:

The dictionary

You may "love" your colleague in your office, that person who catches the same train as you. Its not really love, cos only one person is involved.

Yeah, but that would be quite one-sided, wouldnt it? Dont push me into the corner claiming that its wrong to have a crush on somebody. Thats not what we are talking about here. We are talking about business with sex but no emotion and sincerity involved.

Wrong forum!

You mentioned LOVE saying some of these people fall in love with the phone operators, so i wasnt pushing you into a corner, I was just posting what you had originally said.

REDFEATHERS said:

Ahhh.. thats what you were referring to. I thought you were talking about mutual love.

Are strippers and lap dancers "prostituting" themselves too I wonder?

REDFEATHERS said:

Hmmm... good question. I think that takes a personal definition. I`d say yes as long as their dancing does not have an artistic purpose, but only is to satisfy the sexual need of a man.

We could get on the whole "If two people have sex and the guy has bought dinner, drinks and ballet tickets the woman must be a prostitute" argument here. But it isn't.

Thats because its crap. A woman doest fuck a man only to have a nice dinner and ballet ticket. She does it for the fun of it. And if not -- if she really gives her body not out of fun but to aquire some nice food -- it would be prostitution. Because she would give her body only to get something materialistic in return.

Prostitution is clearly defined. There is NO way phone sex (for cash) is prostitution.

Thats your opinion. I have a different one.

Ballet makes sound like such a nice evening, I was going to put Cinema, cheap and tacky . Ballet makes an evening, and guarantees sex too

This really is a silly analogy. Because, like I said above, only very few women would fuck a man whom they dont like in order to get ballet tix.

REDFEATHERS said:

Hmmm... good question. I think that takes a personal definition. I`d say yes as long as their dancing does not have an artistic purpose, but only is to satisfy the sexual need of a man.

PREDOMINANT said:

Well I dont wanna jack the thread totally and go off on a tangent, but alot of lap dancers/strippers ARE dancers who are waiting for their big break but unfortunately get mixed up in this shit. Yes, they are teasing men, yes they may rub their bodies against men for money, as it is a job, and they are doing it purely to get the men excited sexually.

Are gold diggers prostitutes? . The list goes on and on LOL.

REDFEATHERS said:

Of course there are strippers who are professionals who one day want to make it in the serious biz. But as long as they are dancing in strip joints, they are strippers. Because men wont say "Wow, look at how great she dances. She should be in ballet!". They will say "That bitch better take her tanga off quick!"

REDFEATHERS said:

Why are you guys bringing up more and more things which have absolutely nothing to do with the topic? Since when have golddiggers anything to do with selling sex?

I know it's silly, that was the point, if it doesn't fit the definition, it isn't prostitution, simple!

soulpower said:

Meaning...she is prostituting her body

They have sex and marry the man for money, they tease older men for money, hence prostituting themselves .

Meaning...she is prostituting her body