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Thread started 10/27/03 7:29am

Byron

This Truly Bothers Me... :(

I'm hoping this is "fake" in some way... sigh









Obviously, the smoking is what has the most immediate impact...but in my eyes, it's everything: the surroundings, the dirtiness of the child's clothes...just the fact that it looks as though this child will never experience "childhood", but instead will have adulthood forced upon him far too quickly and far too soon. Seriously...shit like this breaks my heart.

There's another thread on here that asks "What if you won an obscene amount of money...". I haven't read the thread, but I've always thought that if I were to have that level of income (whether thru earning or winning), the majority of it would go towards finding ways to improve the lives of so many children and their families. Working with the teenagers in South Central solidified this very real desire inside me many years ago. I'm not sure exactly what I'd do or how I'd do it...most likely would have to work with someone who has more intuitive ideas for helping children than I have. But there's no doubt in my mind or heart that that's what I'd do.
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Reply #1 posted 10/27/03 7:31am

irresistibleb1
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disbelief sigh
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Reply #2 posted 10/27/03 7:33am

applekisses

It bothers me too...I've seen these photos here before and I was really sort of shocked by the somewhat callous responses.
sigh
I just want to steal that boy away from all of that...

sad
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Reply #3 posted 10/27/03 7:33am

cborgman

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eek

disbelief
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #4 posted 10/27/03 7:33am

silverjean

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well,
i cant believe what im seeing...thats aweful! ana' REAL problem,
*... "ive always said, that if you have to ask for something more than once or twice, it wasnt yours in the first place"...*
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Reply #5 posted 10/27/03 7:33am

shausler

your right

that weave basket is so passe
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Reply #6 posted 10/27/03 7:34am

applekisses

shausler said:

your right

that weave basket is so passe


Shausie! no no no!
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Reply #7 posted 10/27/03 7:34am

shausler

boxed
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Reply #8 posted 10/27/03 7:35am

applekisses

shausler said:

boxed


hug
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Reply #9 posted 10/27/03 7:35am

Natsume

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omfg

One of my boyfriends in high school grew up in Indonesia and he was doing things like this - and worse - when he was a young child as well. We're talking 4 or 5. Even worse, his dad thought it was great entertainment, and would show off his son to his friends (and strangers). Not an isolated incident, which is even worse. When he got older, he never felt the need to 'rebel' by drinking or smoking because he had done it all at such an early age.

That was a tangent, though... I agree Byron, the smoking is bad enough but the rest is horrifying and heartbreaking.

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I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #10 posted 10/27/03 7:36am

Byron

applekisses said:

It bothers me too...I've seen these photos here before and I was really sort of shocked by the somewhat callous responses.
sigh
I just want to steal that boy away from all of that...

sad

So do I... sad

I had wondered if these photos had been posted before...I don't hang here nearly as much as I used to, so I thought they may have. Still...very potent images, so worth another thread.
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Reply #11 posted 10/27/03 7:37am

applekisses

Byron said:

applekisses said:

It bothers me too...I've seen these photos here before and I was really sort of shocked by the somewhat callous responses.
sigh
I just want to steal that boy away from all of that...

sad

So do I... sad

I had wondered if these photos had been posted before...I don't hang here nearly as much as I used to, so I thought they may have. Still...very potent images, so worth another thread.


nod Absolutely...and I'm glad that you brought them up again in this context. hug
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Reply #12 posted 10/27/03 8:01am

4jamiestarr

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hell U think that bothers U!! it bothers the hell out of me. I send this kid money 2 sponser him.now I know what he has been doing with my money.

http://www.prince.org/msg/100/64709

PEACE N B WiLD!!!
4jamiestarr
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Reply #13 posted 10/27/03 8:04am

AnotherLoverTo
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shausler said:

your right

that weave basket is so passe


falloff OMG! falloff
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Reply #14 posted 10/27/03 8:08am

AnotherLoverTo
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Seriously, though--if this picture is fake, there are a million "real life" situations that mirror this. So your botheration is well-founded.

There are so many battles against injustice to fight out there. I hope people pick one or two closest to their hearts, and get out there. You don't have to have money--just a little time and desire! nod

And while we're at it...

http://www.prince.org/msg/105/66740
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Reply #15 posted 10/27/03 9:01am

Sweeny79

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eek
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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Reply #16 posted 10/27/03 9:02am

sag10

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This is reality at its best.

Sadly, there are millions of children that live this way..
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Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect, it means you've decided to look beyond the imperfections... unknown
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Reply #17 posted 10/27/03 9:05am

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Besides the sadness of such a young kid smoking, I don't see anything wrong with this picture. He's got a decent haircut, his clothes aren't tattered and he looks healthy enough. I've been living in these parts for years and poverty is a real thing. But a kid like this won't ever see our side of the world and won't ever have a chance to miss it. He's probably not feeling our pity and chances are his life will be just as happy as your average Westerner. It would be unsafe to assume our 'richness' is something that would improve the quality of life and happiness of somebody like this kid.
Life it ain't real funky unless you got that orgPop.
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Reply #18 posted 10/27/03 9:08am

shausler

im equally offended by

a million rowandans getting meshedied


this is a grim globe we spin on
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Reply #19 posted 10/27/03 9:27am

Byron

sabaisabai said:

Besides the sadness of such a young kid smoking, I don't see anything wrong with this picture. He's got a decent haircut, his clothes aren't tattered and he looks healthy enough. I've been living in these parts for years and poverty is a real thing. But a kid like this won't ever see our side of the world and won't ever have a chance to miss it. He's probably not feeling our pity and chances are his life will be just as happy as your average Westerner. It would be unsafe to assume our 'richness' is something that would improve the quality of life and happiness of somebody like this kid.

I didn't mention anything about wealth or lack of...I mentioned the condition of his clothes (dirty, with holes), the (admittedly) seemingly less-than perfect conditions of his surroundings...as well as the indication that he will be deprived a childhood, instead having a far-too-early adulthood pushed upon him by various external pressures...the smoking, in reality, only underscores (or symbolizes) that concern in my eyes.
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Reply #20 posted 10/27/03 9:28am

PEJ

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That's just wrong... do you think he learned from your avatar? smile
To Sir, with Love
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Reply #21 posted 10/27/03 9:29am

shausler

my son is that size

i picture him like that for an instant


and i shiver
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Reply #22 posted 10/27/03 9:29am

shausler

PEJ said:

That's just wrong... do you think he learned from your avatar? smile




from you alright

i learned it from watching you!
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Reply #23 posted 10/27/03 9:31am

Freespirit

sabaisabai said:

Besides the sadness of such a young kid smoking, I don't see anything wrong with this picture. He's got a decent haircut, his clothes aren't tattered and he looks healthy enough. I've been living in these parts for years and poverty is a real thing. But a kid like this won't ever see our side of the world and won't ever have a chance to miss it. He's probably not feeling our pity and chances are his life will be just as happy as your average Westerner. It would be unsafe to assume our 'richness' is something that would improve the quality of life and happiness of somebody like this kid.


Byron I love your point heart... but I equally relate with sabaisabai as well. rose Although I have not been exposed to other parts of the world to physically experience all realities within it. I can "see" how physical actions that may seem crude and ill in make can cause wonderment and disbelief. I do know that some people (people I know) have made certain choices to live a certain way of life... that I at times just don't understand (perhaps never will). I also see how even through their chosen way (I highly believe in choice, given those choices are presented or willed), they can be content and happy even when faced with constant adversities. I speak of my biological mother and her life as it is today, her life has been interesting to say the very least. rose

Now as for the one who knows no different (maybe/maybe not), living in the "norms" of their society... how difficult it may be to live by the "norms" of what is unseen or quite possibly unknown somewhere far out of their reach or consciousmind of direct awareness.

I want to learn more... so much to truly become aware of, so much I don't have a clue about... but to approach all that comes my way with heart and an openminded perception, it truly my goal and main focus in life. peace rose

Now what did I just say... sigh kiss
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Reply #24 posted 10/27/03 9:32am

sag10

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Now what did I just say... sigh kiss[/quote]

Exactly. smile
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Reply #25 posted 10/27/03 9:34am

shausler

i apologize for making jokes

this bothers me as well
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Reply #26 posted 10/27/03 9:37am

Freespirit

sag10 said:

Now what did I just say... sigh kiss


Exactly. smile

As long as I know... smile

~Just one of those days... sigh rose
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Reply #27 posted 10/27/03 9:40am

Byron

Freespirit said:

Now as for the one who knows no different (maybe/maybe not), living in the "norms" of their society... how difficult it may be to live by the "norms" of what is unseen or quite possibly unknown somewhere far out of their reach or consciousmind of direct awareness.

I want to learn more... so much to truly become aware of, so much I don't have a clue about... but to approach all that comes my way with heart and an openminded perception, it truly my goal and main focus in life. peace rose

Now what did I just say... sigh kiss

I get what you just said... nod kiss

Both you and sabaisabai have very valid (and good) points...part of my thought process, I think, deals with an article I read long ago about how, at least in Western societies, the concept of "childhood" only recently took root within our culture...we see and value childhood and all it contains differently now than we did maybe 50-75 years ago. I guess I just saw this kid being robbed of his childhood sigh...and that's just a very potent sticking point within me at times.

Ps: check your email... wink rose
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Reply #28 posted 10/27/03 9:45am

Freespirit

Byron said:

Freespirit said:

Now as for the one who knows no different (maybe/maybe not), living in the "norms" of their society... how difficult it may be to live by the "norms" of what is unseen or quite possibly unknown somewhere far out of their reach or consciousmind of direct awareness.

I want to learn more... so much to truly become aware of, so much I don't have a clue about... but to approach all that comes my way with heart and an openminded perception, it truly my goal and main focus in life. peace rose

Now what did I just say... sigh kiss

I get what you just said... nod kiss

Both you and sabaisabai have very valid (and good) points...part of my thought process, I think, deals with an article I read long ago about how, at least in Western societies, the concept of "childhood" only recently took root within our culture...we see and value childhood and all it contains differently now than we did maybe 50-75 years ago. I guess I just saw this kid being robbed of his childhood sigh...and that's just a very potent sticking point within me at times.

Ps: check your email... wink rose


big grin hug a present you are... rose

shhh I knew you would understand... didn't want cause commotion around here. peace
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Reply #29 posted 10/27/03 9:48am

sabaisabai

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wave High Freespirit.

Byron said:

I guess I just saw this kid being robbed of his childhood sigh...and that's just a very potent sticking point within me at times.


There's also nothing to say this kid doesn't go to school.
I'm guessing, though I could be wrong, that this photo is from China, where a huge proportion of males smoke. If it's not recognized as a dangerous habit then it wouldn't be considered wrong for a kid to smoke as soon as able. ... oops, plenty of assumptions made in this paragraph!

Whatever the case, it's very difficult to look at a picture like this without imposing our own life views and experiences.
Life it ain't real funky unless you got that orgPop.
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