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Reply #60 posted 10/27/03 2:01pm

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wait - is this one of those teenagery things where you pretend and tell people you are pregnant in the hope of getting some attention / reactions... or out of a desire to tell people that you are sexually active at last confuse

Teenagers are complicated...



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Reply #61 posted 10/27/03 4:29pm

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ian said:

And anyway, if some teenage kid was careless enough to get herself pregnant, what can you expect? A medal? A pat on the back? C'mon now... people in this thread have been quite considerate and helpful, but what can you say to a problem like this...?

Hopefully it's a bad joke anyway.


that's what i'm saying...

people are saying congradulations like it's a great accomplishment to be 14 and knocked up... this girl should still be in middle/high school and getting her education...

most people can't even get a job at 14... how in thee hell is this kid gonna be supported...

i tell ya what's an accomplishment and deserving of a medal... if she had a job with a good income and strong and stable environment conducive to raising a child, then i would say congradulations... that would be an accomplishment... you were able to wait until you realized that situation was as ideal as is possible to bring a child into the world... way to go...

but i am NOT congradulating someone for being irresponsible and negligent... it should be obvious that she isn't responsible enough to have a kid based on the tone of the thread... "i'm 14 and pregnant... life is wonderful" type of shit... if she had any sort of maturity, she would not be speaking of the situation as lightly as she is...

and i'll tell you who i feel sorry for - the damn kid... a kid being raised by a kid... it's gonna be rough...

but like i said, i'll pray for y'all... cause you gonna need all the prayers you can get...

and like everyone else, i hope this is a damn joke... and if it is, this shit ain't funny and ain't a damn person 'round here laughing...

twocents

and i don't care how many of y'all muthafuckas call me cold-hearted or whatever... i am not being cold-hearted... i am being real... she needs to realize the severity of the situation...

and to the person who said "y'all are gonna make her cry"... she needs to be muthafuckin' crying right now... if i were 14 and pregnant, i'd be cryin' like a muthafucka... if she were crying, then at least it would show that she understood the situation at hand...

i mean, damn...

people need to wake the fuck up outta their cotton candy castles and step into the muthafuckin' real ass world...

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Reply #62 posted 10/27/03 4:31pm

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EllisDee said:

minneapolisgenius said:

EllisDee said:

well, say goodbye to your life...


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Ditto on that.



i'm sorry... it really saddens me that a 14 year old girl is pregnant after just losing her virginity a few weeks ago and people are like, "dancing jig... that's so grooovy... congrats... this is terrific"...

don't be feeding her no bullshit... this is not terrific or wonderful or groovy...

i know plenty of teenage parents, and i've never heard any of them say that they are glad it happened that way... you hear 'em say, "i wish i would have waited" and "should'a worn the jimmy hat" and shit...

that's just my 2 cents, y'all...




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Reply #63 posted 10/27/03 4:33pm

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the exact same age 3 of my female relatives got pregnant with their first children...disbelief just like ellis said, kiss the rest of your teenage years goodbye.
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Reply #64 posted 10/27/03 4:44pm

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If I recall correctly, isn't this the orger who just lost her virginity on a trip to Turkey a couple of months ago???
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Reply #65 posted 10/27/03 4:45pm

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Like most of you, it saddens me too that a 14 year old is pregnant.

However, what's done is done. Assuming it's true, the tone of her post seems to indicate she's happy about it. She's going to have a tough enough time over the coming months without the added pressure (and stigma) of being a mother at such a young age.

Whatever the truth, I wish you well girl.

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Reply #66 posted 10/27/03 4:49pm

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14 and having a child when she's still a child herself. Having a child is the greatest commitment you will ever make. I hope you have the love and support of your family because you are going to need it at your age.
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Reply #67 posted 10/27/03 4:56pm

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shausler said:

14?

That's what I didn't know about this either. eek
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Reply #68 posted 10/27/03 5:23pm

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JDINTERACTIVE said:

I dont think its anybody's business here 2 comment on whether HRB is right or wrong. Im sure all of us here have done things in the past which would warrant differences of opinion. On the flip side, this sort of thing should be kept privatly really I think.


Are you high? I am not preaching, but a 14 year old child more than likely isn't ready to raise one. Will you be there to help her? It's thinking like this that has too many teen mothers stuggling a ruff life alone. I can only give advice. I don't support a teenager being pregnant, but i will try to help her with advice and support if she needs anything.



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Reply #69 posted 10/27/03 5:24pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

EllisDee said:

ian said:

And anyway, if some teenage kid was careless enough to get herself pregnant, what can you expect? A medal? A pat on the back? C'mon now... people in this thread have been quite considerate and helpful, but what can you say to a problem like this...?

Hopefully it's a bad joke anyway.


that's what i'm saying...

people are saying congradulations like it's a great accomplishment to be 14 and knocked up... this girl should still be in middle/high school and getting her education...

most people can't even get a job at 14... how in thee hell is this kid gonna be supported...

i tell ya what's an accomplishment and deserving of a medal... if she had a job with a good income and strong and stable environment conducive to raising a child, then i would say congradulations... that would be an accomplishment... you were able to wait until you realized that situation was as ideal as is possible to bring a child into the world... way to go...

but i am NOT congradulating someone for being irresponsible and negligent... it should be obvious that she isn't responsible enough to have a kid based on the tone of the thread... "i'm 14 and pregnant... life is wonderful" type of shit... if she had any sort of maturity, she would not be speaking of the situation as lightly as she is...

and i'll tell you who i feel sorry for - the damn kid... a kid being raised by a kid... it's gonna be rough...

but like i said, i'll pray for y'all... cause you gonna need all the prayers you can get...

and like everyone else, i hope this is a damn joke... and if it is, this shit ain't funny and ain't a damn person 'round here laughing...

twocents

and i don't care how many of y'all muthafuckas call me cold-hearted or whatever... i am not being cold-hearted... i am being real... she needs to realize the severity of the situation...

and to the person who said "y'all are gonna make her cry"... she needs to be muthafuckin' crying right now... if i were 14 and pregnant, i'd be cryin' like a muthafucka... if she were crying, then at least it would show that she understood the situation at hand...

i mean, damn...

people need to wake the fuck up outta their cotton candy castles and step into the muthafuckin' real ass world...

nod...


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Nailed it. The adults need to get real in here. If you have ever raised children, you know what a task she has ahead of her.
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Reply #70 posted 10/27/03 5:27pm

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no 14 year old should be havin no baby..yes I know I used double negatives.
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Reply #71 posted 10/27/03 5:42pm

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NuPwrSoul said:

EllisDee said:

ian said:

And anyway, if some teenage kid was careless enough to get herself pregnant, what can you expect? A medal? A pat on the back? C'mon now... people in this thread have been quite considerate and helpful, but what can you say to a problem like this...?

Hopefully it's a bad joke anyway.


that's what i'm saying...

people are saying congradulations like it's a great accomplishment to be 14 and knocked up... this girl should still be in middle/high school and getting her education...

most people can't even get a job at 14... how in thee hell is this kid gonna be supported...

i tell ya what's an accomplishment and deserving of a medal... if she had a job with a good income and strong and stable environment conducive to raising a child, then i would say congradulations... that would be an accomplishment... you were able to wait until you realized that situation was as ideal as is possible to bring a child into the world... way to go...

but i am NOT congradulating someone for being irresponsible and negligent... it should be obvious that she isn't responsible enough to have a kid based on the tone of the thread... "i'm 14 and pregnant... life is wonderful" type of shit... if she had any sort of maturity, she would not be speaking of the situation as lightly as she is...

and i'll tell you who i feel sorry for - the damn kid... a kid being raised by a kid... it's gonna be rough...

but like i said, i'll pray for y'all... cause you gonna need all the prayers you can get...

and like everyone else, i hope this is a damn joke... and if it is, this shit ain't funny and ain't a damn person 'round here laughing...

twocents

and i don't care how many of y'all muthafuckas call me cold-hearted or whatever... i am not being cold-hearted... i am being real... she needs to realize the severity of the situation...

and to the person who said "y'all are gonna make her cry"... she needs to be muthafuckin' crying right now... if i were 14 and pregnant, i'd be cryin' like a muthafucka... if she were crying, then at least it would show that she understood the situation at hand...

i mean, damn...

people need to wake the fuck up outta their cotton candy castles and step into the muthafuckin' real ass world...

nod...


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Reply #72 posted 10/27/03 5:45pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

the exact same age 3 of my female relatives got pregnant with their first children...disbelief just like ellis said, kiss the rest of your teenage years goodbye.


not just teenage years, but life period... she will most likely spend the rest of her life struggling to make ends meet... and there is no way that she is emotionally or mentally ready for this... no way... life is going to be one big ass uphill struggle...

i really, really hope her support system is strong... and i hope for the best...
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Reply #73 posted 10/27/03 5:47pm

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CtheUncanny said:

NuPwrSoul said:

EllisDee said:

ian said:

And anyway, if some teenage kid was careless enough to get herself pregnant, what can you expect? A medal? A pat on the back? C'mon now... people in this thread have been quite considerate and helpful, but what can you say to a problem like this...?

Hopefully it's a bad joke anyway.


that's what i'm saying...

people are saying congradulations like it's a great accomplishment to be 14 and knocked up... this girl should still be in middle/high school and getting her education...

most people can't even get a job at 14... how in thee hell is this kid gonna be supported...

i tell ya what's an accomplishment and deserving of a medal... if she had a job with a good income and strong and stable environment conducive to raising a child, then i would say congradulations... that would be an accomplishment... you were able to wait until you realized that situation was as ideal as is possible to bring a child into the world... way to go...

but i am NOT congradulating someone for being irresponsible and negligent... it should be obvious that she isn't responsible enough to have a kid based on the tone of the thread... "i'm 14 and pregnant... life is wonderful" type of shit... if she had any sort of maturity, she would not be speaking of the situation as lightly as she is...

and i'll tell you who i feel sorry for - the damn kid... a kid being raised by a kid... it's gonna be rough...

but like i said, i'll pray for y'all... cause you gonna need all the prayers you can get...

and like everyone else, i hope this is a damn joke... and if it is, this shit ain't funny and ain't a damn person 'round here laughing...

twocents

and i don't care how many of y'all muthafuckas call me cold-hearted or whatever... i am not being cold-hearted... i am being real... she needs to realize the severity of the situation...

and to the person who said "y'all are gonna make her cry"... she needs to be muthafuckin' crying right now... if i were 14 and pregnant, i'd be cryin' like a muthafucka... if she were crying, then at least it would show that she understood the situation at hand...

i mean, damn...

people need to wake the fuck up outta their cotton candy castles and step into the muthafuckin' real ass world...

nod...


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Nailed it. The adults need to get real in here. If you have ever raised children, you know what a task she has ahead of her.


this what has me trippin'... people are talking about it like raising kids ain't no thang... we must not have many parents here on the org... and to those that do... think of how hard it is to raise kids when you start having 'em in your 20s, 30s, or even 40s... raising kids is hard no matter what age you start at... but it is especially and ridiculously hard if you start at 14...
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Reply #74 posted 10/27/03 5:50pm

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EllisDee said:

CtheUncanny said:


Nailed it. The adults need to get real in here. If you have ever raised children, you know what a task she has ahead of her.


this what has me trippin'... people are talking about it like raising kids ain't no thang... we must not have many parents here on the org... and to those that do... think of how hard it is to raise kids when you start having 'em in your 20s, 30s, or even 40s... raising kids is hard no matter what age you start at... but it is especially and ridiculously hard if you start at 14...

I think people like to say what they think others want to hear. Right now the ones who care most will be brutally honest with her. She may come out of this fine(and i hope she does) but history says otherwise.
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Reply #75 posted 10/27/03 6:03pm

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CtheUncanny said:

EllisDee said:

CtheUncanny said:


Nailed it. The adults need to get real in here. If you have ever raised children, you know what a task she has ahead of her.


this what has me trippin'... people are talking about it like raising kids ain't no thang... we must not have many parents here on the org... and to those that do... think of how hard it is to raise kids when you start having 'em in your 20s, 30s, or even 40s... raising kids is hard no matter what age you start at... but it is especially and ridiculously hard if you start at 14...

I think people like to say what they think others want to hear. Right now the ones who care most will be brutally honest with her. She may come out of this fine(and i hope she does) but history says otherwise.


Actually, most people on this thread have reacted in a negative way. I don't see that many people supporting her.

I don't think that many of us who posted at the beginning of the thread actually knew that she was 14 ... I still don't know that she is for sure, nor that she's really pregnant.

I don't know whether I'm one of the people you're referring to, but I have said what I really feel, not what I want anyone to hear. The truth is that I don't feel that being "brutally" honest is a help to anyone at this stage. She didn't post that she was in a dilemma over whether to keep the baby or not. She posted that she was pregnant (with a smile).

I think words can be really hurtful. I can only imagine what it would be like to be 14 and pregnant, and then to read some of the comments written here. I don't think anyone on here has suggested that it's a good idea for someone so young to be having a baby but, given that it's happening, I don't really see what use it is in criticising her so heavily.
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Reply #76 posted 10/27/03 6:22pm

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Raspberry said:

CtheUncanny said:

EllisDee said:

CtheUncanny said:


Nailed it. The adults need to get real in here. If you have ever raised children, you know what a task she has ahead of her.


this what has me trippin'... people are talking about it like raising kids ain't no thang... we must not have many parents here on the org... and to those that do... think of how hard it is to raise kids when you start having 'em in your 20s, 30s, or even 40s... raising kids is hard no matter what age you start at... but it is especially and ridiculously hard if you start at 14...

I think people like to say what they think others want to hear. Right now the ones who care most will be brutally honest with her. She may come out of this fine(and i hope she does) but history says otherwise.


Actually, most people on this thread have reacted in a negative way. I don't see that many people supporting her.

I don't think that many of us who posted at the beginning of the thread actually knew that she was 14 ... I still don't know that she is for sure, nor that she's really pregnant.

I don't know whether I'm one of the people you're referring to, but I have said what I really feel, not what I want anyone to hear. The truth is that I don't feel that being "brutally" honest is a help to anyone at this stage. She didn't post that she was in a dilemma over whether to keep the baby or not. She posted that she was pregnant (with a smile).

I think words can be really hurtful. I can only imagine what it would be like to be 14 and pregnant, and then to read some of the comments written here. I don't think anyone on here has suggested that it's a good idea for someone so young to be having a baby but, given that it's happening, I don't really see what use it is in criticising her so heavily.


Have you ever raised kids? Have you known a teenager who had to raise a child alone? I have done and seen both. It is no picnic. Hell when i had my kids at 25 i wish someone had been more stern with me. It is the doctoreverythingwillbealright attitude that is screwing our future generations over. If i come across a little over the top it is because my daughter is damn near her age. It would kill me if that happened to her. I would support her to the end but i would feel bad for the fact she would need a miracle or a bunch of people with free time to have a chance at a decent life.




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Reply #77 posted 10/27/03 6:27pm

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Raspberry said:

Like most of you, it saddens me too that a 14 year old is pregnant.

However, what's done is done. Assuming it's true, the tone of her post seems to indicate she's happy about it. She's going to have a tough enough time over the coming months without the added pressure (and stigma) of being a mother at such a young age.

Whatever the truth, I wish you well girl.

xxx






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Reply #78 posted 10/27/03 6:28pm

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Raspberry said:

Actually, most people on this thread have reacted in a negative way. I don't see that many people supporting her.
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thats because "I dont know nuthin 'bout birthin no babies"-Gone With The Wind
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Reply #79 posted 10/27/03 6:32pm

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What if... and I repeat again WHAT IF she's really not 14 or pregnant... like what if she is actually a he just messin with us? Just a thought...








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Reply #80 posted 10/27/03 6:32pm

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what if she responded to this here thread

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Reply #81 posted 10/27/03 6:36pm

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CtheUncanny said:

Have you ever raised kids? Have you known a teenager who had to raise a child alone? I have done and seen both. It is no picnic. Hell when i had my kids at 25 i wish someone had been more stern with me. It is the doctoreverythingwillbealright attitude that is screwing our future generations over. If i come across a little over the top it is because my daughter is damn near her age. It would kill me if that happened to her. I would support her to the end but i would feel bad for the fact she would need a miracle or a bunch of people with free time to have a chance at a decent life.


Look, all I'm trying to say is that a lot of posts here have been very judgmental. Offering advice is one thing, but the nature of some of the posts here appear to be hurtful to me (as an outsider) looking at them.

I'm not going to type criticisms aimed at HerRoyalBadness here. My own feelings on the subject of teenagers bringing up children are very different to what you might expect (and I do have strong feelings on the subject). But by airing them here and aiming them at one teenager in particular I don't think it will change the world and stop these things happening, nor do I think it is the best thing for her to be hearing right now.

JustKelley has just posted an excellent thread, offering advice and perspective on the matter. She has not, in my opinion, been judgemental. I support that thread and hope that HerRoyalBadness reads it and takes note too.
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Reply #82 posted 10/27/03 6:37pm

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PEJ said:

Raspberry said:

Like most of you, it saddens me too that a 14 year old is pregnant.

However, what's done is done. Assuming it's true, the tone of her post seems to indicate she's happy about it. She's going to have a tough enough time over the coming months without the added pressure (and stigma) of being a mother at such a young age.

Whatever the truth, I wish you well girl.

xxx






no offence, but are you by chance republican? biggrin

Pej, I am not American. We don't have republicans and democrats here.
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Reply #83 posted 10/27/03 6:41pm

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Raspberry said:

PEJ said:

Raspberry said:

Like most of you, it saddens me too that a 14 year old is pregnant.

However, what's done is done. Assuming it's true, the tone of her post seems to indicate she's happy about it. She's going to have a tough enough time over the coming months without the added pressure (and stigma) of being a mother at such a young age.

Whatever the truth, I wish you well girl.

xxx




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no offence, but are you by chance republican? biggrin

Pej, I am not American. We don't have republicans and democrats here.
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Raspberry said:

CtheUncanny said:

Have you ever raised kids? Have you known a teenager who had to raise a child alone? I have done and seen both. It is no picnic. Hell when i had my kids at 25 i wish someone had been more stern with me. It is the doctoreverythingwillbealright attitude that is screwing our future generations over. If i come across a little over the top it is because my daughter is damn near her age. It would kill me if that happened to her. I would support her to the end but i would feel bad for the fact she would need a miracle or a bunch of people with free time to have a chance at a decent life.


Look, all I'm trying to say is that a lot of posts here have been very judgmental. Offering advice is one thing, but the nature of some of the posts here appear to be hurtful to me (as an outsider) looking at them.

I'm not going to type criticisms aimed at HerRoyalBadness here. My own feelings on the subject of teenagers bringing up children are very different to what you might expect (and I do have strong feelings on the subject). But by airing them here and aiming them at one teenager in particular I don't think it will change the world and stop these things happening, nor do I think it is the best thing for her to be hearing right now.

JustKelley has just posted an excellent thread, offering advice and perspective on the matter. She has not, in my opinion, been judgemental. I support that thread and hope that HerRoyalBadness reads it and takes note too.

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EllisDee said:

minneapolisgenius said:

EllisDee said:

well, say goodbye to your life...


disbelief...

Ditto on that.



i'm sorry... it really saddens me that a 14 year old girl is pregnant after just losing her virginity a few weeks ago and people are like, "dancing jig... that's so grooovy... congrats... this is terrific"...

don't be feeding her no bullshit... this is not terrific or wonderful or groovy...

i know plenty of teenage parents, and i've never heard any of them say that they are glad it happened that way... you hear 'em say, "i wish i would have waited" and "should'a worn the jimmy hat" and shit...

that's just my 2 cents, y'all...



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something here fishyer than

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shausler said:

something here fishyer than

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nod I think it's fake, but it's so not funny disbelief
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Reply #88 posted 10/27/03 7:28pm

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shausler said:

something here fishyer than

joan collins sitz bath



nod I think it's fake, but it's so not funny disbelief


I really hope it is fake. I will be able to laugh if it is fake. Will have shaken the shit out of me but i would be able to laugh.
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CtheUncanny said:

Sweeny79 said:

shausler said:

something here fishyer than

joan collins sitz bath



nod I think it's fake, but it's so not funny disbelief


I really hope it is fake. I will be able to laugh if it is fake. Will have shaken the shit out of me but i would be able to laugh.


I won't laugh and i already am shaken up. sad and mad
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