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Thread started 10/24/03 3:02pm

Moonbeam

How much of what we like is a product of where we live?

I was just thinking about this the other day. I put on a funk compilation I made, and I remembered hearing a countdown of Detroit's greatest all time dance songs.

The top 3 were:

Prince- 1999
Gap Band- You Dropped a Bomb on Me
Stevie Wonder- My Eyes Don't Cry

All three of those songs rank as all-time favorites. I started to wonder if that was a product of my background/exposure to them or genuine interest? I'm leaning towards genuine interest and love, but I know that part of my interest stems from my roots. Those 3 songs really do represent my roots pretty well.
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Reply #1 posted 10/24/03 3:18pm

teller

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Much. You're not an alien, my friend. Neither with respect to this earth, where you grew up, nor with respect to your home town, where you grew up, nor with respect to your personal circumstance, where you you grew up.

If a tree grew up in zero gravity, would it not extend its leaves in all directions?
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #2 posted 10/24/03 3:20pm

cborgman

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not much musically... i have always been isolated as a prince fan, and most of the people i like most notabley kevin gilbert and P-funk, were not brought on by anyone around me.

most of the people i grew up around were into pearl jam, metallica, 311, etc.

i like those groups, but not my style
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #3 posted 10/24/03 3:21pm

teller

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Where we live isn't always a geographic thing. wink
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #4 posted 10/24/03 3:23pm

Moonbeam

teller said:

Much. You're not an alien, my friend. Neither with respect to this earth, where you grew up, nor with respect to your home town, where you grew up, nor with respect to your personal circumstance, where you you grew up.

If a tree grew up in zero gravity, would it not extend its leaves in all directions?


Certainly growing up in the US has given me great exposure to music. But it has also given me exposure to music I hate, that many of my friends and peers love. I'm just curious if in those "early days" I was convinced to like what I like or if I just had natural "funk."
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Reply #5 posted 10/24/03 3:23pm

cborgman

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teller said:

Where we live isn't always a geographic thing. wink


touche...
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #6 posted 10/24/03 3:26pm

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the one thing i can say is that when we were growing up, we were not allowed to listen to anything other than religious music and disney, thanks to my fathers very strict relgious beliefs (the man inked out all instances of the tile "lord" from my books because he felt the british were being sacreligious by calling someone lord boofoo. rolleyes )... but his weakness was motown. he had motown records hidden away that i found, and loved, so i guess i could trace a lot of my musical tastes (prince, P-funk, stevie wonder, etc) to that...
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #7 posted 10/24/03 3:26pm

Chico319

Sure. Why not? I think your environment has a lot of influence on your musical choices. Also certain music is more popular in some areas than others. We relate to what is around, and what reminds us of those times.
Genuine interest of course, is a factor. I genuinely LOVE Freestyle! I also realize it's because it was being played a lot in the area I grew up in. But I think that goes with just about anything. We relate to what is familiar. And sometimes we don't. :GRIN:
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Reply #8 posted 10/24/03 3:28pm

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Regardless, you cannot enjoy angry music if you're not an angry person. Substitute your favorite or least favorite emotion and the principle holds. Music resonantes with our "sense of life." Not just how we feel today, but with how we feel about life.
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #9 posted 10/24/03 3:29pm

Moonbeam

teller said:

Regardless, you cannot enjoy angry music if you're not an angry person. Substitute your favorite or least favorite emotion and the principle holds. Music resonantes with our "sense of life." Not just how we feel today, but with how we feel about life.


This is definitely true, but how do you think location plays into it? There are certainly things that were big in Michigan that I DIDN'T like as well.
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Reply #10 posted 10/24/03 3:33pm

teller

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Moonbeam said:

teller said:

Regardless, you cannot enjoy angry music if you're not an angry person. Substitute your favorite or least favorite emotion and the principle holds. Music resonantes with our "sense of life." Not just how we feel today, but with how we feel about life.


This is definitely true, but how do you think location plays into it? There are certainly things that were big in Michigan that I DIDN'T like as well.

Yeah...there was a lot of country music where I grew up, and I hated it. And yet--it resonates with my sense of life. I discovered it at the age of 30 and appreciate it now.

In other words...you are always you...
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #11 posted 10/25/03 5:32am

JDINTERACTIVE

As far as my home town is concerned, Sheffield in the UK, I have a reason 2 be proud as far as the music scene is concerned. Sheffield is famous or infamous depending on Ur view 4 popular '80s bands-The Human League, ABC and Heaven 17 aswell as The Thompson Twins and rockers Def Leppard.More contemporary Sheffield can also boast as 2 producing Pulp, The Longpigs and Moloko. Yet lets also not 4get Joe 'Five Women' Cocker, Paul Carrack, and crooner Tony Christie. Dave Berry, famous 4 writing 'The Crying Game' lives in my village/town Dronfield. Gomez, another popular indie band (not so much now) went 2 Sheffield University.Speaking of Sheffield University, Eddie Izzard went there.
Other famous folk from Sheffield include of cause the actor Sean Bean (Lord of the Rings, Goldeneye, and TV's 'Sharp), Michael 'Monty Python' Palin and Diana Rigg who starred in the 60s series 'The Avengers'.
Oh and yes, Peter Stringfellow is from Sheffield. redface

I myself feel quite proud of Sheffield and its cultural heritage whether its good or bad. I feel it has in some ways influenced my interest in the arts greatly.
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Reply #12 posted 10/25/03 5:34am

TRON

Cool thread. I missed this one. I'll get back to it, cuz I think there's a lot of truth to this idea.
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Reply #13 posted 10/25/03 5:35am

Ardeo

Well, we have Rick Waller



boxed

thats it.
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Reply #14 posted 10/25/03 9:52am

CAMILLE4U

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I'm from Essex and I love slutty teenage girls.
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Reply #15 posted 10/25/03 9:54am

Ardeo

CAMILLE4U said:

I'm from Essex and I love slutty teenage girls.


highfive

those slutty girls with the real bad attitude problems?

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Reply #16 posted 10/25/03 10:06am

CAMILLE4U

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Ardeo said:

CAMILLE4U said:

I'm from Essex and I love slutty teenage girls.


highfive

those slutty girls with the real bad attitude problems?

wink


Nothing a little white powder in their Bacardi Breezers won't solve.
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Reply #17 posted 10/25/03 10:07am

Ardeo

CAMILLE4U said:

Ardeo said:

CAMILLE4U said:

I'm from Essex and I love slutty teenage girls.


highfive

those slutty girls with the real bad attitude problems?

wink


Nothing a little white powder in their Bacardi Breezers won't solve.



come on C, u know u can make them open up without that lil' white powder wink
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Reply #18 posted 10/25/03 10:28am

CAMILLE4U

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Ardeo said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Ardeo said:

CAMILLE4U said:

I'm from Essex and I love slutty teenage girls.


highfive

those slutty girls with the real bad attitude problems?

wink


Nothing a little white powder in their Bacardi Breezers won't solve.



come on C, u know u can make them open up without that lil' white powder wink


I know, but it's so much easier.
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Reply #19 posted 10/25/03 10:29am

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NB: Just kidding. Druging girls 4 sex is not cool!
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Reply #20 posted 10/25/03 10:34am

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im sure i have a lot of KANSAS CITY in me...nod

i am all about the chiefs woot!, i like BBQ drool...love that KC jazz touch yay!...and i love me a cowboy worship...so yeah...would i be this person if i wasnt here ? hmmm
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Reply #21 posted 10/25/03 11:49am

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This is a great thread. I think more than location absolutely dictating one's artistic likes and dislikes, it simply sets the paradigm. As we become exposed to more, our "universe" expands, and what we like and dislike of it is dependent upon personal sensibilities and circumstance...

My parents only listened to blues, country and gospel. I wasn't crazy about any of those genres early on, so I didn't even think I liked music -- aside from TV show themes -- until about age 5.
bored

At school, my closest friends listened to r&b, then pop/rock, then hip hop. R&B was most accessible to me, because I was familiar with its rhythm and "soul" (or angst) from my parents' r&b and blues. fro When MTV came along, we were exposed to the pop/rock aesthetic, but I could get into it a lot moreso because I had grown up familiar with "white" country music. headbang When hip hop surfaced, it was an amazing marriage of genres -- it was heir to the funk, soul and political voice of "black" blues and r&b, yet it sampled freely from "white" pop/rock instrumentation! I was like a kid in a candy store. woot!

I got a job in a really Bohemian wrecka-sto at age 17. I knew blues, gospel, country, r&b, pop/rock and hip hop, and I thought I was da man! But the wierdos I worked with were into all kinds of "far-out" genres and sub-genres -- industrial, trance, punk, drone, rag, ska, reggae, meringue, salsa, jazz, bee-bop, classical, baroque, chants, ragas, liturgical, ancient cantatas, etc. omg It was heaven!

Now, years later, my tastes are definitely personal -- all my friends think I have the weirdest, most undefinable musical sensibilities in the world. But I credit a background that enabled me to look for certain dynamics in music my friends from the same neighborhood might miss.
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Reply #22 posted 10/25/03 12:34pm

Natsume

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Moonbeam said:

Stevie Wonder- My Eyes Don't Cry

woot!

I remember playing this one night in Santa Cruz, and same with the Gap Band... good times, Ian!

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[This message was edited Sat Oct 25 12:34:40 PDT 2003 by Natsume]
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #23 posted 10/27/03 11:05pm

Christopher

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Moonbeam said:

I was just thinking about this the other day. I put on a funk compilation I made, and I remembered hearing a countdown of Detroit's greatest all time dance songs.

The top 3 were:

Prince- 1999
Gap Band- You Dropped a Bomb on Me
Stevie Wonder- My Eyes Don't Cry

All three of those songs rank as all-time favorites. I started to wonder if that was a product of my background/exposure to them or genuine interest? I'm leaning towards genuine interest and love, but I know that part of my interest stems from my roots. Those 3 songs really do represent my roots pretty well.





i think its all a genuine interest ian or else you'd be distancing yourself from all that...



btw ian...Gap Band- You Dropped a Bomb on Me i seen that video recently... just thought you'd like to know that bad boy has a video mr.green
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Reply #24 posted 10/27/03 11:06pm

Moonbeam

Christopher said:

Moonbeam said:

I was just thinking about this the other day. I put on a funk compilation I made, and I remembered hearing a countdown of Detroit's greatest all time dance songs.

The top 3 were:

Prince- 1999
Gap Band- You Dropped a Bomb on Me
Stevie Wonder- My Eyes Don't Cry

All three of those songs rank as all-time favorites. I started to wonder if that was a product of my background/exposure to them or genuine interest? I'm leaning towards genuine interest and love, but I know that part of my interest stems from my roots. Those 3 songs really do represent my roots pretty well.





i think its all a genuine interest ian or else you'd be distancing yourself from all that...



btw ian...Gap Band- You Dropped a Bomb on Me i seen that video recently... just thought you'd like to know that bad boy has a video mr.green


I know at least part of it is genuine interest. I was exposed to country too and hated it. But when I hear those songs, I think of home and I feel at home. I wonder if that is why I love them so much instead of just enjoying them for what they are.

I've never seen the video!
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Reply #25 posted 10/27/03 11:12pm

NotoriousJ

I think it is more of what we like and what others around us like...cause all ya hear in good ol Indiana is that there music they call country. barf Thank god I do not have to hear that shit on every radio station anymore. Unless you are my parents, then they raise you on the good shit, such as the following.


-My mom

The Jackson 5
The Doors
Pink Floyd
Jimi Hendryx
Janis Joplin
The temptations
Rod Stewart rolleyes there is a story behing this one lol
BeeGee's
CREED-hehe we rock out to this together woot!

-My Dad
Blondie
Abba
Tina Turner
Bob Segar
The Jackson 5
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Reply #26 posted 10/27/03 11:14pm

Moonbeam

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-My Dad
Blondie


Really? I LOVE Blondie. Do you own anything of theirs?
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Reply #27 posted 10/27/03 11:16pm

NotoriousJ

Moonbeam said:

NotoriousJ said:


-My Dad
Blondie


Really? I LOVE Blondie. Do you own anything of theirs?



I yanked my dad's cd of their greatest hits...but I think he yanked it back pissed I would have to look in my cd case to find out for sure. Tina and Debbie are two of my daddy's favorite women.
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Reply #28 posted 10/27/03 11:17pm

Moonbeam

NotoriousJ said:

Moonbeam said:

NotoriousJ said:


-My Dad
Blondie


Really? I LOVE Blondie. Do you own anything of theirs?



I yanked my dad's cd of their greatest hits...but I think he yanked it back pissed I would have to look in my cd case to find out for sure. Tina and Debbie are two of my daddy's favorite women.


I need to send you some stuff. I've got all of their albums and lots of remixes, singles, etc.
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Reply #29 posted 10/27/03 11:19pm

Moonbeam

Blondie stuff I own:

CDs:

Blondie Blondie 1976
Blondie Blondie 1976 Remastered
Blondie Plastic Letters 1977
Blondie Plastic Letters 1977 Remastered
Blondie Parallel Lines 1978
Blondie Parallel Lines 1978 Remastered
Blondie Eat to the Beat 1979
Blondie Eat to the Beat 1979 Remastered
Blondie Autoamerican 1980
Blondie Autoamerican 1980 Remastered
Blondie The Hunter 1982
Blondie The Hunter 1982 Remastered
Blondie The Platinum Collection 1994
Blondie The Platinum Collection 1994
Blondie Remixed, Remade, Remodeled 1995
Blondie Atomic* 1995
Blondie Picture This Live 1997
Blondie Atomix 1998
Blondie No Exit 1999 3 bonus live tracks
Blondie No Exit 1999 Autographed
Blondie Nothing Is Real But the Girl^ 1999 Germany
Blondie Live 1999
Blondie Greatest Hits 2002
Debbie Harry Koo Koo 1981
Debbie Harry Once More Into the Bleach 1988
Debbie Harry Deaf, Dumb, and Blonde 1989
Debbie Harry Debravation 1993

Tapes:

Blondie Plastic Letters 1977
Blondie Parallel Lines 1978
Blondie Eat to the Beat 1979
Blondie Autoamerican 1980
Blondie The Best of Blondie 1981
Blondie Remixed, Remade, Remodeled 1995
Debbie Harry Koo Koo 1981

Records:

Blondie Blondie 1976
Blondie Plastic Letters 1977
Blondie Parallel Lines 1978
Blondie Heart of Glass* 1978
Blondie Eat to the Beat 1979
Blondie Atomic* 1980
Blondie Atomic^ 1980
Blondie Call Me^ 1980
Blondie Autoamerican 1980
Blondie The Tide Is High^ 1980
Blondie Rapture^ 1981
Blondie The Hunter 1982
Blondie Island of Lost Souls^ 1982
Blondie War Child* 1982
Blondie Rapture* 1994 Promo
Blondie Rapture* 1994 Promo
Debbie Harry Koo Koo 1981
Debbie Harry Backfired^ 1981
Debbie Harry The Jam Was Moving^ 1981
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