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Thread started 10/23/03 11:33pm

Lammastide

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If a man is considered guilty for what goes on in his mind...

disbelief OK, I admit it. I have a sinister streak where harboring grudges is concrned. But I swear -- it's ONLY with people who dick me over for zero good reason, because I'm generally the nicest guy you'll ever meet.

Earlier this year, I got unfairly canned from a job (some of y'all might recall my "blue period" last spring), and I found out a few weeks later that my boss not only got the ax as well, but just slightly avoided an embezzlement lawsuit. I tried not to gloat, but, hey, I'm human.

Anyway, I found out tonight that a guy I was sort of "dating" about two years back -- who emotionally abused me (no hyperbole), used me for money and academic, social and career connections, had no fewer than four HIV scares with other men while we were together, started shooting up meth behind my back, spread rumors about me to mutual friends, and just about everything else a guy could do to another human being -- broke his back after falling 20 feet from a ladder last month! He apparently missed severing his spinal cord by a single inch!

Know what? My reaction wasn't pity or gratefulness that he survived. It was, "Damn... Only one more inch to go." omfg

shake Part of me is literally repulsed by my own reaction. I feel like Damien, the adolescent antichrist. I've never been so vindictive, and it's hard to believe I could think something like that about another person... especially one to whom I once was so close. Strangely, though, I can't say all of me feels guilt.

...I guess I needed to vent here more than much else, but what do you all think about humans' capacity to think and do horrible things they never thought themselves capable of? Do you think we're somehow punished for engaging these dark parts of ourselves... or is this merely a dynamic of being a human animal?
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #1 posted 10/23/03 11:35pm

Paisley

You should get the Electric Chair!
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Reply #2 posted 10/23/03 11:36pm

Teacher

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, in that I fervently believe in payback and revenge.
I don't know u, but it makes u a better person on my book that u admit to be human hug
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Reply #3 posted 10/23/03 11:37pm

Lammastide

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Paisley said:

You should get the Electric Chair!

I thought so too. sigh
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #4 posted 10/23/03 11:42pm

Lammastide

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Know something else I found out about how f*cked up a person this guy is...

He's apparently been online in local sex chatrooms cruising for guys to visit him in his hospital room so he can secretly suck them off. No lie.

That makes me feel sorry for him, actually. sad
[This message was edited Thu Oct 23 23:44:03 PDT 2003 by Lammastide]
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #5 posted 10/23/03 11:43pm

Teacher

Lammastide said:

Know something else I found out about how f*cked up a person this guy is...

He's apparently been online in local sex chatrooms cruising for guys to visit him in his hospital room so he can suck them off. No lie.

That makes me feel sorry for him, actually. sad


eek disbelief

One measly inch.
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Reply #6 posted 10/23/03 11:50pm

CAMILLE4U

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Lammastide said:

disbelief OK, I admit it. I have a sinister streak where harboring grudges is concrned. But I swear -- it's ONLY with people who dick me over for zero good reason, because I'm generally the nicest guy you'll ever meet.

Earlier this year, I got unfairly canned from a job (some of y'all might recall my "blue period" last spring), and I found out a few weeks later that my boss not only got the ax as well, but just slightly avoided an embezzlement lawsuit. I tried not to gloat, but, hey, I'm human.

Anyway, I found out tonight that a guy I was sort of "dating" about two years back -- who emotionally abused me (no hyperbole), used me for money and academic, social and career connections, had no fewer than four HIV scares with other men while we were together, started shooting up meth behind my back, spread rumors about me to mutual friends, and just about everything else a guy could do to another human being -- broke his back after falling 20 feet from a ladder last month! He apparently missed severing his spinal cord by a single inch!

Know what? My reaction wasn't pity or gratefulness that he survived. It was, "Damn... Only one more inch to go." omfg

shake Part of me is literally repulsed by my own reaction. I feel like Damien, the adolescent antichrist. I've never been so vindictive, and it's hard to believe I could think something like that about another person... especially one to whom I once was so close. Strangely, though, I can't say all of me feels guilt.

...I guess I needed to vent here more than much else, but what do you all think about humans' capacity to think and do horrible things they never thought themselves capable of? Do you think we're somehow punished for engaging these dark parts of ourselves... or is this merely a dynamic of being a human animal?


Did U get for ex-boss fired, did U push that *** off that ladder? If the answer to both is 'no' then feel free to wish them dead and don't feel guilty about it either. U havn't killed anyone, as hapy as it makes U.
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Reply #7 posted 10/23/03 11:51pm

Christopher

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Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice
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Reply #8 posted 10/23/03 11:54pm

CAMILLE4U

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Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.
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Reply #9 posted 10/23/03 11:57pm

Lammastide

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CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.

lol What is tougher is that I've actually daydreamed about him getting brutally hurt sinc eI last saw him over two years ago. When I got the news tonight, it felt creepy almost.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #10 posted 10/23/03 11:58pm

Teacher

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.


I am not nice stfu

Seriously though, I agree with what 'Mille says. That's what it's about, I honestly believe that people who say that they wish everybody, even people that hurt them, the best, are full of shit.
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Reply #11 posted 10/24/03 12:00am

CAMILLE4U

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Lammastide said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.

lol What is tougher is that I've actually daydreamed about him getting brutally hurt sinc eI last saw him over two years ago. When I got the news tonight, it felt creepy almost.


Ever see Evil Dead 2 where that womens head gets sliced up with a chainsaw. Fantasise about that next, I doubt he'll survive next time it comes true.
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Reply #12 posted 10/24/03 12:01am

CAMILLE4U

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Teacher said:

I am not nice stfu


I know sweety, I just didn't think U wanted a rep. wink
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Reply #13 posted 10/24/03 12:02am

Christopher

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Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.








Seriously though, I agree with what 'Mille says. That's what it's about, I honestly believe that people who say that they wish everybody, even people that hurt them, the best, are full of shit.



"I am not nice stfu"

aww i bet yer just a bag ol bag of sugar smile

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Reply #14 posted 10/24/03 12:09am

CAMILLE4U

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Christopher said:

Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.


Seriously though, I agree with what 'Mille says. That's what it's about, I honestly believe that people who say that they wish everybody, even people that hurt them, the best, are full of shit.



"I am not nice stfu"

aww i bet yer just a bag ol bag of sugar smile

/


falloff clapping worship
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Reply #15 posted 10/24/03 12:13am

TRON

No one can help their thoughts. What you do with them is what counts. wink
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Reply #16 posted 10/24/03 12:20am

Fhunkin

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Are your feelings easily hurt ?
Futuristic Fantasy
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Reply #17 posted 10/24/03 12:28am

AaronUniversal

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feeling sorry for people that have dicked you over is utterly useless.


yeah, compassion, kindness, caring, eternal peace love and prosperity for all mankind, turning the other cheek, blah blah blah. it's crap.



don't feel guilty.
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Reply #18 posted 10/24/03 12:29am

TRON

AaronUniversal said:

feeling sorry for people that have dicked you over is utterly useless.


yeah, compassion, kindness, caring, eternal peace love and prosperity for all mankind, turning the other cheek, blah blah blah. it's crap.



don't feel guilty.

Spoken like a true cynic. :applause:
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Reply #19 posted 10/24/03 2:13am

NovaAngel

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They got what they had coming to them. I'm a believer that whatever you do in life will eventually come back to you whether it's good or evil.
"I ordered no broth! Away with ye lest my cane find your backside!!"- Ralph Wiggum, Actor.
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Reply #20 posted 10/24/03 2:25am

Teacher

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.


Seriously though, I agree with what 'Mille says. That's what it's about, I honestly believe that people who say that they wish everybody, even people that hurt them, the best, are full of shit.



"I am not nice stfu"

aww i bet yer just a bag ol bag of sugar smile

/


falloff clapping worship


mad

Now I never wanna meet either of you two hmph!
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Reply #21 posted 10/24/03 2:26am

Teacher

AaronUniversal said:

feeling sorry for people that have dicked you over is utterly useless.


yeah, compassion, kindness, caring, eternal peace love and prosperity for all mankind, turning the other cheek, blah blah blah. it's crap.



don't feel guilty.


nod Aa, clapping
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Reply #22 posted 10/24/03 2:35am

Christopher

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Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.


Seriously though, I agree with what 'Mille says. That's what it's about, I honestly believe that people who say that they wish everybody, even people that hurt them, the best, are full of shit.



"I am not nice stfu"

aww i bet yer just a bag ol bag of sugar smile

/


falloff clapping worship


mad

Now I never wanna meet either of you two hmph!



kotc

*trying to see if teacher gives in*
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Reply #23 posted 10/24/03 2:36am

Teacher

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.


Seriously though, I agree with what 'Mille says. That's what it's about, I honestly believe that people who say that they wish everybody, even people that hurt them, the best, are full of shit.



"I am not nice stfu"

aww i bet yer just a bag ol bag of sugar smile

/


falloff clapping worship


mad

Now I never wanna meet either of you two hmph!



kotc

*trying to see if teacher gives in*


U think I'm easy, too? mad lol

Imma stop jacking Lammastide's thread now boxed
[This message was edited Fri Oct 24 2:38:13 PDT 2003 by Teacher]
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Reply #24 posted 10/24/03 2:37am

Christopher

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Teacher said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.


Seriously though, I agree with what 'Mille says. That's what it's about, I honestly believe that people who say that they wish everybody, even people that hurt them, the best, are full of shit.



"I am not nice stfu"

aww i bet yer just a bag ol bag of sugar smile

/


falloff clapping worship


mad

Now I never wanna meet either of you two hmph!



kotc

*trying to see if teacher gives in*


U think I'm easy, too? mad lol

lol no just trying to get you all lovely dovy for the boards...

is it working? love
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Reply #25 posted 10/24/03 2:39am

Teacher

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

CAMILLE4U said:

Christopher said:

Teacher said:

I agree with u, I am not by me or anybody else considered a nice person, :


hmm why? you seem nice


She is, and she's human aswell. If someone treats us shity while all were doing is going about our lives in peace then we should be aloud to wish they'd drop dead in a serverly painful way.


Seriously though, I agree with what 'Mille says. That's what it's about, I honestly believe that people who say that they wish everybody, even people that hurt them, the best, are full of shit.



"I am not nice stfu"

aww i bet yer just a bag ol bag of sugar smile

/


falloff clapping worship


mad

Now I never wanna meet either of you two hmph!



kotc

*trying to see if teacher gives in*


U think I'm easy, too? mad lol

lol no just trying to get you all lovely dovy for the boards...

is it working? love


falloff shake No lovey dovey, didn't u see I got on Sweeny's and DudeDrops' cases earlier on the book thread? evillol
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Reply #26 posted 10/24/03 2:39am

gooeythehamste
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After just reading your post (not the reations) I can only say that I totally understand your feelings.
They are not condemnable in any way.

They are JUSTIFIED.

As we know. inches count, hehehe.







Now THAT was mean...
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Reply #27 posted 10/24/03 2:41am

irresistibleb1
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i'm coming down on the other side of the spectrum here, but it's actually all good news, Lamm!

i believe it's important to develop compassion for everybody, in thought, speech and action. it's easy to be compassionate about your friends, or cute animals, or adorable kids. it takes a bit more work for those who are not as close to your life, or not as cute and furry. and it takes a whole hell of a lot of work to develop compassion for those we don't know at all, or those we believe we "hate", for whatever reason.

the reason you feel guilty about having had those thoughts is because you know this... and awareness is the first step. i believe you're 99% there, and that's amazing! worship

your thoughts are not "bad" or "repulsive" - they are just a way for you to become aware of the way the mind wants to compartmentalize life into "good" and "bad", when it really just "is". i admire you for going down this important path, and for sharing the process with us!
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Reply #28 posted 10/24/03 2:41am

Teacher

gooeythehamster said:


As we know. inches count, hehehe.







Now THAT was mean...


Only to those that don't have or don't get them.
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Reply #29 posted 10/24/03 2:41am

PREDOMINANT

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Sounds like Karma to me (if you believe in that). His "near miss" should have been a wake up call for him. In any case His life is on a different path to yours, you didn’t bring him any harm by your thought. You certainly shouldn’t feel guilt for wishing anything on him for more than a few seconds.
Happy is he who finds out the causes for things.Virgil (70-19 BC). Virgil was such a lying bastard!
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